Tablets 20

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Tablet 21


Jeremiah 18

The People's Plots and Jeremiah's Prayer

18 Then said they, Come, and let us devise devices against Jeremiah; for the law shall not perish from the priest, nor counsel from the wise, nor the word from the prophet. Come, and let us smite him with the tongue, and let us not give heed to any of his words. 19 Give heed to me, O Lord, and hearken to the voice of them that contend with me. 20 Shall evil be recompensed for good? for they have digged a pit for my soul. Remember that I stood before thee to speak good for them, and to turn away thy wrath from them.

21 Therefore deliver up their children to the famine, and pour out their blood by the force of the sword; and let their wives be bereaved of their children, and be widows; and let their men be put to death; let their young men be slain by the sword in battle. 22 Let a cry be heard from their houses, when thou shalt bring a troop suddenly upon them: for they have digged a pit to take me, and hid snares for my feet. 23 Yet, Lord, thou knowest all their counsel against me to slay  me: forgive not their iniquity, neither blot out their sin from thy sight, but let them be overthrown before thee; deal thus with them in the time of thine anger.

http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Jeremiah+18&ver=kjv

 

sevens


Jeremiah 16

18 And first I will recompense their iniquity and their sin double; because they have defiled my land, they have filled mine inheritance with the carcases of their detestable and abominable things. 19 O Lord, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. 20 Shall a man make gods unto himself, and they are no gods? 21 Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is The Lord.

http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Jeremiah+16&ver=kjv

sevens


Message to the last messenger

Jeremiah 15

The LORD's Assurance to Jeremiah

15 O Lord, thou knowest: remember me, and visit me, and revenge me of my persecutors; take me not away in thy longsuffering: know that for thy sake I have suffered rebuke. 16 Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O Lord God of hosts. 17 I sat not in the assembly of the mockers, nor rejoiced; I sat alone because of thy hand: for thou hast filled me with indignation. 18 Why is my pain perpetual, and my wound incurable, which refuseth to be healed? wilt thou be altogether unto me as a liar, and as waters that fail [5] 19 Therefore thus saith the Lord, If thou return, then will I bring thee again, and thou shalt stand before me: and if thou take forth the precious from the vile, thou shalt be as my mouth: let them return unto thee; but return not thou unto them. 20 And I will make thee unto this people a fenced brasen wall: and they shall fight against thee, but they shall not prevail against thee: for I am with thee to save thee and to deliver thee, saith the Lord. 21 And I will deliver thee out of the hand of the wicked, and I will redeem thee out of the hand of the terrible

 

and

7 And I will fan them with a fan in the gates of the land; I will bereave them of children, I will destroy [3] my people, since they return not from their ways. 8 Their widows are increased to me above the sand of the seas: I have brought upon them against the mother [4] of the young men a spoiler at noonday: I have caused him to fall upon it suddenly, and terrors upon the city. 9 She that hath borne seven languisheth: she hath given up the ghost; her sun is gone down while it was yet day: she hath been ashamed and confounded: and the residue of them will I deliver to the sword before their enemies, saith the Lord.

 


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:10 am

Katherine

I'm not repeating myself I post new things from different angles, I post images all sorts of things.

What do you post that is worthwhile.

Criticisms, in other words nothing much, is that all your capable off.

I show similar things from different perspectives and attend to responses. If you don't like it just move on. Its no problem. You don't have to read it!

sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:03 am

Ahh its all a laugh

I think we are heading for something, like a very big hidden Omen revealing itself.

Jack I think you going to need some straight shots instead.
ahahahah


cheers

sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:26 am

Jezebel wrote:
Katherine wrote:
sevens wrote:
Katherine wrote:Dear me Sevens, are you still wittering on after all these posts? :yawn:



I thought you had left to, I posted more information.

sevens


There is also something called 'too much information'. I left because I was comatose with boredom.



Yes, aside from the occasional funny comment, it is pretty damn boring -- just sevens repeating, over and over and over, how some image on a NASA photograph shows the existence of a submerged city and everyone else pointing out that (a) it doesn't and (b) even if it did, that wouldn't prove the existence of a god. And on it goes . . . on and on and on.

However, I keep checking back every morning because I'm curious about just how long it
can go on before sevens finds someone else to share his revelations with or the admins shut it down. (Morbid fascination.) This could end up being the longest thread that went no where ever known to humanity. This, in itself, could be Internet history in the making! :shifty:



ahahah i have to laugh at this post to.

Boring eh!, well go to the movies and try something a little different, you dont have to check back here if its boring.

The problem is people try to bog down the thread with personal attacks and offer nothing else but criticisms, sometimes the thread doesn't move on and when it does its bogged down with purpose that's why it appears we are going in circles.

There is much more I can post but I dont because its not worth it considering the response.

We are simply in a scenario with only one way out.

Admin could shut it down, no problem but this thread is simply another view and I am not against Richard Dawkins. I just happen to believe there is other things that haven't been considered and Im trying to demonstrate that. To provoke more thought into the matter of things.

You know Richard Dawkins is smart intelligent person and Im sure he would look at this with interest especially in the witness his followers in action. I would think he would look into things properly unlike many I see in this thread. Im sure he may have different thoughts but that's OK, its a free world where all can express themselves, right!.

To share our thoughts, even in difference. Is that a problem to deserve such personal attack response?

Sevens


Nah, not at all, that's the last thing on my min. I think its more serious than hits and I dont get much anyway.

I just want to troll for truth. I feel and see much going on from where I stand. Going by gut feeling, I see many prophecy constructs coming together not to mention Nostradamus and the Seventh accomplishment considering the time period we are in.

Its like foreseen realities that made no sense over the thousands of years are now coming together from different places in a convergence of foreseen realities into one final reality when the conditions are right. I believe we are in the moment.

Can you understand that?

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:21 am

elise97 wrote:no, its you sevens that is trying to prove something.

we have this thread as evidence of something, but not what you want!

so you think this '
jeramiah' characters ramblings and the utrania
book are a solid base for exploring reality? you are starting from a house of cards, my friend.

what do you get if you pile rubbish on top of rubbish, sevens ?



I reckon you are on the wrong track being the way you are towards me.

Everything in Jeremiah is exactly what we have going on in this thread. My message is from the ancients times, there is no other on the planet proclaiming this specialized message concerning previous ages. Discovering the places through triangulation of the words of the Urantia Book and including other books in support.

The NASA images do match the descriptions and the 40ft walls of the city can be seen. According to NASA there is no mistake, some people say OH there's nothing there even though its quite evident that something is there and has symmetry and symbolism we understand and see around us today.

There is nothing to fear in all of this as there is a clear path, Im only here to be of service to mankind if there is an eventuality as I see forecast in the books associated with the journey and ancient times in the fullest interpretations.

Never underestimate the content of this thread, what you see before is planet changing and all things will change and most men perceive in their heart of hearts that there is change upon the way as foreseen by religion. I know Religion is in bad condition at this time and there are many things to criticize today and from the past but there is a river of truth in amongst all the bushes that is truth, this river is leading mankind to this junction of ancient times and revealing for the benefit of mankind and his destiny.

All it takes is the right conditions for things to manifest suddenly and the prophets and all the Seers in part saw fragments of the final conditions. It is only in the right reality conditions in the final time attached with the final or last message, that all the prophecies comes into a oneness, a complete fulfillment of what was foreseen in the fullest and widest way.

I feel this path to the ancient places is right path as foreseen and much prophecy has already been fulfilled, every day it happens. It could be that a demonstration where God reveals himself creates a condition where every man will bow down. I believe that is on the cards.

This thread, in this place could be the actual catalyst in response to the notion of no God.

What I posted in Jeremiah was a part of the piece which I believe concerns this very thread and experience. Prophecy lays dormant until it comes into its fullest expression, in the reality.

Sevens



Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:35 am

LucidFlight wrote:
sevens wrote:You know this Atheist business is just like another church in itself with their owns books of doctrine and with their own followers and who persecute those a little different. Its really no different to a church.

Sevens



Now you're just trolling for attention. :coffee:



Nah, not at all, that's the last thing on my mind. I think its more serious than hits and I dont get much anyway.

I just want to troll for truth. I feel and see much going on from where I stand. Going by gut feeling, I see many prophecy constructs coming together not to mention Nostradamus and the Seventh accomplishment considering the time period we are in.

Its like foreseen realities that made no sense over the thousands of years are now coming together from different places in a convergence of foreseen realities into one final reality when the conditions are right. I believe we are in the moment.

Can you understand that?

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:39 am

elise97 wrote:
no, its you sevens that is trying to prove something.



Absolutely, I have something to prove that God exists and who is personal.

I would like to demonstrate that in faith and I think I have found a way to do that and not only that, I think I have found the catalyst.

Anyway, this is where the action of the planet is, everything else is boring by comparison
hehehe! there is only one action happening and from right here, in this thread. The actions of the Gods ahaha Joking joking having fun. To Rouse the whole world and everyone of there behinds hehehe!

thanks

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:11 am

Actually in this thread is the culmination of all the super hero's in one. hehehe hahaha hehehe!

I got the case of the laughs

Sevens

Re: Is Islam a totalitarion religion?

Postby sevens on Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:18 am

Is Islam a totalitarian religion?

No not at all and Islam will go through great correction like the Christian religion. Judgement will be based on the witness of the persons life and his inner motive that no one knows. Judgment has nothing to do with religion, doctrine and dogma, its all about the individual. Jesus did lay a path through this and judgement is pending in my view.

Sevens

Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods
Quote:
21 Thus saith the Lord; Take heed to yourselves, and bear no burden on the sabbath day, nor bring it in by the gates of Jerusalem; 22 Neither carry forth a burden out of your houses on the sabbath day, neither do ye any work, but hallow ye the sabbath day, as I commanded your fathers. 23 But they obeyed not, neither inclined their ear, but made their neck stiff, that they might not hear, nor receive instruction. 24 And it shall come to pass, if ye diligently hearken unto me, saith the Lord, to bring in no burden through the gates of this city on the sabbath day, but hallow the sabbath day, to do no work therein;

25 Then shall there enter into the gates of this city kings and princes sitting upon the throne of David, riding in chariots and on horses, they, and their princes, the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem: and this city shall remain for ever



The Sabbath Day is a Seventh Day, In the above in my mind its a remembrance of the future Seventh Day when Judgment comes unto truth. The day will be the day when the number 7 accomplishes when the Seventh Mystery is realized. The day of rest for the Elect and the faithful.

The key to the Seventh mystery is realisation in the right reality conditions. Realizing and seeing you're in the middle of it and you didn't know in the first instance of the journey that you were heading towards the consummation of the Sevenfold mystery.
 

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:14 am
 

Quote:

10 Woe is me, my mother, that thou hast borne me a man of strife and a man of contention to the whole earth! I have neither lent on usury, nor men have lent to me on usury; yet every one of them doth curse me. 11 The Lord said, Verily it shall be well with thy remnant; verily I will cause the enemy to entreat thee well in the time of evil and in the time of affliction. 12 Shall iron break the northern iron and the steel? 13 Thy substance and thy treasures will I give to the spoil without price, and that for all thy sins, even in all thy borders. 14 And I will make thee to pass with thine enemies into a land which thou knowest not : for a fire is kindled in mine anger, which shall burn upon you.



The above fragment appears to have to same conditions that I see fulfilled in this journey and the message that comes from ancient times.

The key points I was attracted to was.

Verily it shall be well with thy remnant;
There is a remnant at the final stand of truth.

and

13 Thy substance and thy treasures will I give to the spoil without price, and that for all thy sins, even in all thy borders.
Given without price and the treasures are spoilt by the spurn and mock from everyone. They are given for the spoiling, like the excuse of judgment.

and

14 And
I will make thee to pass with thine enemies into a land which thou knowest not : for a fire is kindled in mine anger, which shall burn upon you.
A warning.

I felt the above are clear matches and we all going to go through the abyss of truth and the ancient places and the message is the catalyst of change. It appears for those who are asleep or who mock and spurn there is penalty.

All truth in this journey has been given without price or reward, all on the run.

and this interesting one

Quote:
Jeremiah 14
18 If I go forth into the field, then behold the slain with the sword! and
if I enter into the city, then behold them that are sick with famine! yea, both the prophet and the priest go about [3] into a land that they know not . 19 Hast thou utterly rejected Judah? hath thy soul lothed Zion? why hast thou smitten us, and there is no healing for us? we looked for peace, and there is no good; and for the time of healing, and behold trouble!
 


sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:49 am

 

In the following extract reminds me of the test I made in the RD forum about a path where I could prove God, I likened to the test of Elijah concerning the test of Baal as opposed to the Father.

Its interesting to come across this piece relating to Baal and the various warnings.

 
Quote:
11 Therefore thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will bring evil upon them, which they shall not be able to escape; [2] and though they shall cry unto me, I will not hearken unto them. 12 Then shall the cities of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem go, and cry unto the gods unto whom they offer incense: but they shall not save them at all in the time of their trouble. [3] 13 For according to the number of thy cities were thy gods, O Judah; and according to the number of the streets of Jerusalem have ye set up altars to that shameful thing, even altars to burn incense unto Baal. 14 Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up a cry or prayer for them: for I will not hear them in the time that they cry unto me for their trouble. [4] 15 What hath my beloved to do in mine house, seeing she hath wrought lewdness with many, and the holy flesh is passed from thee? when thou doest evil, then thou rejoicest. 16 The Lord called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, and of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult he hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken. 17 For the Lord of hosts, that planted thee, hath pronounced evil against thee, for the evil of the house of Israel and of the house of Judah, which they have done against themselves to provoke me to anger in offering incense unto Baal .



Baal is the God of No God these days, Baal essentially embraces the Lucifer Manifesto of no God and does include ownership.

It will be interesting to see what happens with the thread over in Atheist land.
 

Quote:
The Plot against Jeremiah
18 And the Lord hath given me knowledge of it, and I know it: then thou shewedst me their doings. 19 But I was like a lamb or an ox that is brought to the slaughter; and I knew not that they had devised devices against me, saying, Let us destroy the tree [5] with the fruit thereof, and let us cut him off from the land of the living, that his name may be no more remembered. 20 But, O Lord of hosts, that judgest righteously, that triest the reins and the heart, let me see thy vengeance on them: for unto thee have I revealed my cause. 21 Therefore thus saith the Lord of the men of Anathoth, that seek thy life, saying, Prophesy not in the name of the Lord, that thou die not by our hand: 22 Therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts, Behold, I will punish [6] them: the young men shall die by the sword; their sons and their daughters shall die by famine: 23 And there shall be no remnant of them: for I will bring evil upon the men of Anathoth, even the year of their visitation.



The sword in this case is the word


Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods
Quote:
7 Nevertheless hear thou now this word that I speak in thine ears, and in the ears of all the people; 8 The prophets that have been before me and before thee of old prophesied both against many countries, and against great kingdoms, of war, and of evil, and of pestilence. 9 The prophet which prophesieth of peace, when the word of the prophet shall come to pass, then shall the prophet be known, that the Lord hath truly sent him.



and for our times to

 

Quote:
Jeremiah 31
10 Hear the word of the Lord, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as
a shepherd doth his flock. 11 For the Lord hath redeemed Jacob, and ransomed him from the hand of him that was stronger than he. 12 Therefore they shall come and sing in the height of Zion, and shall flow together to the goodness of the Lord, for wheat, and for wine, and for oil, and for the young of the flock and of the herd: and their soul shall be as a watered garden; and they shall not sorrow any more at all. 13 Then shall the virgin rejoice in the dance, both young men and old together: for I will turn their mourning into joy, and will comfort them, and make them rejoice from their sorrow. 14 And I will satiate the soul of the priests with fatness, and my people shall be satisfied with my goodness, saith the Lord. 15 Thus saith the Lord; A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation, and bitter weeping; Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children, because they were not. 16 Thus saith the Lord; Refrain thy voice from weeping, and thine eyes from tears: for thy work shall be rewarded, saith the Lord; and they shall come again from the land of the enemy. 17 And there is hope in thine end , saith the Lord, that thy children shall come again to their own border.


sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:32 am
The New Covenant
Jeremiah 31

 
Quote:

27 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man, and with the seed of beast. 28 And it shall come to pass, that like as I have watched over them, to pluck up, and to break down, and to throw down, and to destroy, and to afflict; so will I watch over them, to build, and to plant, saith the Lord. 29 In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge. 30 But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge. 31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord: 33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

and

Jeremiah 33
14 Behold, the days come,
saith the Lord, that I will perform that good thing which I have promised unto the house of Israel and to the house of Judah. 15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land. 16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The Lord our righteousness.



Just beautiful


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:13 pm

LucidFlight wrote:
sevens wrote:You should write a movie

sevens


So... sevens, do you have any plans for
after the expedition? What if you're successful? What then? What if it's a hoax? What then? Would you consider Krishna, or some type of Eastern mysticism thing?

:coffee: (I really should cut back.)



 

If an expedition was mounted and it was a success on all counts, I would probably go in hiding and would still work on the Internet and search out the other locations to verify through expeditions. If all this was untrue I would probably go into hiding and work the Internet and apologize but people have seen what I have seen and it was all open.

Buddhism is involved in this whether they like it or not, I revealed it to them, they just said it doesn't matter what happens, in other words dont worry about it.

With Hindu, its the Tipura of the 3 cities.

I believe the anomalies are right and NASA says the data is right, so III take there word for it.

However, there are some interesting thoughts found in prophecy, the elect might be evacuated before judgment and that maybe the demonstration that will be obvious. It could be that this thread may just abruptly stop in mid air.

The Sabbath day is a day of rest and on the Seventh day the Seven accomplishes the Seventh Mystery, the Seventh day, a day of rest for the elect and faithful, that infers a evacuation of the Elect for a time and who will witness the judgement process in its actual physical outwork.

The ones that had no belief in the beforehand come into this self realisation. When the realisation comes that a God exists and that Sevens was right, then its to late you are in the actual process.

However, during the time of troubles and closing of the ranks, it is possible that great mercy will be extended by Jesus and people do have another opportunity to repent from denying him....I think?? If correct, that mercy consummates when The Melchizedek and possibly Jesus or another Paradise Magisterial Son personality reveal themselves to adjudge the age. All that would prove that God exists and he is personal.

That's the call Im making.

The Elect upon coming back will have modified and healed bodies that will accept the energies of the tree of life and therefore receive immortality to rehabilitate the planet for the next thousand years. When the built in space temple comes down from space, New Heaven and new Earth it begin service as our first translation temple which will bring us into the 7th Epochal revelation. The era of light and life, the utopian ages. The Utopian times most people on the planet are looking for but wont find it in this system.

I think the world in the next thousand years will be vastly different to what see now.

I personally think that there will be a second opportunity for those who weren't aware of this eventuality. This is because of the slackness of Christianity and the other religions in the beforehand time. This includes the lack of appeal in there witness in there churches with all the manipulation for financial dominance over many. There are many things but all this will be corrected and a rebuke will go out to 6 of the 7 churches. Islam will go through its own correction to.

In the first demonstration there will be very few who will be gathered at the final stand. However, in the 2nd opportunity (if there is one) there will be many because of inner realisation.

This is the path that leads to Utopia and everyone has an opportunity right here, right now! These are the promises of Jesus. This is what I am finding in this journey. In the phase after the 1stDemonstration (evacuation) Jesus and the Last Rebel of No god fights and that's when the great tribulation begins as foreseen. The last Rebel is angry as he knows his end draws near.

That's what Im finding in religion.

Sevens


Micah 2 12 I will surely assemble, O Jacob, all of thee; I will surely gather the remnant of Israel; I will put them together as the sheep of Bozrah, as the flock in the midst of their fold: they shall make great noise by reason of the multitude of men. 13 The breaker is come up before them: they have broken up, and have passed through the gate, and are gone out by it: and their king shall pass before them, and the Lord on the head of them.

Micah 4 7 And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the Lord shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even for ever.

8 And thou, O tower of the flock, the strong hold of the daughter of Zion, unto thee shall it come, even the first dominion; the kingdom shall come to the daughter of Jerusalem. 9 Now why dost thou cry out aloud? is there no king in thee? is thy counsellor perished? for pangs have taken thee as a woman in travail. 10 Be in pain, and labour to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a woman in travail: for now shalt thou go forth out of the city, and thou shalt dwell in the field, and thou shalt go even to Babylon; there shalt thou be delivered; there the Lord shall redeem thee from the hand of thine enemies. 11 Now also many nations are gathered against thee, that say, Let her be defiled, and let our eye look upon Zion. 12 But they know not the thoughts of the Lord, neither understand they his counsel: for he shall gather them as the sheaves into the floor. 13 Arise and thresh, O daughter of Zion: for I will make thine horn iron, and I will make thy hoofs brass: and thou shalt beat in pieces many people: and I will consecrate their gain unto the Lord, and their substance unto the Lord of the whole earth.


Micah 5 7 And the remnant of Jacob shall be in the midst of many people as a dew from the Lord, as the showers upon the grass, that tarrieth not for man, nor waiteth for the sons of men. 8 And the remnant of Jacob shall be among the Gentiles in the midst of many people as a lion among the beasts of the forest, as a young lion among the flocks of sheep: [5] who, if he go through, both treadeth down, and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver. 9 Thine hand shall be lifted up upon thine adversaries, and all thine enemies shall be cut off. 10 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord, that I will cut off thy horses out of the midst of thee, and I will destroy thy chariots: 11 And I will cut off the cities of thy land, and throw down all thy strong holds: 12 And I will cut off witchcrafts out of thine hand; and thou shalt have no more soothsayers: 13 Thy graven images also will I cut off, and thy standing images out of the midst of thee; and thou shalt no more worship the work of thine hands. 14 And I will pluck up thy groves out of the midst of thee: so will I destroy thy cities. [6] 15 And I will execute vengeance in anger and fury upon the heathen, such as they have not heard.

What the LORD Requires

6 Wherewith shall I come before the Lord, and bow myself before the high God? shall I come before him with burnt offerings, with calves of a year old? 7 Will the Lord be pleased with thousands of rams, or with ten thousands of rivers of oil? shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body [1] for the sin of my soul? 8 He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk [2] humbly with thy God?

9 The Lord's voice crieth unto the city, and the man of wisdom shall see thy name: hear ye the rod, and who hath appointed it. 10 Are there yet the treasures of wickedness in the house of the wicked, and the scant measure that is abominable? 11 Shall I count them pure [3] with the wicked balances, and with the bag of deceitful weights? 12 For the rich men thereof are full of violence, and the inhabitants thereof have spoken lies, and their tongue is deceitful in their mouth. 13 Therefore also will I make thee sick in smiting thee, in making thee desolate because of thy sins. 14 Thou shalt eat, but not be satisfied; and thy casting down shall be in the midst of thee; and thou shalt take hold, but shalt not deliver; and that which thou deliverest will I give up to the sword. 15 Thou shalt sow, but thou shalt not reap; thou shalt tread the olives, but thou shalt not anoint thee with oil; and sweet wine, but shalt not drink wine. 16 For the statutes of Omri are kept, and all the works of the house of Ahab, and ye walk in their counsels; that I should make thee a desolation, and the inhabitants thereof an hissing: therefore ye shall bear the reproach of my people.

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The LORD's Compassion on Israel

14 Feed [3] thy people with thy rod, the flock of thine heritage, which dwell solitarily in the wood, in the midst of Carmel: let them feed in Bashan and Gilead, as in the days of old. 15 According to the days of thy coming out of the land of Egypt will I shew unto him marvellous things. 16 The nations shall see and be confounded at all their might: they shall lay their hand upon their mouth, their ears shall be deaf. 17 They shall lick the dust like a serpent, they shall move out of their holes like worms [4] of the earth: they shall be afraid of the Lord our God, and shall fear because of thee. 18 Who is a God like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his heritage? he retaineth not his anger for ever, because he delighteth in mercy. 19 He will turn again, he will have compassion upon us; he will subdue our iniquities; and thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea. 20 Thou wilt perform the truth to Jacob, and the mercy to Abraham, which thou hast sworn unto our fathers from the days of old. Micah 7 >>


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Then Daniel presented the drama of the impending "crisis"--the smiting of the great image and the immediate establishment of the everlasting reign of righteousness, the Messianic kingdom


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"The true shepherd gathers his flock into the fold for the night in times of danger. And when the morning has come, he enters into the fold by the door, and when he calls, the sheep know his voice. Every shepherd who gains entrance to the sheepfold by any other means than by the door is a thief and a robber. The true shepherd enters the fold after the porter has opened the door for him, and his sheep, knowing his voice, come out at his word; and when they that are his are thus brought forth, the true shepherd goes before them; he leads the way and the sheep follow him. His sheep follow him because they know his voice; they will not follow a stranger. They will flee from the stranger because they know not his voice. This multitude which is gathered about us here are like sheep without a shepherd, but when we speak to them, they know the shepherd's voice, and they follow after us; at least, those who hunger for truth and thirst for righteousness do. Some of you are not of my fold; you know not my voice, and you do not follow me. And because you are false shepherds, the sheep know not your voice and will not follow you."


Re: My best friend believes I'm going to hell

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:17 am

My best friend believes I'm going to hell



Dont worry about going to Hell as that is a manmade creation, hell doesn't exist but there is personality extinction, you know, when you die its black and that's it, no consciousness of self forever, that was because of the decision of no will for survival and denial of God.

That's no problem, people get what they will for themselves no problem but there is no life after death in denial, God is the only one that can resurrect a personality after death and does include repersonalisation in a new body but made with a different substance that we cant see in the time/space dimension.

Anyone that wants to die forever regarding personality has every right to request personality extinction, its a free universe in decision making.

If your interested in no survival after death, the easiest way you can perform personality extinction for yourself is simply to believe that God doesn't exist or deny him utterly and that should guarantee personality extinction. The Ancient of Days if requested will respond to your call of no survival.

Easy process actually! there are many that will only know there blessings once on this planet and will never go beyond to the great universal adventure because they requested extinction after death and they never believed nor had any faith except in there own BS against man under the guise of goodness, where in actual fact it was deception. Talk peace but bring war and BS on a micro and macro levels, this applies to many individuals and countries.

That is the story in truth!

When people talk the following crap without understanding they are good potentials for personality extinction through unthinking denial. Definitely on the road to personality extinction.

 

God, if he exists, is a fucking incompetent. I wouldn't hire him to build a bookcase



No problem at all and its no real loss to the universe realms of existence and there was nothing useful coming forth in the first instance anyway. Just Crap and eventual self disaster! Not even smart nor intelligent in the expressed words of Crap!

Oh about Demons they were interned in the universal jails ready for adjudication 2000 years ago. The only one left on this planet is the Last Rebel of deception his name is Caligastia or Cal for short. He was the ex planetary prince of the planet and was shorn of power. But if a person desires can communicate with him, he can but you will be deceived. When people claim demonic possession its usually the outwork of a maladjusted mind.

Cals people are those who prophecy good things to people in these days but good things wont come until all things are resolved on the spiritual and universal levels.

The whole idea of Cal is to lead people astray from the truth of matter and blind them with crap. When the evacuation comes for the elect and faithful, then Cal knows his time draws near and that when the world goes through a tribulation because Cal is going to make every attempt to destroy the planet. If Cal goes down, so does man and that's his manifesto in this day of revealing the truth of the matter.

How Cal works with religion is he brings about division amongst the religions mainly through differences in dogma and doctrine. He deceives people in that the way clear is through death and destruction through the poor interpretations of man, he plays all sides to bring about division. He creates bondage over man through unthinking ritual and unbending views and casts against man through these differences. He creates the problem only to find the solution through man which brings man under more spiritual bondage with prejudice and bias and then blames it on God and uses that as a witness. That's why religion looks woeful because it has been spiritually manipulated through the devices of division and with very poor interpretations marked by division. His whole purpose is make religion out as dysfunctional and without any credibility and to make it look like a horses ass. And it works and I think he has been successful in many ways because look at the reality of religion and its exclusiveness today. However, truth always prevails.

Cals biggest manifestation is the No God deception, that's his biggest work played out on man. Only because he wants to be God over man through his crafty devices but he is no God over man and never will be.

He and his children are headed for personality extinction and we are at the steps of the adjudication NOW!

In the near future a planetary adjudication will be physically implemented and great decisions will have to be made by every individual. The time is approaching fast and every one will be caught out because it will happen very SUDDENLY and no will believe beforehand. Everyone has to be prepared within themselves with spiritual decision before it occurs in order to find rest on the Seventh Day, the day the Sevenfold mystery is called in by Paradise and which begins the actual judgement process of man and his utter B.S. crap he sprouts everyday in order to impose on man. Man loves to be the King of B.S. in his small life, his life witness will be his judge and for many that means a reckoning and a real humbling of man and his utter crap.

We are at the gates of truth whether people like it or not and it will come to pass and it will be a very uncomfortable feeling and everyone's heart will be disturbed greatly because they missed the opportunity and they will realize that they were simply wrong in there ideas on many things not to mention the offense towards Paradise in denial on every level by mans limited wrong ideas and thoughtless words which includes all his absolute ignorance of these realities due to no study, no research just stupid opinions with no basis in truth not even in a simple demonstration.

The reason these days will be cut short is purely for the benefit of the Elect and the Faithful, there is no other reason. If there was no intervention and evacuation the planet and its faithless human will be destroyed by there own human hands in there utter B.S. crap!

The destiny of the planet is due for a reset.
 

Sevens
 


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:53 pm

On a another thread about Hell I did mention Caligastia, Cal for short, I was wondering if we where speaking about the same person or entity.

With Cal the moderator, personally Im not one for challenging before we even talk. I respect his views like I respect Richard Dawkins views. Richard Dawkins makes some very valid points and he is right about evolution and so was Charles Darwin. But the only difference is, I believe that there is a God who is personal and its all evolution but does has some creative input.

All Im doing here is making information available, if in case I am spot on in the outcome the information could be of help. Doesn't matter Atheist or not so long as the information is there and is accessible. No one should underestimate the times we are in, particularly in light of the ancient places and the journey.

Sevens

Re: My best friend believes I'm going to hell

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:44 pm

I am following my conscience. My moral sense tells me that no God would allow some of the unjustifiable eveils that have polluted our world, when he could so easily have prevented them.



There is a last rebel roaming around prosecuting his nefarious schemes but his end is very near.

Sevens


Re: My best friend believes I'm going to hell

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:44 pm

I am following my conscience. My moral sense tells me that no God would allow some of the unjustifiable eveils that have polluted our world, when he could so easily have prevented them.



There is a last rebel roaming around prosecuting his nefarious schemes but his end is very near.

There is path opened now that passes through the coming judgment safely, this path leads to the Utopian Ages that your looking for but its based on faith and discovery from ancient times.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:53 pm

On a another thread about Hell I did mention Caligastia, Cal for short, I was wondering if we were speaking about the same person or entity.

With Cal the moderator, personally Im not one for challenging before we even talk. I respect his views like I respect Richard Dawkins views. Richard Dawkins makes some very valid points and he is right about evolution and so was Charles Darwin. But the only difference is, I believe that there is a God who is personal and its all evolution but does has some creative input.

All Im doing here is making information available, if in case I am spot on in the outcome, the information could be of help. Doesn't matter Atheist or not so long as the information is there and is accessible. No one should underestimate the times we are in, particularly in light of the ancient places and the journey.

Hey! Jack
Rawlinson
Cheers
one for the journey eh! come what may, see what happens
ahaha.


Sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:23 pm

ahahah full on wasn't it, I knew you would spin out on it.

Well that's what I reckon. I suppose its a little full on.

Sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:13 pm

Hey look when I posted the Jeremiah extract you which verse really got my attention.

It was this one

 
All my familiars watched for my halting, saying, Peradventure he will be enticed,



Peradventure,
1. to think or infer without certain or strong evidence; conjecture; guess. –verb (used without object)
2. to conjecture or guess. –noun
3. a matter of conjecture.
4. an idea or thought of something as being possible or likely.
5. a conjecture or opinion

enticed
to attract artfully or adroitly or by arousing hope or desire : tempt
synonyms see lure

Consider I found this Jeremiah fragment Yesterday and just happen to read this fragment where I recognized a parallel in the current reality.

Regarding the keywords, Peradventure and Enticed.

Isn't that the nature of this complete thread, Peradventure, an idea or thought of something as being possible or likely, or a conjecture or opinion based on the evidence that I see in the images including the triangulation of the city based on the descriptive words of the Urantia Book concerning the location of the First city using the Persian Heads as a bearing. Not only that the whole journey which led to the discoveries was led by the books in extracting all the relevant information which included many reflections of this actual journey.

The other word was entice. Isn't that the case in this journey where I have used all the information to attract artfully or adroitly or by arousing hope or desire in light of the messages coming out of the books of all religion.

Now how I was led to Jeremiah was through a word search on Google keyword last prophet I think. I saw this website and just glanced through the page and I saw a verse from Jeremiah that witnessed to me, I went to the chapter and there I found Jeremiah 30 and saw the parallel reflection in this actual thread and therefore my post at the time.

Then I wondered about peradventure and I thought of this journey and saw the parallel in the meaning. Another thing that impressed me was the outcome of the Paragraph and it was what I expected, the ultimate conclusion of that paragraph was inferring Judgement where the Lord stands by his little Seven. It may take time but honestly no one knows the time only by through the signs. The biggest sign is that the final message will come from the ancient times, the beginning, the ancient places would be the most logical conclusion. This is why it should be explored further physically.

You know in this fragment of the Urantia Book, I get awfully curious whether this the prophecy of the discovery of Dalamatia City and the home art relics that lay within the city walls. They would be still there.


Mek did a great deal to advance the culture of the Andonites and to improve the art of the blue man. A blend of the blue man with the Andon
stock produced an artistically gifted type, and many of them became master sculptors. They did not work in stone or marble, but their works of clay, hardened by baking, adorned the gardens of Dalamatia.

 

Great progress was made in the home arts, most of which were lost in the long and dark ages of rebellion, never to be rediscovered until modern times.




Is this a prophecy pointing to a successful expedition of verifying the city and discovering the home artworks. Or is the above highlight about normal Sumerian relics found years past?

I would like to believe the first option.

Anyway its interesting.

Looking at

 

All my familiars watched for my halting,

To me this expresses that all the Seraphims and ArchAngels including Paradise personalities about me are watch for my halting, for me to be halted, whilst I express my peradventure through the journey to the ancient places to raise hope and desire from the beginning, the beginning places, the wasted places as foreseen.

Here is Nostradamus Quatrain that I had thought about around a year ago, it reflects the current images of Dalamatia City and all the other places,
the urns of tombs
the beginning places and the path of the tree of life of ages past.

 

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14
He will come to expose the false topography,
the urns of the tombs will be opened.
Sect and holy philosophy to thrive,
black for white and the new for the old.


"He will come to expose the false topography," Thats
right he will discover the ancient places using the NASA worldwind software which renders the bathymetric data of the sea floor in 3 dimensions. "the urns of the tombs will be opened." The NASA 3d images where used to find the ancients places where the ancient urns was discovered thus having verification Yea!




See how it reflects from different triangulations from different sources and makes the reality in the timeline and what occurs in the experience of the delivery of this because I think this is the reality the prophets and seers where looking at.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:51 pm

jimmo wrote:
Faithhead wrote:Has it gone too far to hope this is a Poe? :dunno:



It could be an
inadvertant poe due to unconscious incompetence with logical argument.

Our friend sevens may fall into this category as he thinks he's making a cogent argument but is, apparently, completely oblivious to the logical flaws therein.

http://www.worldtrans.org/TP/TP2/TP2A-16.HTML



Maybe, but there is one way to prove it, that's by going out the Persian Gulf on boat with the proper equipment and verify the city.

That's the only way, whether you like or not and that will the final judge of the argument, through a discovery and verification. I mean you reply the way do but you put nothing forward that is interesting or even thought provocative just the usual plain ol'e criticism.

Why I put up what I do is to see if this is correct and therefore quite happy to share it, so we can all witness the outcome.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:32 pm

You say that but your actions would apparently contradict your intent. If you genuinely want to see if this is correct, why do you constantly resist all the logical arguments and instead go jumping straight from some unsubstantiated fantasy book that is apparently devoid of any corroborating evidence to suggesting an expedition.

Nobody is going to follow you on such a large leap of faith. Furthermore, your beliefs and assertions will not gain any more validity through continual repetition.



People had faith in 1st and 2nd expedition so why not have faith in this eh!

Im putting up information because it could of use and benefit in case its crucial and Im showing my findings so people can see this how Im tracking this.

Im testing out the Urantia Book, a book you haven't even read nor researched so how do you know its fantasy and you're some scholar. How do you know that I am wrong?

Have you got some tangible evidence on the same level to disprove otherwise?? No!

Why are you always resisting what I post because you are unsure.

Anyway, It was always known that people wouldn't understand this, obviously your'e not wide enough to see further into it.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:39 pm

Thanks

Lucid for the video that was cool.

I was thinking B52 5+2=
7

ahahahahah

sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:58 pm

jimmo wrote:
sevens wrote:
Cool - ask them for funding


No money left
 



Oh dear - you mean the results from those expeditions didn't warrant further investment from any of the many scientific bodies out there? I wonder why that would be :)



The 2nd expedition was very limited in its budget and the only thing that could be investigated was the wall as discovered in the first expedition. It confirmed the Urantia information of the natural wall that is mentioned specifically. The mount to the North which is the Acropolis Hill was also confirmed but still has to be explored further. There is only so many people that read the Urantia Book.

 

Quote
53
The law of the Sun and of Venus in strife,
Appropriating the spirit of prophecy:
Neither the one nor the other will be understood,
The law of the great Messiah will hold through the Sun.

 



Concerning the Babble in the last post, we just fulfilled a Nostradamus Quatrain! right here, right now!

Concerning the Babble in the last post, we just fulfilled a Nostradamus Quatrain! right here, right now!

Your very words fulfilled this part
"Neither the one nor the other will be understood," and if you like to read the next part, be my guest or is that to illogical for you?? Consider the prophetical nature of this journey and the thread and the question of whether Gods exists or not.

 

Your very words fulfilled this part "Neither the one nor the other will be understood," and if you like to read the next part, be my guest or is that to illogical for you?? Consider the prophetical nature of this journey and the thread and the question of whether Gods exists or not.

The following is about Dalamatia City, the Stone could be the Seven commands proof

 
Quote
35
For the free city of the great Crescent sea,
Which still carries the stone in its stomach,
The English fleet will come under the drizzle
To seize a branch, war opened by the great one.



The crescent sea is the Persian Gulf "
Which still carries the stone in its stomach," The Stone is the Seven commands which lays in the submerged City.

The "To seize a branch, war opened by the great one." and the "The English fleet will come under the drizzle" may relate to an incident that happened between the British and the Iranian navies, close to the 1stSusa I revealed the places to them both and things changed instantly in the scenario. Maybe who knows, but it was sure interesting. By revealing the first two places may have activated something at that time.

I wonder if this following quatrain is also a reflection of this journey

 

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96
The rose upon the middle of the great world,
For new deeds public shedding of blood: is this new for old or some terrible judgment?
To speak the truth, one will have a closed mouth, (internet undoubtedly)
Then at the time of need the awaited one will come [color=#FF0000]late [/color]
.



"
Late" that would be right because I have to deal with all the posts.

ahahahah

 


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:58 am

Pappa wrote:
justwondering wrote:Cool, then you can pick up his shit.



We can let the thread fill with shit and he can play in it happily as much as he likes.



This research Is not shit,
Pappa

Its the real shit going on man, just be aware.

Everyone underestimates this but this its real and it will manifest as it is written.

The method used in this research is nothing different to Heinrich Schliemann who discovered the Lost city of Troy using the books of Homer matching the physical environment based on the words of Homer.

Nothing that different except more expanded in the beforehand knowledge.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:25 am

Huston wrote:While I can accept the possibility of a submerged city in the Persian Gulf, THIS is NOT evidence for the existence of god.



No worries Huston, I can appreciate what you say but in my mind if a book that claims to be written by personalities of the Universal Kingdom realm and proves itself in the discovery of a city and a construct that no man alone can produce, not even in Hollywood, then it tells me that the book is authentic and true and does prove a God exist and who is personal.

I mean look at what's written and see the image and already you can see a personal harmony of God and man including this journey to the ancient places of the tree of life. I mean you have the walls, the shape of the city, the circular foundations of the temple, the 10 subdivisions which make up a triangle. Information about the place and the clues in what to look, you have a prophecy about the future discovery of the place and shards of evidence. Then you have this uncanny reference in all then information about adjudication of the rebellion. Just happened to be there imbedded in the Paper 66. Just coincidence.


Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:44 am

Faithhead wrote:
sevens wrote:
DiFontane wrote:Sevens,

let's recapitulate:
1. You believe Robert Sarmast discovered Atlantis/1st Eden.
2. The Atlantis fits the description of 1st Eden in the Urantia Book.
3. This is evidence that the Urantia Book has some credibility.
4. According to the Urantia Book Dalamatia City has to be in the Persian Gulf.
5. Finding
Dalmatia
City proves the Urantia Book is true and written by God

Is that about right?



Yes, that in a nutshell that's what I think.

I also think that everything was recorded in the beforehand by many seers and prophets.

Sevens



:funny:

Definately Poe!!



What ,Im just discussing my findings and I demonstrate that for testing and debate.

I dont know what POE is

Is POE some sort of marking the man in a reverse styled persecution from the Atheist.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:54 pm

Faithhead wrote:
sevens wrote:What ,Im just discussing my findings and I demonstrate that for testing and debate.

I dont know what POE is

Is POE some sort of marking the man in a reverse styled persecution from the Atheist.

Sevens



No it means
i am convinced you presenting such arguement under false pretences. Some people, on this forum, present absurd arguements for fun to see how quickly they are "jumped upon" by other members who are appauled by its absurdity. I think you cannot believe these claims you are preaching. And I put to you if someone posed similar claims about mystery books and lost cities proving some other deity i.e Thor or Vishnu you would dismiss it out of hand.



When believers and non-believers are agreeing on this site in arguing against you, its time to go home.[/quote]

What are you talking about man, there are no believers here, its an Atheist site, there are no believers here in this type of thing nor is the any believers from any group who believes this. The truth is so simple that no one believes it, not even the religions. They dont want to believe this because this if verified, it stands as a great obstacle and makes all groups who study this area look bare and exposed and challenges all groups.

Regarding the journey, the purpose is not get believers or followers there enough religions and non religions that want to ensnare the soul of man through various devices and spiritual weapons like fear and its variants.

The research is only here to be available in case its needed and also to debate the matter in the interim.

The real truth of the matter is that everyone would like this to conveniently go away.


Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:18 pm

fireoflife wrote:Sevens, as much as I believe in God, going on evidence of lost cities and the Urantia book (plagiaristic shite) is not the way to present evidence of the existence of God. If anything the lost cities prove that the cities existed and that is that, if they are in fact lost cities and not just natural formations (I know there are a few cities under the sea, out and about but it seems there is very little to go on with the images shown, there is better evidence of underwater cities with other sources including one off of Japan and a few off of south america).



 

If anything the lost cities prove that the cities existed and that is that, if they are in fact lost cities



I have a list to be verified in the gathering of all the clues.

One item is legible script and we already now what's inscribed on the stone slabs and we know its 24 character script, similar to the Aryan language.

If we can discover and verify the script in its content then I would think its Dalamatia City. Core samples of the wall should reach down to 500,000 years at the base and its should be petrified brick.

I know what to look for and we all have to do is verify. The images do match the description of the city entirely.

To determine whether its the truth is to go there and that is that.

 

better evidence of underwater cities with other sources including one off of Japan and a few off of south america



Ive heard all kinds of reports from manmade to natural and there is still confusion there. But interestingly the location is reflected in there myths and apparently the location goes back 30,000 years ago when the sea was much lower. So being reflected in there myth is the same type as in this journey, reflected in books. Looks like one has to back engineer the legends, nothing different here but I already know what to look for as per Urantia book and I can see this journey reflected in the books of religions, myths and legends.

The Urantia Book says that is draws from all human sources and if there no reference in human documentation then they rely of there own records of all the realities of man. A better record than out limited sources and knowledge.

Also no one has to believe this journey, no one.

Its here for the purpose of demonstration of whether God exist or not. I believe there will be a demonstration, in actual fact its a set up. A Paradise Universal Government set up that will ensnare man.

Being led into the trap of truth!

The sorting out of chaff and wheat where the chaff will be like dust in the wind.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:45 am

DiFontane wrote:
sevens wrote:Ive heard all kinds of reports from manmade to natural and there is still confusion there. But interestingly the location is reflected in there myths and apparently the location goes back 30,000 years ago when the sea was much lower.


You already have the location of Atlantis / 1st Eden utterly wrong. Despite your intensive
reasearch and all the pictures you presented, you ignored basic scientific facts - it's a scientific fact that the location has been under 1000 m of water for more than 5 million years.
Start your Atlantis/1st Eden argument over by showing us first some evidence that Atlantis/1st Eden could have been there. Why don't you present one single scientific article that says that the east Mediterranean Sea has been lower, let's say 800 m than today in the last 100 000 years?
See, if you don't, then you are asking us not only to believe something, but to ignore all scientific evidences since they contradict your position that the east Mediterranean Sea has been lower 1000 m sometime in the last 100 000 years.
And if your research on Atlantis/1st Eden led you to Sarmasts Atlantis, then your research is definitely wrong. There might be better chances of getting the location of Dalamatia City from any random stranger, since they are likely not to consider places where it's impossible to be.



 

You already have the location of Atlantis / 1st Eden utterly wrong. Despite your intensive reasearch and all the pictures you presented, you ignored basic scientific facts - it's a scientific fact that the location has been under 1000 m of water for more than 5 million years.



You are so limited in the facts, the location that I am speaking of has never had a core sample taken,
thats why a 3rd expedition must happen to optain these facts. The information about the submerged peninsula doesnt exist regarding the sediment within a core sample. I mentioned all this way down the track of this thread and offered images along with targets. There are areas in the Med that have been under the water for 5,000,000 as when the Med was closed there were 2 inland seas.

In the following is a fragment from the Book of Jubilees that I feel reflects the
relaities
of theses 2 inland seas and is reflective of 1Eden.

I between are my thoughts so you will have to wade through this Ok. Its just my thoughts and what I felt at the time some 3 year ago, things have evolved since then, these thought was before the discoveries of the other cities and there input into the saga.

 

A description of the 1st Garden of Eden locality within in the Mediterranean Basin, the deluge and the sign that is set for a future judgement.
Book of Jubilees
"And for Ham came out as the second portion, beyond the
Gejon (Nile), toward the south, to the right of the garden, and it proceeds to all the fire mountains, and goes toward the west to the sea of Atil and goes west until it reaches the sea of Mauk  the one of which everything descends that is destroyed

The above is a map of Eden and the 2 inland seas and flood of 1Eden of the flood is
reminiscent of the Gibraltar break and the Sicilian land bridge submergence as mentioned in the UB

my thoughts

Image

"And for Ham came out as the second portion, beyond the
Gejon, toward the south, (looking from the North) to the right of the garden, (approx 60 miles west of the Syrian coast, facing west) and it proceeds to all the fire mountains, (Volcanic areas west of the garden could mean Mt Olympus Cyprus a volcano to the west of the garden) and goes toward the west to the sea of Atil (The first sea that surrounded Eden west of the Volcano) and goes west until it reaches the sea of Mauk  (The Sea between the Sicilian land bridge and the Gibraltar dam.) the one sea of which everything descends that is destroyed. (Looking from the Eden location Eastern Mediterranean, the flood waters would originate from the second sea Mauk "the one which everything descends that is destroyed" A reminder of the deluge.)

4 places and like in this journey 4 cities a parallel to the Holy mountains which are reflective of the places.

26 (even) sweet spices acceptable before the Lord on the Mount. For the Lord has four places on the earth,
the Garden of Eden, and the Mount of the East, and this mountain on which thou art this day, Mount Sinai, and Mount Zion will be sanctified in the new creation for a sanctification of the earth;
This mountain is mentioned and is held in the same regard as a holy mountain.

In the following is another reference to the 1st Garden of Eden from the Book of Jubilees.

23 testified against (them) all. And he was taken from amongst the children of men, and
we conducted him into the Garden of Eden (1st Eden) in majesty and honour, and behold there he writes down the condemnation.24 and judgment of the world, and all the wickedness of the children of men. And on account of it (God) brought the waters of the flood upon all the land of Eden; (Gibraltar split) for there he was set as a sign (So the submerged 1stEden becomes a sign for the future.) and that he should testify against all the children of men
, that he should recount all the 25 deeds of the generations until the day of condemnation. (judgement day) And he burnt the incense of the sanctuary,  (This to me has all the hallmarks of the Deluge of the 1st Garden of Eden, Not Noah. Also a sign is set for the future judgement. The discovery activates the seal or sign.)
 



Looking at this verse
iun these days "we conducted him into the Garden of Eden" Its true as in the journey to 1stEden of today . And this following piece like in this actual journey to the ancient places and the nature of the message throughout this thread "in majesty and honour, and behold there he writes down the condemnation.24 and judgment of the world" Isnt that whats happening today now or the theme becoming apparent??

Image

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/AtlantisLw.wmv

Im ages of the ancient coastline of the Sea of Atil of the second inland sea of the Med.

Image

Here is an image of the
desication of the Sicilian Landbridge that occured as it submerged due the rising of the Sea Mauk, this occured
because of the Gilbraltar break.

Image

and another view.

Image

 

Start your Atlantis/1st Eden argument over by showing us first some evidence that Atlantis/1st Eden could have been there. Why don't you present one single scientific article that says that the east Mediterranean Sea has been lower, let's say 800 m than today in the last 100 000 years?



There is ample evidence that demonstrates that the Med was lower than today, Im surprised you dont know this.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/index.html

Sevens

 

 


 


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:00 pm

RaspK wrote:I'm sure our knowledge of geography here in Greece is not anywhere near your grande accomplishments, sevens...

By the way, why is it that people like you never go entirely out of their way to show they are right? :nono:



I just happen to post what I have discovered which I believe is very important and involves mankind, I am working in faith and what i find and make connections along the way.

Off course no one has to believe this and no one will. Really speaking I am testing what I have found in the books and in the demonstration..

I would like to know what the atheist thinks and that's why I put up my research for scrutiny, quite happy to do so. As you now its an on the run journey and it will take sometime to prove. I know you what me to go away which is fair enough but I haven't finished yet.

Just be patient my friends and brothers.

I just wanted to see the greatest rejection from all quarters of society of the greatest mystery ever! Very interesting results! I jsut wanted to see for myself a great thing rejected by everyone on every level of religion and no religion. I wanted to fulfill scripture in the reality!

From what I understand, its enlightenment before judgment which sounds similar to Truth unto Judgment. I believe that would be the demonstration of God proving himself that he exists and is personal, once and for all, for all man to see. I also read in it, there is penalty for those who abuse the opportunity,

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:08 am

DiFontane wrote:
sevens wrote:Ahhhhhh all you guys are on the run. Sure its easy to say no its wrong, but you dont know that yet. Right!

How do you guys know that I am wrong?? entirely! Even before all things have been investigated physicaly and thoroughly checked out through a number of expeditions..

ahahahahahaha

Sevens



We know you're wrong, entirely, because your method of locating places led you to put Atlantis /1st Eden in a place which is scientificly proven to be under 1000 m of water since 5 000 000 years.
Just getting a location wrong may not show your method is wrong but ignoring the scientific facts that it is impossible to be this specific place proves your method is wrong. Entirely.



 

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:08 am

DiFontane wrote:
sevens wrote:Ahhhhhh all you guys are on the run. Sure its easy to say no its wrong, but you dont know that yet. Right!

How do you guys know that I am wrong?? entirely! Even before all things have been investigated physicaly and thoroughly checked out through a number of expeditions..

ahahahahahaha

Sevens



We know you're wrong, entirely, because your method of locating places led you to put Atlantis /1st Eden in a place which is scientificly proven to be under 1000 m of water since 5 000 000 years.
Just getting a location wrong may not show your method is wrong but ignoring the scientific facts that it is impossible to be this specific place proves your method is wrong. Entirely.



DiFontane, youre just wrong in your reply and show nothing not even data. Just shallow opinions without any demonstration.

There were 2 inland seas which may have been there for 5 millions of years as found in certain core sample in certain places that were underwater in the whole time.

What Im saying, due to tectonic movement the peninsula perhaps emerged above the water in that time or could of been there above water in the whole time. We need to do a core sample at the location of 1stEden.

There are some very interesting anomalies there and the natural mud volcanoes on the raised peninsula which were enhanced by man, such as the acropolis Hill and its 3 coplanar circles on the top and at the base.

We been there you haven't been there, you have no knowledge of the finer detail in the findings of the expeditions just stuff you read in the news articles which only a limited expression at the time.

The 1stEden/Atlantis project never ignored scientific fact, we use science and harmonize it with what is written.

There is another to confirm the Gibraltar break.

Here is an excerpt from the Urantia Book.

 

About the time of these climatic changes in Africa, England separated from the continent, and Denmark arose from the sea, while the isthmus of Gibraltar, protecting the western basin of the Mediterranean, gave way as the result of an earthquake, quickly raising this inland lake to the level of the Atlantic Ocean.


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Presently the Sicilian land bridge submerged, creating one sea of the Mediterranean and connecting it with the Atlantic Ocean. This cataclysm of nature flooded scores of human settlements and occasioned the greatest loss of life by flood in all the world's history.

This engulfment of the Mediterranean basin immediately curtailed the westward movements of the Adamites, while the great influx of Saharans led them to seek outlets for their increasing numbers to the north and east of Eden. As the descendants of Adam journeyed northward from the valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates, they encountered mountainous barriers and the then expanded Caspian Sea. And for many generations the Adamites hunted, herded, and tilled the soil around their settlements scattered throughout Turkestan. Slowly this magnificent people extended their territory into Europe. But now the Adamites enter Europe from the east and find the culture of the blue man thousands of years behind that of Asia since this region has been almost entirely out of touch with Mesopotamia.



What if we confirm the additional information related to the Gibraltar break, such as:

1. the timing of England separating from the mainland
2. the timing when Denmark arose out of the sea.

 

About the time of these climatic changes in Africa, England separated from the continent, and Denmark arose from the sea, while the isthmus of Gibraltar, protecting the western basin of the Mediterranean, gave way as the result of an earthquake, quickly raising this inland lake to the level of the Atlantic Ocean.



This triangulation may confirm the Gibraltar break at around 34,000 years ago.


Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:52 am

justwondering wrote:
sevens wrote:Image

This image here is based on Russian Bathymetric data and the 3d imaging was work done by a geologist when the Gibraltar Isthmus was closed.

When the Basin was flooded the Eastern Mediterranean coast uplifted while the Peninsula flooded and submerged over the time. This uplift and submergence explains why the current depth of the Peninsula is so deep.

Sevens



Before the GREAT FLOOD? Are you kidding me? :funny:

You are telling us there has been a great flood. Are we talking about the one where Noah took his petting zoo on a boat for a ride?



Here we go

I put up an image of Med Basin before the Med Deluge made by scientists, Im not even speaking of the Localized Noah's flood in Mesopotamia which was expanded by the priests in 600BC. Your replies are just Garbage talk. No research, no looking into the matter fully with references and images.

Absolutely nothing worthwhile to offer in the thread.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:30 am

justwondering wrote:
Didnt you say that you had enough of this thread and you were moving on to better things.

You said that 3 days ago or so and now you are here repeating yourself.

Surely there are more interesting threads out there that have mutual interest.

Sevens



Is there ANYONE HERE I once again ask you, that has any mutual interest in your fallacious claims? ANYONE?

I ask you again to scour this thread and provide me with evidence that anyone is interested in your pseudoscientific, outstandingly superstitious claims.



What is this some gang up now. Everyone has voiced there views, everyone has read them and stated there position.

Why do you have to this for Just move on if you dont like.

I base my work on the Urantia Book and from there I work with other books.
Thats my focalisation in this path for me.

Are you afraid some people reading this are considering other things??

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:43 am

justwondering wrote:Where is your evidence? Who are your scientists? Do you have anything to do with these scientists? At first you were begging us all to go on this expedition with you. Now you're telling us there are two expeditions "to boot".

I'm not afraid of a damn thing. Your nonsense is just that -- nonsense. It's not based on anything but hopeful religious thinking and psuedoscience -- cloaked in new age woo.



I found this an interesting study

http://www.boostdam.net/stories/ShepardVindicated.html

and this one.

http://www.boostdam.net/stories/ShepardVindicated.html

Also an interesting question. When did England separate from the mainland and when did Denmark emerge. If the answers can be found here then this could point to the Urantia Book assertion.

 

About the time of these climatic changes in Africa, England separated from the continent, and Denmark arose from the sea, while the isthmus of Gibraltar, protecting the western basin of the Mediterranean, gave way as the result of an earthquake, quickly raising this inland lake to the level of the Atlantic Ocean




Another question is when did the climatic changes happen in Africa. The above sounds like a major tectonic movement at the time around 34000 years ago. As a result England separated and Denmark emerged I would think overtime after the break of Gibraltar after which climatic changes happened in Africa.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:30 pm

Faithhead

Humble what a Laugh!
Man O man are you afraid of this information or what.

This journey might be true eh! and your afraid to find out the truth, that's why you're against this. Because you dont to go out there and find out the truth of the matter.

It maybe right! and you could be awfully wrong in your limited ideas and that's what's being demonstrated.

Sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:39 pm

carlbrownson wrote:This looks an awful lot like a joke. Even the title looks like a joke- no one would write 'prove God!!!' except an atheist making fun of religidiots, I think.

If it's not a joke, then this thread is really sad. But it's a joke.



Hi Carl thanks for having a look, its not a joke, its a result of my research, just trying to find the truth of the matter either way, true or not and which does mean an expedition or a few of them.

Some people just dont like it and that's to be expected. The people who dont like honest research want to shut this thread down. I thought the Atheist world was a free world with freedom and Liberty for man in his expression. I just happen to believe that there is a God and trying to prove it through the ancient places.

Many people attempt to bog down the expression of this research and that's the reason for so many posts. Nothing new when you look back in the history of man in his suppression of truthful research. Its the same people who point fingers at other people doing the same thing the same suppression and yet they do it themselves as demonstrated. Contradiction on the run!

Its all an attempt to prevail against this research as written in Jeremiah 15 but they will not succeed as foreseen.

All the best

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:51 pm

LucidFlight wrote:
carlbrownson wrote:This looks an awful lot like a joke. Even the title looks like a joke- no one would write 'prove God!!!' except an atheist making fun of religidiots, I think.

If it's not a joke, then this thread is really sad. But it's a joke.


Image



Good and accurate post
LucidFlight, That the story on the most rejected truth of everything as foreseen in all the scripts in the many generations of mankind.

Yet the rejected truth of everything will be the greatest Omen coming to pass for man.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:58 pm

Hence materialism, atheism, is the maximation of ugliness, the climax of the finite antithesis of the beautiful. Highest beauty consists in the panorama of the unification of the variations which have been born of pre-existent harmonious reality.

The attainment of cosmologic levels of thought includes:

1. Curiosity. Hunger for harmony and thirst for beauty. Persistent attempts to discover new levels of harmonious cosmic relationships.

2. Aesthetic appreciation. Love of the beautiful and ever-advancing appreciation of the artistic touch of all creative manifestations on all levels of reality.

3. Ethic sensitivity. Through the realization of truth the appreciation of beauty leads to the sense of the eternal fitness of those things which impinge upon the recognition of divine goodness in Deity relations with all beings; and thus even cosmology leads to the pursuit of divine reality values--to God-consciousness.



"Hence materialism, atheism, is the
maximation of ugliness, the climax of the finite antithesis of the beautiful"

Here is the link to read

The 3 points exactly reflects the nature of this research.

The Urantia Book
http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimp ... ne=156#mfs

The 3 points exactly reflects the nature of this research.

 
Here is another one for thinking about.

 
line 140: The false science of materialism would sentence mortal man to become an outcast in the universe. Such partial knowledge is potentially evil; it is knowledge composed of both good and evil. Truth is beautiful because it is both replete and symmetrical. When man searches for truth, he pursues the divinely real.



Link
http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimp ... ne=140#mfs

and this one as written in the UB

 
line 143: No matter what the apparent conflict between materialism and the teachings of Jesus may be, you can rest assured that, in the ages to come, the teachings of the Master will fully triumph. In reality, true religion cannot become involved in any controversy with science; it is in no way concerned with material things. Religion is simply indifferent to, but sympathetic with, science, while it supremely concerns itself with the scientist.



Link to read

http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimp ... mit=Submit

Link to read

http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimp ... mit=Submit

and lastly this one

 
line 153: Materialism reduces man to a soulless automaton and constitutes him merely an arithmetical symbol finding a helpless place in the mathematical formula of an unromantic and mechanistic universe . But whence comes all this vast universe of mathematics without a Master Mathematician? Science may expatiate on the conservation of matter, but religion validates the conservation of men's souls--it concerns their experience with spiritual realities and eternal values.



 

and this one about Pessimism

 
line 181: The very pessimism of the most pessimistic materialist is, in and of itself, sufficient proof that the universe of the pessimist is not wholly material. Both optimism and pessimism are concept reactions in a mind conscious of values as well as of facts. If the universe were truly what the materialist regards it to be, man as a human machine would then be devoid of all conscious recognition of that very fact. Without the consciousness of the concept of values within the spirit-born mind, the fact of universe materialism and the mechanistic phenomena of universe operation would be wholly unrecognized by man. One machine cannot be conscious of the nature or value of another machine.



Link to read

http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimp ... ne=181#mfs

all food for thought!

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:51 pm

Well if this thread doesn't survive it would say to me that the Atheist cannot stand the rigor of this research and journey in proving God.

I have put up the proposal and posted up research and links based on scientific data emanating from expeditions, I have used the base source, the UB and connected fragments that I believe are relevant in many other books. I began a test of the existence of God and to demonstrate that. No one put up any solid data that I can find in backing the argument except for a comments from some scientist without reference. Information we are familiar with already, one has contested the fragments with counter evidence and the same with the Dalamatia City images that I have put up. All I have received is insults in an attempt to bog down this thread. But the truth doesn't go away!

So if this thread goes, that's OK but to me the Atheist looses the argument as that would be in the witness of deletion. But the journey doesn't end, it keeps on going until the change of everything in the expansion of mankind and his destiny! There are those who oppose this because it doesn't suit them.

About this thread its just a little patch where I can post up stuff, no one has to come here or read it...No worries. If people dont agree, Im sure there are other threads. If I have insulted people I am sorry, I post up here in case this information is required in case of a possible future event that would prove God and I want all mankind to be successful including the Atheist because he is my new brother and friend without condition whether he likes it or not. ahahahahahahahah!

Admit it, the place wouldn't be the same without this thread, would it now! ;) It makes people think about other things they haven't heard before.

ahahahahahah :cheers:



Sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:46 pm

Filker wrote:Keep on plugging, son. God bless you.



Only for your benefit my friend.

sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:09 pm

Still remeber this small post before it got thwarted.

 
Also an interesting question. When did England separate from the mainland and when did Denmark emerge. If the answers can be found here then this could point to the Urantia Book assertion.

 
The Link

http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimp ... e=50#mfsAb
out the time of these climatic changes in Africa, England separated from the continent, and Denmark arose from the sea, while the isthmus of Gibraltar, protecting the western basin of the Mediterranean, gave way as the result of an earthquake, quickly raising this inland lake to the level of the Atlantic Ocean




Another question is when did the climatic changes happen in Africa. The above sounds like a major tectonic movement at the time around 34000 years ago. As a result England separated and Denmark emerged I would think overtime after the break of Gibraltar after which climatic changes happened in Africa.



Anyway, I found this interesting article concerning England being attached to the mainland of Europe.

 

From the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/archaeolog ... e_01.shtml

The Mesolithic past
The Mesolithic, or Middle Stone Age, can seem a very remote and 'mysterious' time. It started in about 10,000BC, as the last Ice Age ended. Imagine northern Britain and everything north of this lying under vast ice sheets, with so much water locked up in the ice that sea levels could be 50m (160ft) below those of today.

'Animals returned to graze, and with the animals came people.'
What we now know as Britain was part of the European landmass in the Mesolithic Age, and was joined to France and Denmark. And the shallow fishing grounds in the North Sea that are now known as the Dogger Bank were then a huge island.

But as the ice melted and retreated northwards, the seas rose, just as they are doing today, and the newly shaped lands became covered first in arctic tundra and then in dense mixed forests. Animals returned to graze, and with the animals came people.



Anyway here is a clue there that may involve England and the Danish Land mass related to the Gibraltar Break or Tectonic movement. It implies warming and ice melting that began in around 34,000 BC, perhaps the beginnings of the Ice melt. I think its a worthwhile track to follow and see what more evidence can be found and see if a scientific relationship can be found as written in the UB.

Looking into the article and regarding the findings on the shoreline there. Here is some background from the UB

 

Link to read

http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimp ... ine=52#mfs

Though the remains of the Foxhall peoples were the last to be discovered in England, these Andonites were really the first human beings to live in those regions. At that time the land bridge still connected France with England; and since most of the early settlements of the Andon descendants were located along the rivers and seashores of that early day, they are now under the waters of the English Channel and the North Sea, but some three or four are still above water on the English coast .



Quite amazing "now under the waters of the English Channel and the North Sea," So maybe these locations of the early settlements of the Andonites can be found under the waters of the English Channel and the North Sea

Image

Hey lets do an expedition to the English Channel and the North Sea and find the submerged lost remains of the Andonites of Britain ahahahahahahahahahahah!

All we have to do, is track the ancient submerged river beds with a ROV and we will find the locations of the early Andonite settlements, well maybe.

And what of those locations on the shoreline of Britain above ground, perhaps they look similar to the ones on image?


Here is some links I found regarding the Danish Landmass, it may indicate the track Im following, not sure.

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/jour ... 1&SRETRY=0

Sevens


This was the picture of the world prior to the beginnings of the great expansions of the violet race, about twenty-five thousand years ago. The hope of future civilization lay in the second garden between the rivers of Mesopotamia. Here in southwestern Asia there existed the potential of a great civilization, the possibility of the spread to the world of the ideas and ideals which had been salvaged from the days of Dalamatia and the times of Eden.


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods
Interesting timing having a eclispe Now.

 
Quote:

Over the moon for eclipse
In a part of the world that has recently seen menacing natural phenomena, this event is hailed as a good omen for the Olympics

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... 8262.story

XIAN, China — Finally, China had an act of nature it could celebrate.

Crowds of Chinese joined watchers from Canada, Russia, India and much of the rest of the world for a solar eclipse on Friday.

The eclipse — with the moon passing in front of the sun — began in Arctic Canada and swept across Greenland, passing through western Siberia, Mongolia and ending in central China.



For many Chinese, it was a welcome respite after a 2008 that began with heavy snowstorms, followed by China's deadliest earthquake in a generation, then river flooding — and even a huge algae bloom at the Olympic sailing site.

But on Friday evening, the eclipse — once a bad omen for China's imperial rulers — was cheered by a country eager for any auspicious sign before the Games. State media called China's first solar eclipse of the century the "Olympics eclipse," and TV stations broadcast it live

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/wor ... 67318.html

Millions of Chinese gathered along the ancient Silk Road to witness a solar eclipse. This is the view from Xiangfan in central China's Hubei province.



 

Millions of Chinese gathered along the ancient Silk Road to witness a solar eclipse. This is the view from Xiangfan in central China's Hubei province.

Its interesting that the eclipse comes in the beginning of this month of when Jesus was Born, 21stAugust 7BC. Interesting timing considering the journey and what has been said.

Here is what Nostradamus says about an eclipse that seems to have an Omen and an interpretation attached to it. I wonder if its about this journey.

 

Quote:
34
When the eclipse of the Sun will then be,
The monster will be seen in full day:
Quite otherwise will one interpret it,
High price unguarded: none will have foreseen it.
.

An image of Britain connected to Europe which sunk sometime after 34,000 years when the Gilbraltar isthmus broke as claimed by the UB.

Image



Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:17 pm

BWE_the real_one. wrote:
sevens wrote:Still remember this small post before it got thwarted.
[snip]

Hey lets do an expedition to the English Channel and the North Sea and find the submerged lost remains of the Andonites of Britain
ahahahahahahahahahahah!

All we have to do, is track the ancient submerged river beds with a
ROV and we will find the locations of the early Andonite settlements, well maybe.

And what of those locations on the shoreline of Britain above ground, perhaps they look similar to the ones on image?


Here is some links I found regarding the Danish Landmass, it may indicate the track Im following, not sure.

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/jour ... 1&SRETRY=0

We know Denmark has a high amount of Earthquakes which is all about emergence and submergence of plates. We also know that the effect of submergence is
hydrocrabons which surrounds the Danish landmass off shore and wells onshore.

Earthquakes around the Denmark landmass

http://www.geus.dk/publications/bull/nr ... -28001.jpg




Sevens


Dude, you are either spending a lot of time entertaining yourself or you seriously need help.



Hey Dude why dont you post something worthwhile, there are scientific links to threads that could be explored further. There are scientific papers you can study but nothing much comes forth.

thanks Dude
sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:21 pm

Ian373 wrote:What in Zeus' name are you babbling about??



You can read the thread, you have eyes in following the tracks. See if there is some evidence around to back the assertions made in the UB. All the research I put up is all related in proving that God exists and the tracks can go any where as you can see in this thread.

What are you on about?

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods
Well its been a battle on the RD forums regarding the test of whether God exists, which he does.

It might come to the point where I might have to give up thread as it is all negative and they show no counter evidence in there assertion, real children of the system. Just abusive comments.

http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/vie ... 5#p1163935

There is a passage in the bible that says dont bother.

 
Quote:
13 For according to the number of thy cities were thy gods, O Judah; and according to the number of the streets of Jerusalem have ye set up altars to that shameful thing, even altars to burn incense unto Baal. 14 Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up a cry or prayer for them: for I will not hear them in the time that they cry unto me for their trouble.



I think we are in the scenario of this passage especially in this case on the Atheist site. Remember I opened the Current Elijah 2nd test based on the Elijah's 1st test, that God does exist and is personal and I was set to prove that. So whatever they do with the thread the test goes on until Judgment day.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:42 pm

You still have not provided any scientific evidence that there could have been a 1000 m drop of the Med Sea level in the last 50 000 years or that the Gibraltar Straits where closed 50 000 years ago.



Some posts back I mentioned to you that the mountains of the Eastern Med arose after the Med deluge. The reason for that is because of the extra weight of the water. The extra weight caused the East Med Basin to submerge further where the mountains to the Eastern shoreline arose.

There is a way to measure this.

In the middle of peninsula there was a great river that ran out of the peninsula and flowed East to the Euphrates. The land the river tracked was flat at the time. There is a remnant of this river but I cant recall the name in the minute.

I feel a good thing would to see if the ancient track of this river can be located and followed.

Here is an image of the submerged peninsula based on Russian Bathymetric data where you can clearly see the ancient bed of the river flowing clearly through the centre of the peninsula.

Image

Also there where 12 grand divisions built across the peninsula for protection and the walls should still be there.

Another worthwhile track to follow where science can help but it has to investigated to its fullest extent.

here is a smaller image.

Link to read
http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimp ... ine=62#mfs

 

PAPER 73 - THE GARDEN OF EDEN, Oct 19 2000

line 62: The coast line of this land mass was considerably elevated, and the neck connecting with the mainland was only twenty-seven miles wide at the narrowest point. The great river that watered the Garden came down from the higher lands of the peninsula and flowed east through the peninsular neck to the mainland and thence across the lowlands of Mesopotamia to the sea beyond. It was fed by four tributaries which took origin in the coastal hills of the Edenic peninsula, and these are the "four heads" of the river which "went out of Eden," and which later became confused with the branches of the rivers surrounding the second garden.

 

 

Sevens


Postby sevens on Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:11 pm

Now it's not my fault you missed my post on page 30. There's the information, there's a link, you can download the study in english as a pdf-file. Go ahead, read it, it may also answer why your core samples are not necessary.



Actually you have missed all my links and posts.

I know about the links and core samples but what I would like to see are the core samples on the peninsula as I have mentioned in many threads.

 

These findings lead to the conclusion that seafloor spreading in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea only occurred north of the Eratosthenes Seamount, and the oceanic crust was later subducted at the Cyprus Arc



http://www.sub.uni-hamburg.de/opus/volltexte/2006/2906/

So the study was made in the South Eastern Med not at the submerged Peninsula to the North Eastern Med Good one.

 

A great number of reflection seismic profiles was used for the analysis of the Messinian evaporites, which allowed an exhaustive investigation of the geometry of the evaporite layers, depositional phases of the evaporites and of their structural evolution. The Levantine Basin is located in the Southeastern Mediterranean Sea.



Interesting link

http://www.cosis.net/abstracts/EAE03/02 ... -02282.pdf

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:23 pm

DiFontane wrote:
sevens wrote:Actualy you have missed all my links and posts.

I know about the links and core samples but what I would like to see are the core samples on the peninsula as I have mentioned in many threads.

Sevens


Are you going to reply to my previous post or not?
 

sevens wrote:
These findings lead to the conclusion that seafloor spreading in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea only occurred north of the Eratosthenes Seamount, and the oceanic crust was later subducted at the Cyprus Arc



http://www.sub.uni-hamburg.de/opus/volltexte/2006/2906/

Interesting link

another link

http://www.cosis.net/abstracts/EAE03/02 ... -02282.pdf
Sevens


I told you so ;)



I just did man, the rest wasnt worth it.

 

Evidence
to this process is the subduction of Eratosthenes Seamount, located 100 km south
of Cyprus, the northern section of which is down-faulted as it subsides toward the
Arc. Since Eratosthenes Seamount is rooted in continental lithosphere, and the Troodos
ophiolite in southern Cyprus is an oceanic crust, the convergence of Africa and
Anatolia along Cyprus Arc was considered a prime example of ongoing



http://www.cosis.net/abstracts/EAE03/02 ... -02282.pdf

Ah so you have mention of subsidence, subsiding towards the Cyprus arc and which is ongoing and includes the submerged peninsula that's why its so deep.

There you go eh! evidence of subsidence from a researcher and there is the link.

So at the end of the day its all about tectonic plate movement, the very thing that destroyed Gilbraltar and which causes subsidence and other things.

And remember a core sample is required of the Peninsula north eastern Med which have not been done or is not available at this time. At the end of the day there is more going for my argument as the wall has been verified and the peninsula that written about in the UB, as you can see in the data. You got any data , actual data that you see like images from data and side scans or access to actual results to expeditions or is it just personal opinions with nothing else.


 

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:10 pm

Whilst on the subject of 1stEden, here is images of the Eastern Med and the Cyprus Arc




 

This was a report at the time of the 1stExpedition to 1stEden/Atlantis of Cyprus 2004.

 

May 18th 05
Last year Dr. John Hall, one of the world's leading authorities on the bathymetry of the eastern Mediterranean seafloor, told me about his upcoming book. He was onboard the Russian research vessel "R/V Akademic Strakhov" (1987 and 1990) and worked on gathering the multibeam sonar data that we used to create the first maps of the seafloor between Cyprus and Syria back in 2000. The scientists at NOAA in Colorado had immediately mentioned Dr. Hall as the expert for the region when I met them in early 1999. In those days, getting my hands on that data was a God-send and it helped me to identify and match Plato's description of the "great plain of Atlantis," and surprisingly, even the Acropolis Hill.

He's currently publishing 2000 copies of his new book ("Geological Framework of the Levant") which, along with his previous book ("Geological Structure of the Northeastern Mediterranean," published in collaboration with the Russian Academy of Science), is probably the most complete all-around analysis of the geological structure of the eastern Mediterranean in existence. Dr. Hall told me about one of his colleagues, a well-known Russian geophysicist named Ya’akov Petrovitch Malovitskiy, who had published academic papers (1978) in Russia in which he called the Levantine Basin the "sunken continent." This was, not surprisingly, incredible to hear because that was exactly how I viewed the eastern Mediterranean seafloor. I had published in my book that the whole eastern Mediterranean seafloor must have sunk due to the displacement of mass through massive volcanic eruptions resulting from seismic activity throughout the region, along with the weight of the Atlantic waters that rushed in to fill the Mediterranean and in time pushed down on the mantle. In other words, the reason that our target area is so deep is not due simply to the flood that filled in the Med. basin, but because the basin itself also sank considerably. When you look at the maps of the region that we've developed you can actually see it.

I asked Dr. Hall if he had published anything about that in his upcoming book and was surprised to learn that not only had he published the reference from Malovitskiy, but he had also mentioned the Atlantis Project. Dr. Hall has been extremely courteous and helpful to me even though it's hard for him to swallow the Atlantis theory, but then he's an academic earth scientist and Atlantis is a taboo subject among his circles. Earth scientists are among the most conservative scientists in the world. I'm often asked by producers and people not familiar with the situation at hand about getting earth scientists to come forward and support this project, but they don't realize what a fatal blow that would be to these scientist's career and reputation, given Atlantis's supposed mythological nature and taboo status. It would be like expecting to get "official" acknowledgement from someone working for 14th century Vatican to come forward and support the notion that the earth may be round -- it's just not going to happen. This is not to say that there aren't many scientists in close touch with me who clearly say that the anomalies around our target hill "look manmade and not natural." While Dr. Hall himself would never say this is Atlantis, neither he or any of his colleagues have any explanation for the purported "wall." They simply don't know. Anyhow, I received an electronic copy of his book (Volume II, Part III, Intro) and this is the relevant passage:

"The Levantine Basin is traditionally the deep basin at the eastern end of the Mediterranean. Since its physiography was first described in the seminal work of Emery, Heezen and Allan (1966) based upon a reconnaissance cruise of the R/V Aragonese in the very early sixties, the Levantine Basin has piqued the interest of earth scientists. The region hosts the junction of three plates, whose interaction has produced complex structures. Because of its relative remoteness, and the uneasy relationships between the seven national entities along its littoral, the area was not easy to investigate. However, the probing since the 1970s has shown that the basin is filled with a great quantity of sediments (12 km or more), and that the nature of its underpinnings is not simple. Many investigators have studied the area. Some have returned again and again to this problematic place. Most propose models for its origin and history based on the findings of the particular tools employed, whether they be bathymetry, gravity, magnetics, seismic reflection, seismic refraction, teleseismic investigations, or submarine geology based on coring, drilling, and dredging. The region’s recent history also seems to beckon. From the pioneering study of our colleague Ya’akov Petrovitch Malovitskiy (1978) who proposed on the basis of seismic investigations that the Levantine Basin was a sunken continent, we advance to recent extrapolations (http://www.dalamatiacity.com - Sarmast, 2003) regarding the ‘finding’ of Atlantis at depths of ~1500 m between the West Tartus Ridge and the Gelendzhik Rise, based upon a computer analysis of the Strakhov’s multibeam soundings." -- Dr. John K. Hall.

....................

What this means is that we have an academic paper published by a well-known Russian geophysicist who said that our target area is part of a "sunken continent" based on "seismic investigations." We also already have scientific consensus proving that the Mediterranean sea-level was once much lower than today, and due to earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, a huge flood came in through the Strait of Gibraltar and flooded the whole basin with astonishing speed and power. As far as the supposed age of the flood, which scientists currently put at about five million years ago, well, even that has no ground relating to our theory. And that is because no core samples have ever been taken from the Cyprus Arc, where the rectangular valley is located. Not one! The core samples that have been collected come from the southern region near the Eratosthenes Seamount and elsewhere, which according to our studies were under water at the time of Atlantis's existence. In other words, their assertion that the cored areas have been under water for the last five million years does not conflict with the Cyprus theory; they simply take it for granted that the Cyprus Arc (which is on a plateau and elevated above the cored areas) was also under water -- but they have no proof. It is merely an assumption. Put all this together with the fact that we have a perfect match with Plato's detailed account of the island, its rectangular plain, the Acropolis Hill, the island's flora and fauna, animal life, mineral composition etc., and you have the world's first solution to the Atlantis mystery. The idea that this is all just a "coincidence" is joke.


 

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:26 pm

One question if its all about tectonic plate movement:
How fast ist the oceanic crust subducted at the Cyprus Arc?



You ask this but I am no scientist just a researcher, this question may have to be investigated further but the whole Cyprus arc does subside from what I can read and does include the location of the submerged peninsula. The rise of the mountains of the Eastern sea board my provide some answers.

How would you calculate the age of a mountain range, I would assume that the mountains of the eastern Med are young mounts, it would be an interesting study to determine the age. Another study would be lake Lisan or the dead sea. I came up with some interesting results of the water levels based on scientific data, its was an interesting pathway.

Sevens
 

 


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:03 am

Let's see that "academic paper".

What I posted was a report done by Robert Sarmast on a book written by Dr John Hall geologist.

The report is in the book

 
Are they saying that only core samples are able to determine the age?



I would think a core sample would provide a geological record like rings in a tree, Most of the reports are based on cors samples on other location of the med but not at the peninsula in the cyprus arc.

 

Allright, it's on a plateau and elevated above the cored areas. It's still 1000 m deep. Not 10, 15, or 20.


Man do you read? I told before with a link with an extract, that the subsidence is ongoing in the Cyprus arc and it did infer a late time of subsidence. And the place does have volcanoes surrounding the arc.

Just one simple observation, if you look at the mountains on the eastern Med this may give you an idea of the amount of subsidence that has occurred in the last 34,000 in the Cyprus Arc assuming the eastern sea board was flat land at the time.

Dont worry about the rest of the post.

Sevens
 


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:38 pm

Hutsion, your post is just not worth it.

There are volumes of information that I have posted that crossflows with many other sources independent of each other that appear to have a relationship to the objective or direction.

Only those with the eyes can see and hear.

The images I have posted if you go through the thread are all images based on Bathymetric Data, real stuff.

You talking alot fluff yourself, the expeditions have been completed the confirmations has been made in harmony to what is written and with more to go. Sorry there is more to go.

If you dont like it just move on man. Its alright, I dont care if anyone doesn't believe this, because this project has a completely different purpose which is not related to who gets there first or who has the name, nothing to do with the worldly things of ego, pride and the B.S. upon B.S. which is everywhere man in case you haven't noticed.

What you see in your face is the path to a worldwide correction. Simple as that!

I showed more here than anyone and given up much, that's why its 30 pages long. Another reason is that there are those that want to close this thread down so they attempt to degrade it by B.S. also this thread is the toilet of humanity where if a guy gets pissoff he can come here and vent his anger and B.S, that's OK, I dont mind. That's how the world system works and its children eh! That's what we are taught at school to divide and rule where in fact we are loosing the fight to save the planet and all its species, the rule of the enlightened ones and where its leading us to Global Catastrophe

That's the purpose of this research to be a spanner in the world of the destructive and selfish nature of man with his BS devices, in his complete and utter ugliness.

At the end of the day when Judgement comes, the universe will only come for there own and they dont give nothing for those with disrespect, it will come on a day when you guys, in your disrespect and dishonor will be cleaning your pants out in face of a worldwide event where you will panic, spiritual panic of great dread.

What I speak of is an intervention by the Paradise Universal Government of the eternal realms and it has all to do with the adjudication of Lucifer and involves the last Rebel remaining on this planet in the spiritual realm. This intervention will involve a physical demonstration of existence and will involve the decisions of man regarding the truth of himself and of everything. It will involve a self judgment in light of truth.

This day will come and we are in the process...Dont underestimate this! Im not against you and we can explore this together and not be against each other. Its only here to help you.

Anyway have a good day.

By the way did you know that a representative of the Catholic Church was seen walking into the Vatican with the Urantia Book in his hand. Dead set! maybe there are more reading into these posts and I did write to the catholic church. Maybe they are not estimating this. You knows!
----------------------------------------------------

Here is an Omen considering where the journey is at. The eclipse on the 1st August 08

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/wor ... 67318.html

Image

Millions of Chinese gathered along the ancient Silk Road to witness a solar eclipse. This is the view from Xiangfan in central China's Hubei province.

Its interesting that the eclipse comes in the beginning of this month of when Jesus was Born, 21stAugust 7BC. Interesting timing considering the journey and what has been said and how close it is to the Olympics.

Here is what Nostradamus says about an eclipse that seems to have an Omen and an interpretation attached to it. I wonder if its about this journey? I bet you it is and this could be a sign of the times.

 
34
When the eclipse of the Sun will then be,
The monster will be seen in full day:
Quite otherwise will one interpret it,
High price unguarded: none will have foreseen it.
. (except me)



sevens

 


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:21 pm

Faithhead wrote:
sevens wrote:Faithhead

Humble what a Laugh!
Man O man are you afraid of this information or what.

This journey might be true eh! and your afraid to find out the truth, that's why you're against this. Because you dont want to go out there and find out the truth of the matter. True or Not, either way you dont want to find out, youre no scientist, nor scholar and goes for your mate, Just Wondering who is wondering.

It maybe right! and you could be awfully wrong in your limited ideas and that's what's being demonstrated.

Sevens



I am a scientist actually, not that it would make a difference. So I would suggest you stay away suggesting what I am or am not, because it is skirting the line of ad hominen. I have done you the courtesy of reading all your posts for 30 pages now and I think I am old enough to decide now what I take as plausible and what I dismiss as BS.

You know what confuses me sevens. You seem to be on the edge of the greatest religious breakthrough of all time, yet as I read the paper, there is no mention of it. No rich religious fanatic, frantically assembling an exploration in the hope of getting there first. No forums of scientists horridly discussing the earth shattering consequences of such a discovery. In fact there is nothing. Just you and a couple of people who's best argument is "You'll be sorry when your wrong".

May I suggest also supplying the information that is being requested by other posters here and supply the independantly peer-reviewed academic papers to back your claims up.

Peace
FH



Yeah no worries, you probably read this project is not accepted on any level of society. So you can rejoice in that.

Ive posted much and there's so much more that I could post but Im wondering whether its worth the effort.

The problem is this project is all about religion where it can use science to make some breakthroughs, since a scientists in the main is secular many of them dont research religion for any fruits it may have to offer up. So they have understanding of this journey and the messages attached to the places.

How would a scientist know anything about this if he does not study the matter, just judges based on limited information. Scientists are not taught to think beyond the square. Im not sure if they are taught to use creative imagination that is realistic using all the information to find the tracks. You have to think beyond the limited square to make the great breakthroughs in life and in discovery and no one will understand nor accept it in the first instance.


I mean we confirmed the Natural wall of 1stEden and confirmed which was built up as it is written and still no one believes because they are all in denial and its comes deep from the inner self. Its all to uncomfortable and man is basically a wuss in his comfort zone to explore new things. That the problem.

No scientist is going to believe this in the first instance, the scientist has already made there mind from the outset.

I have posted much stuff that people seem to avoid and would rather criticize than get involved in the research, DiFontaine is the only one to put academic papers that could be studied, even though he is opposed to this outright he still has questioned the research and put information up. That I respect.

No else has done that, even the great scientists here would rather criticize than going through all the information and try to find the info, even though they far better access than myself.

I try to think of ways to prove with an open mind and everyone including the scientist says its wrong, it cant work. blah, blah, blah but nothing constructive or positive. Instead of being constructive to look into it, they would rather judge. That attitude is the case all over the world and yet these people are so called enlightened ones.

and what about if its true, entirely and it comes to pass?? and you were all wrong and you failed to look into the matter as you are taught to.

Well, I have put up good information and good tracks to be followed by the scientist, its probably why the scientist was not selected to do this job because of the conditioning and the lack of creativity to searching for the hidden things of the truth of everything which is beyond science and its limitations.

thanks for your post

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:06 pm

Posse Comitatus wrote:Fifthed. Although if we all stopped posting it'd go away anyway.



 

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:06 pm

Posse Comitatus wrote:Fifthed. Although if we all stopped posting it'd go away anyway.



That is the truest thing you have ever said.

I commend you.

Ok what about if we do this.

Everyones stop posting and then I will stop posting

OK

Lets try it.

But remember when this thread drops down to the never never, the dye is cast and there will be no further information coming forth from this Sevens. However, I will respond to those who like me to post.

The destiny is then set and it will come to pass and there will be nothing further coming from me, you have sufficient information and links.

In other words you will be cut off.

Is that a risk worth taking considering the odds, a gambling man would be smarter, even the ones pushing for closure aren't you being completely selfish in case this a sure thing and it affects your people adversely and you tried to keep it from him. You be left to your peers if that occurs.

Its all utter spiritual ugliness and it will not be admitted in the universal realms of eternity. In other words you pass your own judgment on yourself due to your attitude, particularly the selfish one, like the one I am replying to. Very selfish person.

But lets not respond, Posse can take full responsibility and may even be a stumbling of her people.

No response and this thread will go away.

OK everyone, dont respond, not even insults lets try hard to see this thread dropped.

After which Judgment will come to pass and we are right in the middle of the signs and will end the test of proving God, it can happen at anytime and we dont have to go to the places to prove but we have been exposed to the truth. You have been told the truth and that's all that is required.

Its a snare I tell you and you guys are falling right into it, head long just by your attitude and that's what the universal Fathers would like to view, your attitude and that will be the determining factor of destiny. We all ready know the answer and what will come to pass, you have demonstrated that, like in the days of Noah!!

Remember No response and this thread will go away.

Like I said the evac plan conducted by the Ancient of Days will only come for there own, in faith and that is it

That is That!

ahahahahahahaha

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:38 pm

Hutsion, your post is just not worth it.

There are volumes of information that I have posted that
crossflows
with many other sources independent of each other that appear to have a relationship to objective.

Only those with the eyes can see and hear.

The images I have posted if you go through the thread are all images based on Bathymetric Data, real stuff.

You talking alot fluff yourself, the expeditions have been completed the confirmations has been made in harmony to what is written and with more to go. Sorry there is more to go.

If you dont like it just move on man. Its alright, I dont care if anyone doesn't believe this, because this project has a completely different purpose which is not related to who gets there first or who has the name, nothing to do with the worldly things of ego, pride and the B.S. upon B.S. which is everywhere man in case you haven't noticed.

What you see in your face is the path to a worldwide correction. Simple as that!

I showed more here than anyone and given up much, that's why its 30 pages long. Another reason is that there are those that want to close this thread down so they attempt to degrade it by B.S. also this thread is the toilet of humanity where if a guy gets pissoff he can come here and vent his anger and B.S, that's OK, I dont mind. That's how the world system works and its children eh! That's what we are taught at school to divide and rule where in fact we are loosing the fight to save the planet and all its species, the rule of the enlightened ones and where its leading us to Global Catastrophe

That's the purpose of this research to be a spanner in the world of the destructive and selfish nature of man with his BS devices, in his complete and utter ugliness.

At the end of the day when Judgement comes, the universe will only come for there own and they dont give nothing for those with disrespect, it will come on a the day when you guys, in your disrespect and dishonor will be cleaning your pants out in a worldwide event where you will panic, spiritual panic of great dread.

What I speak of is an intervention by the Paradise Universal Government of the eternal realms and it has all to do with the adjudication of Lucifer and involves the last Rebel remaining on this planet in the spiritual realm. This intervention will involve a physical demonstration of existence and will involve the decisions of man regarding the truth of himself and of everything. It will involve a self judgment in light of truth.

This day will come and we are in the process...Dont underestimate this! Im not against you and we can explore this together and not be against each other. Its only here to help you.

Anyway have a good day.

By the way did you know that a representative of the Vatican was seen walking into the Vatican with the Urantia Book in his hand. Dead set! maybe there are more reading into these posts and I did write to the catholic church. Maybe they are not estimating this. You knows!

sevens

Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:52 am
ahahahahahaha

For sure ArchMichael, its a real spiritual battle. Least here we have faith in Jesus even though we all different views and ways of seeing things.

Discussions of this nature is just not possible.

You should see that latest post.

But least they have been told the truth from ancient times from the beginning times.

As far as I am concerned by not responding to the thread they have made up there decision.

And the process begins.

Im really curious about the eclipse and its timing being so close to the Olympic games and in relation to the events of this journey to ancient times.

If the thread drops down well I did my job the best I could, they have got the full message and Jeremiah 15 will prevail.
Remember the 2nd Elijah's test is still in the process of whether God exists and The Lord will stand by his faithful ones. That is the ongoing legacy I left behind, they will never get rid of this thread even deletion because they are conscious of the fact of the matter and what it entails, they are in the snare of truth. I believe what I left was a trap of truth and they are running headlong into it. How else would the lord sort the chaff from the wheat, it one perfect construct. The Atheist cannot avoid this no matter what he does.

They are not quite sure whether its true or not and there is doubt in there minds.

http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/vie ... 2#p1165642

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods
oranges wrote:

Sevens
I followed your links to that site before. I suspect you wont get anywhere with "hardcore"
athiests unless you actually present some results from an expedition. Saying to people on that forum who want things presented in a purely scientific way that you suspect x, y, or z exists at that site wont convince them.

 

No problem in that we have to get some evidence but we do have the evidence of 1stEden regarding the Natural wall and the Built up Acropolis. That specific thing is written about in the Urantia Book and more.

But anyway what I was attempting to demonstrate was the levels of this journey and the information that underpins it and physical things that can be seen. By my proving what is written, to me would verify the information of which many people would see logically, if the evidence is presented. We can and have presented the information of 1stEden but all quarters just run away in denial and this across the board. The Atheist is simply a spiritual coward that runs to the hills. He views are just nothing, chaff in the winds. I mean all his Baalim views will one day be totally destroyed in the day of destruction of untruth.

Elijah's 2nd Test as opened on the Atheist site will
consummate the destruction of Baalim or Molech alike who influence much of this world through the lower levels of mans thoughts and desires. The children of Baalim in denial of God will go down to their utter destruction and that is written. That will be the result of Elijah's current 2nd Test in proving that God exists and is personal.

Its there and its written about and we have only the 1st Glimpses of a string of major discoveries.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:59 pm

sciwoman wrote:
sevens wrote:
Posse Comitatus wrote:Fifthed. Although if we all stopped posting it'd go away anyway.



That is the truest thing you have ever said.

I commend you.

Ok what about if we do this.

Everyones stop posting and then I will stop posting

OK

Lets try it.

But remember when this thread drops down to the never never,
the dye is cast and there will be no further information coming forth from this Sevens. However, I will respond to those who like me to post.

The destiny is then set and it will come to pass and there will be nothing further coming from me, you have sufficient information and links.

In other words you will be cut off.

Is that a risk worth taking considering the odds, a gambling man would be smarter, even the ones pushing for closure aren't you being completely selfish in case this a sure thing and it affects your people adversely and you tried to keep it from him. You be left to your peers if that occurs.

Its all utter spiritual ugliness and it will not be admitted in the universal realms of eternity. In other words you pass your own judgment on yourself due to your attitude, particularly the selfish one, like the one I am replying to. Very selfish person.

But lets not respond, Posse can take full responsibility and may even be a stumbling of her people.

No response and this thread will go away.

OK everyone, dont respond, not even insults lets try hard to see this thread dropped.

After which Judgment will come to pass and we are right in the middle of the signs and will end the test of proving God, it can happen at anytime and we dont have to go to the places to prove but we have been exposed to the truth. You have been told the truth and
thats all that is required.

Its a snare I tell you and you guys are falling right into it, head long just by your attitude and that's what the universal Fathers would like to view, your attitude and that will be the determining factor of destiny. We all ready know the answer and what will come to pass, you have demonstrated that, like in the days of Noah!!

Remember
No response and this thread will go away.

Like I said the evac plan conducted by the Ancient of Days will only come for there own, in faith and that is it

That is That!

ahahahahahahaha


Sevens


Sorry, the thread isn't going to drop to the bottom yet. This is preaching, which is not allowed here. One formal warning has been added to your account.



No problem I wont preach and I encourage people not to respond and let this thread drop off.

Its to hot to handle for anyone here

I encourage you to go back to your very normal groups and get involved in the dull, mediocre things of life.

thank you

Please dont respond. Just go away! That's what everyone wants right! No one is interested, do a 180 turn.

The door is shut! but the test continues.


Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods
oranges wrote:
Sevens
I followed your links to that site before. I suspect you wont get anywhere with "hardcore"
athiests unless you actually present some results from an expedition. Saying to people on that forum who want things presented in a purely scientific way that you suspect x, y, or z exists at that site wont convince them.



No problem in that we have to get some evidence but we do have the evidence of 1stEden regarding the Natural wall and the Built up
Acropolis. That specific thing is written about in the Urantia Book and more.

But anyway what I was attempting to demonstrate was the levels of this journey and the information that underpins it and physical things that can be seen. By my proving what is written, to me would verify the information of which many people would see logically, if the evidence is presented. We can and have presented the information of 1stEden but all quarters just run away in denial and this across the board. The Atheist is simply a spiritual coward that runs to the hills. He views are just nothing, chaff in the winds. I mean all his Baalim views will one day be totally destroyed in the day of destruction of untruth.

Elijah's 2nd Test as opened on the Atheist site will
consummate the destruction of Baalim or Molech alike who influence much of this world through the lower levels of mans thoughts and desires. The children of Baalim in denial of God will go down to their utter destruction and that is written. That will be the result of Elijahs current 2nd Test in proving that God exists and is personal.

Its there and its written about and we have only the 1st Glimpses of a string of major discoveries.

Ive been listening to this video, I have picked up many clues.

http://video.yahoo.com/watch/2171117/6870358


Here is some speculation.

 

Quote:
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with [1] a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.



I was interested in this.

 

Quote:

Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,



Could this piece reflect the current eclipse on August 1st 2008 as posted in a recent post, I found the timing of its arrival considering that this journey is the only reference point I have to work on. Its arrival is at the beginning of the month of Jesus' birth.

Image
Eclipse 1stAugust 2008, Jesus Birthdate August 21st 7BC. We are in the 1st Year of the true Millennium referenced from the true Birthdate of Jesus. To me the eclipse signals the 1st months of the first year of Jesus Millennium.

and just note this of Nostradamus
 

Quote:
74
The year of the great seventh number accomplished, (Sevenfold day)
It will appear at the time of the games of slaughter: (Olympic games)
Not far from the great millennial age, (2008 or 2001 from Jesus' Birthdate Aug 7BC)
When the buried will go out from their tombs. Great change, dispensational change. Age of the Messiahs.

 

and match the above with the recent quatrain I posted a few posts ago and on another forum before I even saw this latest eclipse. I posted this quatrain but never realized that an eclipse was in the approach. Only realizing that 1 day after the event.

34
When the eclipse of the Sun will then be,
The monster will be seen in full day:
Quite otherwise will one interpret it,
High price unguarded: none will have foreseen it.
.


and match the above with the recent quatrain I posted a few posts ago.

"and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven:"

Im not sure what how the stars fall from heaven, But in relation to the journey and the current experience of the Atheist site this maybe the result of
Elijah's 2nd Test of proving that God exists. The shaking of the powers of Heaven maybe the ultimate confirmation where the which would mean adjudication or Judgment day. The great confirmation would be Jesus, the Son of Man coming down in glory.

We could absolutely very close and
actually
at the steps of Judgement day according to my current experience and what I read and experience through the scriptures. The Atheist rush to their destruction.

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:16 pm
I welcome the 1stmonth of the 1st year of the Millennium of Jesus in accordance to Jesus' Birth Date August 21st7BC (UB) Inaugurated by an eclipse!

Praise Jesus and the Father. I thank the Most High and all the angels for there guidance in this journey.

Praise the Lord!

Sevens

Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:16 pm Red Alert

 

As a physical representative of the Sevenfold mission I welcome and herald in the 1stmonth (1st August) of the 1st year of the Millennium of Jesus in accordance to Jesus' Birth Date August 21st7BC (UB) Inaugurated by an eclipse!

Praise Jesus and the Father. I thank the Most High and all the angels for there guidance in this journey.

Praise the Lord!

In accordance to what I read into things I would be on high alert from now until October the 3rd especially before and during the Olympic games. Now, I have done this before and Judgment never came but I did discover an ancient city which is part of puzzle of Judgment. Be on alert especially before and during the Olympic games.

It could be the time and you know it will come from the experience of one person, the messenger, Judgment unto truth! That is the construct of this whole journey!

Just be on Red Alert, all systems go! be on watch and on the look out, when the Lord comes it will be sudden, very sudden and everyone will absolutely caught of guard. It is obvious that no one has interest in the ancient places of ancient paths unknown to man, it has been demonstrated over the last 4 years so now the process of judgment begins.

Now, I and we can have rest which will be the Seventh Day when the mystery is called in by the Seventh angels. Yea!

The actual dates to be on alert for following the Sevens pattern for this 1st Month of the 1styear of the Jesus Millennium are.
 

Quote:
7th August
14th August
28th August


and the 21st August Jesus Birthdate.

However it could be a period that extends to October 3rd.

I dont know dates or times just going by faith in my personal experience.

Also this will be my last time I calculating dates. I wont go through this exercise again.

Note: The door is shut on the Atheist forum, they have sufficient information. The Sun will not give of its light there any longer and the moon is darkened physically and spiritually for there mockery.

Sevens

 


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:35 pm

born-again-atheist wrote:Oh, I'm responding because I don't get much in the way of traditional sit-com comedy, and yet here it is, contained in the posts of one obscure poster.



So move on Buddy, the door is closed Shut! OK, everyone has taken position!

The end draws near!

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:07 am

You guys are amazing

You just have to kick the boots in while there is opporutnity.

Hutsin you have some problems to deal with within yourself.

You will not win in that attitude! on any count.

So this is the attitude of the Atheist?? the truth of the Atheist that brings him down to this level.

Its an interesting experience to view this. Not to mention many other people viewing this.

You guys should look at yourself from a third party point of view.

I conceded that I wont post anymore and still you guys persist.

Whats wrong with you all.

I said, if we dont post in accordance to Posse suggestions this post will fall away.

Dont you want that? Then why respond with further personal attack and insult.

Ive said all that I have to say, the horse has already bolted regarding the preaching. Warnings are a little bit late now. Anyway I will not post up anymore information because you have been informed.

If all you guys can refrain from responding than all will be quite and this thread can lay to rest peacefully.

Ok!

Have a peaceful day! ahahahahahahaha

Sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:20 am

ahahahah

Im trying to just wonder away from this but you guys keep on responding and Im not going to go away will there are insults coming my way.

Im quite happy to stop if you stop in the rampage of personal attack and insult.

If you wont to keep the door open that's up to you but this door of knowledge has shut!

So lets make a deal, if you stop persisting in insult I will stop replying then the thread will drift away.

sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:34 am

james1v wrote:
sevens wrote:Well least we can leave on peaceful terms

You want this thread stopped dont you, terms, If you stop with the insults I will stop replying is that a problem.

Seems like pretty easy terms to me since I started the thread, let me just wind down the thread.

You and everybody reject this information
thats
OK, well wind down the thread.

Sevens



Lets wind it down. :yawn:



No problem man, lets do it.

I will stop now, if all else stops OK! everyone has made there point now, we all know the position, nothing further will come from myself.

Lets make this the stopping point! Ok! The thread will drift of the board.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:44 am

la bella fortuna wrote:Euthanize?



I couldn't help myself! I thought that statement was ironic, that an Atheist does thinks that way.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:05 am

spirokeat wrote:
sevens wrote:
spirokeat wrote:
sevens wrote:So this is the attitude of the Atheist?? the truth of the Atheist that brings him down to this level.
 



:dunno:

I
kinda liked ya old bean and I'm an atheist.



Ahh no worries, nothing like a bit of debate and attack

ahahahaha

you gotta have a laugh in all this, dont you! from any perspective it is a laugh!

Have a good day
spirokeat, good on ya
mate! thanks for being reasonable and kind.

Sevens




Aside of the debate and attack. I've read this thread from the start and faded off from middle. Aside of any perspective. . .

My point was. This is
not the attitude of atheists because I'm one and I liked you hence not all atheists conform the the attitude your ascribing to them.

But anyway. I don't want to see you
stpo posting here (I don't mean just this thread) because I've enjoyed your enthusiasm for your story and maybe you can get something from being here.

But beside all that who else will go '
ahahahahahahaha
' in 90% of their posts if not you. ;) Don't leave bro.



Right on
spirokeat

The attitude that you display has all the hallmarks of very a successful person regardless of what his belief is because you are willing to crack the door open and willing to have a look. At least to have a look into the matter with an open mind. Now off course you dont have to believe this in the final analysis, that's is up to you in your personal investigations.

No problem but at least we can share in friendliness and in kindness and we dont have to oppose each other with attack and that business.

We can be friends in all this, even in light of varying ideas.

I feel really encouraged to be here by your attitude and very willing to explore this with you, together as friends in exploration and discovery of new frontiers where no man has been before and where man is not willing to go.

Your attitude will bring you to the heights of utter success as a personality. There is definitely a big spot for you in this journey and doesn't matter whether you are an atheist or not, its just a quest of the truth.

All the best and great blessings to you in everything that occurs in your life.

Your a good bloke!

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:13 am

Huston wrote:
sevens wrote:Im quite happy to stop if you stop in the rampage of personal attack and insult.



Why don't you remove that beam from your eye. Yes, I know, an atheist using a Jesus line.



Hey Huston

Come on man! I promise I will be more respectful to you and will try and avoid conflict with you.

Sevens
 


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:59 am

DiFontane wrote:
sevens wrote:We could be absolutely close and actually at the steps of Judgement day according to my current experience and what I read and experience through the scriptures. The Atheist rush to their destruction.

Sevens


I was hoping for more precise timeline, two weeks, months and so on. Absolutely close can be expanded through a long time.
 

sevens wrote:No has to believe the above its only specualtion based on my experience.

So no
ne
has to attack me OK, lets just test the timeline and the words.

Does that sounds reasonable.

Sevens


I asked for you opinion, I have no intention to attack your speculation.
You are right of
couse with the good test. This is why I'm trying to pin you down on a date.

Did you get any feedback on the other boards you mentioned posting some time ago?



No worries
DiFontaine

Well a there is a few dates and a timeline period to test out my words and thoughts.

The only thing we can do is see what occurs.


Concerning the other boards, I have some friends there but in the main they all read but dont respond that much but they all read the information, they are also viewing and thinking about things. This is a completely different thing for the general religionist or for religion at large who have never seen these paths before from the beginning.

All the religionists know what's happening here. With my Islamic thread I dont bother too much they are over the top and will not accept anything in there bias and prejudice. Islam might find it hard to survive this according to their witness of very poor interpretations that lead to death and destruction. They have been informed as well!

Sevens

 


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:19 am

Di Fontaine

I gave you actual dates to look out for just read the above, maybe you didn't see it. Just keep aware of them that's all including the timeline.

I posted the info last night late and there has been no response except people viewing according to the thread hits.

This will test out whether I am or right or wrong regarding the Day.

No problem, thanks for the post.

Oh well it all has to be tested and Im quite willing for that regardless of the outcome. That should bring a good finality to this thread right or wrong.  Even though we cant stop it ahahahahahahaha.

Just note: no one will know the specific date except signs will be given that will show the way in faith to the day. The signs will come from the prophets and seers of old who foresaw the event, each in part. Only to make a whole at the end.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:43 am

DiFontane wrote:
sevens wrote:Di Fontaine

I gave you actual dates to look out for just read the above, maybe you didn't see it. Just keep aware of them that's all including the timeline.


There is a simple reason why I didn't see it. Simply because you added those dates with edit after I posted.
Honestly, your editing (not in an dishonest way, your just adding something) of your posts after somebody
resonded to them is irritating at best.
 

sevens wrote:I posted the info last night late and there has been no response except people viewing according to the thread hits.

This will test out whether I am or right or wrong regarding the Day.

No problem, thanks for the post.

Oh well it all has to be tested and Im quite willing for that regardless of the outcome. That should bring a good finality to this thread right or wrong.

Sevens



I conclude, whoever laughs on October 4th is right then.



Sorry for the additional posts on posts but Im just adding to the post as I get these thoughts from within in the track. Sorry about that! Its on the run.

 

I conclude, whoever laughs on October 4th is right then



Well as far as Judgment Day is concerned that would be right. But be aware of the dates I submitted.


No worries at all.

Thanks for the post.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:06 pm

http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q= ... 24&ver=kjv

 

I noticed this last night

Im not preaching here, but further down in this chapter I found this fragment.

 
So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.



The above tells me that everything will be revealed even to the doors of the day of judgment. So it will come down to the wire, to the doors where it will be very sudden, in a twinkling of an eye.

Not preaching here, I just found this excerpt which is part of this test, coming down to the doors of judgment. Just a little extra information that I believe describes this actual experience and could help in how this is going to pass and we are talking about words that may affect destiny and is related to Jesus' and the prophets words coming from the books in the track to the ancient places.

Further down the track in the same chapter I found this.

 

44Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. 45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. 48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; 49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; 50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51 And shall cut [2] him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.



Again, Im not preaching and dont mean to, its just research, truth unto Judgment day that I forecast. Its part of the research in what to expect in this planetary scenario.

and this little part

 

13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come .
and also note there is another witness to the most high fond in the Great Pyramid in the Queens burial shaft. This symbols of this plug is the witness of this truth in symbols of this journey connected to design symbolism of the ancient cities in design

Image

and thoughts
 
"In that day there shall be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the Land of Egypt, and a monument at the border thereof to the Lord, and it shall be for a sign, and for a witness unto the Lord of Hosts in the Land of Egypt" (Isaiah 19:19-20).


This matches this whole journey and is a witness of the paths not ever known to man on all levels related to destiny spread through the Internet to all nations and is a witness and an end is speculated and triangulated from the prophets and seers of the past.

I thought this video was quite interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2RkgZag ... re=related

This is the time when all the relevant prophecies will start to form a oneness in the reality as foreseen.

Sevens


Postby sevens on Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:16 pm

dkv

Is there an image to examine the seal, I find that intriguing.

I found the image

Image
The bulla of King Zedekiah's minister.

Sevens

Re: Archeologists find Old Testament seal in Israel

Postby sevens on Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:29 pm

dkv wrote:It proves that Biblical stories are not fantasies.. they are true.
I dont think it is an old story... 2 seals have been found so far.




I agree Im finding that myself to.

Sevens


http://wwwrses.anu.edu.au/geodynamics/AnnRep/95/AR-Geod95.html

Late Pleistocene and Holocene sea-level change

K. Lambeck, P. Johnston, C. Smither, K. Fleming and Y. Yokoyama

Sea-level change since the time of the Last Glacial Maximum is dominated by the increase in ocean volume due to the melting of the last Late Pleistocene ice sheets. The actual change observed around the world exhibits considerable spatial variability because of the response of the crust and mantle to the unloading of the glaciated regions and the loading of the sea floor by the new melt-water. Observations of this variability provide important constraints on the mantle rheology, on the history of the ice sheets and on the ice-ocean balance, on the evolution of shorelines and coastal environments, and on estimates of vertical tectonic rates. The group's research is directed at all of these aspects with particular emphasis this year having been placed on a reconstruction of the eustatic sea-level function for the past 20,000 years and on palaeogeographic reconstructions of some of the shallow sea-floor areas that are of interest to pre-historians. Areas for the latter studies have included the Aegean Sea in the eastern Mediterranean, the Persian Gulf, the Irish and Celtic Seas, the North Sea and the French Atlantic margin, and the shallow water regions around Australia. The Persian Gulf results are of interest for understanding the evolution of the Gulf morphology and sedimentary record, including the evolution of the Euphrates Delta. The results also provide a framework for discussing human movements and settlement in Late Palaeolithic and Neolithic times. The Mediterranean results are relevant for estimating the rates of vertical movements from geological indicators that express displacements relative to sea level which, in this case, is itself variable. And, as for the Persian Gulf, the geographic reconstructions also provide new insights into the interpretation of the environmental and human record from Palaeolithic times onwards. Results from the Irish Sea and North Sea are relevant for estimating whether spatial variation in mantle rheology is important across northwestern Europe and for constraining ice volumes at the time of the Last Glacial Maximum. The Australian records are of interest for offshore sedimentological and palaeoenvironmental studies. Results from two of the regional studies are summarised briefly below.

The Persian Gulf. Results for the Persian Gulf are illustrated in Figure 3. From the peak of the glaciation until about 14,000 years BP the Gulf was free from marine influence out to the edge of the Biaban Shelf but the potential existed for extensive shallow lakes and swamps on the Gulf floor along the ancient bed of the Euphrates-Tigris river system throughout Late Glacial time. By about 12,500 years ago the marine incursion into the Central Basin had started and the western Basin flooded about 1000 years later. Much of the southern and northern sides of the Gulf remained dry until about 9000 years BP. The present shorelines was reached shortly before 6000 years ago and exceeded as relative sea-level rose 1-2 m above its present level primarily in response to the hydro-isostatic adjustment of the Earth, inundating the very low areas of lower Mesopotamia.

Figure 3: Reconstruction of the palaeoshorelines and palaeobathymetry for the Persian Gulf at 12,000 years ago. The lower part of the Gulf is first flooded at about 13,000 years BP but large freshwater lakes could have developed in several locations within the valley floor. Large shallow depressions also occur on the southern margin of the present Gulf.

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The region at the northern end of the present Gulf and at the junction of the Euphrates and Tigris Rivers was settled by the early Sumerians during the fourth millennium BC but the origin of this civilisation has raised many questions. Whatever directions the search for answers may take, a significant element in the puzzle must be the evolution of the physical environment of the Gulf itself. For example, during Palaeolithic (before about 8000 years BC) and Mesolithic and Neolithic (from 8000 to about 5000 years BC) times much of the Gulf floor would have been exposed (Figure 3) and the broad river valley with lakes and marshes in the flatter regions, would have formed a natural route for people moving westwards from east of Iran. Is this the route travelled by the ancestors of the Sumerians? Another example is that excavations at Ur and elsewhere have led to evidence of a flooding event at about 4000-3000 BC and it is tempting to associate the Sumerian `Flood' legend with the peak of the Holocene transgression during the flooding of the low-lying delta region when sea levels rose perhaps a few meters above present between about 6000 and 3000 years BP.


 

(1) The Mediterranean and Black Sea Basins

Evidence of salt beds and shallow lagoon fossils found in core samples (Deep Sea Drilling Project [DSDP] by the Glomar Challenger in 1970) show that pockets of the Mediterranean had evaporated during the last glacial period. The Straights of Gibraltar formed a narrow escarpment which blocked water from the Atlantic from entering the Mediterranean basin.

"The researchers [William Ryan and Walter Pitman - both geology professors at Columbia University] were reluctantly, but excitedly, driven to the conclusion that the Mediterranean Sea had dried up and refilled a dozen times in a million years. Since the Mediterranean basin is as much as 16,000 feet deep, the dry sea floor must have been an incredible hot desert for long periods of time. The lowest place on earth nowadays is the Dead Sea which is only 1300 feet below sea level Further studies confirmed that deep gorges in solid rock (now filled with ocean sediments and then river muds) lay under the Nile River and the Rhone River, suggesting that these rivers were once great torrents steeply dropping water into the empty Mediterranean basin. (However, other filled in gorges are also found around the world and are not unique to the Mediterranean). Best of all, the researchers imagined a prehistoric waterfall at the Straits of Gibraltar bringing in Atlantic ocean water with the volume of a hundred Victoria Falls or a thousand Niagaras at intervals lasting a hundred years or more."
     - Lambert Dolphin , "The Great Mediterranean Desert"


http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Jeremiah+33&ver=kjv

The Restoration of Prosperity to Jerusalem

33Moreover the word of the Lord came unto Jeremiah the second time, while he was yet shut up in the court of the prison, saying, 2 Thus saith the Lord the maker thereof, the Lord that formed it, to establish it; the Lord is his name; 3 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not. 4 For thus saith the Lord, the God of Israel, concerning the houses of this city, and concerning the houses of the kings of Judah, which are thrown down by the mounts, and by the sword; 5 They come to fight with the Chaldeans, but it is to fill them with the dead bodies of men, whom I have slain in mine anger and in my fury, and for all whose wickedness I have hid my face from this city. 6 Behold, I will bring it health and cure, and I will cure them, and will reveal unto them the abundance of peace and truth. 7 And I will cause the captivity of Judah and the captivity of Israel to return, and will build them, as at the first. 8 And I will cleanse them from all their iniquity, whereby they have sinned against me; and I will pardon all their iniquities, whereby they have sinned, and whereby they have transgressed against me. 9 And it shall be to me a name of joy, a praise and an honour before all the nations of the earth, which shall hear all the good that I do unto them: and they shall fear and tremble for all the goodness and for all the prosperity that I procure unto it.

10 Thus saith the Lord; Again there shall be heard in this place, which ye say shall be desolate without man and without beast, even in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem, that are desolate, without man, and without inhabitant, and without beast, 11 The voice of joy, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride, the voice of them that shall say, Praise the Lord of hosts: for the Lord is good; for his mercy endureth for ever: and of them that shall bring the sacrifice of praise into the house of the Lord. For I will cause to return the captivity of the land, as at the first, saith the Lord. 12 Thus saith the Lord of hosts; Again in this place, which is desolate without man and without beast, and in all the cities thereof, shall be an habitation of shepherds causing their flocks to lie down. 13 In the cities of the mountains, in the cities of the vale, and in the cities of the south, and in the land of Benjamin, and in the places about Jerusalem, and in the cities of Judah, shall the flocks pass again under the hands of him that telleth them, saith the Lord. 14 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will perform that good thing which I have promised unto the house of Israel and to the house of Judah. 15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land. 16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The Lord our righteousness.


http://www.academicjournals.org/ajb/PDF/pdf2008/17Jun/Ghorashi%20et%20al.pdf

The entrance to the Persian Gulf at the

strait of Hormoz is only about 50 km wide, restricting

circulation of water to the Gulf from the Oman Sea.

During the last glacial period at about 17,000 years ago

sea level lowering reduced water in the Gulf to a

minimum and it was largely a dry basin with only a small

area of sea water extending in from the Oman Sea (Coles,

2003). So, all coral settlement and growth in the Gulf has

occurred since the beginning of the present interglacial

period about 15,000 years ago. The Persian Gulf is one

of the few areas in the world where corals occur in a re


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deluge_(prehistoric)#Doggerland_and_a_Channel_flood

Doggerland and a Channel flood

This is type 1. In 1998, the archaeologist B.J. Coles identified as "Doggerland" the now-drowned habitable and huntable lands in the coastal plain that was formed in the North Sea when sea level dropped. Doggerland has not caught the popular imagination, but the terrain was available for settlement. Its gentle swells remain as the Dogger Banks. Paleolithic reindeer hunters roamed the land; some traces of their encampments have been identified, but the timing of the submergence has not been fixed.[11] The region was watered by the glacial River Rhine, into which flowed the River Thames as a tributary; the combined river flowed into the North Sea, permitting access to Britain by large mammals and humans.

During an earlier glacial maximum, the combined rivers had been blocked to the north by an ice dam; they filled a vast lake with freshwater glacial melt on the bed of what is now the North Sea. A gently upfolding chalk ridge linking the Weald of Kent and Artois, perhaps some thirty meters higher than the current sea level, contained the glacial lake at the Strait of Dover. At a certain time, and apparently more than once, the barrier failed[12] or was overtopped, loosing a catastrophic flood that permanently separated Britain from the continent of Europe; a sonar study of the sea bed of the English Channel published in Nature, July 2007,[13] revealed the discovery of unmistakable marks of a megaflood on the English Channel seabed: deeply-eroded channels and braided features have left the remnants of streamlined islands among deeply gouged channels. where the collapse occurred.[14]


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:35 pm
I wonder if the following relates to the same witness and fulfills 2 scriptures and is part of the discoveries in the journey to the first and ancient places?


 
Quote:
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come .



and also note there is another witness to the most high fond in the Great Pyramid in the Queens burial shaft. This symbols of this plug is the witness of this truth in symbols of this journey connected to design symbolism of the ancient cities in design

Image

and thoughts
 

Quote:
"In that day there shall be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the Land of Egypt, and a monument at the border thereof to the Lord, and it shall be for a sign, and for a witness unto the Lord of Hosts in the Land of Egypt" (Isaiah 19:19-20).

 

Isaiah 19:20   (Read all of Isaiah 19)

And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.

 

Isaiah 43:9   (Read all of Isaiah 43)

Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the people be assembled: who among them can declare this, and shew us former things? let them bring forth their witnesses, that they may be justified: or let them hear, and say, It is truth.

Word search sign

Exodus 31:13   (Read all of Exodus 31)

Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the Lord that doth sanctify you.

Exodus 31:17   (Read all of Exodus 31)

It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

Deuteronomy 13:1   (Read all of Deuteronomy 13)

If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,

Isaiah 38:7   (Read all of Isaiah 38)

And this shall be a sign unto thee from the Lord, that the Lord will do this thing that he hath spoken;

Isaiah 55:13   (Read all of Isaiah 55)

Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree: and it shall be to the Lord for a name, for an everlasting sign that shall not be cut off.

Ezekiel 14:8   (Read all of Ezekiel 14)

And I will set my face against that man, and will make him a sign and a proverb, and I will cut him off from the midst of my people; and ye shall know that I am the Lord.

Ezekiel 24:27   (Read all of Ezekiel 24)

In that day shall thy mouth be opened to him which is escaped, and thou shalt speak, and be no more dumb: and thou shalt be a sign unto them; and they shall know that I am the Lord.

 

 


Sevens


At the moment of the align the knowledge of the trees in the Garden of Eden will be revealed.

 

Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods
http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl= ... amus&hl=en

Ive been watching this video of the Lost Books of Nostradamus.

In the video there is an image shown of a person holding a book with a tree on one page and writing on the other page. In the written page there is the word in English...One male.

They also mention that Nostradamus predicted that the knowledge of the Trees in the Garden of Eden will be revealed.

To me that prediction confirms this journey to the ancient places which encompasses Eden and its truth and revealing.

Its a match and the book is a record about Eden and Dalamatia City, in other words the Books is about the ancient places of paths not known written in a journal of the journey and its truth and discovery.

 



Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:17 am

But still how would Nostradamus know about the trees of Eden being revealed at the time and its associated with a book or document, like we have in the thread. Mind you, this quatrain was not known about in my journey until very recently and well after the discoveries of the cities, particularly 1stEden

At the moment of the great alignment with the center of the Universe/Galaxy, the knowledge of the Trees in the Garden of Eden will be revealed.

He must of been seeing this journey and the tree is the tree of life and that's the track we are following, the path of the tree of life throughout the earlier Epochs that leads us to cities. The truth from ancient times.

I seriously see a connection of what is written and we have before us.

Sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:48 am

Anyway Gildargi

As I was saying about Victor the younger in the land of Brittany. This reference, the Younger does have a direct relationship in surname of the author of this document who does come from the Land of Sinim and who writes about the trees of Eden and is the discover of the other ancient cities.

The Younger or especially the Young is related to the Javan who are the Greeks but the Greeks originally came from a place in Iran, the headquarters of Van is one of the locations I discovered where the 3 coplanar symbols can be seen which connects to all the other locations, 1stEden and Dalamatia City as these cities have the same 3 co planar symbols.

Complete direct match.

In the video did you notice the 3 stars or 3 co planar symbols?

http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl= ... amus&hl=en

Also notice this one male brings in great change like what is proposed by Nostradamus and in this thread.

I find its a complete match and this journey by its essence is a complete confirmation in the end time reality as foreseen.


Sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:05 am

But actualy there was a book released before the expedition to Eden, the Book Discovery of Atantis by Robert Sarmast



The Book Discovery of Atlantis was published in 2003 and the 1stExpedition was 2004.

I read the UB 15 years ago on a boat and was then inspired to find 1Eden myself then. I brought maps of the location from those very early times and went out to gather information. Over time, through the Net I saw a video by Robert Sarmast, Over time Robert and I got to know each other and we were writing to each other regularly with encouragement and as a friend and as a brother, eventually the Book and the expedition manifested. I am a friend of Robert and a digga for the truth and a scribe of the unseen authors of reality incorporating all the cities of past Epochs.

This journey began so many years before and its has been a complete miracle in the manifestation that occurred during its pre book journey and this journey has still continued and it is still a pheonomena. Its all by faith alone and moving with the unseen architects of reality. Realities that extend throughout the Seven Super Universes to the Grand and Central Universe, Paradise!

Truly magnificent

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:25 am

Whatever you think but I know the reality and when the Book was released my journey began in this focalization to the ancient places which eventually became an on the run documentation. Mind you my aspect of the journey began whilst I was building information for a presentation to see if I could find reflections of the ancient places in the books of religion. The book I started with was Enoch which led me to other books, this happened for a while but then eventually I got involved in forums and hence the journey one the run, precept upon precept, thought upon thought. As written about, it occurred quite naturally. Just being led along the way in faith throughout the books, being inspired throughout the whole time everyday through realizations and discoveries.

This is how my journey evolved and its intermeshed with 1stEden and the journey to the location.  Pre and Post.

Sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:41 am

Victor the younger in the land of Brittany. This reference, the Younger does have a direct relationship in surname of the authour of this document who does come from the Land of Sinim



Another name for the Land of Sinim, Land of the South, is the Great land of Ozzie, Mighty Australia, great land of the South and the one male is surnamed, like it says in the Bible. I have surnamed thee! The Younger or the Young. He is the Victor and surnamed.

The Land of Sinim, the great Southern Land, Glory be! Eh! Nostradamus was looking at this great southern land, from where it all comes from and the man who writes about the trees of Eden.

The frontier of the South!

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:37 am

Gagliardi wrote:Eden is mythological, even acclaimed religious scholars would tell you that it's whereabouts (and mere existence) are complete speculation. Many places have trees (they could even be metaphorical for something), and many places can be considered paradise (which is relative, and could be anywhere.) One could make the same prediction right now, and see it fulfilled on a daily basis. There's nothing relevant to the prophesy -- the writer was a word-smith.




I see what your saying. However, I feel this journey is unique in the fact that is completely related to a new book, the Urantia Book claimed to be written by the Kingdom of Heaven essentially. Im testing it out at the moment. Reading and seeing.

The Books speaks about 1stEden and its location and in 2004/5 two expeditions were launched and proved certain features as described in the Urantia Book. To me that said much about the book. The book speaks about other locations which I believe I have discovered using NASA worldwind.

That has been the process and is related to a new book to enhance and widen current religion tailored for a new destiny for the planet.

That's what I read in it and I feel there is a strong connection from Nostradamus who points to this journey and which is very personal in some aspects. From what I see all prophecies are coming together ina reality climax and will manifest into a global events by the eternal realms. That's what I read into it in this focalization following the hidden tracks in all the books. This journey is even in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Its reflected all over the place and the unique about many message is that it comes from ancient times and we can see the outlines of specific cities written about which includes the connecting symbols in the design of the city. A track was layed out so it could form a journey throughout the time using symbols that would be identified in certain features of the cities and would be recognized by the final message of the last messenger. It was all layed out to form a oneness in truth and with a demonstration. I say that is the story of the trees of Eden and no one on the planet has a unique message like this journey.

Thanks for your post

Sevens


Part 3: The Prophecies of Nostradamus for Year 2008  6:33

Thursday, Holiday Trian/Trian?  6.33

Old testament matrix on Nostradamus.

Part 2: The Prophecies of Nostradamus for Year 2008

http://www.youtube.com/v/DjWumotdQ7g&hl=en&fs=1

http://www.youtube.com/v/DHEpREt_AlU&hl=en&fs=1

 

Nostradamus Prophecy 1 50 of a Hero from the U.S.


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:45 pm

Ok Guys I have something really interesting.

Remember in quite a few posts back I submitted the following.

On Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:13 pm.

I said
 
The Sabbath day is a day of rest and on the Seventh day, the Seven accomplishes the Seventh Mystery, the Seventh day, a day of rest for the elect and faithful, that infers a evacuation of the Elect for a time and who will witness the judgement process in its actual physical outwork.



The thread progressed and then just recently I noticed various quatrains and then the eclipse on August 1st 2008 and then I speculated on it in relation to this journey and the path to the Judgment day, looking for the sign.

Then further down the timeline, I made a call on some dates on the month August after noticing the eclipse, following the Seven pattern I came to the dates not knowing it falls on Thursday, the dates was just of the top of my head. I then also gave the advice to be on alert on these dates.

Here is a fragment of the post to DiFontaine Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:41 am

 

The actual dates to be on alert for following the Sevens pattern for this 1st Month of the 1styear of the Jesus Millennium are.
7th August
14th August
28th August
and the 21st August Jesus birthdate.
However, it could be a period that extends to October 3rd.
 



Then, today I watched this Video on Nostradmaus, wow, it was interesting, I hadnt seen this before.

Part 2: The Prophecies of Nostradamus for Year 2008

http://www.youtube.com/v/DjWumotdQ7g&hl=en&fs=1

In the Video there is a study on the prophecies of Nostradamus in harmony with the Bible Code.
Apparently in one of Nostradamus quatrains, the one male, so to speak will have his Holiday on Thursday, the Sevenfold Day, The Sabbath, the Day of Rest, a Holiday, the accomplishment of the 7th, A holiday that will be set for the future.

Now, regarding the dates look what day they fall on. THURSDAY!

 

7th August Thursday
14th August, Thursday
21st August, Thursday (Jesus birthdate)
28th August, Thursday



It appears that Thursday will be the Last Messengers Holiday and it falls on the Sevens and multiple in other words he has accomplished his goal in the journey. This could imply a Judgment Day in a demonstration on the Seventh or the sevens dates.

Now above dates must connect with the following Nostradamus Quatrain with previous thoughts..

 

74
The year of the great seventh number accomplished, (Sevenfold day)
It will appear at the time of the games of slaughter: (Olympic games, Thursday 7th one day before the Olympics.)
Not far from the great millennial age, (2008 or 2001 from Jesus' Birthdate Aug 21st 7BC)
When the buried will go out from their tombs. (Great change, dispensational change. Age of the Messiahs)



I thought that was a very, very interesting connection apparently this one male widens religion.

Also this Symbol in the Nostradamus study appears to be of great importance.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/NostraTrian.jpg

I believe this symbol is related and this found in the great Pyramid and it connects to planetary alignment and to the cities.

See if you can see the ancient man standing near the symbol.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/double_triangle.jpg

Another great realisation was this quatrain

Aquatic Triplicity, The 3 cities of the tree of life. http://www.dalamatiacity.com

The Aquatic Triple City, meaning the three Cities of the path of the Tree of Life where two cities are submerged, the cities from where the message comes form. Thursday is His Holiday, meaning the call made on for Judgment day fell on Thursdays as foreseen on the Month of August where dates are in multiples of Sevens. 7,14,21,18 and where the 21st is Jesus Birthdate. Also remember the eclipse fell on the 1stAugust.

 

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/nostradamusTriple.jpg



Much to think about and the first Sevens falls on the 7th in 2 days time.

And think the Olympic opening falls on the 8th. How close the first 7th to the Olympics, a day before the opening.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:45 pm

Ok Guys I have something really interesting.

Remember in quite a few posts back I submitted the following.

On Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:13 pm.

I said
 
The Sabbath day is a day of rest and on the Seventh day, the Seven accomplishes the Seventh Mystery, the Seventh day, a day of rest for the elect and faithful, that infers a evacuation of the Elect for a time and who will witness the judgement process in its actual physical outwork.



The thread progressed and then just recently I noticed various quatrains and then the eclipse on August 1st 2008 and then I speculated on it in relation to this journey and the path to the Judgment day, looking for the sign.

Then further down the timeline, I made a call on some dates on the month August after noticing the eclipse, following the Seven pattern I came to the dates not knowing it falls on Thursday, the dates was just of the top of my head. I then also gave the advice to be on alert on these dates.

Here is a fragment of the post to DiFontaine Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:41 am

 

The actual dates to be on alert for following the Sevens pattern for this 1st Month of the 1styear of the Jesus Millennium are.
7th August
14th August
28th August
and the 21st August Jesus Birthdate.
However, it could be a period that extends to October 3rd.
 



Then, today I watched this Video on Nostradamus, wow, it was interesting, I hadn't seen this before.

Part 2: The Prophecies of Nostradamus for Year 2008

http://www.youtube.com/v/DjWumotdQ7g&hl=en&fs=1

In the Video there is a study on the prophecies of Nostradamus in harmony with the Bible Code.
Apparently in one of Nostradamus quatrains, the one male, so to speak will have his Holiday on Thursday, the Sevenfold Day, The Sabbath, the Day of Rest, a Holiday, the accomplishment of the 7th, A holiday that will be set for the future.

Now, regarding the dates look what day they fall on. THURSDAY!

 

7th August Thursday
14th August, Thursday
21st August, Thursday (Jesus birthdate)
28th August, Thursday



It appears that Thursday will be the Last Messengers Holiday and it falls on the Sevens and multiple in other words he has accomplished his goal in the journey. This could imply a Judgment Day in a demonstration on the Seventh or the sevens dates.

Now above dates must connect with the following Nostradamus Quatrain with previous thoughts..

 

74
The year of the great seventh number accomplished, (Sevenfold day)
It will appear at the time of the games of slaughter: (Olympic games, Thursday 7th one day before the Olympics.)
Not far from the great millennial age, (2008 or 2001 from Jesus' Birthdate Aug 21st 7BC)
When the buried will go out from their tombs. (Great change, dispensational change. Age of the Messiahs)



I thought that was a very very interesting connection, apparently this one male widens religion.

Also this Symbol in the Nostradamus study appears to be of great importance.

Image

I believe this symbol is related and this found in the great Pyramid and it connects to planetary alignment and to the cities.

See if you can see the ancient man standing near the symbol.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/double_triangle.jpg

Another great realisation was this quatrain

Aquatic Triplicity, The 3 cities of the tree of life. http://www.dalamatiacity.com

The Aquatic Triple City, meaning the three Cities of the path of the Tree of Life where two cities are submerged, the cities from where the message comes form. Thursday is His Holiday, meaning the call made on for Judgment day fell on Thursdays as foreseen on the Month of August where dates are in multiples of Sevens. 7,14,21,18 and where the 21st is Jesus birthdate. Also remember the eclipse fell on the 1stAugust.

Image

Much to think about and the first Sevens falls on the 7th in 2 days time.

And think the Olympic opening falls on the 8th. How close is that, to the doors, the first 7th near the Olympics, a day before the opening.

Dilmun is also another submerged city with the same triangle/circle chevron and was built in memory of Dalamatia City, the first triangle city.

Really speaking these underwater cities fulfills the Aquatic Triplicity prophecy of Nostradamus and thats where the one male is Born, Victor the Younger and the 3 underwater Aquatic cities.

The Babel foundations in Dilmun city, submerged North Eastern Persian Gulf.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel/gallery/index.htm
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel/index.html

Also not on Jesus' birth year 7BC there were 3 conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn in that year, dates are given in the Urantia Book and have been confirmed by JPL. If the 5th planet Ceres existed at 12.00 noon on there is 5 pointed star alignment.

I found the video interesting but I feel I have a more accurate interpretation. The Bible code information in other videos was outstanding and I believe represents this journey and the outcome. Look at the Bible info in the focalization of this journey and you will see much.

I thought this video was interesting,

http://www.youtube.com/v/UdlWxXeXiJU&hl=en&fs=1

I think the symbol also reflects the city, the same sign. Australia is also surrounded by 3 bodies of water



Sevens


August 8 2008, 8-8-08, 888 and its Numerical Significance

http://www.youtube.com/v/3m5kbZlmQuY&hl=en&fs=1

The Narrator speaks of the Eclipse on the 1stAugust.  But we know the meaning.

 

Sevens


Quote
50
Libra will see the Hesperias govern,
Holding the monarchy of heaven and earth:
No one will see the forces of Asia perished,
Only seven hold the hierarchy in order.

Planetary Triangle alignment of Jupiter, Saturn and Mars on August 31 1994 offset by nine degrees,  Jesus Birthdate is Aug 21st 2008  (The triangle is 10 days after his Birthdate) 14 years later, 7x2, 2 Sevens, and then 14 years later marked by an eclipse Aug 1st 2008, I wonder if Enoch's 10 week test is activated.

 

Look at this from Enoch

 

3 And Enoch began to recount from the books and said:
'
I was born the seventh in the first week,
While judgement and righteousness still endured.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe2lyQSdojQ

 

Apparently Jupiter connects to Thursday or Thors day who became Jupiter in the Roman Pantheon.  July 1994 a comet hit Jupiter soon after the Triune.

 


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:33 am

james1v wrote:
sevens wrote:If am a weak Chrsitian I say let God be the Judge.

You have many questions just ask God.

Man blames God for many things but maybe man should just take responsibility for his woeful actions upon his fellow brother through mans own BS using Gods words to justify his crappy actions.

Remember there is a last rebel out there who creates division and confusion and its a free world. Many things man and the rebel does is through what is within himself, like in the spiritual world, its is free choice, thats why the rebel is aloud to roam for a season and everything has to run to its final conclusion and thats why people get upset but thiings have to run its course. But I think that season is about to end.

Why God this and God that, woe is me!, that just the way its is, even though you mention these things blaming God but maybe Man in his crap and limitation is the one at fault in his misconception.

How about man blame hiomself for his BS over the years. Just look at his witness, its crappy.

Sevens



Man is just an animal like any other, we just happened to evolve a altruistic streak (some other animals also have this trait ). If your spiteful god tried to confuse us by unleashing the devil...it just goes to show he isnt worthy of worship, just contempt as a sociopathic prat who likes tormenting people. :hum:
But then he cant be sociopathic because to be so....you have to exist!



I can understand how you feel, looking from a 3rd party you would think that. I dont blame you but there is more to the story, try reading the Urantia Book and you will read a more realistic understanding.

Man is sentient as he has the power of self reflection and self consciousness.

Im not unleashing any Devil, simply speaking like with any family there is a dispute in the eternal realms between Father and Son and that has been going on for a while. This dispute has caused many problems but there are about to be resolved in suddenness.

You will see the cause of the problems in due time.

Anyway the Devil or the last rebel is finished and defeated already and he has no power in truth only what people give him.

Dont worry about the guy just get on to the truth of the matter. You know like what is the truth of everything and how can we establish that in truth and not the BS.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:17 am

I believe in Jesus undoubtedly, but I am not a Christian in the Christian Mold underlined by the Doctrine and Dogma going to Church. However, Christianity did lay the foundation and for that I am grateful, grateful for the goodness but not the actions I see in Christianity these days and the use of fear to rope people in. Not enlightenment but using fear.

To find these places of ancient times and the truth of everything I never had to go to a church. I just had the books and with Seraphim's beside me to guide me through all of them including many books outside of Christianity in other cultures and religions regarding there myths and truths.

The Urantia Book including my personal experience with the book has delivered me from the bondage of emotional blackmail that the Christians espouse everyday.



Sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:59 am

If am a weak Christian I say let God be the Judge.

You have many questions just ask God.

Man blames God for many things but maybe man should just take responsibility for his woeful actions upon his fellow brother through mans own BS using Gods words to justify his crappy actions.

Remember there is a last rebel out there who creates division and confusion and its a free world. Many things man and the rebel does is through what is within himself, like in the spiritual world, its is free choice, that's why the rebel is aloud to roam for a season and everything has to run to its final conclusion and that's why people get upset but things have to run its course. But I think that season is about to end.

Why God this and God that, woe is me!, that just the way its is, even though you mention these things blaming God but maybe Man in his crap and limitation is the one at fault in his misconception.

How about man blame himself for his BS over the years. Just look at his witness in going way over the top with religion enforcing it on man through means emotional blackmail throughout the whole time using fear as weapon like \many Christians do with this false Hell notion. its crappy.

10% Love in one hand and 90% underlying fear in the other used as a weapon not to mention the enforced 10% tithe system which is an abomination.

The Christians and its leaders have so much to learn and have to get their act together because currently they are slack to the word of God in truth and action behind closed doors.

Sevens

Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods
No problem Prophet Daniel

We are all trying and testing everything and considering much but one thing know, the truth will come out and be in the demonstration.

But the two you mentioned I dont know about them as Im focalizing on other things.

I say lets continue in our own focalization and see where the path or track leads us.

With Nostradamus, his truth has to be tested like everyone else in this time but I believe he had something going on.

I dont underestimate Nostradamus, there appears to be to many connections that actually describes my journey. Funny that the Younger does have direct relation to my surname but my surname is in another language but means the same.

all the best in your research.

Sevens

Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods
prophet daniel wrote:
May Yahweh be with you Sevens.
Be very careful. Very very dangerous times today.

Daniel



No problem brother and thanks for your advise. I agree we live in absolutely dangerous times but I think we are at the doors of Judgment.

Not only Daniel and myself but I feel everyone has to be prepared now.

I think this is beyond doctrine and which church now as action is about to appear.

We are really getting to the truth of the matter and testing it out.

I think we are close but those with faith even halfhearted will be safe, no doubt about that because Jesus is our friend and he will save us. He is our brother and friend and Saviour.

Thank you Jesus, praise the lord.

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods
sissco wrote:
Sevens and Daniel

Do you two think you've both found the same person you both THINK is the future A.C?

 

Sissco
I dont think so, Prophet Daniel is working on his focalization which is OK and has to be explored. Everyone has to find the truth for themselves and has to test it out for themselves to see for themselves. Whether a researcher is right or wrong will become apparent in the world of choice and decision we live in.

Regarding my research, with regards to Nostradamus I feel there are to many aspects that I find that reflect tis journey.

In the Video I feel there interpretations are a little off but at the same time there are some truth they touch on which does stimulate me.

They say that when this one male or person comes and he will change religion even a new religion. They even imply he could be the AC. The way I see things the last guy will change religion through demonstration of the words and what is established in truth, utter truth.

For one guy to change things, people may view him as a AC because great change will occur that they dont understand so in ignorance they may cry AC.

I have to state now that I am not the AC just a servant of the Lord and I believe in Jesus wholeheartedly and he is my friend.

The truth of any prophet is to see whether his information comes to pass and that's why I am testing my journey in the living experience and in the manifestation of being led and finding things through the books of religion, like the Bible.

Also understand that Revelation has been abridged an distorted and I think much of that happened in the late 14 hundreds. I believe, that much of revelation will not happen because of infiltration and ultimately confusion. I personally think, things will be realized and then judgment will happen, no mucking around.

The last messenger as he moves forward in his journey will not realize who he is but will find many parallels reflecting his life as he continues to find things about his journey and walk.

He wont realize himself until the very end or at the doors, also the last messenger is not interested in the public front guy as many would desire, the last guy is shy and bashful, believe it or not and much prefers to be in the background. If anything when the last messenger completes his task he hill go into obscurity. But then the Father may have different ideas.

Anyway praise the Lord in all of this.

Also the AC is one who destroys fellow man. One who has Jesus in his heart cannot destroy his fellow man and will not.

All the best Sissco and great blessings to you and thanks for joining in.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:04 am

Gagliardi wrote:
sevens wrote:
Gagliardi wrote:I see what your saying. However, I feel this journey is unique in the fact that is completely related to a new book, the Urantia Book claimed to be written by the Kingdom of Heaven essentially. Im testing it out at the moment. Reading and seeing.
 



Just because the urantia book is of an unknown author does not mean that it is the product of some celestial entity. From what I know of it, the book is a collection of papers believed to be written between the 1920's and 1960's in Chicago (at least that's where they were found.) It's an interesting read, but given it's incorporation of only contemporary theology (specifically Christianity) It seems rather biased to me.

It's my thought that it was authored by a university professor in the Chicago area, given the actual papers' nearly flawless English grammar. Google "philosophy; theology professors - Chicago 1920-1960"



The Urantia Book is an excellent book and came through in 1932 in a 4 year period and was published in 1955.

It claims itself of Universal authorship and uses all it can from the bank of mans knowledge and when that is exhausted the authors use there own knowledge as a last resort.

The book is being tested at the moment, a good test would be to verify all the other places as we have 1stEden under our belt with confirmation of what was written in the beforehand, particularly about the Wall and the built up mound, the Acropolis Hill and we see the anomalies to suit and have confirmed the natural wall.

The book was not written by the mind of university professor as he would put his own name in the authorship, wouldn't he, just human nature isn't it. His pride would want his name on the book as an author. If it was written by a professor you would see his name on the book, undoubtedly!

Personally, I think this the perfect book for the Atheist in trying to understand religion and what its all about in real truth, not the BS. For the Atheist to understand religion and the religious mind, the Urantia Book would put the Atheist in a far better position of knowledge and truth that can be demonstrated.


Thanks for you post Gagliardi

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:17 am

james1v wrote:The devil is not "finished", he never existed, he was just an invention of some centuries old guy who made him up to explain why his crops failed. :roll: Come back to this century! we know more, we are more civilised, we are (or some of us) not as superstitious or willing to blame everything and anyone for our or natures failings. :coffee:
Take responibility and understand the earth does not owe you anything. :roll:



Hell doesn't exist, man made but personality extinction does exist.

Satan is a fact but he is interned ready for adjudication.

The last remaining rebel on the planet is about to meet his demise including his followers.

That the best panorama I can give.

The oncoming demonstration will be the adjudication.

Lets see what happens eh! Lets see if all my words are of truth, Im willing for the test of my words either way in the demonstration.

 

What is it really all about and how can we demonstrate that in truth using science?

 
Come back to this century! we know more, we are more civilised,



Are we really civilized? Look around at the crap going on in civilisation and all the people that are completely screwed over, not to mention many inhabitants of many countries. For a civilized world we have done a really crappy job and man can blame himself for all his crap and who can take full responsibility for his error where he blames God, that would be right of man, passing the buck. Essentially man is a complete selfish little Asshole who knows shit.

We are even loosing the planet because of the complete selfishness of man. Man is a complete disaster case, if there wasn't intervention he would extinct himself and he is on that road currently. Even the responses here is an example of the level of mans so called thinking civilisation.

Man is civilized, my ass. He is only civilized if there is something in it for himself and that's the extent of his so called civilisation. That's the effect of cross materialism and ownership and all the crap that comes from that.

Man is controlled by fear and debt, that's the snare of the current system to control your ass for their crappy purposes which is not consistent to the truth of everything in real truth.
 

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:50 am

Not worth commenting on, you weren't there, Just a flyway opinion. Big deal!
There evidence is there and another expedition has to be done. Unfortunately in the last expedition the budget was to small.

We have data which has been posted, there are further anomalies that have to be investigated.

You made your decision and yet the Eden case is not finished, isn't that just so typical of man.

Closed mind and who hasn't been out there.

Read all the information about 1stEden and then compare the Ifermer images. We know it was a natural hill but man enhanced as he does and we can see those anomalies to, such like the 3 co planar circles on the top of the Hill which connect with the other cities.


Sevens

Post Re: State senator sues God Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:27 am
What a laugh

ahahahahahahahahahahahahaah

I think that is so funny. I wonder if it entail proving God. I would like to give assistance to the the God side.


ahahahahah thats a funny article.

Sevens

Post Re: State senator sues God
prophet daniel wrote:
Isn't it funny these atheists?
They get so angry at what they say does not exist.

So this man is suing a God he says does not exist. Huh?

Poor blind atheist. been there. done that. My eyes were opened Praise Yah!



Tell me about Brother Prophet Daniel ahahahahah

Dont they get so upset with the God/Jesus Guys.

Ive spent 3 weeks over at the Atheist site and I have never Copt so many personal insults and with real anger, people threatening to close thread down with calls of persecution.

What a laugh!!! ahahaha.

I enjoyed my whole time there just seeing there reactions and what they say and the utter crap they come out in total denial of everything you would say.

Most of the comments where absolutely non intelligent.

I even tried to end the thread myself with no response to see it fall of the board but interestingly they wanted it there for some reason.

However, in al fairness there where a few I liked and wanted to give them the best I had. There were a few truth seekers there and that's all I was interested in.

Lay a few seeds for great Jesus and his Holy Spirit our wonderful friend.

In the last few posts I put up the Nostradamus stuff which really pulled them apart, especially with my call on dates in response to a request and finding that the dates I nominated actually fell on a Thursday in the Sevens Pattern a brilliant confirmation and a demonstration of thoughts in the beforehand from within and realizing a fulfillment of a prophecy in Nostradamus in relation to Thursday, the Aquatic triplicity, the great Seven accomplishment and the call I had made for Judgment Day.

It was a timeline event.

Now the Atheist site appears down or I got Banned. Interesting but Elijah's 2nd Demonstration of proving God does not stop, it is activated and it was there attitude that activated Elijah's 2nd test.

The dye is cast.

Anyway, its good to be here, its like coming back to base to my friends in the brotherhood of Jesus, our Friend and Saviour.

Sevens.

 

 


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:35 pm

Gagliardi

I appreciated very much your company and input and a chance to discuss a few things.

I wish you all the best in all things, consider what I have proposed and all the paths associated as you know Im tied up in debate and exploration, thanks for your contact point III try a drop you a line but guarantees on that one ahahahahah! But Ill try.

All great blessings my friend

Sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:14 pm

Honestly Guys, This could be very serious where man is forced into a corner.

It could come down to investigate all the ancient places properly using all the truth and with all scientific resources to know the truth of the matter, concerning God or not or face the Judgment Day of the truth which I believe we are at the threshold. Literally.

I know this will get a reaction and I dont mean it to. But this maybe the forecast correction set down for man.

Somewhere and somehow, swiftly and no mucking around, someone has to make the decision with all the resources to go out there and find the truth or face the Judgment Day. Its a snare and a trap as I mentioned. Its a corner, man is boxed into and denial will make no difference to the outcome if this is neglected.

Brushing it under the carpet makes the matter worse.

Even the US Navy should go out there and explore the truth for man, whilst they are there.

Anyway that's what I reckon and I know you guys will laugh at this.

And what if I was right in all this and it came true and you heard right from the source and man was in peril?? Thats why there will be great mourning throughout the planet after the fact and realisation that it was true and the journey was completely correct.

But you know what! It could be that we have run out of time and all mankind in all main religions including the no God religions have completely neglected this and it was mans fault squarely for that neglect in over looking this including religion until its to late.

Personal thoughts that have to be tested in the outcome.

Sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:20 pm

The period I forecast period goes till October3rd.

However, to be honest if man has not mobilized himself now, he will not mobilize himself before October3rd.

Ive gone to all religion, all of them they have not responded, Im with the Atheist well its in his court. Because I aint got no resources and Atheist has all resources in science available to him at his disposal.

I propose a Worldwide virtual broadcast throughout the world. A contest of God as opposed to a No God and the Atheist has a good opportunity to prove me wrong once and for all in the science but us all going out there. The Urantia Book and all the books are true or not true in there information

Either way one or the other and we can do this.

I know there are a bunch of billionaires out there that could do this in a flash but there fearful to. Everyone is fearful of what maybe uncovered.

I'd be lucky if I could get a row boat and a flashlight out there ahahahahahgz


Sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:32 pm

born-again-atheist wrote::coffee:

(One more post down.)



AAhhhh caarrrrn man I thought this was cool. Its what its all about. ahahahahah


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:39 pm

I could be wrong and you have an opportunity to disprove that. By perhaps an expedition that could happen and a wonderful worldwide experience for man in discovery, in real time. Far better than Hollywood and its a real reality of truth. The showdown of God or No God! A simple test.

Sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:39 pm

I could be wrong and you have an opportunity to disprove that. By perhaps an expedition that could happen and a wonderful worldwide experience for man in discovery, in real time. Far better than Hollywood and its a real reality of truth.

The showdown of God or No God!

The great contest of the words of one book and one man as opposed to the whole world and all its institutions in the truth of the matter.

A simple test.


Sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:54 pm

born-again-atheist wrote:I can suggest a number of possible explanations for sevens' behaviour, but I fear they could be misconstrued as personal attacks, instead of sincere concerns. So I'll refrain.



Thanks man, Im really sensitive at the moment. Judgment Day comes and I cant convince anyone even through I demonstrated a timeline events yesterday.

I cant convince any one because they all wussess ahahahahah

Thanks man.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:54 am

Katherine wrote:Sevens, do you actually contribute to any other threads in this place?

Oh, and your forum avatar is grammatically incorrect. The apostrophe is superfluous to requirements.



No problem thanks for the advise, should I simply take the apostrophe out? I thought it looked nice. My English is bad at the best of times ahahahah.

I have contributed to ther threads but no response, so dont worry about it. This thread is like a pad or a home.

Thanks Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:24 am

Ahhh just call me sevens. DiFontiane

I wasnt there but I provided other services and close to the source.

 
You're actually saying it's just Sarmasts opinion and no big deal, not worth commentig on.



Robert Sarmast wrote a report based on what he knew at the time. Is that a problem, He was aware of the then known geological record.

I dont see any problems with his report.

Here is a fragment of report on the Med

 

(1) The Mediterranean and Black Sea Basins
Evidence of salt beds and shallow lagoon fossils found in core samples (Deep Sea Drilling Project [DSDP] by the Glomar Challenger in 1970) show that pockets of the Mediterranean had evaporated during the last glacial period. The Straights of Gibraltar formed a narrow escarpment which blocked water from the Atlantic from entering the Mediterranean basin.
"The researchers [William Ryan and Walter Pitman - both geology professors at Columbia University] were reluctantly, but excitedly, driven to the conclusion that the Mediterranean Sea had dried up and refilled a dozen times in a million years. Since the Mediterranean basin is as much as 16,000 feet deep, the dry sea floor must have been an incredible hot desert for long periods of time. The lowest place on earth nowadays is the Dead Sea which is only 1300 feet below sea level Further studies confirmed that deep gorges in solid rock (now filled with ocean sediments and then river muds) lay under the Nile River and the Rhone River, suggesting that these rivers were once great torrents steeply dropping water into the empty Mediterranean basin. (However, other filled in gorges are also found around the world and are not unique to the Mediterranean). Best of all, the researchers imagined a prehistoric waterfall at the Straits of Gibraltar bringing in Atlantic ocean water with the volume of a hundred Victoria Falls or a thousand Niagaras at intervals lasting a hundred years or more."
- Lambert Dolphin , "The Great Mediterranean Desert"


Seems very close to Robert Sarmast thoughts, nothing inconsistent that I see.

Stop playing with my words and imposing assumptions. You have the information and the images, you know what Im looking at and the connections I'm making.

Im not going to play word games with various manipulations of things I wrote. All I say is that another expedition is required and expeditions at the other locations with access to a full array of resources to ultimately prove right or wrong.

Then we can play word games OK.

That's it.

sevens


sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:31 am

Fair Dinkum, trying to be nice and this what I receive. All loaded for insult.

Sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:34 am

Katherine wrote:
sevens wrote:Where in the classroom did you sit, in the front.


I had to - I have 55% hearing loss thanks to a severe ear infection when I was 7.



I had them to.

I was the guy in the back seat being mischievous.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:01 pm

riddlemethis wrote:So, my meeting with the fencing contractor went really well on this fine Thursday morning, August 7th, 2008. I managed to secure a very fair price for my clients to have a lovely addition made to their pool deck. I'm just enjoying a cuppa on this gorgeous day down on 'The Peninsula' (as we locals affectionately call it) before the cabinet maker arrives. Looks like all will be swell for our 1 o'clock appointment. Yep, just checked the horizon for signs of impending doom. All clear! :coffee:

(what's that 10 more posts to go?)



ahahahahaha I was just thinking the same to, its such a lovely day, let me know how it goes for the rest.

enjoy youre cuppa.

sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:50 am

LoneRubberDragon

The post seems very doctrinal and very strong, still reading but one fragment that comes to mind in nall of this and which sums up the journey is this from the 1st Book of Adam and Eve.

 
extract
10:7-9 When Adam and Eve heard these words from God, they cried a bitter cry; and Adam entreated God to let him return into the garden, and look at it a second time. 8 But God said to Adam, "I have made you a promise; when that promise is fulfilled, I will bring you back into the garden, you and your righteous descendants." 9 And God ceased to commune with Adam.



and here is another fragment for your edification

 

extract
14:2 But God the Lord said to Adam, "Indeed I say to you, this darkness will pass from you, every day I have determined for you, until the fulfillment of My covenant; when I will save you and bring you back again into the garden, into the house of light you long for, in which there is no darkness*. I will bring you to it -- in the kingdom of heaven."



Note: two components Fulfillment of the Covenant and bringing man into the Garden, like the Garden of Eden, two parts of the journey and fulfilled. Jesus fulfilled his covenant and is now bringing us all into the Garden and the truth that surrounds it.

and I love this one to which reflects this reality.

 

1Enoch 46:2
He answered and said to me: This is the Son of man, to whom
righteousness belongs; with whom righteousness has dwelt; and
who will reveal all the treasures of that which is concealed; for the
Lord of spirits has chosen him; and his portion has surpassed all
before the Lord of spirits in everlasting uprightness.



and this relating to cities of the righteousness and correction.

 

Enoch 56 6 And they shall go up and tread under foot the land of His elect ones
[And the land of His elect ones shall be before them a threshing-floor and a highway :]
7
But the city of my righteous shall be a hindrance to their horses.




The above reflects the whole journey and the current reality in simple terms.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:10 pm

1Enoch 58 5 And after this it shall be said to the holy in heaven
That they should seek out the secrets of righteousness, the heritage of faith:
For it has become bright as the sun upon earth,
And the darkness is past.



and about the abyss being where the sign lays and who is involved!

 

42:18 He searches out the abyss, and the hearts of men, and considers their crafty devices. For the Most High knows all that may be known, and he looks into the signs of the age .



sevens


Postby sevens on Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:21 pm

1Enoch 39:7 He will direct his counsel and knowledge aright, and meditate on his secrets.
8 He will reveal instruction in his teaching, and
will glory in the law of the Lord's covenant
.



and this overview of the Judgment process.

 

1Enoch 59:1 In those days mine eyes saw the secrets of the lightnings, and of the lights, and the judgements they execute (lit. their judgement ): and they lighten for a blessing or a curse as the Lord of

2 Spirits willeth. And there I saw the secrets of the thunder, and how when it resounds above in the heaven, the sound thereof is heard, and he caused me to see the judgements executed on the earth, whether they be for well-being and blessing, or for a curse according to the word of the Lord of Spirits.

3 And after that all the secrets of the lights and lightning's were shown to me, and they lighten for blessing and for satisfying.



Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:21 pm

1Enoch 39:7 He will direct his counsel and knowledge aright, and meditate on his secrets.
8 He will reveal instruction in his teaching, and
will glory in the law of the Lord's covenant
.



and this overview of the Judgment process.

 

1Enoch 59:1 In those days mine eyes saw the secrets of the lightnings, and of the lights, and the judgements they execute (lit. their judgement ): and they lighten for a blessing or a curse as the Lord of

2 Spirits willeth. And there I saw the secrets of the thunder, and how when it resounds above in the heaven, the sound thereof is heard, and he caused me to see the judgements executed on the earth, whether they be for well-being and blessing, or for a curse according to the word of the Lord of Spirits.

3 And after that all the secrets of the lights and
lightnings were shown to me, and they lighten for blessing and for satisfying.



and this from Nostradamus

 

97
The forces of the sea divided into three parts , (3 cities, Aquatic triplicities, submerged ancient places.)
The second one will run out of supplies,(2nd expedition 1stEden, ran out money)
In despair looking for the Elysian Fields , (Dilmun direct reference? or 1stEden project)
The first ones to enter the breach will obtain the victory.(Victory in the discovery)



 

and this long range forecast of Nostradamus which I believe is all about this journey and the revealing of all the ancient cities.

 
94
For five hundred years more one will keep count of him (Nostradamus 1503 + 500yrs = 2003 (discovery of Atlantis, the beginning journey to the ancient places)
Who was the ornament of his time:
Then suddenly great light will he give, revealed
He who for this century will render them very satisfied
.
and this about images as revealed of the ancient places

 
C1 Q 56
The great amount of silver of Diana and Mercury
(the treasure houses of the planet looked after by the angels i.e. the 7 commands and what it represents.)
The images will be seen in the lake
(All the ancient
cires in the Persian Gulf and 1Eden in the Med)
The sculptor looking for new clay.
(New truth and enlightenment through discovery.)
He and his followers will be soaked in gold.
(the path of truth, beauty and goodness will be blessed and rewarded.)



Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:55 pm

born-again-atheist wrote::coffee:

one down, almost at the 1k limit.

Oh, but as an aside, what has "2003" got to do with
atlantis? You do know it's a fictional city, right?



Robert Sarmast believed this was the Atlantis and 1stEden.

Atlantis is the home of the Gods right, according to legend where fell from there first estate and created the Nodite system that we live in today. You know dependency on the system, lifetime debt and the rest of it. Compromise of planetary matters for profit. Stock market bloodbath, general dumbing down of the people, that kind of thing.

The Nodite system!

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:00 pm

born-again-atheist wrote:Sounds like trash to me. (5 to go)



Oh well one mans trash is another man treasure.

sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:04 pm

C 2 Q 28
The moon in the middle of the night . . . Remembering the Cities 1st Susa and Dilmun to the North was discovered at 12 midnight on Sept 16-17th 06. In the middle of the night.
The young sage alone with his mind has seen it. (Seen the path, the truth and the construct)
His disciples invite him to become immortal . . . (invited to partake of the tree of life by the angels, in other words translation or rapture, the gift!)
His body in the fire. (translation fire passing through to the next dimension of existence, the Angelic realm.)



and


31
 

The Moon in the full of night over the high mountain,
The new sage with a lone brain sees it:
By his disciples invited to be immortal,
Eyes to the south. Hands in bosoms, bodies in the fire
.



and this from the
bookof Thomas

 

GThom 1
And he said, "
Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death ."



and here is another intersecting parallel from the Book of Thomas.

 

"Tell us how our end will be." Jesus said, "Have you discovered, then, the beginning, that you look for the end? For where the beginning is, there will the end be. Blessed is he who will take his place in the beginning; he will know the end and will not experience death,"



 

Isaiah 46:10 Parallel Translations
NASB: Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things which have not been done , Saying, 'My purpose will be established, And I will accomplish all My good pleasure'



Since this thread appears to be on post limit lockout, Judgment day will proceed in the same way on the same standard as demonstrated by the same lockout attitude.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:16 pm

born-again-atheist wrote:Really? I'm looking foward to that... do you think Satan would prefer it if I wore black?



I dont now ask him

 

35
For the free city of the great Crescent sea, (Free city = Dalamatia, Persian Gulf)
Which still carries the stone in its stomach, (the 7 commands)
The English fleet will come under the drizzle (The English and Iranian governments came into the knowledge of the places)
To seize a branch, war opened by the great one.(by revealing the places, a war of truth was opened. Revealing the information was during the time of the British Marine Hostages affair, after the info was sent to them, the marines were released strightaway by the Iranian Government to the surprise of the Western world.) After the affair Blair resigned and became a Catholic.
 



All these leaders know what's happening and are more attuned to these events and things revealing, they are smarter than you think and they observe what is being written. After all they understand the halls of power and they know there is a higher power who observes the legacy that each man leaves behind.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:16 pm

born-again-atheist wrote:Really? I'm looking foward to that... do you think Satan would prefer it if I wore black?



I dont now ask him

 

35
For the free city of the great Crescent sea, (Free city = Dalamatia, Persian Gulf)
Which still carries the stone in its stomach, (the 7 commands)
The English fleet will come under the drizzle (The English and Iranian governments came into the knowledge of the places)
To seize a branch, war opened by the great one.(by revealing the places, a war of truth was opened. Revealing the information was during the time of the British Marine Hostages affair, after the info was sent to them, the marines were released strightaway by the Iranian Government to the surprise of the Western world.) After the affair Blair resigned and became a Catholic.
 



All these leaders know whats happening and are more attuned to these events and things revealing, they are smarter than you think and they observe what is being written. After all they understand the halls of power and they know there is a higher power who observes the legacy that each man leaves behind.

 

Enoch 62
13 And the righteous and elect shall be saved on that day,
And they shall never "thenceforward" see the face of the sinners and unrighteous
.



I look forward to that day now.

I think my job is coming close to completion in this stage of the process, man will be on his own now with only this information to rely on, if a great event occurs as forecast. Maybe today!

All I can say the journey has been tough for the whole time and yet it has been so rewarding and completely inspiring, I lift up my hand to the Father and Jesus and say a big Thank you for the great guidance God. But know this journey is coming to its completion ready for the next stage!

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:37 pm

MrDoom wrote:In before lock. :drunk:



Well this journey is about the parting of the ways and you have made your destiny decision. When things come to pass there will be no where to hide nor to run to. You will be faced with the truth of yourself based on decision and word.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:45 pm

JasonK wrote:
sevens wrote:Well this journey is about the parting of the ways and you have made your destiny decision. When things come to pass there will be no where to hide nor to run to. You will be faced with the truth of yourself based on decision and word.

Sevens


Balls!
If it's destiny, how can anybody make a decision regarding it? It's predetermined. :dunno:



It's predetermined. How do you know that?

In eternal realm which is beyond time/space they already know your destiny by the decisions you make and the attitude you display, its all recorded, like we record things. They already see in the beforehand your life all based on your decisions in a supposed free choice world and expressive world.

sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:48 pm

Psst. His language skills aren't great. That nuance will have totally escaped him.



Sorry about that, that just the way it is.

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:02 am
Well the thread got locked out of the Atheist site.

http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/vie ... start=1000

Looks like they couldn't handle or even defeat this information.

They are on there own now.

I believe this work is completed and now man is ready for judgment

Sevens

Re: What's up with the Christians? They won't talk with me

Postby sevens on Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:28 pm

That would be right, there are many spiritual cowards that exist on this planet who run like cowards from the truth.

dont worry about it mate, the world is full of cowards whether it be Religion or the No God idea but in the future these cowards wont be around by there own ignorant decisions they make today. Why there is a few around here in this joint.

sevens

Re: Theism on decline?

Postby sevens on Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:37 pm

I doubt it Lucifer you have nothing going on, your about to go to court including your follower children.

You have no time left, court is nearly in session, your name is about to be summoned.

Sevens

Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:37 am
Gee I really feel like this and I feel annoyed.

http://video.yahoo.com/watch/2171117/6870358

Judgement unto truth.

Sevens


I have a way to prove God!!! Pt 2

Postby sevens on Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:02 pm

Beginning of the thread
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=51090&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

and

End of the thread
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=51090&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=1000

If anyone interested in this would like to continue the thread no worries, see what happens.

I also apologize in advance of bad grammar and English, I write to quickly.

Sevens

 

Re: I have a way to prove God!!! Pt 2

Postby sevens on Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:13 pm

oddman wrote::pop:

(oh, and Sevens, I admire your persistence)



Ahh no worries, thanks.

I like to see this journey through to the end, either way.

Gotta to give it go, eh!

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!! Pt 2

Postby sevens on Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:27 am

Thankyou all my friends for all the positive replies.

Lets see by the end the month what transpires, Ive got a few dates out there.

Everything in this thread and related thread is all up for testing.

Its either right or wrong, one of the other.

Regarding Judgment day lets see what occurs in accordance to the thread and the time period forecast.

With regards to the ancient cities lets do further expeditions to all the places to define the truth in actual physical discovery. Right or Wrong!

Remember, its a test of this information which extends to the Urantia Book.

I believe the Urantia Book is correct including the books of religion in the way that I see it.

But lets test it out!

Please feel free to make any comment you like, you can bag this project no problem or you can ask relevant questions.

Say what you want. Anything at all.

Unbridled expression is welcome
ahahahahahah.

If was right or wrong but lets see in the outworking, its all up for test.

Head of the chopping block. Good, I dont mind.

The research is ready for the slaughterhouse if I am totally wrong and you can get the knives out.

Cut away.


Sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!! Pt 2

Postby sevens on Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:04 am

Sure lets go out there so we see for ourselves.

Would you like to? to see this research proved wrong.

Lets do it friend, there's plenty space on the boat.

Sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!! Pt 2

Postby sevens on Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:07 am

Anyone else like to join in and see for yourself.

To see whether I am wrong or right?

Or are you all just chickens
brgbrgbrgbrgbrgbrgbrgb(chicken sound) ahahahah

When people say I have the burden of proof which is OK, but what a way to avoid and run
ahahahahah

brgbrgbrgbrgbrgbrgbrgb

sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!! Pt 2

Postby sevens on Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:14 am

Ahhh you're all a pack chickens trapped in coop.

sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!! Pt 2

Postby sevens on Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:19 am

Century V Quatrain 41
Born in the shadows and during a dark day, He will be sovereign in realm and goodness: He will cause his blood to rise again in the ancient urn, Renewing the age of gold for that of brass.



 

Century V Quatrain 53
The law of the Sun and of Venus in strife, Appropriating the spirit of prophecy: Neither the one nor the other will be understood, The law of the great Messiah will hold through the Sun.



 

Century V Quatrain 96
The rose upon the middle of the great world, For new deeds public shedding of blood: To speak the truth, one will have a closed mouth,(Internet) Then at the time of need the awaited one will come late


 

Century IV Quatrain 49
Before the people blood will be shed, Only from the high heavens will it come far: But for a long time of one nothing will be heard, The spirit of a lone one will come to bear witness against it.


 

Century IV Quatrain 56
After the victory of the raving tongue, The spirit tempered in tranquility and repose: Throughout the conflict the bloody victor makes orations, Roasting the tongue and the flesh and the bones.
 
Century II Quatrain 46
After great trouble for humanity, a greater one is prepared
The Great Mover renews the ages:

Rain, blood, milk, famine, steel and plague,
Is the heavens fire seen, a long spark running

 

Century II Quatrain 41
The great star will burn for seven days,
The cloud will cause two suns to appear:

The big mastiff will howl all night
When the great pontiff will change country

 

Century II Quatrain 30
One who the infernal gods of Hannibal
Will cause to be reborn, terror of mankind
Never more horror nor worse of days
In the past than will come to the Romans
through Babel



Babel in Submerged Dilmun
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel/index.html


Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!! Pt 2

Postby sevens on Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:10 am

remains to be seen.

I think Stonehenge and Avalon was before Nostradamus' time. Obviously he looking into the new Millennium.

sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!! Pt 2

Postby sevens on Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:23 am

Century II Quatrain 28
The penultimate of the surname of the Prophet
Will take Diana [
thursday]for his day and rest:
He will wander far because of a frantic head,
And delivering a great people from subjection
.



pe·nul·ti·mate
–adjective
1.next to the last: the penultimate scene of the play.
2.of or pertaining to a penult.
–noun
3.a penult.

[Origin: 1670–80; see penult, ultimate
ultimate]
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2.maximum; decisive; conclusive: the ultimate authority; the ultimate weapon.
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–noun
7.the final point; final result.
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Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!! Pt 2

Postby sevens on Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:34 am

Work that one out for yourself.

continuing...

 
Quote:
"The present times with the past, (Message coming from the past)
Will be judged by the great Jovialist: (the man who brings in judgment ahaha)
The world too late will be tired of him, (no one hears or see, world tires of him)
And disloyal through the clergy jurist." (Clergy fail in there duty...at the end of the day they fail because of inaction after 2000 years they fail to see.....amazing! after all that man has heard and experienced in 2000 years the clergy fail in there test of faith! disappointing!)



Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!! Pt 2

Postby sevens on Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:49 am

Fronkey wrote:
Work that one out for yourself.



No thanks, it's a waste of my time.

And for that reason, I'm out.



Cool man, no worries thanks for joining in, if ever you want get of crap of your mind and or beat up on something come by.

Abuse or any crap is welcome here.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!! Pt 2

Postby sevens on Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:00 am

The following is taken from the lost book of Nostradamus and appears to have characteristics of the judgment period. In between are a few thoughts I had at the time.

All has to be tested which we are doing now.
 
A salver flies, comes to rest in the New City (A salver is a flat tray of silver, perhaps a UFO looking thing.)
Hate flourishes for the entity within. (Battle lines Battle lines are drawn, Government response)
Drawn. Fears of disease mask truth while three There is great fear and trepidation, (fear of chemical warfare).
Leaders in secret, unite against a false threat. (sound's like there is rejection to the offer and the leaders)
hatch a plan against a non threatening gesture by the representatives. (Typical mankind government! No faith! another decietful plan hatched to avoid.)
The bees sting amid thunderclaps and lightning bolts, (Looks like there is a response and some confrontation.)
Confusion. Fear. Awe. The fish trembles, (Great concern and confusion in Battle.)
Governments are strangely silent while the heavens (Truth in the Governments face, nothing to say.)
Flash ominous messages to the populace. East and West darken. (Physical planetary government is physically overcome and does not know what do or what to say.)
Revolution without bloodshed, without strife Conflict finishes, (Great change occurs without war without any conflict.)
Men in unhappy confusion strive for perfections (Man changes his ways and strives for personal perfection, its truly a spiritual experience.)
Beyond their ken. Failure, then elation.
Earth's forces give way to a new power above the clouds. (Earth forces gives way to the "Kingdom of Heaven" and the will of The Father in Paradise.)

Twenty plus two times six will see the lore of the heavens (132?? or 2012AD or 2036 AD or 56 people?)
Visit the planet in great elation. Disease, pestilence,
Famine dies. Rome rejoices for souls saved. The Learned (The Church is happy at the end, let of the hook for slackness and is rebuked.)
Smile in awe. Astrology confirmed. For science, a new beginning." (Exactly right! Everyone is happy and just smiles in awe, In addition, it seems to happen where Science harmonizes with Religion and the ancient places is probably the catalyst that forms a conjunction of verified truth.)




Here is link with some other views.

http://www.rexresearch.com/prophist/phf7no~1.htm

Twenty plus two times six will see the lore of the heavens Does this mean that only 56 people are counted and who see this, after all these years of work. Only 56 arise in the last stand.

56 people, what a laugh ahahahahahah biggest failure of the world greatest mystery all rejected by all man except for 56 people ahahahahahahah that is a joke and really highlights failure of man to respond.

and this of the state of play in this time and the non plused attitude in the offer with insincere words. That would be right.

Quote:
"Comets without tails, move silently (Like an event or something unusual in the heavens)
Panic abounds. An offering rejected, (a tailed comet Panic at first and seems like a proposal is made, a deal but is rejected. I can see that happening in the post rapture/prejudgment scenario. Also the comet seems to change its characteristics.)
Glides among the bees, dies, and heads of state (This Im not sure??)
Nonplused. Signatures in the sand ignored by all." (Sounds like a proposal is ignored based on fluid foundations like sand and governments conspire. Nonplused at the failure)



Sevens


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Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods
Well I opened pt 2 thread, I encountered about 20 abusive posts.

I posted up some of Nostradamus predictions with interpretations

and then I get this.

 
Quote:
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You have been banned from this board until Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:59 am.

Please contact the Board Administrator for more information.

Reason given for ban: Preaching and using a fellow forum members personal problems as an excuse A ban has been issued on your username.



The absolute height of hypocrisy.

To penetrating and too close to the truth for non believing people.

There only chance is to run through banning.

Running to the hills like the cowards they really are.

Here is the site http://www.richarddawkins.net

The thread is in the faith religion section ....I have a way to prove God Pt2....

Let me know who it goes Im banned for 7 days ahahahahahahaha

Actually they may have got rid of the Faith and religion section all together or perhaps Im not seeing it because Im banned. That would be a laugh if they got rid of the section all together.

Well I joined up under sevens8 and the saga continues.

Got one post in I got banned again ahahahahah, what a laugh in suppressing the truth.

Definitely Judgment unto truth, especially when they suppress it. Man creates his own scenario and does fulfill prophecy in his unthinking poor excuse actions.

If anyone wants to have some fun and build on the platform Ive made, go for it. Good time to rouse the Atheist as this expanded knowledge just decimates his foolish ideas and is a real sword of truth. Preaching will get you banned so you have to use other words.

Have some fun with the stupid Atheist because that's all they are, stupid, dumb and gross. Height of all ignorance. I like to shove unbreakable truth in their face, they cannot stand it nor take it which have been demonstrated by there example.

Pathetic example of their truth which is no truth! Untruth set for destruction. They are set for destruction and by there actions they set there own judgment upon themselves.

Know we are safe in the Lord Jesus! thank you Jesus.

I believe in this new expansion of religion, the Atheist is definitely finished and wounded where this is no healing for him except from Jesus. Truth will set you free, right! The Atheist is finished already because there is no truth within him and continues in bondage. I can see the victory already even if there is more to do.

Im a sock puppet now!

You have been permanently banned from this board.

Please contact the Board Administrator for more information.

Reason given for ban: Sock puppet

Now its up to someone else to fly the flag for Jesus on these pathetic boards and where administrators who run to the hills. Actions of cowards running to the hills.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!! Pt 2

Postby sevens8 on Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:31 pm

I was just sent a warning

I am very very very sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings.

I will pray for you, sorry about that.

By the way the above is just simple research and some thoughts based upon what one guy wrote 500 years ago, thats all. Just trying to work it out.

The above is just simple research along the hidden tracks.

Sevens8

Re: I have a way to prove God!!! Pt 2

Postby sevens8 on Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:31 pm

I was just sent a warning

I am very very very sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings.

I will pray for you, apparently that helps with healing when you pray for another, that's what I heard. Again I am very very Sorry about that.

By the way the above is just simple research and some thoughts based upon what one guy wrote 500 years ago, that's all. Just trying to work it out along the hidden tracks.

Its either true or false! Unless somebody else has a better insight?? Im just going by gut feelings and what I sense in my own journey, just a bloke from the bush. Maybe a scholar would now better.

Sevens8

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