Probably not, but that's how the people at the
time perceived it and assumed there own thoughts on the mass destruction of the
cities even though it was due to a natural process. To them it was a completely
supernatural experience and in their interpretation involved God and judgement
that has continued to today.
That's why they revered the Melchizedek as a Demigod as they assumed he has
something to do with it somehow.
Man in his superstition with little scientific knowledge.
Here is thought but I dont know!
What if the Dead Sea was in them days was a freshwater lake considering the
amount of cities surrounding that area. Where a comet came and smashed in to the
dead sea causing more subsidence and much salt. The brimstone or sulfur balls
was the fallout of the Asteroid whilst on approach to its end destination.
Another thought Volcanic action but are there volcanoes in that area. I dont
think so.
Here is a link that connects the Dead Sea with Subsidence. The Dead Sea does
have a history of Subsidence. Maybe there was a rapid subsidence during the
times of the cities, like in Dalamatia City and as a result some Volcanic action
occurred where the fall out of sulphur which meant the demise of the valley
cities??
Its all speculation but there has to be a natural logical process in what
destroyed the cities. That would be a good study!
Still it has the type of today in my mind. The beforehand event horizon of the
event, seen in the future similar to the warning given to Abraham followed by
the destruction of the cities.
all the best
sevens
posted
04-03-2008 10:48 PM
Wirelessguru, I think you're right on
many levels
For example time travel. I believe the mind can be taken to the future. Why just
our imagination can take our mind into far off places.
Yes I see rupture as well, including a rapture ahaha
Also about drugs, I believe they were used by priest of old and even in these
days to, I wouldn't be surprised. I'm talking about natural the effects of
natural things from the earth.
Not talking about chemicals and all that complete rubbish. Those are mind
destroyers as I have been robbed by people who subscribed to those things and
also I have seen people deteriorate over time in every way.
From what I have seen on Google TV, many priests of the ancient past used
mushrooms, gas (unknowingly) probably weed to open up the certain receptors of
there brain.
Mind you many of the effects of these drugs
probably brought on some trance like state and hallucinations. Surprisingly,
many of the long range prophecies have come to pass from what I had seen in the
Google Videos. Who and what was tapped into I dont know but many things of the
future were seen.
I agree with you that the EM imbalance of the approaching Angona system will
effect many other energy levels, even the energies that we dont know about yet.
It will be like a microwave oven particularly when the Sun begins to emit more
and larger Solar flares. Then things will really start to boil.
Its interesting that Mars is warming up to. Perhaps the effect of EM energies
felt in the long range.
I'm sure this has a relationship with gravitational energy of the two systems as
such short range on the approach.
Interesting to ponder!
I think History repeats itself but this time I think its a little different
because the ancient first beginning places are involved kept for a reason.
Perhaps a wake up call, the initial signaling of the approaching reality.
Perhaps that was the reason for this whole journey, what a Testamony, what an
ark! in my view.
Sevens
posted
04-04-2008 05:28 AM
ahahaha The Angona System is like the Father who
came close to the Mother and gives birth to the solar family.
It just like some relationships, the Mother becomes pregnant and the Father just
just wanders into deep space on some orbit, like many only to coming back to he
started from visiting the kids and reuniting with the Mother only to go on
another distant voyage. Whilst the father is away The Mother rears the planets
of the solar system patiently.
When he comes back he creates havoc. I can see the metaphor in real life from
some.
Sevens
posted
04-04-2008 06:46 AM
Hey Wireless check out this Video about Nibiru
And checkout the triangles in association with the Red Disk. This could eclipse
the end of Lucifer and Judgment and in relation to the triangles which point to
the truth of the fallen Sons from Dalamatia City. To me it point resolve and the
connection to the cities in relation to Judgement
Google Video part 1
Note on the centre of the Sun symbol you have the 3 concentric circles and have
all these triangles all over the circular Symbol. Like a city with a circular
temple with triangle surrounding it and particularly triangles that lead to the
gate. Like triangle gates.
How curious how that contains all the symbolism of the ancient cities and has
the right symbolism and attached to Nibiru.
Remember when I working on the symbol triangle with the circle in the middle. I
separated the ends of the triangle(6 ends) bowed it 60 degrees by 6 in to the
middle of the shape which make 2 circles and 6 ends bowed 60 degrees inwardly =
360 degrees like a universal compass which means 4 angels of the heavens which
john mentions as beasts but actually the universal controllers and there work is
related to universe time and direction, these beast a quite something from the
Urantia Book perspective and I believe this symbol could be related to them as a
universal compass in metaphor.
It could be all related to the Angona System and it approach from what this guys
says.
I must say its a very intriguing building.
The wing disk on top of the building could symbolize the first city of Dalamatia
city with the symbol and the same be found in the shape of the highland
triangular valley of Van with the 3 co planar circles and the same in 1Eden? But
the triangle circles has definite commonality. It also symbolizes the advent of
Nibiru.
The Sign and the event.
Now Im watching Part 3, Im not sure where part 2 is.
But now they are looking inside the building inside the ice rink and top of the
ice on the ceiling are the 3 co planar circles. The building is a walking story
of the end times and the passage of the Angona system or Nibiru.
I amazed that the 3 co planar circles are involved including the triangles with
the triangle circle chevron and the 3 concentric circles in the middle of the
Sun circle eclipsed by The Angona System in its passage in all in the same
timing. NOW virtually.
Now there looking at where this design perpetuated and make a connection to
Alexandra Palace with the crown on the top representing the Crown but I wonder
if its related to the Seventh Mystery the Crown of the beginning city where the
symbol of the circle and triangle came from?
Note the 3 coplanar roof on top of the original palace, 3 circular roofs with
the middle roof being the biggest.
Pretty full on the study, I'm seeing something totally different in may ways
because all the symbolism fits.
And the newest building we have the 3 circles either end of the building and in
the middle and appears to be related to triangles. All shapes and symbolism.
And this Egyptian tablet found in Abydos Egypt.
Maybe it is a record of the ancient places in a modern world or even with
submarines going down under the water living in a capsule studying the artifacts
of Dalamatia City. I had a similar inspiration/thought about a building and
underwater city capsule like NEMO that housed the city and call it a country, a
submerged country where people and citizens of the country can visit and walk
around the place.
I dont know, I see the same idea on the following tablet. It also depict current
war helicopters and the submerged city virtualy in a potential war zone and its
the ruins that fascinate me that its related to Archeology.
The image depicts many submarines perhaps going down to the ancient cities and
it appears to be a hive of activity. It could be the story of the cities and the
outcome, a living prophecy today looking the past fulfilling itself as we
realize it....maybe!
Are we seeing ourselves in the current reality, looking into the past through
symbols a perpetuating story that is fulfilling itself now.
Note: the tube going to the surface for air to the underwater capsule near the
ruins. Its underwater and is about the sites and the story.
There are more videos overall. I found interesting even though I have a few
ideas of my own. The space ship probably represent rapture of Gods people within
the design of the dome s of many early churches.
Nasca Lines
posted
04-04-2008 06:46 AM
Hey Wireless check out this Video
about Nibiru
And checkout the triangles in association with the Red Disk. This could eclipse
the end of Lucifer and Judgment and in relation to the triangles which point to
the truth of the fallen Sons from Dalamatia City. To me it point resolve and the
connection to the cities in relation to Judgement
Google Video part 1
Note on the centre of the Sun symbol you have the 3 concentric circles and have
all these triangles all over the circular Symbol. Like a city with a circular
temple with triangle surrounding it and particularly triangles that lead to the
gate. Like triangle gates.
How curious how that contains all the symbolism of the ancient cities and has
the right symboliam and attached to Nibiru.
Remember when I working on the symbol triangle with the circle in the middle. I
separated the ends of the triangle(6 ends) bowed it 60 degrees by 6 in to the
middle of the shape which make 2 circles and 6 ends bowed 60 degrees inwardly =
360 degrees like a universal compass which means 4 angels of the heavens which
john mentions as beasts but actually the universal controllers and there work is
related to universe time and direction, these beast a quite something from the
Urantia Book perspective and I believe this symbol could be related to them as a
universal compass in metaphor.
It could be all related to the Angona System and it approach from what this guys
says.
I must say its a very intriguing building.
The wing disk on top of the building could symbolize the first city of Dalamatia
city with the symbol and the same be found in the shape of the highland
triangular valley of Van with the 3 co planar circles and the same in 1Eden? But
the triangle circles has definite commonality. It also symbolizes the advent of
Nibiru.
The Sign and the event.
Now Im watching Part 3, Im not sure where part 2 is.
But now they are looking inside the building inside the ice rink and top of the
ice on the ceiling are the 3 co planar circles. The building is a walking story
of the end times and the passage of the Angona system or Nibiru.
I amazed that the 3 co planar circles are involved including the triangles with
the triangle circle chevron and the 3 concentric circles in the middle of the
Sun circle eclipsed by The Angona System in its passage in all in the same
timing. NOW virtually.
Now there looking at where this design perpetuated and make a connection to
Alexandra Palace with the crown on the top representing the Crown but I wonder
if its related to the Seventh Mystery the Crown of the beginning city where the
symbol of the circle and triangle came from?
Note the 3 coplanar roof on top of the original palace, 3 circular roofs with
the middle roof being the biggest.
Pretty full on the study, I'm seeing something totally different in may ways
because all the symbolism fits.
And the newest building we have the 3 circles either end of the building and in
the middle and appears to be related to triangles. All shapes and symbolism.
And this Egyptian tablet found in Abydos Egypt.
Maybe it is a record of the ancient places in a modern world or even with
submarines going down under the water living in a capsule studying the artifacts
of Dalamatia City. I had a similar inspiration/thought about a building and
underwater city capsule like NEMO that housed the city and call it a country, a
submerged country where people and citizens of the country can visit and walk
around the place.
I dont know, I see the same idea on the following tablet. It also depict current
war helicopters and the submerged city virtualy in a potential war zone and its
the ruins that fascinate me that its related to Archeology.
The image depicts many submarines perhaps going down to the ancient cities and
it appears to be a hive of activity. It could be the story of the cities and the
outcome, a living prophecy today looking the past fulfilling itself as we
realize it....maybe!
Are we seeing ourselves in the current reality, looking into the past through
symbols a perpetuating story that is fulfilling itself now.
Note: the tube going to the surface for air to the underwater capsule near the
ruins. Its underwater and is about the sites and the story.
There are more videos overall. I found interesting even though I have a few
ideas of my own. The space ship probably represent rapture of Gods people within
the design of the dome s of many early churches.
Nasca Lines
Sevens
posted
04-04-2008 03:37 PM
Ub Fragment relating to symbols.
quote:
Religion arises as a biologic
reaction of mind to spiritual beliefs and the environment; it is the last
thing to perish or change in a race. Religion is society's adjustment, in
any age, to that which is mysterious. As a social institution it embraces
rites, symbols, cults, scriptures, altars, shrines, and temples. Holy
water, relics, fetishes, charms, vestments, bells, drums, and priesthoods are
common to all religions. And it is impossible entirely to divorce
purely evolved religion from either magic or sorcery.
and this fantastic fragment
quote:
The pouring out of the Spirit of
Truth provides the spiritual foundation for the realization of great
achievements in the interests of the human race of the bestowal world. U
rantia is therefore far better prepared for the more immediate realization
of a planetary government with its laws, mechanisms, symbols,
conventions, and language-- all of which could contribute so mightily to
the establishment of world-wide peace under law and could lead to the
sometime dawning of a real age of spiritual striving; and such an
age is the planetary threshold to the utopian ages of light and life.
and this part
quote:
Some early communities were ruled by
medicine men, who often acted as chiefs. One man would act as priest,
physician, and chief executive. Quite often the early royal insignias had
originally been the symbols or emblems of priestly dress.
and this
quote:
We speak of God's "first" thought
and allude to an impossible time origin of the Eternal Son for the purpose of
gaining access to the thought channels of the human intellect. Such
distortions of language represent our best efforts at contact-compromise with
the time-bound minds of mortal creatures. In the sequential sense the
Universal Father never could have had a first thought, nor could the Eternal
Son ever have had a beginning. But I was instructed to portray the
realities of eternity to the time-limited minds of mortals by such symbols of
thought and to designate the relationships of eternity by such time concepts
of sequentiality.
and
quote:
These are the " seven spirits of
God, " "like lamps burning before the throne," which the prophet saw in
the symbols of vision. But he did not see the seats of the four and twenty
sentinels about these seven adjutant mind-spirits. This record represents the
confusion of two presentations, one pertaining to the universe headquarters
and the other to the system capital. The seats of the four and twenty elders
are on Jerusem, the headquarters of your local system of inhabited worlds.
and
quote:
In instituting this remembrance
supper, the Master, as was always his habit, resorted to parables and symbols.
He employed symbols because he wanted to teach certain great spiritual truths
in such a manner as to make it difficult for his successors to attach precise
interpretations and definite meanings to his words.
In this way he sought to prevent successive generations from crystallizing
his teaching and binding down his spiritual meanings by the dead chains of
tradition and dogma. In the establishment of the only ceremony or
sacrament associated with his whole life mission, Jesus took great pains to
suggest his meanings rather than to commit himself to precise definitions.
He did not wish to destroy the individual's concept of divine communion by
establishing a precise form; neither did he desire to limit the believer's
spiritual imagination by formally cramping it. He rather sought to set
man's reborn soul free upon the joyous wings of a new and living spiritual
liberty.
Here is an important one about John
and symbols and exactly what we see in Revelation.
quote:
As John turned this Scripture over
in his mind, he began to comprehend the symbolic significance of this
Sunday-afternoon pageant. At least, he grasped enough of the meaning of this
Scripture to enable him somewhat to enjoy the episode and to prevent his
becoming overmuch depressed by the apparent purposeless ending of the
triumphal procession. John had a type of mind which naturally tended to
think and feel in symbols.
and this part
quote:
And we seek for those symbols of
meaning wherewith to convey to our fellow men these concepts of the
reality of the idealism of the religion of Jesus, and we will not cease to
pray for that day when all mankind shall be thrilled by the communal vision of
this supreme truth. Just now, our focalized concept of the Father, as held
in our hearts, is that God is spirit; as conveyed to our fellows, that God
is love.
and
quote:
The social consciousness is not
inalienable like the God-consciousness; it is a cultural development and is
dependent on knowledge, symbols, and the contributions of the
constitutive endowments of man--science, morality, and religion. And these
cosmic gifts, socialized, constitute civilization.
and this part
quote:
Jesus repeatedly taught his apostles
that no civilization could long survive the loss of the best in its religion.
And he never grew weary of pointing out to the twelve the great danger of
accepting religious symbols and ceremonies in the place of religious
experience. His whole earth life was consistently devoted to the mission
of thawing out the frozen forms of religion into the liquid
liberties of enlightened sonship the liquid liberties of enlightened
sonship
sevens
posted
04-04-2008 04:14 PM
Ub fragments on symbolic
quote:
From the dawn of civilization every appealing
movement in social culture or religious advancement has developed a ritual, a
symbolic ceremonial. The more this ritual has been an unconscious growth, the
stronger it has gripped its devotees. The cult preserved sentiment and
satisfied emotion, but it has always been the greatest obstacle to social
reconstruction and spiritual progress.
and this fantastic piece
quote:
the human race espoused the more mystic and
symbolic beliefs, while now, with approaching maturity, mankind is ripening
for the appreciation of real religion, even a beginning of the revelation
of truth itself.
and
quote:
The "tree of the knowledge of good and evil"
may be a figure of speech, a symbolic designation covering a multitude of
human experiences, but the "tree of life" was not a myth; it was real
and for a long time was present on Urantia. When the Most Highs of Edentia
approved the commission of Caligastia as Planetary Prince of Urantia and those
of the one hundred Jerusem citizens as his administrative staff, they sent to
the planet, by the Melchizedeks, a shrub of Edentia, and this plant grew to
be the tree of life on Urantia. This form of nonintelligent life is native
to the constellation headquarters spheres, being also found on the
headquarters worlds of the local and superuniverses as well as on the Havona
spheres, but not on the system capitals.
Sevens
posted
04-04-2008 05:42 PM
quote:
the human race espoused the more mystic and
symbolic beliefs, while now, with approaching maturity, mankind is ripening
for the appreciation of real religion, even a beginning of the revelation of
truth itself
About those google videos in 3 last post about
the building and its symbolism. I do see things differently as I see the whole
journey to the ancient places and its relations to the approach of
Nibiru/Angona/Wormwood as a feasible idea but then again its all in the
beholders eye in what he sees and how he basis thoughts upon his own knowledge,
the wider the person in what he knows and understands the wider the
interpretations is.
I dont see it as bad as he thinks as I think it all about an event, the whole
story of the end.
Another thing, I'm wondering if Christianity has the correct interpretation of
the Beasts in heaven and there whole and there whole idea of 666 as it could be
related to certain components of the symbolism of the Universal compass.
The Ub thoughts on the Beast s in heaven that John saw
quote:
But it was of Salvington that John wrote:
"And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices"
--the universe broadcasts to the local systems. He also envisaged the
directional control creatures of the local universe, the living compasses of
the headquarters world. This directional control in Nebadon is maintained by
the four control creatures of Salvington, who operate over the universe
currents and are ably assisted by the first functioning mind-spirit,
the adjutant of intuition, the spirit of "quick understanding."But the
description of these four creatures--called beasts--has been sadly marred;
they are of unparalleled beauty and exquisite form.
and this thought about the "mark of the Beast"
which is seen as spiritual and I believe its all to do with the infusion of the
Fallen Sons of God gene that we inherited. In the Seventh mansion world we
overcome the spiritual propensity within us.
and
quote:
The experience on this sphere is the crowning
achievement of the immediate postmortal career. During your sojourn here you
will receive the instruction of many teachers, all of whom will co-operate in
the task of preparing you for residence on Jerusem. Any discernible
differences between those mortals hailing from the isolated and retarded
worlds and those survivors from the more advanced and enlightened spheres are
virtually obliterated during the sojourn on the seventh mansion world. Here
you will be purged of all the remnants of unfortunate heredity, unwholesome
environment, and unspiritual planetary tendencies. The last remnants of
the "mark of the beast" are here eradicated.
Sevens
posted
04-04-2008 05:57 PM
But I thought this was the coolest
quote:
the human race espoused the more mystic and
symbolic beliefs, while now, with approaching maturity, mankind is ripening
for the appreciation of real religion, even a beginning of the revelation
of truth itself.
So true a real new beginning.
sevens
If men would maintain their freedom, they must,
after having chosen their charter of liberty, provide for its wise,
intelligent, and fearless interpretation to the end that there may be
prevented:
1. Usurpation of unwarranted power by either
the executive or legislative branches.
2. Machinations of ignorant and superstitious agitators.
3. Retardation of scientific progress.
4. Stalemate of the dominance of mediocrity.
5. Domination by vicious minorities.
6. Control by ambitious and clever would-be dictators.
7. Disastrous disruption of panics.
8. Exploitation by the unscrupulous.
9. Taxation enslavement of the citizenry by the state.
10. Failure of social and economic fairness.
11. Union of church and state.
12. Loss of personal liberty.
These are the purposes and aims of
constitutional tribunals acting as governors upon the engines of
representative government on an evolutionary world.
Page 799 Mankind's struggle to perfect government on Urantia has to do with
perfecting channels of administration, with adapting them to ever-changing
current needs, with improving power distribution within government, and then
with selecting such administrative leaders as are truly wise. While
there is a divine and ideal form of government, such cannot be revealed
but must be slowly and laboriously discovered by the men and women of
each planet throughout the universes of time and space.
and another one
quote:
The sincere pursuit of
goodness, beauty, and truth leads to God. And every scientific
discovery demonstrates the existence of both freedom and uniformity in the
universe.
The discoverer was free to make the discovery. The thing discovered is real
and apparently uniform, or else it could not have become known as a thing.
and this fantastic fragment
quote:
"2. Everyone who enjoys wealth as a
result of discovery should remember that one individual can live on earth but
a short season and should, therefore, make adequate provision for the
sharing of these discoveries in helpful ways by the largest possible number of
his fellow men.
While the discoverer should not be denied all reward for efforts of discovery,
neither should he selfishly presume to lay claim to all of the advantages
and blessings to be derived from the uncovering of nature's hoarded
resources.
and this one for human relations
quote:
In physical life the senses tell of
the existence of things; mind discovers the reality of meanings; but the
spiritual experience reveals to the individual the true values of life. These
high levels of human living are attained in the supreme love of God and in the
unselfish love of man. If you love your fellow men, you must have discovered
their values. Jesus loved men so much because he placed such a high value upon
them. Y ou can best discover values in your associates by discovering their
motivation. If some one irritates you, causes feelings of resentment, you
should sympathetically seek to discern his viewpoint,his reasons for
such objectionable conduct. If once you understand your neighbor, you will
become tolerant, and this tolerance will grow into friendship and ripen into
love.
sevens
Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:07 pm
Yes Petra I agree, I just find there are too
many divides and differences that separate us all. I truly believe that
Jesus will reveal the truth and that is it and I hope it will unite all of
us in the Body of Jesus in friendship and I know he values friendship above
the differences between us even with varying thoughts and opinions.
From what I have been investigation Jesus is truly our Saviour, undoubtedly!
I really believe from what I see before me something is approaching,
something really big and all the prophecies will come to pass and it will
get very serious and we will all be thinking to ourselves deep within
confronted with the inevitable!
Words and opinions wont mean much anymore except the truth and soul. Just a
test but there is Jesus and I feel confident that he has a preservation plan
for the highest type human and that is based on faith in truth beauty and
goodness and a simple test of man and it will apply to all. Not about race
or color but an attitudinal test. I believe this journey brings out the test
and the facts on this forum and I believe this is a sample that represents
the condition of the body of Jesus and its attitude towards one another.
I just reckon the more we love each other in light of our differences the
more progress we will make in the end times and the more successful we will
be for this little outpost of truth.
Like what JuJube posted was interesting and provides more useful information
to the table that is constructive and brings us closer to the final
consummation considering everyones discoveries all working together as a
team for reckoning the season with accuracy.
The more positive contributions given freely to all our benefit is really
good progress.
Its a time for considering all things put on the table by all the brothers
of the body..and sisters off course.
The Father doesn't want man to be a lame duck or some pitiful human
hopelessly awaiting for end times in fear and hope he makes cringing, he
wants man to be confidently upright, strong in truth and righteousness,
moving forward whilst being led in the journey by himself a true witness of
the success of the Father and Man working together.
we are Jesus' men on the job and the more united we are the more closer we
get to the final consummation.
Sevens
posted
04-05-2008 08:50 PM
quote:
No Sevens....just an Atlantis City Limits sign
would do very well.
ahahaha no worries Hey you might find the sign
Wrong way go back!!
A long wall cuts it very much, especially when its written about and discovered
in the precise location.
It cuts it and already people are
in denial.
Its in parallel with the discovery of troy, from the books and then in the
psychical discovery using the books.
Nothing on this forum comes close!
sevens
posted
04-05-2008 10:05 PM
Here are some articles on Dilmun near the Persian
Gulf heads not in Bahrain.
I agree with Theresa Howard-Carter.
quote:
In a 1981 Journal of Cuneiform Studies article,
"The Tangible Evidence for the Earliest Dilmun", Theresa Howard-Carter
espoused her theory identifying Dilmun with Qurna, an island at the Strait of
Hormuz.
"Sorry, we do not permit the following HTML tag or attribute: Parenthesis in
HTML tag" where I can post a wikipedia link?? This is ridiculous.
Sevens
Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:34 am
Fragments from the UB on how Jesus may come and it
could be related to an event 50/50 he will discerned by the spiritual eye of
FAITH, like faith in the journey to everything of the unrevealed, revealed.
Quote:
Quote:
Jesus promised to do two things after he had ascended to the Father, and
after all power in heaven and on earth had been placed in his hands. He
promised, first, to send into the world, and in his stead, another teacher,
the Spirit of Truth; and this he did on the day of Pentecost. Second, he
most certainly promised his followers that he would sometime personally
return to this world. But he did not say how, where, or when he would
revisit this planet of his bestowal experience in the flesh. On one
occasion he intimated that, whereas the eye of flesh had beheld him when he
lived here in the flesh, on his return (at least on one of his possible
visits) he would be discerned only by the eye of
spiritual faith.1918:06-1919:00
Quote:
Will he
come unannounced and as an isolated event? We do not know.
Only one thing we are certain of, that is, when he does return, all
the world will likely know about it, for he must come as the supreme ruler
of a universe and not as the obscure babe of Bethlehem. But if
every eye is to behold him, and if only spiritual eyes are to
discern his presence, then must his advent be long deferred.
1919:02
Quote:
The
children of light are all destined to see him, and it is of no
serious concern whether we go to him or whether he should chance first to
come to us. Be you therefore ever ready to welcome
him on earth as he stands ready to welcome you in heaven.
1919:04
Quote:
Quote: The future of Urantia will doubtless be
characterized by the appearance of teachers of religious truth--the
Fatherhood of God and the fraternity of all creatures. But it is to
be hoped that the ardent and sincere efforts of
these future prophets will be directed less
towardthe strengthening of interreligious
barriers and more toward the augmentation
of the religious brotherhood of spiritual worship among the many followers
of the differing intellectual theologies which so characterize Urantia of
Satania.1010:04
I thought there were many clues to attitude and
end times and seeing Jesus through the spiritual eyes in connection to his
advent.
and this referring to the holy spirit
Quote:
Quote:
180:6.4 "This
spirit will not speak of himself, but he will declare to you that which the
Father has revealed to the Son, and he will
even show you things to come; he will glorify me even as I have
glorified my Father. This spirit comes forth from me, and
he will reveal my truth to you.
Everything which the Father has in this domain is now mine; wherefore did I
say that this new teacher would take of
that which is mine and reveal it to you.
Sounds very interesting and these ancient
places are the crowns and the possession of Jesus.
Quote:
176:2.4
"You behold me now in weakness and in the flesh, but when I return, it shall
be with power and in the spirit. The eye of flesh beholds the Son of Man in
the flesh,
but only the eye of the spirit will behold the Son of Man
glorified by the Father and appearing on earth in his own name.
I am being guided in equal measure throughout all
the scriptures I have nothing to fear for I have the Saviour by my side. He
is guiding me throughout all the books of religion.
I am on the true path of truth.
I am very satisfied with my path.
Calvin will not convince me otherwise as he has his own challenges.
I am ahead of Calvin, if anything Calvin should learn from this. I have been
led to the first cities and are a co discoverer and have documented the
journey where it leads me to rapture before the approaching Angona System as
seen in the skies.
There is no other journey on the planet, no other that leads to judgement and
that reveals all the ancient places in the beforehand.
Archaeology, Cultural Anthropology – “The dark
Lords of Hattusha”
posted
04-06-2008 04:26 PM
The Urantia Book speaks about a wall being the
last remnant of 1stEden. It doesn't mention man made or anything just a STONE
wall.
That is exactly what we found in the location led by the Urantia Book.
Plus there are other anomalies on the Acropolis Hill, at the top and the base
found in the first scan.
Essentially the Acropolis Hill was refashioned to look like 3 co planar silos.
The evidence of this can be found at the base and it corresponds to the 3 co
planar circles on top of the Hill.
1stEden being the land of the Gods so to speak is the Atlantis of the Med 38,000
years ago.
Atlantis in legend was the land of Gods right before they fell. Right!
It just so happens there are 2 locations of the Land of the Gods from a
different time period and both land of the Gods have been located in different
locations and that makes the Persian Gulf also the Atlantis of the Persian Gulf
in truth being the land of the Gods.
However, Dilmun the evacuation place of the fallen Sons of God, after the fall
of Dalamatia City is where the Atlantis legend originated from and went
throughout the world by proxy of Dilmun of the East and of the North over time!
Essentially, the description of Atlantis given, if anything the city layout fits
the location of Dilmun to North but in some areas it fits Dalamatia City and
uncannily it also fits 1stEden as well.
Plato is a real mix of many relevant places of the the Gods from all over places
and each place is present in the description.
The Pillars of Heracles associated with Gibraltar is a later interpretation in
my view! Remember, the Persian Gulf had heads with a sea to the West and East.
The Persian Gulf Heads is a place of crossing.
Sevens
posted
04-07-2008 05:14 AM
Hi Im looking for references of Wormwood in the
bible and seeing if there is any connection to Nibiru/The Angona System/planetX
in characteristics.
In the following are various fragments out of the Bible containing wormwood.
quote:
6 Seek the Lord, and ye shall live; lest he
break out like fire in the house of Joseph, and devour it, and there be none
to quench it in Beth-el.
AMOS
CHAPTER 5
7 Ye who turn judgment to wormwood , and leave off righteousness in the
earth,
8 Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the
shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that
calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the
earth: The Lord is his name:
9 That strengtheneth the spoiled against the strong, so that the spoiled shall
come against the fortress.
10 They hate him that rebuketh in the gate , and they abhor him that
speaketh uprightly.
and here is another
quote:
DEUTERONOMY
CHAPTER 29
18 Lest there should be among you man, or woman, or family, or tribe, whose
heart turneth away this day from the Lord our God, to go and serve the gods of
these nations; lest there should be among you a root that beareth gall and
wormwood;
and
quote:
DEUTERONOMY
CHAPTER 29
14 I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they
commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of
evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them
unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.
15 Therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts concerning the prophets; Behold,
I will feed them with wormwood, and make them drink the water of gall: for
from the prophets of Jerusalem is profaneness gone forth into all the land.
16 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets
that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their
own heart , and not out of the mouth of the Lord.
and
quote:
THE PROVERBS
CHAPTER 5 4 But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a two edged sword.
5 Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.
6 Lest thou shouldest ponder the path of life, her ways are moveable, that
thou canst not know them.
7 Hear me now therefore, O ye children, and depart not from the words of my
mouth
and
quote:
DEUTERONOMY
CHAPTER 29
17 And ye have seen their abominations, and their idols, wood and stone,
silver and gold, which were among them:)
18 Lest there should be among you man, or woman, or family, or tribe, whose
heart turneth away this day from the Lord our God, to go and serve the gods of
these nations; lest there should be among you a root that beareth gall and
wormwood;
19 And it come to pass, when he heareth the words of this curse, that he bless
himself in his heart, saying, I shall have peace, though I walk in the
imagination of mine heart, to add drunkenness to thirst:
and
quote:
13 He hath caused the arrows of his quiver to
enter into my reins.
14 I was a aderision to all my people; and their song all the day.
15 He hath filled me with bitterness, he hath made me drunken with
wormwood.
16 He hath also broken my teeth with gravel stones, he hath covered me with
ashes.
17 And thou hast removed my soul far off from peace: I forgat prosperity.
18 And I said, My strength and my hope is perished from the Lord:
19 Remembering mine affliction and my misery, the wormwood and the gall.
and lastly
The following sounds like the passage of Wormwood the brown drawf and a
progression of all the things that will happen during its passage!
The first to the 6th angels could be the progression of the disasters of
Wormwood/The Angona System.
quote:
7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with
blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was
burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with
fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life,
died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.
10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven,
burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and
upon the fountains of waters;
11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part
of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because
they were made bitter.
12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten,
and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the
third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it,
and the night likewise.
13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying
with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of
the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!
To me it describes the passage of
Wormwood/The Angona System/PlanetX/Nibiru. In all the scriptures it seems to
suggest that wormwood is very bitter and hard to swallow. It will be the result
of the passage of Wormwood in the literal sense.
Wormwood for man will be a very bitter thing for man to experience. In all this
experience it seems that the surrounding asteroids my enter the earth and cause
all kinds of damage not to mention earthquakes. Apparently it appears to get
very hot on the planet. This fall out much make the waters bitter and
undrinkable.
This one seems to be straight forward
7 Ye who turn judgment to wormwood , and leave off righteousness in
the earth,
Then the following gives you advise before judgement.
8 Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the
shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that
calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the
earth: The Lord is his name:
and this one about the gates and of what is spoke! Is that the gates that lead
to the cities in the literal sense as we have we have the ancient cities.
10 They hate him that rebuketh in the gate , and they abhor him that
speaketh uprightly.
and then in rev, the definition of wormwood. What is Wormwood that responsible
for all this chaos on earth.
11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of
the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they
were made bitter.
Apparently Wormwood will be seen in the skies in 2 years time but it will be
like in the days of Noah. Personally I expect rapture of the first fruits before
Wormwood is seen. It would be part of the realisation and the refining.
sevens
sevens
posted
04-07-2008 03:10 AM
No your just in denial of the locations and of
the evidence and what is written and that is plain as day.
With the false comment is this the purge of set religion and doctrine or
something?
All I am is a normal bloke going through the books with my own inquiry seeing
for myself like everyone else. I'm no writer and no author just a simple
recorder from a mount that writes simply (with plenty of grammatical mistakes
ahahaha). It just so happens I have a deep interest in religion, science,
archeology and God all combined. Nothing wrong with that and if things get
prophetical in the journey then so be it, If its true it will come to pass,
isn't that the test of a prophet as in the standards laid down in the bible??
All I'm doing is writing what I feel when I come over things in relation to my
focalisation to the ancient places, like everyone else on this planet when they
are inspired about something and want to express it.
And since I have been led to believe in the books of religion that this is a
quest and I like to do a good job for the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven! and
you would do the same I'm sure if you where in my shoes seeing things the way I
do and how they all come together in oneness.
Brig you know that i had a couple cracks at the placing the day of the Lord
through patterns and dates found in the books. Each time nothing happened
whereas it was like a rehearsal. However instead of a dramatic event, a city of
our ancient past was found which led me to believe there was more to this story
thus being led along the way through the books.
Each year since being on this forum in around the time period of what I call a
prophecy season 4th July till October, I have discovered a city. Equally timed
and spaced from each another in the timeline and considering there are multiple
locations discovered dotted across the middle east and neighboring regions.
Now in this year the journey leads to outer space to Wormwood in the next stage
of journey. Considering Jesus will reveal all things and then the end shall
come. So obviously it seems apparent that the journey is clearly pointing the
cause of many problems the planet will have in the future as foreseen. Wormwood!
Even Jesus said that he will bring right to the footsteps of judgement and that
includes after the revealing of all things hidden which points to the ancient
places with a new book incorporating all things.
stay tuned eh!
Its funny where we area at right now is in
between the past and the ultimate demise in the future. These places have an
deep underlying message that affects us all and is subtly pointing all of us to
the truth of the future. Its all being defined!
sevens
posted
04-07-2008 06:06 PM
It just seems that the Ark is the rapture
including all the information leading to it and after rapture when the ark
closes then, as in Noah's days it begins as the wormwood will be seen and
verified by governments. When the door is closed, its closed and all will be
banging on the door.
Something like that! To me that would be the logical thing in the correction of
current truth.
Hate to sound dire but concerning Wormwood perhaps some its debris will be
sulphur balls, the same sulphur balls that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah
including the other cities.
Perhaps these sulphur balls are debris from the Wormwood on its second last
approach to this solar system.
From what I understand the orbit of Nibiru is about 3600 years. Sodom was
destroyed 6000 years ago. However it seems out as Nibiru would of been 1200
years away from our solar system when the cities were destroyed.
Maybe what destroyed Sodom was trailing debris caught in our earths atmosphere
destined for Sodom. It appears in Deuteronomy that the same will occur again as
in the days of Sodom perhaps this wormwood approach will be linked to a
planetary event perceived as Judgment as in those days and does shower us with
fire and brimstone sulfur balls.
its a thought!
Sevens
posted
04-07-2008 06:25 PM
Oh well all in the name of progress. I
wonder if the holographs will lead to false realities that may really led man
astray in his perception of reality itself. Where he gets addicted to 3d
holographs which can distort his reality.
I know in heaven they have these devices where you can be in any reality of the
past. We will all see them.
I suppose it comes down to the programming and the program that drives these
things.
I gotta say I could do with a 3d
companion right now. ahahahahahahahah
Sevens
posted
04-08-2008 01:11 AM
Hi
Here is some fragments from the Kolbrin bible written by the Egyptians after the
time of Moses. Below is an example of how these scripts also look to PlanetX/The
destroyer as a time of change
Manuscripts 3:4 When blood drops upon the Earth, the Destroyer will appear
, and mountains will open up and belch forth fire and ashes. Trees will be
destroyed and all living things engulfed. Waters will be swallowed up by the
land, and seas will boil.
Manuscripts 3:5 The Heavens will burn brightly and redly; there will be a
copper hue over the face of the land, ‘followed by a day of darkness. A new
moon will appear and break up and fall.
Manuscripts 3:6 The people will scatter in madness. They will hear the
trumpet and battlecry of the Destroyer and will seek refuge within dens in
the Earth.Terror will eat away their hearts, and their courage will
flow from them like water from a broken pitcher. They will be eaten u in the
flames of wrath and consumed by the breath of the Destroyer.
Manuscripts 3:10 In those days, men will have the Great Book before
them; wisdom will be revealed; the few will be gathered for the stand; it is
the hour of trial. The dauntless ones will survive; the stouthearted will
not go down to destruction.
This new book that reveals everything in this
time is the urantia Book and everything in the above verse is exactly about this
journey!
Even the Egyptians saw this time.
Undoubtedly
Sevens
Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:23 am
Wow man thats full on.
Why all of a sudden? Why is there a sense of urgency?
sevens
JORDAN MAXWELL.The Bible, End Times & Prehistory 8/10
The Nibiru triangle
Taken from here
Search for Planet X (Part 4)
Nibiru Seven dots
Just watching some videos
Sometimes I wonder whether this journey to the
ancient places is a complete fulfillment 70 years after Israel was born.
Ive said in the past that I believe this journey
to the ancient places is the Zion or the new Jerusalem as that represents truth.
I believe the truth and discovery of the ancient places is the spiritual
fulfillment as that represents the absolute past and has been hidden revealed.
We have all the components. A journey since 2003
and then 1st expedition to 1stEden 2004. This also incorporates the
multiple discoveries of Dalamatia City, Babel/Dilmun, Van highland discovery and
1stSusa.
I feel the whole journey to cities and the end
times is contained in full in the Odes of Solomon and the St Ephraim and the
Seven pearls. I feel that use of the texts combined with all the
discoveries is the rebuilding of the temple. I also find it interesting
that the journey of the city has continued to Wormwood/The Angona System
To me this journey reflects all the prophecies.
I wonder whether 666 is related to the 360
degrees of the circle. Like 6 x 60 degrees = 360
It might signify the orbit of Wormwood 360 , its
mark. Wormwood it exactly like the beast. Which is the beast in my
view. The beast descriptions in the world system is most likely the
political signature of the time when Wormwood arrives the best.
In the journey we have the
Cities
Gates and its rebuke
The submerged country of the realm of Paradise was declared home of the ancient
days
We have Wormwood on the approach.
What is hidden has been revealed
The cities are revealed
When revealed we know the end is near.
Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:25 am
AAHHHH Come on, what is this persecution time,
like the Salem witch hunt or something.
Actually I question your sense of Christianity with all its judgement upon
others particularly upon those who do love Jesus and the Father even with
varying ideas.
You're no Christian in attitude in the light of truth. I certainly dont see
the witness of the Holy Spirit in your verbal attacks without spiritual
substance.
In this world you
Multiple Christian organizations that have differing doctrines. All of them
are different so how can you be so judgmental upon those that have differing
ideas.
This whole difference is one of the things that will be refined by Wormwood
the destroyer with only one truth and that will be the truth of Jesus. It
maybe that those who impose judgment on one another may have to stay here for
the refining.
If you hide and dont respond I will just go back to the gates of the Cities of
truth and sit and wait for Wormwood to come with a rebuke!
Its the journey of the end times leading from the cities to Wormwood/The
Angona system/The Destroyer/Nibiru.
As Wormwood approaches maybe people will start coming in to the gates to find
the truth of everything.
As for there is very few.
Remember this in the Kolbrin Bible if you can handle it whilst hiding behind
doctrine. Another book that comes to light with its contribution to the end
times as truth was embedded in all the books without prejudice!
Quote
Manuscripts 3:10 In those days, men will
have the Great Book before them;wisdom
will be revealed;the few will be
gathered for the stand; it is the hour of trial.
The dauntless ones will survive; the
stouthearted will not go down to destruction.
Exactly what we have today! as plain as day!
And this one Calvin....The following has all the components of the journey to
the ancient places, this journey and no other. Everything was done and
consummated by myself without any knowledge of this in this journey to the
cities of truth.
Quote
AMOS
CHAPTER 5
6 Seek the Lord, and ye shall live; lest he break out like fire in the
house of Joseph, and devour it, and there be none to quench it in Beth-el.
7 Ye who turn judgment to wormwood , and leave off righteousness in the
earth,
8 Seek him
that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and
turneth the shadow of death into the morning,
and maketh the day dark with night: that
calleth for the waters of the sea, and
poureth them out upon the face of the earth:
The Lord is his name:
9 That strengtheneththe spoiled against the strong, so that
the spoiled shall come against the fortress.
10 They hate him that
rebuketh in the gate , and
they abhor him that speaketh uprightly.
The following verse associated judgement to the Wormwood and its approach.
Judgement is related to righteousness Many turn against the truth in the
initial process. Its inconvenient 7 Ye who turn judgment to wormwood , and
leave off righteousness in the earth,
In metaphor I see many reflections that accompany this journey to the cities.
It reflects direct advise to seek the Lord and his wisdom in this time
8 Seek himthat
maketh the seven stars and Orion, and
turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh
the day dark with night: that
calleth for the waters of the sea, and
poureth them out upon the face of the earth:
The Lord is his name:
The Seven stars is related to the Seventh Mystery and one of its components is
Seven. the seven stars and Orion It seems that the Seven components is
attached to Paradise and the Universal Fathers. In the following we find turneth the shadow of death into the morning,
and maketh the day dark with night It
appears that in the light of ultimate disaster an event occurs which for some
turns the Night into day which means the truth comes to pass, it arises. All
that is said comes to pass. It is true and the realisation of that in the
physical is a real morning light in the realisation for some. However for
some its like the Day turning into night the realisation of the ultimate
destiny in the approach of Wormwood. Complete disaster full of fear. I feel
the following points directly to the submerged truth of the cities of truth
which opens the truth of the past. Calling to the waters, calling to the past
to reveal themselves, the call for truth where the truth fills the whole earth
Like in this journey to the ancient cities and the use of the Internet
worldwide access for all freely given. that
calleth for the waters of the sea, and
poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The Lord is his name:
And the Lord is his name, The Lord has his Seventh marker on this construct.
The truth makes the weak strong That
strengtheneththe spoiled against the strong,
so that the spoiled shall come against the fortress.
To me this all points to the Gates of truth that one has to pass the view to
the physical cities surrounded by branches of truth relating to the cities.
10 They hate him that
rebuketh in the gate , and
they abhor him that speaketh uprightly.
It speaks directly of the Gate which is related to a city and also states that
a rebuke lays at the gates which is all to so with this journey. People dont
like the truth but Paradise fully supports the truth as expressed at the
gates. The End times is related to this journey and its is described in the
Bible to a tee in relating to the ongoing reality of the unfolding of this
mystery. A living mystery like this book a living book!
And remember at the end times like in this time the final construct follows
this order Manuscripts 3:10 In those days,
men will have the Great Book before them;
wisdom will be revealed;the few will
be gathered for the stand; it is the hour of trial.
The dauntless ones will survive; the stouthearted
will not go down to destruction.
A great new book related to the revealing of the truth as in the cities. A
book and journey that goes before judgement like in this journey. Only those
that believe will survive.
I believe this event in the following is the rapture of the elect and the
faithful but I believe this will happen before the mass realisation of
wormwood. When the realisation of Wormwood occurs then I feel this will
happen. Manuscripts 3:6 The people will scatter
in madness.They will hear the trumpet and
battlecry of the Destroyer and will seek
refuge within dens in the Earth.Terror
will eat away their hearts, and their courage
will flow from them like water from a broken pitcher.
They will be eaten u in the flames of wrath and
consumed by the breath of the Destroyer.
This I believe will happen at the realisation of the truth including the
missed opportunity of rapture in realisation of the approach of Wormwood.
In all of this there lays a very harsh penalty for mankind and for everything
he represents. This journey maybe the ark to success through the abyss of
this oncoming reality!
In the following are some notes I was taking
.....................
Sometimes I wonder whether this journey to the ancient places is a complete
fulfillment of prophecy of the Spiritual Israel, 70 years in 2008 after Israel
was born in 1948 and this also fits Nostradamus' quatrains of the present time
of what he saw.
Ive said in the past that I believe this journey to the ancient places is the
Zion or the new Jerusalem as that represents truth in the spiritual realm in
relation to the journey. I believe the truth and discovery of the ancient
places is the spiritual fulfillment as that represents the absolute past and has
been hidden and now revealed.
We have all the components. The journey since 2003 and before and then the 1st
expedition to 1stEden/Atlantis of the Med in 2004 and which incorporates the
multiple discoveries of Dalamatia City, Babel/Dilmun, Van highland discovery and
1stSusa is the journey of truth and revealing and representative of Paradise.
I feel the whole journey to cities and the end times is contained in full in the
Odes of Solomon and the St Ephraim in the Seven pearls. I feel that the use of
the texts combined with all the discoveries is the rebuilding of the temple,
Solomons Temple in the spiritual realm of Jesus and related to the revealing of
what is hidden. I also find it interesting that the journey of the city has
continued to Wormwood/The Angona System. The journey hasn't stopped but there
is an end. While people are looking at physical Israel for all the answers
maybe there really overlooking the real spiritual arising that is happening with
these cities and the revealing of them being called from the sea. They
are the instruments and the journey is all recorded in the Odes of Solomon. Its
is living reality of the Odes of Solomons and the crowns in the outworking in
todays reality relating to the cities of truth. The Temple of Solomon which are
the first cities of where the the tree of of life lays. This is the Temple of
Solomon in the Spiritual and in the physical and the rebuilding of the temple in
truth.
To me this journey reflects all the prophecies.
I wonder whether 666 is related to the 360 degrees of the circle. Like a
triangle where each end is bent 60 degrees inwardly forming a circle 6ends x 60
degrees = 360 thus the triangle circle chevron, does it signify the orbit of
wormwood in relation to our solar system even though its a elliptical circle as
in the triangle and bent 60 degrees inwardly where all the ends make a circle or
a red dwarf coming at us.
It might signify the orbit of Wormwood 360 , its mark. Wormwood is exactly like
the beast. Which is the beast in my view. The beast descriptions in the world
system is most likely the political signature of the time when Wormwood arrives
the beast.
In the journey we have the
Cities
Gates and its rebuke
The submerged country of the realm of Paradise was declared home of the ancient
days
We have Wormwood on the approach.
What is hidden has been revealed
The cities are revealed
When revealed we know the end is near.
.......................................
Anyway they were some thoughts that I felt as I watching the videos. While some
people seem skeptical about religion they are not fully aware of the full
intimate facts of the journey to the cities and what causes activation which
includes the construct in detail.
Its quite possible that in my contemplations that this could be the real Zion,
the truth in the journey to the cities and out of that the truth of the future
is confirmed through a demonstration perhaps in the rapture.
A preservation scheme of Paradise of Humans based on simple faith of a child and
the out working of that in truth in the daily living which incorporates the
truth of Jesus.
Born of the Water and of the Spirit of the Wind. I wonder if the wind is the
internet and the water is the truth from the cities.
Sevens
posted
04-09-2008 09:10 PM
Oh well we are only human in all our
imperfections but least we strive for the truth of everything. Thats the main
thing and attempt to bring the evidence forth.
Nothing like a mystery unfolding before your very eyes and the thing is I can
see the rainbow and it leads to the gates of the Kingdom of Heaven. I believe we
have all the instruments and realisation in which a process of change is
activated and I feel it has alot to do with the approach and visit of Wormwood.
If those infrared images from the South Pole are
right and truthful we have only 2 years head start to plan but I feel a rapture
will come before the official trumpet/sighting of Wormwood, the outworking of
change.
There are currently 3 preservation plans going on at this time in light of
Wormwood. The government plan of self preservation (i.e. the doomsday seed
bank), the free for all plan (get watch you can) and the Plan of Jesus the
sevenfold scheme of preservation for all man. A plan open for all man with doors
currently open.
I feel we are on the verge of a massive
breakthrough and the time clock is ticking away! Wormwood is the signature of
the time clock.
If you're interested in more here is another post
on another forum.
I use as many resources that I feel where truth emanates from. I dont care
where it comes from I dont look at the books with prejudice. I really love
this research and make it available to all because I really enjoy being led
throughout the books of religion.
You know in all this time Satan does not enter into the debate nor comes into
my ind because I am consumed with Holy Spirit in this journey. I feel it is a
honour to do this work for Jesus.
You know if the images from the South Pole are correct we have only 2 years
when this red dwarf is seen and major disruption can occur.
I'm only sharing this experience with my fellow man I'm not asking for
anything because I have already received.
What if I'm right 12 Apostles and this is the actual outworking of the Holy
Spirit within man to bring reveal all things that has been hidden??
See the only way is to go out there and uncover the truth and we can do that
now.
An interesting image of an Ancient
tablet with Sitchin's thoughts. Note the triangle in association with the
winged disk maybe there could be a deeper or another meaning going in the same
place.
and look at this following image and its
relation to the 3 triangles within the winged disk or red dwarf! and could the
3 triangles within the winged disk signify the 3 locations of truth of the
multiple locations where the tree of life was kept in Epochs in the past? Is
this an end time scenario of the Journey and the story to the cities of truth
leading to the winged disk?? The Destroyer or the visiting Angona system/
Nibiru or Wormwood?? Also note all the Egyptian religious symbols! Does this
signify all the religions of the world being gathered unto the triangle in
light of the winged disk??
Just some thoughts.
Is this the story of the end times we see before us in symbolism?
Quote
Please reconsider this reckless course and return to the teachings of the
Bible, my friend! Heed not the words of Satan.
My friend 12 Apostles, I use the bible all the the time in my focalisation I
have demonstrated this throughout the course. I have no fear in what I find
because i find it inspiring and I know the Jesus my friend is setting the
pathway of this journey.
As far as I'm concerning, I'm in the promised land already being led in the
truth using everything. I have no fear because I know Jesus my friend is with
me on this path and we are breaking ground together and Jesus will come to the
rescue of his servants as part of the realisation of truth. Like an Ark! Like
in Noah's days.
Anyway I just used AMOS CHAPTER 5 in a couple of posts behind. I use the
bible!
Its either truth or false and the church could put some resources into this to
find the truth for the congregation.
Like the truth in metaphor and literal coming
out of the sea revealing itself in light of the Winged Disk. The light in the
Abyss in light of the reality.
The Egyptian winged disk below and its triangle
symbolism to me identical to the triangle of truth.
The Wasp in the middle has the sting of truth and
some religion do topple as truth of the matter arises. I feel its the end time
scenario represented by symbolism in the final scenario!
and the triangle of truth following the journey of the tree of life.
And now it has been completed with the approach of Nibiru/The Angona
System/Wormwood/The Destroyer system coming our way.
I personally feel that the Egyptian winged disk
prophecy in the image has been fulfilled today. However, we do have to sight
The destroyer with our own eyes but it is seen in the images from the South
Pole using an earth bound IRAS.
Always remember that the Jewish religion and the Egyptian religion do have a
relationship in the past and Moses was brought up in the knowledge of the
Egyptian religion and the Hebrew religion and many Egyptian proverbs from the
Book of Wisdom in those times was adopted in the Hebrew religious documents
through Moses. Compiling the best of all things for his people.
Why the Essenes in there thoughts was also affected by the Egyptian thought
and ideas in some ways to.
All connected with commonality in the symbols
leading to the same place within the approach of Wormwood. Its the scenario we
live in today as in the Egyptian Winged disk image.
Sevens
posted
04-10-2008 05:26 PM
Hey Wrielessguru
Just go here, there is a bunch of video I posted yesterday.
You'll also see some of the stuff I have to contend with.
Sevens
posted
04-11-2008 06:00 AM
Hi wirelessguru.
Ah there ok I dont know to many at the other site but I get some debate mainly
finger pointing.
I suppose when Calvin and his friend start attacking the UB i get into the foray
and use truth as reply in the research.
All the best
Sevens
posted
04-11-2008 06:18 AM
Anyway Ishtar I hope that keeps you a
little informed of my journey in the books and videos of recent!
all the best
Sevens
posted
04-11-2008 07:47 AM
The
more I look at this image the more I see
For example if you look at this Image from a 3D prospective you see two walls
outstreched. As you walk towards the centre, you see what seems a gate below the
double circle on top of the gate enclosed with the circle of the Universe as in
the stars of the on the Semi circle. The Gaps seems to be an opening of the Gate
and the doors are open.
The 3 triangles represent the abode of the tree of life in the Fathers temples.
Each location makes a triangle with 2ndEden in the middle. Also not the Circle
on top of the gates with the 2 images beside it
Ok now in the image note the wasp or the Bee not the outline of his outer edge
of his winf\g and then connect it to the horizontal line across the image.
What do you see?
I see something a number and what number is that?
A seven, number 7 and the triangles are representative of the what leads
to the gateway the ancient temples of the first and second epoch and in between
the default of the first sons of God and second son of God, Adam.
This is what is hidden and revealed.
Maybe the piece missing on the actual arrival of the Angona system. When that
piece is realized in the approach then this piece of the puzzle is fulfilled.
And then right in front of the Seven is the tree of life coming out of the
earth. The truth of the tree of life and the cities that represented the tree of
the life and the Father in the first times.
Now the gate and its symbol including the 2 falcons either side are the
representative of the 3 coplanar symbols and is associated with the gateway. The
path is long and the gate is narrow. Yes, the winged disk could be
representative of the Angona system in the approach and this maybe the
invitation to the gateway and the evacuation of the servants and the elect in
this initial time, open to all people of simple faith!
Amazing, to see it first as a winged disk simply in space and then view it from
a 3d prospective and see it as gate flanked by walls which are the wings. Like a
gathering. In the second image below it flys away where I assume doors closed
and where there no access. Also it may seem that wormwood will be coming from
South to North route like in the images of the winged disk.
Just some thoughts...You know....what does all
mean in this journey of realization in an epic of discovery.
Maybe its an evacuation Egyptian Stargate represented as rapture in the books in
one form or another in light of the truth.
I definitely believe this is part of the Seventh Mystery and perhaps a visual
scenario of the end time reality with the cities revealed in the images.
Looking at the image above the image appears to be another Egyptian religious
symbol next to the triangle. In front of the gates.
And note Seven is right in the middle of the 3 triangles, the temples of the
tree of life where Seven is supping of the tree of life and it appears to be the
entry key to the mystery of the Father in the end times. But the Seven is made
up of the Bee which pollinates the truth of the tree of life before the gate in
the journey to the Cities of the Heritage of the Ages. Mans and Gods heritages
and this is the correction of the truth through enlightenment. What comes after
then is up to the individual!
Its just like the journey in the triangle of truth.
And remember Jesus very words recorded by the Essenes
Quote:
Jesus from the Sevenfold Peace of the Essene
papers.
Thou shalt travel the Seven Paths
Of the Infinite Garden
and
The paths are seven
Through the Infinite Garden
The Essenes where influenced to a degree by Egyptian religious ideas.
and
Quote:
Isaiah 62:10 Go through, go through the gates; prepare ye the way of the people;
cast up, cast up the highway; gather out the stones; lift up an ensign for the
peoples.
or you could view the Sun Disk looking down at the circular disk hi crown which
represents the birdmans head with arms outstretched before the Scenario of the
final reality and another 3d view like signposts in front of the gate bit.
Looking from the top position the gate would be where his mouth is. From where
the word comes from.
Have another look at the sun disk from that prospective.
I also want to say that there appears to be 35 feathers on each wings/wall which
amounts to 70 feathers. Seems familiar 70, the number 70?? again another 7 but
in the multiple of 10.
From what I see is 4 fingers on one
hand and possibly 3 or 4 fingers on other a 7/8 or perhaps could mean the years
that this journey is realized 07/08 as in the Scenario before the gates Maybe??
If each feather represents a year then this year less 70 years is 1948 creation
of Israel. Interesting!
Consider that this could the birth of the spiritual Israel in realisation more
so than the physical level beyond races and borders.
And the walls leads to the gate which leads to the city of eternity.
a clearer view
Sevens
posted
04-11-2008 10:19 AM
and this
Here is a clearer view of the symbols before the gate
A loop of rope that has no beginning and no end, it symbolized eternity. The sun
disk is often depicted in the center of it. The shen also seems to be a symbol
of protection. It is often seen being clutched by deities in bird form, Horus
the falcon, Mut the vulture. Hovering over Pharaohs head with their wings
outstretched in a gesture of protection. The word shen comes from the word "shenu"
which means "encircle," and in its elongated form became the cartouche which
surrounded the king's name.
Shenu
More commonly know as a cartouche. The shape represents a loop of rope in which
a name is written. A protector of that name
Ankh
Symbol of eternal life. The gods are often seen holding an ankh to someone's
lips this is considered to be an offering of "The Breath of Life". The breath
you will need in the afterlife.
Pet
This symbol depicts the sky as a ceiling which drops at the ends, the
same way the real sky seems to reach for the horizon. This sign was often used
in architectural motifs; the top of walls, and door frames. It symbolizes the
heavens.
and now note the 3 co planar circles
And who is it related to
Ra
The sun was the primary element of life in ancient Egypt, we find this
importance reflected in the art and religion. Some of the most popular gods had
a solar connection. The sun was first worshipped as Horus, then as Ra and later
as Amun-Ra There are many other representations of the sun, including Khepri,
the great scarab who symbolizes morning and the ram-headed god Khnum
representing evening. During the reign of Akhenaten, the sun was worshipped
as the Aten. A form of the sun disk with its rays depicted as arms holding
ankh signs. Another common form that the sun takes is that of Horus Behudety,
the winged sun disk flanked by uraeus.
and
Maat
Represents truth, justice, morality and balance. Deities are often seen standing
on this symbol, as if standing on a foundation of Maat.
This is the closets I could come to a triangle
Primordial Hill
The Egyptians believed that during creation this hill rose out of the sea of
chaos to create dry land. The idea of this hill rising had a profound effect on
the egyptians, being used as every thing from temple layouts to the possible
inspiration behind the pyramids.
Might have great message
Whats even more outstanding The two batches of
symbols in front of the gates are submerged underwater.
She
A pool of water. The Egyptians portrayed bodies of water by means of equally
spaced vertical wave lines. When these lines are inclosed by a rectangle it
denotes a lake or pool. The Egyptians believed water was the primeval matter
from which aII creation began. Life in Egypt's desert climate depended on
water, and a pool of water would be a great luxury. There are many tomb
paintings that show the deceased drinking from a pool in the afterlife.
This symbol found on old Norse stonecarvings is called "Hrungnir's heart," after
the legendary giant of the Eddas. It is best known as the Valknut, or "knot of
the slain," and it has been found on stone carvings with funerary motifs, where
it signified the afterlife.
Definition: A graphic depiction of the nine
worlds in Norse cosmology, divided into three realms. These are:
In the upper realm:
Asgard, the abode of the Aesir, ruled by Odin, the chief of the Norse Gods.
Vanaheim, the abode of the Vanir.
Alfheim, the world of elves, ruled by Freyr.
Below, connected to the upper realm by Bifrost, the rainbow bridge:
Midgard, meaning "middle earth," this is the abode of humanity, the physical
plane. Midgard is surrounded by the Ocean, the abode of the world serpent
Jormungand.
Jotunheim, the home of the Jotuns, or giants.
Svartalfheim, the world of the dark elves, an underground kingdom.
The lowest level, the land of the dead, also has three realms:
Niflheim, a frozen wasteland, eternal darkness, ruled by the Goddess Hel.
Muspelheim, the realm of the fire giants.
Hel, the abode of the dead.
Related Resources:
Asatru
A description of the history, beliefs and misconceptions, symbols and
traditions of Asatru believers, as well as links to relevant websites. I will
also include an abbreviated calendar of holidays, a list of deities, and links
to appropriate web content and recommended further reading.
Is this a distant reflection of Van of Old
Vanaheim, the abode of the Vanir.
and this one of ISHTAR
quote:
This symbol is found on many ancient stone
carvings, and represents the Goddess Tanit. Tanit was the Carthaginian and
Phoenician Goddess of the moon. Tanit was the Patron of Carthage and the
consort of the god Baal. She may have been related to the goddess Astarte/
Ishtar.
On the winged disk there appears to
symbols that appear under water.
Letter sound: T or TH
Examples: time, tight
Symbol: loaf of bread
Next it you have this symbol
Symbol: village with crossroads
Meaning: village, town
Mind you the circular symbol next to the loaf of bread does not have a cross.
However put the two together and have
The Town or The Village.
Or being under water the submerged town or village. In light of this there are
two sets of this symbol which means the 2 submerged Villages, town or Cities.
Perhaps the submerged towns could be spiritually representative of the spiritual
and the physical??
Shen
A loop of rope that has no beginning and no end, it symbolized eternity.
The sun disk is often depicted in the center of it. The shen also seems to be a
symbol of protection. It is often seen being clutched by deities in bird
form, Horus the falcon, Mut the vulture. Hovering over Pharaohs head with their
wings outstretched in a gesture of protection. The word shen comes from the
word "shenu" which means "encircle, " and in its elongated form became
the cartouche which surrounded the king's name.
Shenu
More commonly know as a cartouche. The shape represents a loop of rope in which
a name is written. A protector of that name
Sevens
posted
04-11-2008 10:53 PM
That interesting wirelessguru.
The only information I have is the video posted on Google who claims they were
taken from IRAS South Pole.
Thats all I know, the guy who posted was NibiruShock2012 on google video.
You'll have to go from there. There is a number of videos that have commentary
on the images.
Tutmose records a circle of fire that
was in the sky after some days it became bigger and brighter and filled the
land.
Could this Planet X and its passage?
posted
04-13-2008 04:55 AM
Hey Wirelessguru
Ive been thinking about those
NibiruShock2012 images and now I'm am not sure whether they are authentic. I
have my doubts now!
From what Ive seen its probably is a hoax.
However, from those images it did stimulate some thoughts where I did establish
that the Angona system out of the Urantia Book has all the same characteristics
as Nibiru.
To me that was a benefit even the destroyer out of the Kolbrin Bible was quite
interesting to.
Timing I have no idea but personally if I were anyone, if possible I would store
food and water just in case. It might very well be the case of the virgins with
oil and the virgins with out.
I'm skeptical about images but I do believe that the Angona System/Nibiru does
exist.
Also I want to ad that in the first winged seal
that I saw because of the res It appeared to me as a 7 but in the clearer image
the outer edge of the first wing tip seem more separated from the slug. Doesn't
appear to be a seven.
I was seeeing things ahahahahahahah
All the best
Sevens
posted
04-13-2008 05:41 AM
That winged disk incredible though. You can sit
in 3 different ways like a 3 dimensional image.
Its an amazing image. All I know that when Abraham told Pharaoh about the
Melchizedek, the Pharaoh believed him and advised to go with his blessings.
Maybe the symbol of the Melchizedek, the concentric circles is somehow embedded
in the symbols adopted by the Egyptians. I wonder if there symbols changed after
2000BC Somehow!
Even with the arms lowered gives you this walking between walls to a small
passage with all symbolism with may represent a mystery and by identifying all
the keys in the gateway to eternity. Like having all the symbols in the reality
in the actual scenario.
Living it. Like a living mystery
of faith and it unraveling before us. Its like when I watched the video I saw
the image I just gravitated instantly I didn't now why I just knew there was
something there there was reflection. Interesting!
I find inspiration in that!
Sevens
posted
04-13-2008 06:15 AM
See, when you look at the disk in the middle of
winged disk.
You would think there is one circle but then if you look closer it could be two
circles, one embedded in the other. Right!
But then you look closer you can concentric circles.
The dark outline of the outeredge, the light circle in the middle and the dark
inner edge circle. Therefore 3 concentric circles the symbol of the Melchizedek.
3 circles in one!
A loop of rope that has no beginning and no end, it symbolized eternity. The
sun disk is often depicted in the center of it. The shen also seems to be a
symbol of protection. It is often seen being clutched by deities in bird form,
Horus the falcon, Mut the vulture. Hovering over Pharaohs head with their
wings outstretched in a gesture of protection. The word shen comes from
the word "shenu" which means "encircle, " and in its elongated form became
the cartouche which surrounded the king's name . .
The amazing thing is when you look closer at the
bottom winged disk image and look closer at the chest of the birds and the other
image it appears snakes but maybe its birds with circular breastplates with a
cross symbol, either side you see a circle with a cross in the middle which
represents town or village or passage of crossing.
What this highlights is the 3 co planar circles either side of the great disk.
Here are a few points about Abraham and Cheops, you decide.
1.) Abraham went into Egypt after he received his ascension ritual.
2.) At the time of Abraham, the Pharaoh was a descendent of Ham, and not then
eligible to hold the priesthood. [1]
3.) The Hyksos (Shepard kings) ruled Egypt part of the time, and were kin
of Abraham (if not Abraham himself and/or his descendents). As such they
were candidates to hold the priesthood. [2]
4.) To at least a great degree, the Egyptians had knowledge of the
ascension ritual at some point and passed it along, in degrees of corruption.
To the degree of the corruption that was passed-on, I will leave to the reader
to decide.
The Great Pyramid (of Pharaoh Cheops) was built sometime around the period
that Abraham was in Egypt. The pyramid was permanently closed with a plug, and
there was never a body interred there.[3] The pyramid included all the
necessary symbolism for use in ascension rituals. It had three basic levels.
At the bottom, which was subterranean (representing the telestial kingdom),
is found a pitthat could have been used to store water for
washings. The next level up is called the Queen’s Chamber, representing the
terrestrial kingdom. It was higher in the structure and larger. You then
ascend to the King’s Chamber (representing the celestial kingdom). It is
larger and grander. There are two basic sections. The first could be used for
teaching and initiation, then, as you go through a section meant to divide the
two rooms, the final room is entered. There was a box (or ark) in the room.
It does not take much to assume this ark contained the law, and that the
initiates would kneel at this ark or alter.
[ 1 - Abraham 1:27]
[2 - See Joseph of Egypt, Elder Mark E. Peterson, Deseret Book, The Land of
the Nile. See Improvement Era, 1923, Elder J.M. Sjodahl, Tut-Ankh-Amen and
Sun-Worship.]
[3 - “Two air vents (M, N) passing through the entire body of the Pyramid
ventilate the King's Chamber. In itself this is sufficient to establish
that the building was not intended for a tomb.” Manley P. Hall, The Secret
Teachings of All Ages.]
regarding the Abraham and the Hyskos ruler of
Egypt here is an excerpt out of the Urantia Book
quote:
Not long after they had established themselves
near Salem, Abraham and Lot journeyed to the valley of the Nile to obtain food
supplies as there was then a drought in Palestine. During his brief sojourn
in Egypt Abraham found a distant relative on the Egyptian throne, and
he served as the commander of two very successful military expeditions for
this king. During the latter part of his sojourn on the Nile he and his
wife, Sarah, lived at court, and when leaving Egypt, he was given a share
of the spoils of his military campaigns.
The key to finding the Pharaoh at the time is: When was Egypt undergoing
successful military campaigns? and was it at around 2000BC onwards?
If you could pin point the era success then you can locate the Pharaoh
and here is the great clue of Melchizedeks
influence in Egypt and might explain the winged disk and the concentric circles
including the co planar circles.
quote:
It required great determination for Abraham to
forego the honors of the Egyptian court and return to the more spiritual work
sponsored by Machiventa. But Melchizedek was revered even in Egypt ,
and when the full story was laid before Pharaoh , he strongly urged
Abraham to return to the execution of his vows to the cause of Salem .
web page
and here is another piece out of the UB
The Salem religion persisted among the Kenites in Palestine as their creed,
and this religion as it was later adopted by the Hebrews was influenced,
first, by Egyptian moral teachings; later, by Babylonian theologic
thought; and lastly, by Iranian conceptions of good and evil. Factually the
Hebrew religion is predicated upon the covenant between Abraham and Machiventa
Melchizedek, evolutionally it is the outgrowth of many unique situational
circumstances, but culturally it has borrowed freely from the religion,
morality, and philosophy of the entire Levant. It is through the Hebrew
religion that much of the morality and religious thought of Egypt,
Mesopotamia, and Iran was transmitted to the Occidental peoples
and here is another piece that proves that Moses did travel through Northern
Arabia which proves Ron Wyatt.
UB
They were merely fellow nomads who chose to follow the leadership of Moses as
the children of Abraham and their Semite associates from Egypt journeyed
through northern Arabia.
And there you have it a direct connection to the
influence of Melchizedek which can be seen in the winged disk and in the culture
of Egypt.
Melchizedek was revered in Egypt and distant reflections can be seen in symbol.
Sevens
The Great Hymn to the Aten
One of the most famous pieces of Egyptian
literature, the "Great Hymn to the Aten" was found in the tomb of Ay, in the
rock tombs at Akhetaten. It is attributed to Pharaoh Akhenaten himself, and
gives us a glimpse of the artistic outpouring of the Amarna period. Often
compared to Psalm 104, it has been translated a great many times, and is to this
day used to learn
hieroglyphs. My favourite translation is that by Lichtheim, but I have
unfortunately at the moment only the first part of it available. The full hymn
is translated, with introduction, by Wilson.
hey I was thinking about the picture further, here is a thought. Liked in the
winged disk.
Its like Jesus revealing the symbols himself. The final connection. However is
that arrangement a random thing or was it meant to be in that arrangement?
Like the triangle of the truth
In front of Jesus' outstretched hands are the instruments in symbolism. The
symbol that I can see here is definitely a circle within a triangle symbol. The
symbols are marked by the round buns of bread around the circular saucer. The
circular saucer does have 3 concentric circles within its design. Although, I
can also see 3 co planar circles within the arrangement as well.
The 3 co planar circle arrangement also exists on top of the Acropolis Hill in
1stEden.
Sevens
Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:04 am
I wonder if this statement has a subtle reflection
to the Angona System/Nibiru/The Destroyer
Quote:
Ikhnaton had associated the flaming
disc of the heavens with the creator God,
Flaming disk could be the Sun but I wonder if this could include the Angona
System?
Speculation and could be looking into it to much but at the same time it could
be relevant.
Sevens
posted
04-14-2008 08:06 PM
About the location of the mount relating to the
beetle, Qoais had the name.
Personally I feel it could of been one of those commercial centers that
flourished throughout the early times of Adam and the Suntites and Cutites.
I'm sure 1stEden is where Robert Sarmast has located it identified by the wall
but I have no doubt there could of been a trading centre there on Beetle island,
why not?
Adam had 100 commercial centers flourishing throughout the regions. I think they
had early sea commerce throughout of what I call the sea of Atil.
Josephus writes in The Antiquities of the Jews 1.2.3:
They also were the inventors of that peculiar sort of wisdom which is
concerned with the heavenly bodies, and their order. And that their inventions
might not be lost before they were sufficiently known, upon Adam's
prediction that the world was to be destroyed at one time by the force of
fire, and at another time by the violence and quantity of water, they made
two pillars; the one of brick, the other of stone: they inscribed their
discoveries on them both, that in case the pillar of brick should be destroyed
by the flood, the pillar of stone might remain, and exhibit those
discoveries to mankind; and also inform them that there was another pillar of
brick erected by them.
Now this remains in the land of Siriad to this day.
and
Jer.32:20: God has set signs and wonders in the land of Egypt, even to this day.
and this
"The Akkadian’s name for Orion is Urana which means “light of heaven”"
and
Isaiah 60:1-3:
Arise, shine; for thy light is come, And the glory of the Lord is risen upon
thee. For, behold the darkness shall cover the earth, And gross darkness upon
the people:
But the LORD shall arise upon thee, And His glory shall be seen upon thee.
And the gentiles shall come to thy light, And kings to the brightness of thy
rising.
and
Isaiah19:19
In that day there shall be an altar to the Lord in the midst of Egypt, and
a monument at the
And it shall be for a sign, and a witness to the Lord of Hosts in
the land of Egypt.
makes you think that whats is being discovered in symbolism is in fact a
fulfillment of this prophecy?? I find the symbols and what they represent
interesting and is related to the great pyramid.
and
Jesus described the cap stone or cornerstone, which is missing from Great
Pyramid, as a symbol of Himself:
Matt 21:42
Did you never read in the Scriptures, the stone which the builders rejected,
the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing and it
is marvelous in our eyes (also Psalm 118:22).
Paul also describes the corner stone of the Great Pyramid as symbolizing
Christ;
Eph.2:20 Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; in whom all the building
fitly framed together into a holy temple in the Lord..
In Zechariah 4:7 it is written:
He shall bring forward the cap stone amid shouts of 'Grace, grace, unto
it..
Sounds quite prophetical and related to Adam and
his forecast.
sevens
posted
04-16-2008 03:03 PM
But with the sea level 120m lower what
would the island look like?
quote:
Cádiz is the most ancient
city still standing in western Europe[2]. Traditionally, its founding is dated
to 1104 BCE [3] although no archaeological strata on the site can be
dated earlier than the ninth century. One resolution for this
discrepancy has been to assume that Gadir was merely a small seasonal
trading post in its earliest days.
Bit to late for Atlantis, the land of the Gods,
the beginning places isn't it!!???
Cadiz was simply a trading commercial center built by the Phoenicians in around
than the ninth century and even later according to the strata of soil.
Cadiz, That's all its is Rich. I wouldn't place bets on it for Atlantis that's
for sure!
sevens
posted
04-17-2008 07:18 AM
From what I found in the UB was that
at the time of Adam they had no boats large enough carry them to the west after
the default. So they either had boats or small boats.
However after the default of Adam, the Nodite occupied 1stEden. I feel it was in
this period where sea trade in its earliest time began. In that small second sea
38,000 years ago.
It was a period of 4 thousand years which ended when Gibraltar broke. I'm
thinking that Beetle island, may perhaps hold one of these centers but it has to
be proved and the only way to do that is go out there.
Everything has to be verified by many expeditions it part of the revealing of
what is hidden and then the end will come and its all part of of your posted
pictures.
Seven
posted
04-18-2008 05:52 AM
Unusual earthquakes with interesting
numbers.
ahahahaha
sevens
.............................
EARTHQUAKE SHAKES LOCAL AREA
By Associated Press
INDIANAPOLIS —
WEST SALEM, Ill. — A 5.4 earthquake that appeared to rival the strongest
recorded in the region rocked people awake as far away as Milwaukee early
Friday, surprising residents unaccustomed to such a powerful Midwest temblor.
The quake just before 5:37 a.m. EST was centered 6 miles from West
Salem , Ill., and 66 miles from Evansville, Ind. It awakened people
in neighboring Indiana and even Milwaukee, Wis., 350 miles north of the
epicenter.
“It shook our house where it woke me up,” said David Behm of Philo, 10 miles
south of Champaign. “Windows were rattling, and you could hear it. The house was
shaking inches. For people in central Illinois, this is a big deal. It’s not
like California.”
The quake shook skyscrapers in Chicago’s Loop, 240 miles north of the epicenter,
and in downtown Indianapolis, about 160 miles northeast of the epicenter.
Residents of Cincinnati and St. Louis also reported feeling the earth shake.
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
A thought, not related but there will so many who strive to gain the world but
will loose their souls at the bitter end of the day when in there own self
realisation of the facts and where their attitude just sucks!.
My work is complete, Ive done my job, now it up to the universe.
Whatever happens from this point on just happens.
As far as I'm concerned I dont think I can go any further in this research. Im
done!
Its all up to Father now, I let go of this whole journey and release it to the
Father in the Kingdom of Heaven.
This servant cannot go any further.
I reckon we live in a very crappy world with many crappy people who talk crap
at the end of the day for there own selfish garbage purpose!
See you later world and you will need all you can get to survive this on
coming event and I certainly wont be around to help out because this world
deserves everything it bloody gets.
I feel this whole journey to the ancient places has been a complete waste of
time as no one gives a shit anyway!
And we all know that! Who cares anyway! typical man asshole!
sevens
posted
04-18-2008 12:32 PM
ahhh dream on, it already on the
record that the lowest strata of soil is only 900BC.
This doesn't tell Atlantis.
You're all dreaming on and twisting the truth to serve your shallow purpose.
What amazes you are all Christian and the way you treat 1stEden like a piece of
crap and Eden will treat you as such.
Its like an insult to the Father in preference to something that simply never
existed and you have no evidence!
sevens
posted
04-18-2008 12:39 PM
ahahahahahah some more than others.
Just working on the site that's about it and do the usual human self serving
crap and making sure my lusts are catered for, like an abnormal human
ahahahahah I suppose.
As far as knowledge is concerned forget it.
Its done!
sevens
posted
04-18-2008 12:45 PM
quote:
Hi sevens, the sound was amazing,
you could hear it rumble through, and hear it rumble away,
Amazing, I also live in a no
earthquake area and last year while I was writing about the Ancient Days when
suddenly there was a small earthquake happened.
I sorry to you for witnessing my outbursts of anger with bad language, I'm not
like Jesus in his perfection in personality. I truly believe that we are in a
real testing time at the moment. Probably more so on those that explore the
truth than those who have no idea.
Its unfortunate that certain people want to shut this work down without them
realizing it in there actions. There attacks on this work indirectly and
directly are aimed at vulnerabilities that exist in this work.
Its really on a knife edge and the road is so narrow that I cant move and
completely vulnerable and that does include income I suppose. I'm like a lame
duck in the living experience of the Father in the journey to the ancient
places.
Honestly this is a battle journey to the first places and it is on all
multiple fronts and I sit here scribing in the middle with this. A battle
front over there and this front over here and circumstances everywhere.
Its a test for me for I am no super hero like what they portray in the movies
just a normal bloke who love the Father and wants to do a good job for him in
a normal man sense with sincerity. I have weakness everywhere with only the
Lord to rest on.
Elmer I really appreciate your prayers I honestly need help and the Father can
provide this. I rest on his help.
All the best Elmer, it was a blessing to hear from you and thanks for your
encouragement.
Sevens
posted
04-19-2008 02:06 PM
Its just there are certain people that
would like to take food out of mouth in order to destroy my attempts to survive
to maintain this record without jeopardy.
Seriously, its just amazing to witness this when they have no idea what this
involves.
I scribe for Paradise and certain people just want to come against it and shut
it down.
I have to contend with that at the same time provide the record in my journey to
the places.
Its really hard not to feel anger and to let go.
Im stunned in a way.
Sevens
posted
04-19-2008 11:10 PM
For sure Ishtar we share commonality.
quote:
For instance, recently Bill Maher said we drink
the blood of a star god and are schizophrenics, we seem normal everyday but
Sunday when we partake of the blood of the sky god.
When people speak like this, it only shows that
they have a severe limited point of view and are totally blinded and write dumb
things without understanding of the spiritual intent and purpose in their final
analysis.
I suppose some people dont understand that certain methods with spiritual
purpose where designed for man to keep in memory throughout the ages and to make
him feel better about himself with the Father.
However, in this day I believe the King is here and following certain methods
are not so necessary as the bride is here in the background and is very much
involved in this process in revealing the hidden.
Its interesting that being on this journey if find myself becoming more tolerant
and accepting with understanding of all the different churches. Some people
might bag the church but I find that I Like all man from all churches. It
doesn't matter what denomination.
Man with the light of love in his heart is a good man and a man that aspires to
be the best he can with the Love of the Father for his fellow man in his journey
is a really good man and good on him.
However, I myself have been upset with the churches on a few points but in the
path to realize a better way with more defined truth with out manipulating man.
When it comes to religion no man can be manipulated and should never be
manipulated, it truly has come from his heart without compulsion but through
enlightenment and discovery on all levels.
For me I am truly happy with this path as there is no manipulation its just a
honest inquiry and truth discovery attached to physical evidence with anomalies
found in the images and in the words of books.
You know there is nothing like this great journey where everyone can be involved
no matter who they are, its completely unconditional. We can be individuals
representing our truth personalities and with unique thoughts and expressions.
We are all big family of servants and angels all involved on every level. Its
one big family of loving friends who in collaboration with thought adjuster(the
Father fragment within us) work together in synchronicity and through thoughts
hunches and discoveries being led by intuition and gut feeling and when upon
discovery, experiencing the love of the Father in the oneness of the experience,
the embrace! and sharing it with my brothers and sisters! Friends!
Where else can one experience except for the journey to the ancient places, the
journey of Faith to the Zion in my view. The togetherness in discovery of the
New Israel, the Spiritual Israel.
Open to all faiths and man is not discriminated upon. There is no where on the
planet where you can find this without division.
You know the Journey to 1stEden has not stopped, it may have slowed a little but
that is where this research came to pass.
This is was direction of Paradise even though I said a few posts ago that the
journey to ancient places was a waste time in frustration at the time.
But honestly in my heart it holds much value this journey and I believe that we
are all going to win and be highly successful in halls of Paradise! and Jesus is
leading the way. The narrow path to complete success within and without!
Dont you worry about that!
We are the ones that know whats happening in real time, the angels keep us
informed in their way personal to the individual as we express ourselves.
We are happening core of people who have varying ideas but are held together in
friendship that incorporates the love of our fellow brother.
This is really the Atlantis Rising in my view and all the places are part of the
great presentation and we are all part of history, at the cutting edge of
destiny and our names are on the record for eternity and people will be reminded
of that when the record is read by all of heaven and Paradise. All of us,
individually are on the record in the annals of Paradise and every time a
heavenly person reads the record he reads your name in participation of this
journey. For eternity!
I salute and lift up my hand and hail the king! Jesus.
Hail, King Jesus! Praise the Lord!
With a great shout of the Kings Men we raise our voices in honour to the Lord
of the Kingdom of Heaven.
Jesus! YEA! our guide to this massive revealing of the things that are hidden.
There is non other than great Jesus leading us through the Abyss to the end
into a new beginning in the destiny of mankind.
Quote
"Thou shalt travel the Seven Paths
Of the Infinite Garden"
and
"Yea, I tell thee truly,
The paths are seven
Through the Infinite Garden"
Jesus
Jesus papers, The Essenes written by the teacher of righteousness.
Revelation 22:14
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the
tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Sevens
posted
04-20-2008 08:19 AM
The great confirmation and message from the
triangle seal from the great Pyramid.
The great Message from The Ancients coming from the smallest place in the worlds
largest monument at onetime.
The ancient man pointing to the triangle chevron representative of the great
triangle Cities in the Persian Gulf.
Perhaps Maybe this could be the great mystery of the great Pyramid monument.
Could this be the fulfillment of the texts in the Bible relating to the great
Pyramid?
If you follow the arm of the ancient man through his body. It will shape into a
Sun in the background. If you connect that with the circle in the middle of the
triangle and then connect the line to the other circle also in the background of
the Pyramid you a have the co planar circles.
The little man seems to be in the background of the small second triangle/circle
chevron embossed within the larger primary triangle/circle.
The partial concentric circles appears to be in the background of the man.
Its a real ancient multi dimensional picture full of symbolism that embraces the
symbolism that underpins this journey to the ancient beginning places.
ahahahahah
Here is a thumbnail so you can see the ancient man.
Sevens
posted
04-20-2008 05:44 PM
Hi Ishtar
Very interesting link, I enjoyed reading it and thanks for the encouragement and
your thoughts.
You never know maybe his hunches of the great pyramid may come to pass.
The Bible in Stone!
Have you ever thought the Grand Gallery is the great presentation. Going through
the triangulated gallery, upwards! Like the triangle presentation over time of
the triangle cities, the presentation of our past! Our heritages of the Ages
which is ours!
Seems interesting that the man image would be seen now. I never saw it before
until I was checking out the gallery last night and thought about the 2 circles
back behind the pyramid as the image was going through its routine. I opened the
image and looked further when to find this image of a man appearing with all
this symbolism that I was familiar with attached.
Could be a trick on resolution I dont know but it is sure interesting.
I suppose thats what this journey is all about, on the run when things like this
turn up in interesting and right times.
The great Pyramid Decoded Google search turns up some interesting links too.
Its interesting that the symbolism of this journey is tucked away by a
Melchizedek believer in the smallest spot in the Great Pyramid confirming the
great mystery in this journey!
How about that for the Atlantis Gods Eh! ahahahah
what a way to reveal themselves through the ancient man and the symbols he
beholds, all the symbols.
Sevens
posted
04-20-2008 06:33 PM
Here is a very very very interesting calculation
of the slope of the great pyramid just found
The slope angle is intriguingly similar to
360°/7 = 51.42857142857...° This similarity is discussed in more detail in
Nines.
Some very interesting numbers.
Remember the universal compass symbol of the triangle and circle symbol and
splitting the triangle at each end and then bending inwards by 60 degrees, each
6 ends, then multiply by 60 each end and then you have a 360 degree circle, like
a universal compass incorporated in a multi dimensional symbol.
Combine the slope calculation with the triangle and circle chevron
symbol(universal compass) and you have a Pyramid. A fair dinkum pyramid with the
correct slope based on the circle divided by 7.
and note the sloping angle of the great pyramid. "The slope angle is
intriguingly similar to360°/7 = 51.42857142857...°" Interesting
numbers. Everything about Pyramid could be in symbolism about this journey. The
record in stone revealing itself.
And about the nines.
This is an amazing link and well worth to check out.
Nines
quote:
vvv The profound implication of all of this is
that the Moon is mathematically sized to the Earth, the choice of 360
degrees in a circle is not arbitrary, and if we multiply the radius of the
Earth (3,960 miles) by 60 (the result of multiplying the sides of the
3-4-5 triangle, and a nice complement to 360 degrees) we obtain
237,600 miles. Guess how far the Moon is from the Earth!
remember the triangle and circle relationship!
and this
With respect to the five-pointed star and internal regular pentagon,
one might note that the internal angles of the pentagon is 108 degrees
(3x36), and that 1,080 (3x360) has 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15, 18, 20,
24, 27, 30, 36, 40, 45, 54, 50, 72, and many other numbers as factors
(i.e. their quotients are integers). And obviously 1080, 3960, 5040, 7920...
all reduce to 9. Slowly we are beginning to see why geometry means “earth
measure”
19:18 In that day shall five cities in the land of Egypt speak the language of
Canaan, and swear to the LORD of hosts; one shall be called, The city of
destruction.
(What city of destruction? and what are the five cities? could it be
representative of the 5 discovered cities of our past? Is the city of
destruction the first city that activates an event? in the revealing!)
19:19 In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the
land of Egypt , and a pillar at the border thereof to the LORD.
(Could it be the great pyramid where the great sign is kept?)
19:20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts
in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the
oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall
deliver them.
(Jesus did visit Egypt and the Iknanton followers did acknowledge Jesus in
Egypt for his mission. And does the above reflect the second coming and is the
ancient man pointing to the triangle and circle symbol the great sign with
confirmation of the journey? Symbols that we are completely familiar with in
this journey to the ancient places???)
19:21 And the LORD shall be known to Egypt , and the Egyptians shall
know the LORD in that day, and shall do sacrifice and oblation; yea, they
shall vow a vow unto the LORD, and perform [it].
Very interesting verses.
Sevens
posted
04-21-2008 02:05 AM
That sounds very interesting Bluehue
But my search is not based ion names place names but on the Urantia Book and the
connections that follows.
However I found your research very interesting and fascinating and I know there
are connection there.
It all points to the Persian Gulf and all the surrounding areas. of Arabia,
Yemen, Persia and Mesopotamia.
I believe that Dilmun to the east is the Dilmun of Yemen near the heads of the
Persian Gulf if not in front of the heads on a long spit of land that ran
parallel to the Arabian Plate and parallel to the to the Persian side called the
Berbian shelf.
This was interesting
It is the same with " Your DILMUN"
the original
name may have been NOT your variation of
DILAMAN, or DALMATIA, but: DILLAMYATTI and THIS
PLACE-Name may have well been original in
HADRAMAUT in South-Arabia-Yemen too. ( YEMEN
stemms from: IO-MAN/ AYA-MAN, Do you see what I
mean ?
Although I'm quite happy with the
locations of the Dilmuns and Dalamatia City the triangle city in the Persian
Gulf.
And it shall be for a sign and for a witness
unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the LORD
because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one,
and he shall deliver them.
The thing is Isaiah was after Moses so Im
thinking this verse may pertain to another Saviour in the future. I dont think
this relates to Moses as this was written after Moses from what I can tell.
So it must be about another Saviour which I think points to Jesus. Also I feel
that Egypt in this chapter is really speaking about todays times where most of
mankind in under the bondage of Egypt in type, having the characteristics of
Modern Slavery through various methods the main one being life time and
perpetual debt with compounding interest.
I must say the tablets and the link was interesting, pity that the tablets
weren't clear enough. However, again I can make out the 3 co planar circles on
the top on one of the tablets even though its a crescent moon, the moon is still
a circle.
I also find it touching and beautiful that Jesus spent time in Egypt and honored
the followers of Iknanton's religion of the one God by his presence there. It
shows that the universe did acknowledge and honored the Melchizedek linage of
truth seekers who embedded the truth within the Egyptian culture manifesting as
the Iknanton one God religion the Aton Ra.
Its very beautiful to find all these connecting fragments which are real
splendors.
Sevens
Dear Andrew
Its a pleasure to help you any way I can to stop
this scamming, I cant stand it!
One a personal note there was some content in the
threads of emails that I sent to you that was relevant to a massive journey
revealing what was hidden, the ancient beginning cities of 2 Epochs that we
had no idea of, except in fragment form through the books of religion.
The journey to the ancient places is a
journey which is unlocking the final mystery of the planet that will create
change for a new planetary destiny. Whist all is being revealed there may be
a point in time where an event as described in many books of religion which
occur and could affect individuals as these places have all the prophecies
attached to them.
It might be a good time for all mankind including
institutions to review motivation of oneself which includes leadership. I
feel that what my research is uncovering is a review of mankind may occur that
will involve the motivation of the soul and personal truth in outcome.
What comes to mind to mind is for the Banks as a
body is perhaps be less profit orientated and perhaps more geared to helping
man overcome his debt situation in the quickest way to free him up so his
creativity and personality can expand more which will make him feel better
about himself which in turn provides a happier family life and contributes to
a happier civilisation for our future new destiny.
I say this as friend to help out all man no matter
who he is. If there is something pending for mankind as written in the books
and Im the journey discovering all the places then its my duty to let man
know including leadership so they can review, adjust in attitude and prepare
for a new direction.
My gut feelings tell me that the Universal fathers
are present in this journey to the first places and are here for a review.
I also want to add that what is occurring will
smash all the doctrines that drive terrorism. The way is through discovery,
truth and enlightenment with no violence and that is the true way of
Paradise! There is no other way than the right and good way showing love to
your fellow brothers and sharing.
Just note that this is the answer to the
destruction of terrorism driven by false interpretations and the truth lays
in these ancient places which will confront violence straight in the face
through religion itself and will highlight the error of terrorism simply
through discovery of the cities being led through the books which brings in an
expanded truth. The journey is all documented on the run as we go and at the
same time will form the greatest presentation ever to behold mankind all
linked by symbolism.
The common symbolism that connects three
ancient cities are the same symbolism that underpins all institutions and
societies that have evolved in our culture throughout the past. This
symbolism is present everywhere and is part of the mystery of the Great
Pyramid. Really speaking what is occurring has all to do with everyone.
In conclusion, keep aware, keep note and note that
I work on faith being led in the books and I document on the run what I feel
and lay my discoveries for man as this belong to man.
Andrew you dont have to reply to this that fine
but just keep it in the back of your mind. If you like to explore it a little
you have my link in the emails.
All the best Andrew
Sevens
posted
04-22-2008 05:33 AM
isaeyeallseeing
For sure it would be all of us could go out there and verify out research and
discoveries.
As far as I'm concerned the research is good and the locations are there and
seen in the images, the only thing that is required is the mula.
Thats the only obstacle that I can see.
One thing you may want to explore is ifermer, its a French research company that
may have data on beetle island. It might be worth to pursue for your research.
All the best in your endeavors.
Sevens
posted
04-22-2008 06:18 AM
Hi
Here is an interesting crop circle that also appears to have all the same
symbolism as the seal on the plug of the shaft in the Queens chamber.
As I look at the crop circle I can see a triangle circle chevron, 3 co planar
circles seen in any 3 points of the triangle intersecting with the middle
circle. I can see 3 concentric circles in the image, the outer circle the first,
the circle ring in the inner circle the second and the inner area of the circle
is a circle in itself.
Very interesting symbolism which has commonality with the seal image in the
Great pyramid.
and the triangle circle chevron in the Great Pyramid for comparison.
Sevens
posted
04-22-2008 02:16 PM
Hi Ishtar
How is it going, looks like you been digging around, I havent went through all
your work yet. But I was checking out some link and noticed this image of
Marduk.
Note the 3 coplanar circles of 1stEden on the dress of Marduk and yet each
circle is a concentric circle. ahahahahah!
And note: Marduk is on the water or is that
submerged in the Abyss? Marduk comes from the Abyss! and his message with
symbolism.
Also his headdress is full of circles in which
the coplanar arrangement can be seen across his crown.
Here is what the UB says about Marduk.
quote:
PAPER 95 - THE MELCHIZEDEK TEACHINGS IN THE
LEVANT, Oct 19 2000
* line 34: The Salem teachers greatly reduced the number of the gods of
Mesopotamia, at one time bringing the chief deities down to seven: Bel,
Shamash, Nabu, Anu, Ea, Marduk, and Sin. At the height of the new
teaching they exalted three of these gods to supremacy over all others, the
Babylonian triad: Bel, Ea, and Anu, the gods of earth, sea, and sky. Still
other triads grew up in different localities, all reminiscent of the
trinity teachings of the Andites and the Sumerians and based on the belief of
the Salemites in Melchizedek's insignia of the three circles.
* line 44: It was the Salem missionaries of the period following the rejection
of their teaching who wrote many of the Old Testament Psalms, inscribing them
on stone, where later-day Hebrew priests found them during the captivity and
subsequently incorporated them among the collection of hymns ascribed to
Jewish authorship. These beautiful psalms from Babylon were not written in the
temples of Bel-Marduk; they were the work of the descendants of the
earlier Salem missionaries, and they are a striking contrast to the magical
conglomerations of the Babylonian priests. The Book of Job is a fairly good
reflection of the teachings of the Salem school at Kish and throughout
Mesopotamia.
and
PAPER 96 - YAHWEH--GOD OF THE HEBREWS, Oct 19 2000
* line 27: In conceiving of Deity, man first includes all gods, then
subordinates all foreign gods to his tribal deity, and finally excludes all
but the one God of final and supreme value. The Jews synthesized all gods into
their more sublime concept of the Lord God of Israel. The Hindus likewise
combined their multifarious deities into the "one spirituality of the gods"
portrayed in the Rig-Veda, while the Mesopotamians reduced their gods to
the more centralized concept of Bel-Marduk . These ideas of monotheism
matured all over the world not long after the appearance of Machiventa
Melchizedek at Salem in Palestine. But the Melchizedek concept of Deity was
unlike that of the evolutionary philosophy of inclusion, subordination, and
exclusion; it was based exclusively on creative power and very soon influenced
the highest deity concepts of Mesopotamia, India, and Egypt.
and this one that Links Marduk to Adam in Legend
PAPER 92 - THE LATER EVOLUTION OF RELIGION, Oct 19 2000
* line 107: with the Hebrews it was, in general, Adam's return as a
material ruler. In Babylon the god Marduk was a perpetuation of the Adam
legend,the son-of-God idea, the connecting link between man and God.
Following the appearance of Adam on earth, so-called sons of God were common
among the world races.
I thought that was absolutely interesting and by
design links the 3 co planar circles with Adam/Marduk.
and here is the connection of Marduk to 1stEden in symbolism through the 3
coplanar circles.
Its all connected to 1stEden in Symbolism
quote:
Ub
Adam's return as a material ruler. In Babylon the god Marduk was a
perpetuation of the Adam legend
and here is some more data of the co planar
circles at the base of the Hill which match the the top of the Acropolis Hill in
1stEden.
Just simply fascinating and awesome!
Interesting measurements Ishtar
Just a thought
quote:
Excerpt from the text:
"Measurements of the base of the etemenanki: here are the length and width to
be considered: 3x60 is the length, 3x60 is the width , measured in
standard cubits (1 elbow length = about 50 cm). Its dimensions are therefore:
3x3=9 ; 9x2=18
3x60 width and 3x60 length = 360
degrees, a circle. From a square to a circle.
and then if you divide 360/7 you get the slope angle of the Pyramid. 51.2
degrees I think.
The if you get the triangle separate each and bend each end 60 degrees x 6
inwards you get a circle. 360 degrees.
Do I see a relationship of the circle, triangle, square and the Pyramid entwined
by 360 degrees, the circle and transmutation into other shapes with precision
with the common number being 6, 60 and 360 in multiples of 10.
Its like how do we make a circle out
of a square or circle into a triangle and what slope!
The Greek sources
This tower of Bel-Marduk is also known to us from Greek sources: Diodorus
Siculus (Book II, 7-10) records that "The temple of Bel erected in the
center of the city ... was extraordinarily high... and the Chaldeans did
their astronomical work there." Herodotus (I, 178-182) gives its measurements:
"This temple is square, and each side is two stadia in length. In the centre
is a massive tower, of one stadium in length and breadth; on this tower stands
another tower, and another again upon this, and so on up to eight." The
Babylonian text confirms this information.
Its interesting that the foundations of first and
second Babel submerged in the Persian Gulf is in a circular foundation within a
triangle chevron which were canals beside the temple.
In the above description I believe is the place of the 3rd attempt to erect a
Babel via the UB and this was called probably called Esagila.
quote:
This temple was called Esagila, "the
temple that raises its head". The text first gives a double
description of the base of the multi-tiered tower built inside the city
walls or ziggurat, then describes the main temple, and, finally, gives the
measurements of the multi-tiered tower, called Etemenanki, "House of the
Foundation of Heaven and Earth"- the "Tower of Bable" in the
Bible (Genesis 11,
The Italics in the above seems to be quite
prophetical
quote:
"the temple that raises its head"
"House of the Foundation of Heaven and Earth"
"Tower of Bable"
Even in the following seems to infer
another attempt in rebuilding Babel on the same foundations.
quote:
“Mardouk, IE lord, ordered
to me in connection with Etemenanki, the tower on floors of Babylon, which before my time had fallen in ruins, to ensure its base in
the center of the lower world and its top, to make it similar to the sky”.
This rebuilding of Babel on the same
circular foundations is supported by the UB.
The 12 gates of the middle court could
very well be reminiscent of the 12 gates that protected 1stEden at the Isthmus
connected to the mainland.
quote:
The names and locations of the
twelve gates of the Middle Court (described in 11QT 39:11-13[4]) were
apportioned to each of the twelve sons of Jacob , a pattern repeated
in the gates of the Outer Court as well.[5]
Sevens
posted
04-22-2008 04:41 PM
quote:
[18:102] - The Pythagorean relationship
represented by a 3-4-5 right triangle is displayed in the dimensions of the
King's Chamber. The east wall diagonal is 309", the length is 412", and
the long central diagonal is 515". However, the Pythagorean relation was not
identified until 497 B.C.
Interesting relationship with the 345 triangle and the Kings chamber
quote:
SEVENS
The number 7 figures prominently in the Book of Revelation.
[39:88] - The height of the Grand Gallery is 7 times the average height of the
other passages.
[39:88] - The Grand Gallery has 7 overlapping courses forming its sides.
[39:88] - The Jubilee passage is 1/7th the length of the horizontal
passage to the Queen's Chamber.
[39:88] - The Queen's Chamber is a 7 sided room (gable roof is 2 sides)
[39:88] - The volume of the peaked area of the Queen's Chamber above the walls
is 1/7th the volume of the rest of the chamber from the floor to a level equal
to the ceiling of the passageway which enters the chamber.
Ahh interesting.
Gets more intriguing all the time
quote:
[14:37] - The cubic capacity of the coffer =
same as Ark of Covenant made by Moses {Exodus 25}
[70:272] - The Ark of the Covenant was 2.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 Sacred Cubits. Guessing
the thickness of the sides as 1.8 PI gives a volume of 71,282 cubic pyramid
inches vs. the volume of the coffer of 71250 cubic pyramid inches.
and this one
quote:
[14:34] - The length of the diagonals of the
floor of the Antechamber are 666 PI. {Revelation 13, mark of the Beast}
[14:76] - There were 144,000 casing stones {Revelation 7, servants of God
given seals during the apocalypse}
It seems to me that the great pyramid is a story
of this time and links to the final Seventh mystery as well.
Its amazing that the great seal was found in the most hidden spot and linked to
the ancient places through the same symbols and the ancient man.
The Pyramid is probably all about this journey verified from the smallest and
most hidden place that links to a unknown history. I'm sure its prophecy set in
stone by Imhotep.
What a genius!
Moving on
quote:
[11:159] - The red granite is fairly rare and
identical with that of Mt. Horeb {Mt. Sinai}, the mountain on which Moses is
said to have received the Ten Commandments.
[14:36] - The empty coffer in the King's Chamber is made of red granite
[14:43] - The ancient Hebrews used units of measure that were the same length
as the pyramid inch and Sacred Cubit.
[14:35] - Red Granite appears in the pyramid apparently to mark special events
in conjunction with prophetic events related to the Jews.
[11:159] - The red granite is fairly rare and identical with that of Mt. Horeb
{Mt. Sinai}, the mountain on which Moses is said to have received the Ten
Commandments.
[14:36] - The empty coffer in the King's Chamber is made of red granite.
[4:251] - A portion of the floor in the Antechamber to the King's Chamber is
red granite and corresponds to the "unit dimension" of the King's Chamber.
[14:64] - A red granite stone, triangular in shape, appears on a false door at
the intersection of the Ascending and Descending passages. This corresponds to
the prophecy year of circa 1486 B.C. (Hebrews depart Egypt under Moses)
and this about the FIVE number, sometimes I
wonder whether this relates to the 5 locations of the ancient past. Dalamatia
City, Vans highland headquarters, 1Eden, Dilmun North Eastern Persian gulf, and
1st and lower Susa.
I just wonder about that.
quote:
FIVES
[39:45] - There are 5 sides to a pyramid and 5 corners.
[39:45] - There are 5x5 pyramid inches in a Sacred Cubit.
[39:45] - The floor of the Queen's Chamber is on the 25th (5x5) course of
blocks.
[39:45] - The floor of the King's Chamber is 5x5 courses higher than the
Queen's Chamber.
[39:45] - The niche in the wall of the Queen's Chamber is 5x3 ft. high, it is
corbelled with 5 stories, the top is 5x5 inches across, and the inner edge is
5x5 inches from the perpendicular center of the wall containing the niche.
[39:45] - The King's Chamber has 5 courses of stone in each of it's 4 walls,
and a total of 5x5x4 total stones in it's walls.
[39:45] - The King's Chamber has 5 chambers above it.
[39:45] - The coffer in the King's Chamber has 5 solid sides.
[39:45] - The King's Chamber is 5x10 times the volume of the coffer.
[39:45] - 5 cubic pyramid inches of earth of average density has the same mass
as 1/(50x50) of the coffer's volume of water at a temperature that is 1/5th
the difference between freezing and boiling.
[39:45] - The coffer's interior volume is 50*50*50 cubic pyramid inches times
5.7, divided by 10. (5.7 is mean earth density)
Each five locations are all connected to each other and that make a one in
truth. Physically it forms a five sided pyramid. Each side of the pyramid is a
storyboard of each location into the oneness of a presentation.
An inter dimensional relationship which speaks to
me of a spiritual and physical relationship that encompasses the great pyramid.
and
quote:
[11:160] - The only markings in the pyramid
are in the Descending Passage at 482 PI inches from the pyramid face. This
represents the last year the Pole Star was aligned with the passage, 2141 B.C.
Except for the great triangle/circle chevron seal
on the plug and its associated symbolism and messages the seal contains thanks
to the ancient man.
ahahahahahahahahahah!
I have to laugh at that one! Thanks ancient man!
Really speaking its a monument of our earth, the
past truth and the future destiny. Its a story about us and our destiny.
Here is the details locked in the Pyramid of our Earth.
quote:
from: McGraw-Hill Encyclopedia of Astronomy,
1982, ISBN 0-07-045251-2
Aberration of Light = 20.496 seconds of arc
Average Days in Calendar Year = 365.2425 days (400 year leap-year cycle)
Light Year = 5.879 x 10**12 mi
Mass of the Earth = 5.975 x 10**24 kg = 6.586 x 10**21 tons
Mean Distance from Sun = 149,597,870,000 meters = 92,937,200 mi.
Mean Distance to Moon = 238,247 mi
Mean Earth Velocity = 66,600 mi/hr
Mean Earth Density = 5.53 g / cu. cm = 90.620464 grams / cu. inch
Mean Earth Equatorial Radius = 6378.160 km = 3969.96 miles
Mean Earth Polar Radius = 6356.775 km = 3956.65 miles
Mean Sun Radius = 6.960 +/- .001 x 10**5 km = 432,470 mi.
Moon Synodical Month = 29.5305882 days
Precession of Equinox = 25,800 years (approx)
Sidereal Year = 365.25636 days
Tropical Year = 365.24220 days
Velocity of Light = 186,291 mi/sec
from: Science and Technology Desk Reference, 1993, Gale Carnegie Library
Mean Circumference of Moon = 6790 mi
Mean Circumference of Earth = 24902 miles at equator, 24860 miles at poles
Mean Distance to Moon = 238,857 mi
Mean Diameter of Moon = 2159 mi
Mean Diameter of Earth = 7926 miles at equator
Mean Distance from Sun = 92,955,900 mi
Moon Sidereal Month = 27.32166 days
Velocity of Light = 186,282 mi/sec
from: Physics, 1966, D. Halliday & R. Resnick, ISBN 0-471-34524-5
Mean Radius of Earth = 6.37 x 10**6 m = 3960 miles
Mass of earth = 5.98 x 10**24 kg
Density of water (@ 20 deg. Celsius) = 1.00 x 10**3 kg/ cu. meter
Pi = 3.14159 26535 89793 23846+
Derived Values from Reference Constants:
Mean Earth Radius = (3969.96 + 3956.65) / 2 = 3963.305 miles
Earth Surface Area = 4 * Pi * (3963.305 mi)**2 = 197,389,867 sq. mi.
Earth Volume = 4/3 * Pi * (3963.305 mi)**3 = 260.772 x 10**9 cubic miles
Its a truth monument!
and is a witness to this journey to the ancient places in the beginning times as
far as I'm concerned!
and this one note the 3/60th error again the 3s and 6's ahah
quote:
[14:72] - Aligned True North: The Great Pyramid
is the most accurately aligned structure in existence and faces true north
with only 3/60th of a degree of error. The position of the North Pole
moves over time and the pyramid was probably exactly aligned at one time.
sevens
posted
04-22-2008 05:40 PM
quote:
The Prophet has already asked: "Who is left
among you, that saw this house in its first glory? (ii, 4). According to
Septuagint he afterwards says: "The last glory of this house shall be
greater than its first glory."
To the Prophet, therefore, there was but one and the same house of Jehovah
from Solomon to the time of Messias,
built always in the same place and according to the same plan, that of
the Tabernacle. We may therefore admit three different temples, and this
article will describe: I. That of Solomon; II. That of Zorobabel; III. That of
Herod.
I wonder if the three different temples is about the temples where the tree of
life was housed in different periods?
Consider we are on the journey directly to the first temples of the Father. The
consummation (discovery) of the knowledge of the temples including locations
brings in the oneness of the truth which yields a house or temple greater than
the former as in the ancient temples of the tree of life of the past. This
journey to the ancient places is part of the action of the Messiah Jesus and
Melchizedek and is related directly to the oncoming of the Messiahs! This has
been declared!
I just want to note that the Odes of Solomon and
the Mystery of Solomon by St Ephraim speaks specifically and in detail about
this journey to the ancient places and this journey is a rebuild of Solomon's
temple of Wisdom. The rebuilding of the temple with the greatest mystery
on earth!
On the run
quote:
Many writers admit three temples
materially different. Now as the Prophet Aggeus (Vulgate, ii, 10) says of that
of Zorobabel: "Great shall be the glory of this last house more that of the
first" , because of the coming of the Messias (v, 8-9),
How true I can see that positively! occurring in
this journey and all related to the Messiah as confirmed.
It appears that Messiah is becoming more obvious in this journey! and as seen in
the books and now it makes all sense!
and here is some interesting numbers associated
with Solomons Temple.
quote:
Priests' Court and House of God
The Court of the Priests formed a rectangle of one hundred and eighty-seven
cubits from east to west and one hundred and thirty-seven cubits from
north to south [Middoth, II, 6 (fig. 3)]. To the west stood the house of
Jehovah and to the east the altar of holocausts. The sanctuary was reached by
a stairway of twelve steps (2), which terminated in a majestic porch
one hundred cubits high and the same in breadth (3). A door without leaves
twenty cubits wide and forth high led into a vestibule eleven cubits
wide. According to the Mishna this doorway was flanked by two square-shaped
pillars each formed of ten cubes measuring four cubits on the
sides. On these two pillars rested a sort of entablature formed of five
oaken beams, separated from each other by square stones set on a line with the
IU thought it was interesting some of thiose
numbers.
and this the Holies of Holy.
quote:
The richly-decorated chamber contained the
altar of perfumes before the entrance to the debir, north of the table of
proposition and south of the seven-branch candlestick . It was not so
well lighted or aired as that of Solomon.
YEA!
Sevens
posted
04-22-2008 06:14 PM
They call this a Babylonian world map
but look at the symbols.
I see co planar circles within Concentric circles perhaps the Melchizedek
insignia?? in reflection or a Map of our Solar system perhaps. Its interesting
to see the connection of the concentric and co planar circles once again, the
duality in symbols both connected.
Sevens
posted
04-22-2008 08:00 PM
In the distant horizon of destiny may
lay some good news.
Praise the lord of the Universe! and the Father of the Super Universe!
Again, the passage through which Christ
"descends into hell," the natural grotto below the Pyramid, has a lower
entrance forming a junction with this long entrance passage of the Pyramid, at
a little distance before that entrance passage arrives at the bottomless pit.
Unfortunately also, this "short distance" is not specified. It shows however,
that the resurrection is due a little before Satan is bound. And if that
"short distance" should prove to be 40 inches, that also would
harmonize with the prophetic period which makes the resurrection due
40 years before "the times of the Gentiles" end. At all events, these
measures approximate to, and wonderfully harmonize with the prophetic periods.
MELCHIZEDEK
I found the number 40 interesting! This journey
could be the process of the 40 inches or reflective of the forty day test which
extended itself as found written in the path of the journey.
Interesting!
Here is another crop circles with all the symbolism and key numbers.
Beware with the birds and false presence and broken promises.
Much pain but there is still time.
Believe there is some good out there.
We oppose deceit and the conduit is closing.
I wonder if the following molecule is somehow related to a 3 strand DNA which
maybe responsive to the tree of life.
I just wonder!
Answer from the stars
Apparently the message is in Hebrew and it says
On the 9th the dragon is Born??
It could mean the 9th month September
or 2009...maybe!
On the 9th the dragon is Born??
apparently dragon means knowledge, the knowledge of the serpent is born on the
9th...maybe? or the knowledge of the Serpent is BORN on the 9th.
Persons born within these date ranges can be said to have been born in the "year
of the Dragon," while also bearing the following elemental sign:
* 16 February 1904 - 3 February 1905: Wood Dragon
* 3 February 1916 - 22 January 1917: Fire Dragon
* 23 January 1928 - 9 February 1929: Earth Dragon
* 8 February 1940 - 26 January 1941: Metal Dragon
* 27 January 1952 - 13 February 1953: Water Dragon
* 13 February 1964 - 1 February 1965: Wood Dragon
* 31 January 1976 - 17 February 1977: Fire Dragon
* 17 February 1988 - 5 February 1989: Earth Dragon
* 5 February 2000 - 23 January 2001: Metal Dragon
May is the month of the
Dragon. The time of the Dragon is from
7:00 a.m. to 8:59 a.m.; their direction of
orientation is east-southeast. The
Dragon's color is aquamarine.
Remembering that the conduit is closing, another confirmation by our other
brothers of the end times as we perceive it in the books and the signs that we
see.
Anyway September seems like a month to watch out for in accordance with the
prophecy of the our other brothers.
It could be the 9th day of a month or it could be the nine month September or it
could be 2009.
Maybe this September 08 or 09 is a good time to keep alert and it is not to far
from the finish of the Olympic games, games of slaughter.
Apparently the 9th is when the knowledge of the dragon comes to pass.
Would that mean that an event occurs where all truth is layed out and truth
activates like in a rapture....when the knowledge of the Dragon is revealed
through the physical event of rapture??? and it happens on the 9th which could
be a day month or year??
Rapture being the conduit which is closing as we get closer to the truth of the
matter?? The then great realisation occurs.
FLASH/GONE
Seems to make sense to me.
Surely Ishtar we must be getting close to some sort of change now we appear to
be getting closer to the final consummation.
I wonder if the time is purely related to discovery, when we discover things
relevant we get closer.
I wonder what else is there is to realize in the last mystery.
Even with the submerged cities we dont have to go
there to know the truth.
sevens
posted
04-23-2008 02:56 PM
That makes complete sense to me Wirelessguru
for sure.
But I feel there must come a point of something occurring in the process, the
impression, the obvious, the action and the witness in the revealing.
Maybe our other brothers put the signs of the logistics of change but in the
beforehand but its only when we realize the truth of the matter in the final
construct that it occurs the revealing.
Then it occurs.
I just think the more we contemplate, discover the closer we get.
The conduit could be the Stargate as Ishtar mentions and Stargate is closing in
the other brother scenario of the end times. The Stargate conduit could be the
rapture in a sudden event where all is revealed in the ACTION.
Personally, I hope it happens VERY VERY SOON.
I cant wait for the consummation of rapture or Stargate escape from this doomed
selfish system. I feel that all the selfish gains of those left behind will be
lost and destroyed.
Just recently I was spammed by this imposter posing as a banker who wants to
give me money.
He was using the banks name. I wrote to the bank and informed them. I also
informed them that there is great change to occur and it appears to be linked to
the ancient places. I mentioned that the common symbol of the cities is the
triangle/circle, the same symbol that under pins all the institutions.
I mentioned it would be a good time for the Banks to review to be less profit
orientated and more focussed on how to lift debt of mans back in preparation of
a new destiny of the planet.
I also mentioned that this journey to the places are all part and parcel of
prophecy and I mentioned that this is the recipe that will smash terrorism.
I wrote the letter as a friend with good advise, the letter was not aggressive
or angry.
They wont respond but I hope it helps. Whilst the banks are seen as the enemy we
have to have, still they could do much to make this planet a better place for us
all.
I think Banks should never be profit orientated. Never! They should be non
profit organizations only there help man without profit.
Hey, I also mentioned that the Universal Fathers are present in this journey to
the ancient places and are reviewing all motivation on the soul level and this
includes the leadership of the Banks for the future destiny!
I just want to say that the compound interest formula is a complete disaster for
mankind. Look at the results to realize the failure of compound interest,
compounding for a life time of debt.
Hope the dont get there goons on to me.
Sevens
posted
04-23-2008 03:40 PM
Fair enough, thats true, the civilisation busting
revolving door cycle mainly driven by lust of power with greed and selfishness.
A perfect recipe for self destruction.
However, in this situation I feel something very different will occur that will
mark a new beginning, reset to default but with ultimate truth in the
demonstration, also in the world destiny there will be physically present
representatives from Paradise and the Melchizedek who will be physically
accessible.
In the future world we are to receive much help from the universe. Help that you
can see and touch.
I believe this will destroy the civilisation busting revolving door symptom.
In the future it will be very similar to the times of 1stEden and Dalamatia City
before any default where the Gods are present physically and accessible who have
the right soul motivation.
The reason for the self destruction of all civilisation is because of wrong soul
motivation, ultimately.
I believe that in the future destiny of mankind, if I'm am right about this
period will be a one world government but not headed by Man, NO WAY MAN! Man is
no shape to lead a planet! Man has already proved himself to be failure in
leadership....look at the spiritual results of man in leadership!
It will be a one world government of the Father headed by representative of the
Father.
The Melchizedek will be the head of the One world Paradise Government and will
have Paradise personalities physically present. The elect who prove themselves
in this time period before change will also help out in leadership and will be
supping of the tree of life! because they are trustworthy and have the right
stuff within there soul.
The new Paradise world will be vastly different to what we have today and all
spiritual and physical rebellion we taken of the planet! Selfish people will not
survive at all! All selfish gains made now will be lost and taken away in final
consummation!
The One world government of man....forget it ! it will never happen because the
leadership of the planet is so hopelessly self absorbed in power and selfishness
and is totally on the wrong path, utterly hopeless. Just look at the results
where everything is profit motivated. Everything from graft, corruption to
profit generating! Profit motivation is unsustainable and that is true as we
have lost the planet and nature already.
And tell me what is man going to do that is that different in his so called One
World government.
Everything will remain the same for the small people. This one world government
led by man is just a scam of power and will have no real economic benefit, we
will still be under the bondage of the one world government. Nothing will change
except things will get worse.
Its only a bid for increased influence and power for those who lust after it.
Its just a power corrupt ploy! A deception! another deception for the kit back
of deception.
Man cannot be trusted in world leadership, he cant even run his own family
successfully in many cases without being an a__hole. He cant even run a church
without some fear driven manipulation in many cases to.
The only One world government that will be
effective is the one world government of Paradise headed and guided by Paradise
and for the next thousand years will be a time for the rehabilitation of man
physically and spiritually in preparation to the ages of light and life, the
Seventh Epoch.
Thats what we are heading for but we need help
now for to achieve that distant goal!
sevens
posted
04-23-2008 04:40 PM
You know this is what Atlantis is all
about, real effective change and betterment for man with the help of the Gods so
to speak!
Not some silly shallow theory with nothing to show coupled with shallow words.
Atlantis is all about real destiny of man with the gods! working together as a
team in the personal sense.
This is the real Atlantis Rising effective transition for man and his destiny.
This is what Atlantis is all about...Destiny! and positive future. Making this
planet a real Atlantis planet of the Father in the future.
Sevens
posted
04-24-2008 06:26 AM
Essentially I believe that there will
be a new for old in the process. Like Gold to replace the Bronze in truth as
discovered.
I reckon this will be a new Macro cycle that mankind has never experienced in
our days. I believe there will be a direct visitation from Paradise and our
other brothers in collaboration.
I feel that this visitation will be definitely beyond the control of mankind and
the process has been activated and the universal Fathers are directly involved
in this.
However, in saying this you know that I go by faith and from what I discover in
the journey in the focalization to the ancient places where all the information
is layed out on the run as we go in the journey!
I also feel that this visitation in its initial process will activate the
preservation of plan of truth, beauty and goodness. In other word all the
goodness according to the Paradise standards of behavior will be taken of the
planet and preserved.
The people left will go through the ringer so to speak and all false doctrine
and error will be smashed to pieces. The high and arrogant who use power as tool
of manipulation for there own selfish purpose will be brought low and humbled!
But remember, before that happens the all the powers in leadership will close
ranks on mankind for control foreseen in revelation.
Currently this planet is not going anywhere, its is unsustainable for the
future.
Why, we are running out of food already which is another great sign!!!!
Whilst leaders are wasting time and resources on war there people starve. We
have wasted to much time with war and at the same time depleting our ability to
survive a disaster or a great change for the planet.
The prophecy that comes to mind is the prophecy of Joseph who told the Pharaoh
to store food for the next 7 years for the next 7 years after will be drought
and famine.
A type for today as I feel we have gone through the Seven days that explains why
the leaders have built there Doomsday seed vault, for there own preservation. I
believe this to be another sign of mans activation of self preservation.
Another Sign!!!!!
Happily the world goes by all ignorant in there self rubbish not knowing that
they are all headlong into disaster in the appearance of the Paradise Fathers
and no government will tell them for out of fear.
I'm sure the government is aware of this as I have wrote to them. Regardless,
man has to be warned that if there is something pending he should be told and
that there is a simple escape plan based on simple faith of a child open to all
with faith.
This is way beyond doctrine. Nothing to do with doctrine but truth, the pure
Jesus truth in simplicity. Being yourself with sincerity and truthfulness living
the words of Jesus.
Anyway, I'm going on but this where the journey leads me after much personal
discovery and the message and symbols that connect to the places.
I feel that all of us will be successful here in the outcome and in the
beforehand. Even the smallest halfhearted flicker of faith is counted for
righteousness. However, this message is not for those who spurn and mock in
ignorance without looking into the facts of the matter.
Those are the ones that will have to go through the experience, the refining.
Hey this isn't about me at all, its all about the reader and his soul. I'm just
delivering the best consistent truth I can find in my journey and sharing the
best evidence I can find.
I know I have spoken about presenting this journey in the movies as so forth but
in reality it may NOT come to that in the short term. This movie is a living
reality of this journey and is the living movie, not a static 2 dimensional
movie but a movie in virtual time involving every individual on the planet. We
are all part of the SAGA!
The Saga of the God and Man and self realisation.
all the best
Sevens
posted
04-24-2008 06:52 AM
I think that you must mean that it
will be yet another new "creation" macro cycle, which, of course, is a TOTALLY
different thing all together! Maybe this is what you mean by the "1stEden"!!!???
In the future destiny it will be a 1stEden by comparison to what we have today!
I feel we have to go to the past to understand the future direction Paradise is
nudging us in realisation.
This is a good thing for us that may seem a little disastrous for some but the
alternative is self annihilation and we have the capacity for that. If this
event should never happen we would all destroy ourselves in time. One way or
another. I am so sure of that.
Power against power, divide upon divide we see it everyday and the results.
Currently religion is out of touch they sense something is pending but how does
it happen? Eh! the process.
quote:
then this also means that an overall
25,920 year era macro cycle is also the same exact thing as an overall
"creation" macro cycle!!!
Sounds like a great time create a
macro cycle of all proportions.
ahahahahzh
quote:
Unfortunately I have no evidence to
provide you that would supports this! It is more like a gut feeling that I
have... [Smile]
BTW, this is also exactly where the creationist's rubber meets the evolution
road, so to speak...
Ahh dont worry about it, were all
running on gut feelings and intuitive feelings. I'm sure the evidence will
unfold at the right time. When it does it will be the truth.
Whatever the outcome that will be the truth! Even in this journey whatever the
outcome will be the truth of the matter be it right or wrong!
Inst it good that we can share this and find commonality and test things,
doesn't the great strides mankind occur in this spirit rather than through
conflict.
I reckon in this sharing as friends in the journey we are simply making history
and all our names are recorded in the annals of Paradise concerning this journey
to transitional change and it is full of AWE and WONDER with absolute Sevenfold
splendour. The kind of thing that builds great faith in man as he touches
Paradise in his own personal way through the instrument of the ancient places
and its related connections of truth!
Its very beautiful!
Sevens
posted
04-24-2008 05:22 PM
Or perhaps realizing the Father of all things
from within through the action of the Father fragment within and co action of
the Holy Spirit in the experience of the personal journey of ourselves as
individuals.
Hey wireless thanks for your kind words man. I appreciate it and thanks for
talking with me and sharing your thoughts. I appreciate the company in the
journey could be a journey of a lifetime with brilliant results. I'm hoping for
that! Hoping for things unseen but seen in the beforehand.
quote:
UB It is the presence of the divine Spirit, the water of life, that
prevents the consuming thirst of mortal discontent and that indescribable
hunger of the unspiritualized human mind.
Spirit-motivated beings " never thirst, for this spiritual water shall be
in them a well of satisfaction springing up into life everlasting. "
Such divinely watered souls are all but independent of material environment
as regards the joys of living and the satisfactions of earthly existence.
They are spiritually illuminated and refreshed, morally strengthened and
endowed. P.381;2
How so true is that. This is exactly what has
kept me going the whole time. Its is the spiritual refreshment of being led in
the books to great discoveries and spiritual refreshment that comes out of that
and to share and express myself freely about the experience.
Just in this verse says it all "It is the presence of the divine Spirit, the
water of life, "
Oh and this is so true to. I know this one personally.... for sure! Such
divinely watered souls are all but independent of material environment as
regards the joys of living and the satisfactions of earthly existence.
Oh Man O man this is so true to "They are spiritually illuminated and
refreshed, morally strengthened and endowed."
When I write and feel this thread of truth. I experience this all the time, its
like being focalised on a thread of truth within the currents of Paradise, its
like being on river moving within the currents of Paradise discovering things in
the journey. Identifying from within truth fragments, Collecting from over here,
to there and over there discovering threads of truth all combining into a
oneness, on a journey one truth in the verification.
Its a very beautiful thing! You know and the Sevenfold personalities involved
are all friends and we all spiritually love each to further cause of truth and
righteousness. Its just like The Father is personally involved and we are all
friends in a sublime equality of friendship even though The Father is vast and
incomparable. But yet in the journey its on equal level of friendship in the
journey and discovery of truth. Its an interesting thought and quite sublime and
supernal in my view!
Anyway that was a fantastic fragment I found on a UB Unity forum.
All the best
sevens
sevens
posted
04-24-2008 06:01 PM
Hey Wirelessguru thanks man, thats
nice.
I feel shy and bashfull ahahahaha
You know wireless Im at a cross road I have to raise funds and keep this office
going until the final consummation. Whenever that is.
I was thinking of a truth back for sale that could consist of a number items
pertaining to this journey of man. Could consist of a number of long version
presentations on each city of truth and few CDs of truth with other items.
I must say Ive had trouble with the idea of commercializing Dalamatia City.
However, I found regarding the Office and its trade and commerce department in
Jane Lead (15th century seer) was "Do what you have to do". In essence I saw
approval as was foreseen by her in this current junction. The interesting thing
was that after I opened the office of the Messiah on my website I found this
huge cache of truth from her regarding the Office and the opening of it and
about the journey. I was completely impressed.
Regarding price and reward well the way I see it, its all about the journey to
the ancient places and the verification of it. Its purely focalised on the truth
and keeping the function of the office opened in a peaceful secure fashion in
full flow of the journey to the places.
Oh well see what happens.
posted
04-24-2008 08:31 PM
I just want ot come back to this
quote:
19:19 In that day shall there
be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt , and a
pillar at the border thereof to the LORD .
(Could it be the great pyramid where the great sign is kept?)
19:20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the
LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt : for they shall cry unto the LORD
because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great
one, and he shall deliver them.
I just want ot come back to this
quote:
19:19 In that day shall there
be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt , and a
pillar at the border thereof to the LORD .
(Could it be the great pyramid where the great sign is kept?)
19:20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the
LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt : for they shall cry unto the LORD
because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great
one, and he shall deliver them.
I see so much in this now, in focalisation to the
journey, for example "an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of
Egypt , and a pillar at the border thereof to the LORD
In relation to this journey I see the altar as the journey to the ancient places
and the truth about cities. It is a presentation given to the Lord on the altar.
Which appears to be acceptable unto the Lord as the Saviour does come. This
Altar or presentation seems to end at the Great Pyramid in confirmation, in the
Midst of Egypt and the Pillar is the Great Pyramid wherein a symbol was
discovered which confirmed the symbolism of the presentation to the Lord, this
presentation. The great Pyramid, the Prophetic monument is at the then border of
upper Egypt? The stone end time story!
and the following really blows me away
"19:20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the
LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt Exactly in the case of this journey of
the ancient cities leading to the great sign in the Pyramid, the triangle/circle
seal, the co planar circles, partial concentric circles and the ancient man. THE
SIGN of the Great Pyramid in confirmation and and for a witness, the
witness is the witness of the journey to the ancient places and is the witness
who discovers the great Triangle/Circle sign and its attached symbolism which
confirms his personal journey to the ancient places in connecting symbolism. The
witness is the discoverer. The fulfillment of the above texts.
The witness is the witness "unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt"
This journey is the witness to the Lord with all the hidden things revealed.
The best part is yet to come. For this witness and discoverer of the great Sign
seal in the great pyramid, in his message does call upon the Lord for truth of
the matter and assistance. This is the Lords reply " for they shall cry
unto the LORD because of the oppressors,(this I know) and he shall
send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them."
The Lord sends a Saviour and that Saviour is none other than Jesus and
Melchizedek. They respond to the journey, the message and the call for
assistance!
I think this truly an event and the pyramid is a complete record and monument of
this time. NOW!. This journey in my mind is the fulfillment of the spirit in the
message of the great pyramid! The great physical monument of Mankind with the
whole Sevenfold journey contained in design and construction related to the
ancient cities in symbolism to the previous Epochs.
This is the Atlantis Rising!
he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them."
Just fabulous this what I expect to come, a great Saviour, our Saviour in truth,
knowledge and demonstration! and I believe Jesus and Melchizedek will come to
fulfill this beautiful Paradise Sevenfold Journey!
They will be faithful! I believe this to be the final outcome of this journey,
acceptable to the Lord of Hosts. Given and presented on the Altar before the
Lord in the throne room, the Holy of Holies in spirit and in truth!
Well, Praise ye the Father of Hosts, thats what I reckon!!! 1000%
ahahahahahahahah!
The great Pyramid is a monument of the past and
the resurrection of truth in stone and the story of the resurrection in the
timeline and in the beforehand like in this journey! Its a living prophecy
in stone!
Sevens
Re:
Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:53 am
Quote:
DEAD SEA PSALMS
PSALM #6
I give thanks unto Thee, O Lord, for Thou
hast freed my soul from the pit,
And drawn me up from the slough of hell to
the crest of the world. So walk I on uplands unbounded and know
that there is hope for that which Thou didst mold out of dust to have
consort with things eternal.
For lo, Thou hast taken a spirit distorted by sin, and purged it of the
taint of much transgression, And given it a place in the host of holy
beings, and brought it into communion with the Sons of Heaven.
Thou hast made a mere man to share the
lot of the Spirits of Knowledge,
To praise Thy name in their chorus and
rehearseThy wondrous deed before all Thy
works.
I, that am molded of clay, what am I?
I, that am kneaded with water, what is my worth?
I, that have taken my stand where wickedness reigns,
that have cast my lot with the froward;
Whose soul has lodged like a beggar in a place of wild unrest;
I, whose every step is amid ruin and rout--
On what strength of mine own may I count,
When corruptions snares are laid, and the nets of Wickedness spread,
When far and wide on the waters Frowardness sets her drags,
When the shafts of Corruption fly with none to turn them back,
When they are hurled apace with no hope of escape; When the hour of judgment strikes,
When the lot of God's anger is cast upon the abandoned,
When his fury is poured forth upon dissemblers, When the final doom of His rage falls on
all worthless things;
When the torrents of Death do swirl, and there is no escape; When the rivers of Belial burst forth
from their banks--
Rivers that are like fire devouring all (. . .),
Rivers whose runnels destroy green tree and dry tree alike,
Rivers that are like fire which sweeps with flaming sparks, devouring all
that drink their waters--
A fire which consumes all foundations of clay, every solid bedrock;
When the foundations of the mountains become a raging blaze,
When granite roots are turned to streams of pitch,
When the flame devours down to the deep abyss,
When the roots of Belial burst forth unto hell itself; When the depths of the abyss are in
turmoil and cast up mire in abundance,
When the earth cries out in anguish for the havoc wrought in the world,
When all its depths are aquake, and all that is on it quails and quivers
in mighty havoc; When with His mighty roar God thunders
forth,
And His holy welkin trembles, and His glorious truth is revealed,
And the hosts of heaven give forth their voice, And the world's foundations rock and
reel, When warfare waged by the soldiers of
heaven sweeps through the world,
And turns not back until final doom,
I give thanks unto Thee, O Lord, for Thou
art my strength and my stronghold,
Thou hast delivered my soul from all works of unrighteousness.
For Thou hast put truth in my heart and righteousness in my spirit,
Along with all gifts of Thy wisdom;
And hast crushed the loins of them that have risen up against me. Thou bringest me cheer, O Lord, amid the
sorrow of mourning,
Words of peace amid havoc, stoutness of heart when I faint,
Fortitude in the face of affliction.
Thou has given free flow of speech to my
stammering lips;
Stayed my drooping spirit with vigor and strength;
Made my feet to stand firm when they stood where wickedness reigns.
To transgressors I am a snare, but healing to them that repent,
prudence to the unwary, temperance to the rash.
Thou hast made me a reproach and a derision to them that live by deceit,
But a
symbol of truth and understanding
to all whose way is straight.
I am become an
eyesore unto the wicked, a slander on the lips of the unbridled; scoffers
knash their teeth. hahahahah
I am a song unto transgressors, and the hordes of the wicked rage against
me; Like ocean gales they storm which, when
their billows rage, cast up mire and dirt.
Yet, Thou hast set me as a banner in the
vanguard of Righteousness, As one who interprets with knowledge
deep, mysterious things; As a touchstone for them that seek
the truth, A standard for them that love
correction.
To
them that preach misguidance I am but a man of strife;
But to them that see straight, a very symbol of peace.
To them that pursue delusion I am but a gust of zeal;
Men that live by deceit roar against me like the roar of many waters.
Naught is there in their thoughts save mischievous designs.
When opening the fount of knowledge to all that have understanding, Thou hast set a man's life to rights
by the words of Thy mouth, And hast taught unto him Thy lesson
and put understanding in his heart.
But they thrust him back into the pit.
In place of these Thy gifts they offer a
witless folk stammering lips and barbarous tongue.
Wandering astray, they rush headlong to their doom.
Col 7: 13-14 [ and all] his [works] You have determined before ever You
created him.
Col 9: 7-8 By You[r] wisdom [You have] e[stablish]ed the successive
[generations] and before You created them You knew {all} their works for
ever and ever.
Col 9: 23-25 What can I say that is not known and declare that is not told?
Everything is engraved before You with the ink of remembrance for all the
times of eternity, for the numbered seasons of eternal years in all their
appointed times. Nothing is hidden, nor does anything exist apart from Your
presence.
Just beautiful.
sevens
sevens
posted
04-25-2008 02:20 PM
Just Beautiful,
Ernest Moyers is just spot on and is a prophet for this time and the Father
works with him. No doubt about that!
This man in his work is just beautiful a real man of the Father in the end
times.
Mal 3:1-5
3:1 "Behold, I send my messenger to prepare the way before me, and Yahweh
whom you seek will suddenly come to his temple; the messenger of the
covenant in whom you delight, behold, he is coming, says Yahweh of hosts. 2
But who can endure the day of his coming, and who can stand when he appears?
"For he is like a refiner's fire and like fullers' soap; 3 he will sit as a
refiner and purifier of silver, and he will purify the sons of Levi and refine
them like gold and silver, till they present right offerings to Yahweh.
4 Then the offering of Judah and Jerusalem will be pleasing to Yahweh as in
the days of old and as in former years.
5 "Then I will draw near to you for judgment; I will be a swift witness
against the sorcerers, against the adulterers, against those who swear
falsely, against those who oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow
and the orphan, against those who thrust aside the sojourner, and do not fear
me, says Yahweh of hosts.
And from the Land of Sinim, the great sunburnt country. YEA! Where the truth of
the Ancient places, the forgotten heritages come from.
Right on! and just look at the advise and the other components. This is a
fulfillment I am positive of that now!
You know "to cause to inherit the forgotten
heritages." All about the journey to ancient places and those with faith,
we will inherit these forgotten ages, the crowns these are our inheritance!
This is the journey of the End Times and it all comes from Australia, the land
of Sinim, the land in the East at the ends of the world and points to this lone
outpost of Sevenfold truth.
Sevens
Re:
Rice Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:54 pm
Quote:
Revelation 6:5-6 "When the Lamb opened the
third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and
there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales
in his hand. Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living
creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for
a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not
damage the oil and the wine!" "
I thought this was completely relevant to the times we are in now. What a true
verse for this time.
Perhaps the vials are all simultaneous rather than lineal in the timeline,
just a thought.
"do not damage the oil and the wine!""
especially the wine because man is going to need a few stiff drinks when he
realizes he missed the opportunity after the fact where in fact prophecy is
true and so is the Father.
Sevens
Re:
Rice
ahahahahaha I have to laugh at the one, the drinks bit hahaha
I agree with you the horses are out of the barn in full gallop. The food
shortage to me is a huge sign. That is definitely signs of things to come.
It shows you how vulnerable we really are concerning weather and trends.
Sevens
Re:
Rice Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:07 pm
Just look at this one in the confirmation
especially in the bold.
Quote:
At the time of my favor I will answer you; in
a day of my salvation I will help you. I have kept you.
I will give you as a covenant for the
people, to rouse up the earth, to cause to inherit the forgotten
heritages.
Saying to the prisoners, 'Come forth,' and to those who are in darkness,
'Show yourselves.' They shall feed along the way; on all the bare heights
shall be their pasture.
They shall not hunger nor thirst; neither scorching wind nor sun shall
smite them.
For he that has compassion on them (he)
shall lead them, even by the springs of water shall he guide them.
And I will make all my mountains a way, and my highways shall be exalted.
Behold, these shall come from far: and lo, these from the north and from
the west; and these from the land of
Sinim.
Sing, for joy, O heavens; and exalt, O earth! Break forth O mountains into
singing. For Yahweh has comforted his people, and will have compassion on
his afflicted.
And from the Land of Sinim, the great sunburnt country. YEA! Where the truth
of the Ancient places, the forgotten heritages come from.
Right on! and just look at the advise and the other components. This is a
fulfillment I am positive of that now!
You know "to cause to inherit the forgotten
heritages." All about the journey to ancient places and those with
faith, we will inherit these forgotten ages, the crowns these are our
inheritance!
This is the journey of the End Times and it all comes from Australia, the land
of Sinim, the land in the East at the ends of the world and points to this
lone outpost of Sevenfold truth.
However, there is another great component to
this journey and it lays in the Coastlands another great witness to 1stEden. I
believe the components combine forms the the double kingdom that became one
reflective of the Kingdom of the Crowns of Semah and Denah!, in type and
literal in this time.
Sevens
posted
04-25-2008 04:53 PM
and
quote:
Isaiah 50:4-9
The Lord GOD has given me the tongue of those who are taught, that I may know
how to answer the weary. Morning by morning he wakens me, he wakens my ear
to hear as those who are taught.
The Lord GOD has opened my ear; I was not rebellious, I did not turn back.
I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to those who plucked the
beard. I hid not my face from shame and spitting.
For the Lord GOD will help me; therefore I will not be dishonored. I have
set my face like flint, and I know that I shall not be put to shame.
He who vindicates me is near; who will contend with me? Let us stand
together. Who has a charge against me? Let him approach me.
Behold, the Lord GOD helps me. Who will declare me guilty? Lo, they shall
all wear out like a garment; the moth will eat them up.
who plucked the beard. Wow how
annoying ahahahaha
Anyway that was another great confirmation to the journey and the experience as
in the witness overtime and what has said daily! For years now.
sevens
posted
04-25-2008 05:15 PM
quote:
Matt 24:27 ― For as the lightning comes from
the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the
Son of man.
and an excerpt from the Damascus document from
the Dead Sea Scrolls.
§
XXVIII. But here it is to be understood, that these do first rise but in the
Child-like State, and so grow up as Christ himself did in Wisdom and
Stature .
This being as the time of their Minority, they cannot suddenly reach to
the full possession of their Inheritance and Kingdom: but as Princely Spirits
they will be brought up, and served, according to their high Spiritual
Birth-Degree. As Moses was brought up in all the Learning of the
Egyptians, as the Son of Pharaoh’s Daughter, so shall these Heaven-born
Children be taught, disciplin’d and instructed in all the divine Arts in the
Royal Court of God their Father, and the new Jerusalem their true Native
Mother.
From which may be expected the great Deeds and Wonders to be acted forth,
after the manner of Moses, and of the Prophets and Apostles: and that in a
degree more eminent and Glorious than all has been heretofore; because it
will be the manifestation of the great Day of Christ’s setting up his Kingdom
and Reign here upon Earth, over all Nations and Kingdoms, which yet never has
been: but the Prophesies hereof are now at hand to be fulfill’d.
Therefore it is foreseen and shewn, that this fiery Horn does
forerun the Seventh Angel’s Sounding;
thus to awaken and raise the Dead.
The extent and power of which will be such, and the Motives so strongly
prevailing as to take hold of the great Potentates, that are in
possession of temporal Honours and Riches, Rule and Government.
All of which they will be convinc’d are much inferiour, and below what
the Children of this Kingdom shall come to inherit.
Where there shall be no Crossin their Crowns , no fear of loss or
suffering, nor dread of Death. So many are the
Prerogatives that do attend this State,
that they cannot be number’d.
For they have here their Pass out of the Land of Curse, and all
Evils and Maladies, into the Land of all Blessing and Plenty, Peace and
Joy.[/B]
their Pass out See they have pass out sin the Kingdom of Heaven.
ahahahahehehehe
And being
it is a Matter of that Moment and Concern , wherein God himself
requires the clearing up of the deeper, and yet more hidden Reserves of his
Good Will and Love : So by the pure Dictate of his Spirit,
I shall go on to fix the Pillars and Foundation of
the Creation by the Second ADAM, by whom all
things are to be renewed
Quote
Prerogative
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A Prerogative is an exclusive legal right given from a government or state and
invested in an individual or group, the content of which is separate from the
body of rights enjoyed under the general law of the normative state. It was a
common facet of Feudal law.
In modern popular culture usage, the word prerogative has come to mean
the egalitarian condition of the right for anyone's
own self-determination, e.g. that it is
"one's prerogative" to do as they please.
In relation to this what the state is relates to the realm of Paradise, the
submerged countries of the temples of the Father where the Office of the Messiah
is located. In the abyss, its a submerged state newly created and resurrected
home of the Universal Fathers. The crowns are the revealed cites of the 1st and
2nd temples. The symbol is the circle! beyond number means eternal!
Quote
Where
there shall be no Cross in their Crowns , no fear of loss or suffering, nor
dread of Death. So many are the Prerogatives that do attend this State, that
they cannot be number’d
I have enjoyed this freedom in the journey! and have declared much.
The link is all about this time and about the journey to the ancient places.
quote:
Isaiah 52:13 "Indeed, My servant shall prosper,
Be exalted and raised to great heights…
Just so he shall startle many nations.
Kings shall be silenced because of him
For they shall see what has not been told them,
Shall behold what they never have heard."
and
quote:
Psalm 37
34 Wait on the Lord, and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit the
land: when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it. 35 I have seen the
wicked in great power, and spreading himself like a green [8] bay tree. 36 Yet
he passed away, and, lo, he was not: yea, I sought him, but he could not be
found.
37 Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is
peace . 38 But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of
the wicked shall be cut off. 39 But the salvation of the righteous is of the
Lord: he is their strength in the time of trouble. 40 And the Lord shall help
them, and deliver them: he shall deliver them from the wicked, and save them,
because they trust in him.
An here is a link of our great friend
and leader Messiah Melchizedek.
I just praise the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven for all these beautiful gifts
of truth.
and
quote:
Isaiah 40:3
A voice rings out:
‘Clear in the desert A road for the Lord!
Level in the wilderness
A highway for our God…
The Presence of the Lord shall appear
And all flesh shall behold –,
For the Lord Himself has spoken. …
A voice rings out ‘Proclaim!’ …
Ascend a lofty mountain,
O herald of joy to Zion;
Raise your voice to with power, …
Raise it have no fear;
Announce to the cities of Judah Behold your God (Melchizedek)
I believe the highways from the
wilderness is all about the first and former cities of the Father.
Sevens
posted
04-26-2008 02:50 PM
quote:
However, the verse is deliberately taken out of
context. Now, why is this? Because these preachers know that most of their
congregation do not read the Bible, and depend upon them to "teach" them,
because most say it is too hard to understand the Bible
I thought the above was interesting.
What can one say if people dont put effort to find the truth themselves, the
above seems like a classic case of real sheep and how could they find God for
themselves remembering that the Pastors have much to learn which is demonstrated
in revelation.
And what if the Pastor is not quite right or even off in his thoughts and
interpretation.
How could that be tested if no one reads the Bible relying on others for truth.
It may seem that those in this level only go to church for play it safe but put
no effort into understanding the Bible themselves. Perhaps this is a measure the
majority in church.
sevens
posted
04-26-2008 02:50 PM
quote:
However, the verse is deliberately taken out of
context. Now, why is this? Because these preachers know that most of their
congregation do not read the Bible, and depend upon them to "teach" them,
because most say it is too hard to understand the Bible
I thought the above was interesting.
What can one say if people dont put effort to find the truth themselves, the
above seems like a classic case of real sheep and how could they find God for
themselves remembering if the Pastors are downloading all there prejudice's and
who have much to learn which is demonstrated in revelation.
And what if the Pastor is not quite right or even off in his thoughts and
interpretation.
How could that be tested if no one reads the Bible relying on others for truth.
It may seem that those in this level only go to church for play it safe but put
no effort into understanding the Bible themselves. Perhaps this is a measure of
the majority in church.
That's a shame that there is real slackness of people going to church when it
comes to the researching the bible for themselves. It also demonstrates to me
that the bible is to hard for people to understand and maybe looks confusing and
maybe people need special guidance or teaching to overcome this. I believe this
is a real problem as people thereby become a parrot for the Pastor rather than
finding the Father for themselves.
Not to mention all the wrong perceptions and judgments that can come to pass.
Personally, I believe the Urantia Book and the Bible working together can solve
this problem whereby in the study, people get a better prospective of religion
and in many cases you can simply read it and see the evidence without all the
repetitive fluff and emotionalism. Religion simplified for the normal man with
definition that can be demonstrated in the discovery. Like, you can read it and
see it followed by straight forward information which provides real definition
and provable information in most cases like in the journey to the ancient
places.
Simple read and see it stuff for the
normal on the streets without going overboard in emotionalism and
judgment/division on others not to mention the exclusivity of the Holy than
though attitude!
Praise the Lord Elmer, thank you for your words of
encouragement for me in this great almighty journey of truth and discovery of
mankind. I am touched and feel blessed, this is what brotherhood of the body
of Jesus is all about and this precise friendship within the body that will be
successful in the end times.
Working for the Father in friendship all together fulfilling roles of soughts
with truth, beauty and goodness ever coming closer to the final consummation
of truth with all the books opened with there contribution. From all the
prophets of old and to our day having there role.
Everything else might seem overwhelming but the peace in this journey of truth
and discovery is beyond words and to me it is a manifestation of the Father.
I believe all the ancient cities are highways of truth that met there final
confirmation in the Great Pyramid built by Imhotep. We are witness to the
linking symbolism with understanding on a journey before the altar of the Lord
and of the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven.
There are many preservation schemes being undertaken at this time but the
preservation scheme of the Father is a scheme open to all in faith and Jesus
provided the answer to success in this, in the beforehand in the journey to
great Seventh Mystery in my view, from my personal experience in this
documentation.
I believe we are all being lifted into new and great heights supping of the
high pastures. Like in Switzerland ahahahah!
Anyway I think this is a beautiful journey of the highest degree and I feel
that many things have been fulfilled scripturally and through extended
information throughout out the books related. I must say The Urantia Book was
invaluable to the journey and it did begin with the Urantia Book but in a
sense in the first instance it started with the Bible, through proverbs when I
used to read it at the age of 8 or 9 and wanted then to be the wisest man on
earth and I remember that, those times reading all the proverbs, Psalms and
Ecclesiastes and attempting to apply then in my daily life at school. OOOH
but then I lost my way somewhere! ahaha but always kept in touch with God
throughout the life journey at various times.
And you know what!! If all being true and correct in the witness of the
uncovering the revealing the former ages and if I'm right with the Seventh
mystery attached then I would have to be a wise man in this time and mind you
Still learning! ahahah!. What a journey! and the Father pulled through 100%
that all stemmed from those early childhood years of just me the bible and the
Father with the angels, already then. So you see it came and began from the
prophets of old from the Great Bible and glory be Eh! from the Lord in the
Bible and the spirit from within. Later one I went through Bible college at
various times keeping in touch with the Melchizedek and Jesus truth of Old and
of New.
Only to find the Urantia Book and that explains, from my life experience why I
could understand the urantia Book really well, it resonated deep down within
me. I feel my heart click on straight away, I read it without stopping it
took me six weeks. It was one of the greatest times of my life! and that
occurred on the Western Pacific on a fishing boat called the M/V Adriatic Sea
in the Western Pacific its interesting there is a Dalmatia province in the
Adriatic Sea. How about that for twist! That year we caught more fish than
any year and broke records. I remember flying, circling around fish thinking
about the UB and what I was reading and hearing within me and saying to myself
Jesus' words "today a fisherman of fish and tomorrow and fisherman of men"
and that is true! Glory be and great blessing to all the fishermen I worked
with, they were all good people.
Its beautiful. When I come to the part of the ancient places and read about
1stEden in the UB on the boat, I just wanted to discover 1stEden. Under a
full moon light night on the flight deck I wondered about about the ancient
places and desired to find the places, already then. I remember my dedication
to find it on that night of realisation and as it happened I got involved over
time, another story I provided a service to the journey to 1stEden. What a
blessing! Glory be to the Father. Praise the Lord for his grandness.
And look where we are! at the end of the great journey in connecting symbolism
that lead us to the shaft in the queens chamber to a seal on the plug with
understanding in relation to the previous cities of the past. A journey in
the books that began on 2003 thats very same period the Book discovery of
Atlantis was released and the first of this record began on the first
expedition when simultaneously I was doing a presentation a UB conference
linking Plato and the UB and other Books like Enoch to 1stEden.
It was a fine presentation and you know there was something happening in the
room, I could feel it while I was talking, simultaneously Robert Sarmast was
on the radio presenting himself about the about his book. It was a
simultaneous event about the one place. I feel the high level representatives
of heaven where there in there own way. Afterwards some people was speaking
about how to get more readership I mentioned that all will unfold in a
mystery, even then. I didn't know how though as its a journey of faith and
faith building! Thats the demonstration of faith and the Father on the run!
He will reveal on the run causing it to happen through circumstance as seen in
the beforehand!
I believe the Victory is ours, today....right now! We have won in truth and
found truth! and it led to all the books in understanding with the guidance of
the Messiahs of Jesus and the Melchizedek.
The witness of the journey regarding domains and public began around 2005-09
. I wonder if we are in the a thousand two hundred and threescore days of
the witness?? or if this related to the witnesses? All I know there is
nothing like this on the planet!
Also one of the witnesses must be unto a witness in the midst of Egypt. As
the Great Pyramid involves a witness and and an altar like a dedication.
Could be one and the same witness?? Interesting connection.
According to my calculation based on 2005-09 1230 days takes us to 3rd month
09 around about, but it could be forward to!
Ah just a thought!
Have we come to the
final conclusion to the mystery early? or are we in the right time frame? The
test is in the time to come and its good that we can test these things and see
for ourselves in our own perception of truth.
6 And Moses spake unto the children of Israel, and every one of their
princes gave him a rod [1] apiece, for each prince one, according to their
fathers' houses, even twelve rods: and the rod of Aaron was among their
rods. 7 And Moses laid up the rods before the Lord in the tabernacle of
witness.
8 And it came to pass, that on the morrow Moses went into the tabernacle
of witness; and, behold, the rod of Aaron for the house of Levi was
budded, and brought forth buds, and bloomed blossoms, and yielded almonds.
9 And Moses brought out all the rods from before the Lord unto all the
children of Israel: and they looked, and took every man his rod. 10 And the
Lord said unto Moses, Bring Aaron's rod again
before the testimony, to be kept for a token against the rebels;
[2] and thou shalt quite take away their murmurings from me, that they die
not. 11 And Moses did so: as the Lord commanded him, so did he. 12 And the
children of Israel spake unto Moses, saying, Behold, we die, we perish, we
all perish. 13 Whosoever cometh any thing near unto the tabernacle of the
Lord shall die: shall we be consumed with dying?
and
Psalm 89:37
It shall be established for ever as the moon, and as a faithful
witness in heaven. Selah.
and
Proverbs 12:17
He that speaketh truth sheweth forth righteousness: but a false
witness deceit.
and
Proverbs 14:5
A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies.
and
Proverbs 14:25
A true witness delivereth souls: but a deceitful witness speaketh
lies.
and
Proverbs 21:28
A false witness shall perish: but the man that heareth speaketh
constantly.
and
Isaiah 19:20
And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the Lord
of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the
Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour,
and a great one, and he shall deliver them.
and
Getting hot
Isaiah 43:9
Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the people be assembled:
who among them can declare this, and shew us former things?let
them bring forth their witnesses,
that they may be justified: or
let them hear, and say, It is truth.
and
Isaiah 43:10
Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my
servant whom I have chosen: that ye may
know and believe me, and
understand that I am he: before me
there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
and
Isaiah 43:12
I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no
strange god among you: therefore ye are my
witnesses, saith the Lord, that I am God.
and
Isaiah 44:8
Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and
have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside
me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
and
Isaiah 44:9
They that make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their delectable
things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses;they
see not, nor know; that they may be ashamed.
and
a high honour
Isaiah 55:4
Behold, I have given him for a witness
to the people, a leader and commander to the
people.
and
Jeremiah 32:10
And I subscribed the evidence, and sealed it,
and took witnesses, and weighed him the money
in the balances.
and
Lamentations 2:13
What thing shall I take to witness for thee?
what thing shall I liken to thee, O daughter of Jerusalem? what shall I
equal to thee, that I may comfort thee, O virgin daughter of Zion? for
thy breach is great like the sea: who can
heal thee?
and
Micah 1:2
Hear, all ye people; hearken, O earth, and all
that therein is: and let the Lord GOD be
witness against you,the Lord from his
holy temple.
and
Matthew 18:16
But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that
in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
and
Matthew 23:31 (Read all of Matthew 23)
Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves,
that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
and
John 5:32
There is another that beareth witness of me;
and I know that the witness which he
witnesseth of me is true.
and
John 8:18
I am one that bear witness of myself,
and the Father that sent me beareth witness of
me.
and
John 15:27
And ye also shall bear witness, because
ye have been with me from the beginning.
and
John 18:37
Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou
sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I
into the world, that I should bear witness
unto the truth. Every one that is of the
truth heareth my voice.
and
Acts 2:32
This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof
we all are witnesses.
and
Acts 26:16
But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have
appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and
a witness both of these things which thou hast
seen, and of those things in the which I
will appear unto thee;
and
Acts 26:22
Having therefore obtained help of God, I
continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying
none other things than those which the prophets
and Moses did say should come:
and
Romans 3:21
But now the righteousness of God without the
law is manifested, being witnessed by the
law and the prophets;
and
Romans 8:16
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our
spirit, that we are the children of God:
and
Hebrews 2:4
God also bearing them witness, both with signs
and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost,
according to his own will?
and
1 John 1:2
(For the life was manifested, and
we have seen it, and
bear witness, and shew unto you that
eternal life, which was with the Father, and was
manifested unto us;)
and
Revelation 11:3 (Read all of Revelation 11)
And I will give power unto my two witnesses,
and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred
and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth
Here is an addition to the post regarding "Perogatives" and completely
liberty/freedom in doing what we please in this journey. This to me shows
complete trust in what in how we present this as the Father gives his trust to
the elect!
Here is the addition to the above link to the Jane Lead post.
Quote
Prerogative
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A Prerogative is an exclusive legal right given from a government or state
and invested in an individual or group, the content of which is separate
from the body of rights enjoyed under the general law of the normative
state. It was a common facet of Feudal law.
In modern popular culture usage, the word prerogative has come to mean
the egalitarian condition of the right for
anyone's own self-determination, e.g. that it is
"one's prerogative" to do as they please.
and Royal Prerogative
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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The Royal Prerogative is a body of customary
authority, privilege, and immunity, recognised in common law and,
sometimes, in civil law jurisdictions possessing a monarchy as belonging to
the King or Queen alone.[1] It is the means by
which some of the executive powers of government, possessed by and vested in
a monarch with regard to the process of governance of their state, are
carried out. Individual prerogatives can be abolished by Parliament,
although in the UK a special procedure applies.
In relation to this what the state is relates to the realm of Paradise, the
submerged countries of the temples of the Father where the Office of the
Messiah is located. In the abyss, its a submerged state, newly created and the
resurrected home of the Universal Fathers on this planet. In the physical
sense! The crowns are the revealed cites of the 1st and 2nd temples. The
symbol is the circle associated symbols! beyond number means eternal! The Ream
of Paradise is the State of Heaven on Earth in the submerged countries of the
Temples! Where the Lord comes from and confirms!
Praise the Lord!
Quote
Where there shall be no Cross in their Crowns, no fear of loss or suffering,
nor dread of Death. So many are the Prerogatives
that do attend this State, that they cannot
be number’d
The above is about this journey again! another fulfillment in the action in
the beforehand in this individual journey with collaboration from the prophets
of the past all people.!
I have enjoyed this freedom in the journey! and have declared much and has
blossomed into trees, fruit and Almonds in the witness! so all the murmuring
will stop within the body.
The journey could be by Royal prerogatives could be by the Universal
Government prerogative, Jesus prerogative. A universal Revelation by Royal
decree, sidestepping the evolutionary way at this time in the consummation of
truth.
It also means been given the keys of Heaven
including its power!
A big responsibility and given to a mere man as
he is risen up to heights of Heaven in revelation in the realms of the Sons of
Heaven supping in their pastures.
Glory be the Lord in the Kingdom of Heaven! Eh! How about that trust if the
Father in his children guided by his Son Jesus! The great shepherd!
Its like here you go Son, you take the keys for
a time! That's what's its like!
You know the key may lay in a 3rd expedition to
1st Eden where the 3 co planar circles can be established on top and at the
base of the Acropolis Hill. That would then point to the 1stTemple in
Dalamatia City, Persian Gulf in another great presentation and confirmation.
That would be the ultimate witness wouldn't it!! That would confirm this
journey 1 mile deep of Cyprus. That maybe the great witness and demonstration
of the journey and could very well be the activation in the physical. The
great confirmation. A witness that stems from the 2nd temple 1stEden and leads
to the 1st temple in Dalamatia City and the Great Pyramid through Babel/Dilmun
through the Nodite and eventually the Andite culture (Nodite/Adamic
admixation) in later Dilmun close to our times and then to the Egypt when
Dilmun/Babel was destroyed thus the Great Pyramid and its seal of the ancient
times in symbolism parallels as realised.
I suggest the sooner we get out there, the better!
Well, I declare to the Ancients of Days and ask the Arch Angels and all
Seraphim's and midwayers of the Sevenfold Mission to open up the path to the
3rd expedition to 1stEden and I pray for assistance for the witnesses in the
great confirmation of the ages of mankind, our heritages. Forthwith,
immediately! please! Humbly! This petition has been declared by the Sevens of
Urantia/Earth 606 and by the record of his witness to the places of ancient
times.
The
Third Heaven
"In the third heaven, he saw the Tree of Life, with four streams, of honey, milk, oil, and
wine, flowing from its roots.
The Place of the Righteous is in this heaven
and the Terrible Place where the wicked are
tortured.There was also the 'place on
which God rests when he comes into Paradise'."
- Richard L. Thompson, Alien Identities - Ancient Insights into Modern
UFO Phenomena
It was "a place such as has never been known for the goodliness of its
appearance. And I saw all the trees of beautiful colors and their fruits
ripe and fragrant, and all kinds of food which they produced, springing up
with delightful fragrance. And in the midst (there is) the tree of life, in
that place, on which God rests, when He comes into Paradise. And this tree
cannot be described for its excellence and sweet odor. And it is beautiful
more than any created thing."
- 2 Enoch
The
top of high Hara is circled by the stars, moon and sun, from which shower
down upon earth both light and life-giving waters. The sun coming out to
warm, enlighten and bring day first to the three, and half of the fourth
worlds in the west, and then, leaving them as in darkness, it illumines
the three and a half on the eastern side of the peak. All the while the
'waters' continuously flow in a wondrous, spiraling sweep through
and about the seven karshvars. The Vendidad describes how these cosmic
waters and lights periodically issue anew from the peak of Mount Hara,
pour down to the sea, Vourukasha,
and from there flow forth as two mighty rivers, one to the east and one
to the west. These circle the earth and are cleansed, to return first to
the Vourukasha sea, and then to the peak of the mountain, again to descend,
again reascend, in perpetual motion:
. . . rising up and going down, up the aerial way and down the earth,
down the earth and up the aerial way:
Thus rise up and roll along! thou in whose rising and growing Ahura
Mazda made everything that grows.
Up! rise up, ye deep Stars, that have in you the seed of waters;
Rise up above Hara Berezaiti, and produce light for the world (and mayst
thou [O man!] rise up there . . ), along the path made by Mazda, along the
way made by the gods, the watery way they opened. -- Vendidad, Farg. XXI,
iiic
and
and 3 co planar circles
The above description could very well be this location in Iran. The Kopet
Daugh!
Possible reflection of Vans knowledge through this culture in the highlands of
Iran.
Quote
The
Persians believed that the world was divided into seven regions or karshvar
(keshvar in modern Persian, which means country). These regions were created
when rain first fell upon the earth. Humans inhabited the central region (Khvanirath),
which was as large as the other six put together. The Bundahishn 1 describes
it as follows:
On the nature of the earth, it says in revelation, that there are thirty and
three kinds of land. On the day when Tistar [god of rain] produced the rain,
when its seas arose therefrom, the whole place, half taken up by water,
was converted into seven portions; this portion, as much as one-half,
is the middle and six portions are around; those six portions are
together as much as Khvaniras. The name keshvar is also applied to them
and they existed side by side .... [XI, 1-6]
and this fragment
While Alborz or Mount Hara was the source for both light and water, the
Vourukasha Sea is described in the Avesta as the gathering point of water.
This important sea occupied 'one third of the earth, to the south, on the
skirts of the Harburz' [Vendidad 3 21, 66], and was fed by a huge river,
the Harahvaiti. Forming the boundaries of the inhabited world were two great
rivers, which flowed out from the sea to the east and the west. The
rivers were cleansed as they passed around the earth and, when they returned
to the Vourukasha, their clean water was taken back up to the Peak of Hara.
In the middle of the Vourukasha grew the very first tree, the source
of all plants, described in the Avesta (Yasht 12, 17) as the Saena Tree,
Tree of All Remedies or Tree of All Seeds. This tree held the nest of Saena
(Senmurv in Pahlavi, Simurgh in Persian), the legendary bird. Growing
nearby was another important plant, the 'mighty
Gaokerena', which had healing properties
when eaten and gave immortality to the resurrected bodies of the dead.
and this could be a distant reflection of Van and the fall of Adam and Eve.
Quote
The
home of the bull was on the bank of the River Veh Daiti (Veh Rod), which
flowed to the east from the Vourukasha Sea. On the opposite bank
lived Gayomartan (Gayomard in Pahlavi, Kiyumars in the Shahnameh). In Yasht
13, 87 he is described as the first man, as wide as he was tall and as
'bright as the sun'. Gayomartan was slain by Angra Mainyu, but the
sun purified his seed and, after forty years, a rhubarb plant grew from
it. This plant slowly became Mashya and
Mashyanag, the first mortal man and woman. The Evil Spirit,
Angra Mainyu, deceived them and they turned to him as the creator, thus
committing the first sin. Their world was now filled with corruption and
evil, instead of peace and harmony. It was only after fifty years that they
were able to produce offspring. However, the first twins were eaten by their
parents. After a long period of childlessness another set of twins was
finally born, and from these sprang not only the
human race, but also specifically the Iranian peoples.
And this river flows to the West into the
Caspian Sea if you follow Worldwind, its a literal written clue to the
location of Vans highland headquarters and Valley of the Seven division flows
into the East /West River identifying the Valley of Van where the tree of life
was kept in between time of the destruction of Dalamatia City and 1stEden of
Which Van built and identified by the 3 coplanar circles in eacjh location.
Definitely Along the ATREK RIVER in that Narrow
valley in the Kopet Daugh! Like Star TREK ahahaha
Origins
The Qajar rulers were members of the Quvanlu clan of the Qajars,
originally themselves members of the Oghuz branch of the larger Turkmen
peoples[4][5][6]. Qajars first settled during the Mongol period in the
vicinity of Armenia and were among the seven Qizilbash tribes
that supported the Safavids [7]. The Safavids "left Arran (present-day
Republic of Azerbaijan) to local Turkish khans" [8], and, "in 1554 Ganja was
governed by Shahverdi Soltan Ziyadoglu Qajar, whose family came to govern
Karabakh in southern Arran" [9].
Qajars filled a number of diplomatic missions and governorships in the
16-17th centuries for the Safavids. The Qajars were resettled by
Shah Abbas I throughout Persia. The great number of them also settled in
Astarabad (present-day Gorgan, Iran) near the south-eastern corner of
the Caspian Sea[5], and it would be this branch of Qajars that would rise to
power. The immediate ancestor of Qajars, Shah Qoli Khan Qajar Qovanlu
of the Qovanlus of Ganja, married into the Qovanlu Qajars of
Astarabad. His son, Fath Ali Khan Qajar, born circa 1685-1693, was a
renowned military commander during the rule of the Safavid shahs Husayn and
Tahmasp II. He was killed on the orders of Tahmasp Qoli Khan Afshar (Nader
Shah) in 1726. Fath Ali Khan's son Mohammad Hassan Khan Qajar (1722-1758)
was killed at the behest of Karim Khan Zand, and was the father of Agha
Mohammad Khan and Hossein Qoli Khan (Jahansouz Shah) Qajar (father of "Baba
Khan," the future Fath Ali Shah Qajar).
perhaps some distant reflection of Van in names.
Within 126 years between the demise of the Safavid state and the rise of
Nasir al-Din Shah, the Qajars evolved from a shepherd-warrior tribe with
strongholds in northern Persia into a Persian dynasty with all the trappings
of a Perso-Islamic monarchy.[1]
* line 123: This center of civilization was situated in the region
east of the southern end of the Caspian Sea, near
the Kopet Dagh. A short way up in the
foothills of Turkestan are the vestiges of what was onetime the Adamsonite
headquarters of the violet race. In these
highland sites, situated in a narrow and ancient fertile belt lying
in the lower foothills of the Kopet range, there successively arose at
various periods four diverse cultures respectively fostered by four
different groups of Adamson's descendants. It was the second of these
groups which migrated westward to Greece and the islands of the
Mediterranean. The residue of Adamson's descendants migrated
north and west to enter Europe with the
blended stock of the last Andite wave coming out of Mesopotamia, and they
were also numbered among the Andite-Aryan invaders of India.
PAPER 78 - THE VIOLET RACE AFTER THE DAYS OF ADAM, Oct 19 2000
* line 34: 1. The violet race--Adamites and Adamsonites. The chief
center of Adamite culture was in the second garden, located in the triangle
of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers; this was indeed the cradle of Occidental
and Indian civilizations. The secondary or northern center of the violet
race was the Adamsonite headquarters, situated east of the southern shore of
the Caspian Sea near the Kopet mountains. From these two centers there went
forth to the surrounding lands the culture and life plasm which so
immediately quickened all the races.
and
5. ADAMSON AND RATTA
Having delineated the Nodite antecedents of the ancestry of the secondary
midwayers, this narrative should now give consideration to the Adamic half
of their ancestry, for the secondary midwayers are also the grandchildren of
Adamson, the first-born of the violet race of Urantia.
Adamson was among that group of the children of Adam and Eve who elected to
remain on earth with their father and mother.
Now this eldest son of Adam had often heard from Van and Amadon the story of their highland
home in the north, and sometime after the establishment of the second
garden he determined to go in search of this land
of his youthful dreams.
Adamson was 120 years old at this time and had been the father of thirty-two
pure-line children of the first garden. He wanted to remain with his parents
and assist them in upbuilding the second garden, but he was greatly
disturbed by the loss of his mate and their children, who had all elected to
go to Edentia along with those other Adamic children who chose to become
wards of the Most Highs.
Here is
another view. I can visualize what the place looked like. Note the circle
and the cross with small hills within each quadrant
Quote
In these highland sites, situated in a narrow and ancient fertile belt
lying in the lower foothills of the Kopet range,
You have to read the UB very carefully
There are 2 components in the above fragment. The highland sites which
adjoins a long narrow fertile valley in the Kopet Daugh mountains
The above images confirm this in my opinion.
Looks very prominent in this view and protected from all sides. There
appears to be a wall that seems very straight and symmetrical offering
protection in the Northern side. It appears to be a hidden valley and I
wouldn't be surprised if there are some hot springs being a volcanic area.
One would have to go there to verify but it looks very compelling.
and this fragment
Quote
Now this eldest son of Adam had often heard from Van and Amadon the story
of their highland home in the north, and
sometime after the establishment of the second
garden he determined to go in search of
this land of his youthful dreams.
another reference to a highland home which the above images confirm being
in a hidden highland site, there home and the location of the the tree of
life.
I'm absolutely sure that place was
designed to reflect some common symbolism that would be recognized. at
some stage in the future.
sevens
Here is another interesting set of ancient sites.
It appears to be co planar
Sevens
posted
05-01-2008 04:26 PM
Yes, I really enjoyed that, an ice desert in the
Southern Pole. Hard to comprehend, a desert of ice!
I thought Peter Thomson would of said more
Sevens
posted
05-01-2008 04:31 Pm
I reckon the Urantia Book is the Seventh Mystery
written by the Sevenfold Mission, a collaboration of Midwayers and Universal
personalities especially of the Ancients of Days.
In the last post I reckon that is the temple/home of Van and Amadon....for sure.
It reflects all the right and consistent symbolism.
Unless someone can show something better and more
consistent I'm sticking to this place as the location of Van and Amadon.
Sevens
posted
05-01-2008 04:54 PM
I reckon that fits in to, part of the Seventh
Mystery. It all reflects in Hindu religion to. No doubt about that to from what
Ive seen.
Van is reflected in all the books of the Vuranas and Puranas and the Mahabharata
Its seems that the Sevens is reflected heavily like the Seven rivers. The tree
of life after the fall of Dalamatia City was transported first to around Lake
Dal(North Western India) and eventually overtime to North Eastern Iran which is
reflected in the Iranian mythology like the Ahura Mazda and then eventually
1stEden. Van was there in each place and left the seal to be followed in what I
believe he foresore that this symbol would be very important in the future.
The exact symbols we are finding today.
Kicking big goals I reckon!
Its the path and the knowledge of the
"Tree of Life" in ancient times past.
All the books have something to say
and contribute in its unique way!
Sevens
posted
05-01-2008 06:14 PM
Ok Im concentrating on this fragment from the UB
especially in bold.
]All info outside the UB comes from the Wikipedia
quote:
This center of civilization was situated in the
region east of the southern end of the Caspian Sea, near the Kopet Dagh.
A short way up in the foothills of Turkestan are the vestiges of what
was onetime the Adamsonite headquarters of the violet race. In these highland
sites, situated in a narrow and ancient fertile belt lying in the lower
foothills of the Kopet range,
quote:
Turkestan (Persian: ترکستان; also spelled
Turkistan or Türkistan in Turkish, which literally means "Land of the Turks"
in Persian) is a region in Central Asia, which today is largely inhabited by
Turkic peoples. It has been referenced in many Turkic and Persian sagas and is
an integral part of Turan (though Turan dwarfs Turkestan in area). Oghuz Turks
(also known as Turkmens), Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Khazars, Kyrgyz and Uygurs are some
of the Turkic inhabitants of the region who, as history progressed, have
spread further into Eurasia forming such Turkic nations as Turkey, Azerbaijan
and Russian Tatarstan. Tajiks and Russians form sizable non-Turkic minorities.
It is subdivided into Afghan Turkestan, Russian Turkestan and Xinjiang
Uyghur Autonomous Region (also known as Chinese Turkestan, East Turkestan or
Uyghuristan) in PR China. The Tian Shan and Pamir ranges form a rough division
between the latter two.
and the history
History
Further information: History of Central Asia
Turkestan has a rich history, dating back to the third millennium BC. Many
artifacts were produced in that period, and much trade was conducted. The
region was a focal point for cultural diffusion, as the Silk Road traversed
it.
Turkestan covers the area of Central Asia that corresponded to eastern
Scythia, Transoxania and Greater Khorasan in Antiquity , and acquired
its "Turkic" character from the 4th to 6th centuries AD with the incipient
Turkic expansion.
Turkic Sagas, such as the Ergenekon, and written sources such as the Orkhon
Inscriptions state that Turkic peoples originated in the nearby Altay
Mountains, and, through nomadic settlement, started their long journey
westwards.
Successive external powers have held the region. Greeks, under Alexander the
Great, held the area from 327 BC to 150 BC.
Huns conquered the area after they conquered Kashgaria in the early 2nd
century BC. With the dissolution of the Huns' empire, Chinese rulers took over
Eastern Turkestan[1].
Arab forces captured it in the 8th century. The Persian Samanid dynasty
subsequently conquered it and the area experienced economic success[1].
The entire territory was held at various times by Turkic forces, such as the
Göktürks until the conquest by Genghis Khan and the Mongols in 1220. Khan gave
the territory to his son, Chagatai and the area became the Chagatai
Khanate[1].
Tamerlane took over the area in 1369 and the area became the Timurid
Empire[1].
I was interested in this "Greater Khorasan in
Antiquity"
and Here is information on Greater Khorasan
quote:
Greater Khorasan (Persian: خراسان بزرگ) (also
written Khorasaan, Khurasan and Khurasaan) is a modern term for eastern
territories of ancient Persia since the 3. century A.D.. Khorasan is a Pahlavi
word which means "the land of sunrise". Greater Khorasan included territories
that presently are part of Afghanistan, Iran, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan,
Uzbekistan, and areas in modern-day Pakistan[1].
Greater Khorasan contained mostly Nishapur and Tus (now in Iran), Herat, Balkh,
Kabul and Ghazni (now in Afghanistan), Merv and Sanjan (now in Turkmenistan),
Samarqand and Bukhara (both now in Uzbekistan), Khujand and Panjakent (now in
Tajikistan) and Balochistan[citation needed] (now in Pakistan, Afghanistan,
and Iran).
These days, the adjective greater is partly used to distinguish it from
Khorasan province, in modern-day Iran, that forms western parts of these
territories, roughly half in area [2]. It is also used to indicate that
Greater Khorasan encompasses territories that were perhaps called by some
other popular name when they were individually referred to. For example
Transoxiana (covered Uzbekistan and Tajikistan), Bactria, Kabulistan [3] ,
Khwarezm (containing Samarkand and Bukhara) [4] .
and look at this in the Wikipedia
quote:
Khurasan in the Hadiths and prophecies of
Mohammad
The prophet of Islam, Muhammad, mentioned the country Khurasan many times
concerned to the islamic/devine prophecies over the future.
In the country Khurasan in Taluqan (northern Afghanistan) that at that place
are treasures of Allah, but these are not of gold and silver but consist of
people who have recognised Allah as they should have. (Al-Muttaqi al-Hindi,
Al-Burhan fi Alamat al-Mahdi Akhir al-zaman, p.59)
Further: [...] The Christians will demand their wanted people, to which the
Muslims will answer: "By Allah! They are our brothers. We will never hand them
over." This will start the war. One-third Muslims will run away. Their
‘Tawbah’ (Repentance) will never be accepted. One-third will be killed. They
will be the best 'Shaheed' (martyrs) near Allah. The remaining one-third will
gain victory, until, under the leadership of Imam Mehdi, they will fight
against Kufr (non-believers). This group will belong to Khurasan. They will be
wearing black turbans. People will rise up from the East who will keep on
coming forward, trampling the ground under the feet, to the aid of Imam Mahdi
to help establish his government. (Ibn Majah) From Khurasan will emerge black
flags, whom none will be able to turn back (and they, the flag bearers, will
continue moving forward) till they reach Illya (Jerusalem) and embed their
flags into its earth. (Tirmizi) In the era preceding Qyamah the Christians
will control/govern the whole world. The Christians will reach Khaybar (Place
in present day Saudi close to Madina. (Hadith quoted in Bab-al-Qeyamah by
Muhaddith Shah Rafee-ud-din)".
Prophet Mohammad: "Before your treasure, three will kill each other -- all of
them are sons of a different caliph but none will be the recipient. Then the
Black Banners will appear from the East and they will kill you in a way that
has never before been done by a nation." Thawban, a companion said: 'Then he
said something that I do not remember by heart' then continued to say that the
Prophet, praise and peace be upon him, said: "If you see him give him your
allegiance, even if you have to crawl over ice, because surely he is the
Caliph of Allah, the Mahdi. If you see the black flags coming from Khurasan,
join that army, even if you have to crawl over ice, for this is the army of
the Caliph, the Mahdi and no one can stop that army until it reaches
Jerusalem."
Related by Abu Hurayrah: Prophet Mohammad said: "(Armies carrying) black flags
will come from Khurasan (Afghanistan). No power will be able to stop them and
they will finally reach Jerusalem where they will erect their flags." (Tirmidhi)
On the authority of Thawbaan, the Messenger of Allah said: "If you see the
Black Banners coming from Khurasan go to them immediately, even if you must
crawl over ice, because indeed amongst them is the Caliph, Al Mahdi."
[Narrated on authority of Ibn Majah, Al-Hakim, Ahmad]
Amr ibn Hurayth quoted AbuBakr as-Siddiq as saying that Allah's Messenger told
them the Dajjal would come forth from a land in the East called Khurasan,
followed by people whose faces resembled shields covered with skin.
Here is the Map of Turkestan
Which includes the location of Van and Amadon highland home within the long
narrow valley within Turkestan in the province of "Khurasan"
Also note the Urantia Book written was recorded in 1934. I think this definitely
points to the location including the prophecies attached. Its all a matches and
is consistent.
What about those prophecies! Eh! That was interesting! considering the
conversation and what we have discovered. Very, very interesting!
Just say if this journey to the places including the message from "Khurasan" was
the message of the real Mahdi, I wonder how they in "Khurasan" would take the
this particular journey to God especialy when the things that we/I have
established. Eh!
They would all have to turn from violence on anyone no matter who! That would be
the first message and directive from the office of the Messiah!
But then I wonder if they would have enough intelligence and spirituality to
recognize and to obey!! Another Test for Islam and especially Persia! Eh!
And for those in Iran to learned the truth here is a link for them and for those
in "Khurasan" province.
Part of the Office of the Messiah which includes the Mahdi of the Islam
religion. This link is for them and the true path to Paradise for them in
fulfillment in truth, beauty and goodness.
Whilst the above post may seem a little silly to
some or the majority The ancients of Days and the Universal Hierarchy may take
it very serious.
The Islam prophecy for the area may appear to aggressive and violent but in
real truth in accordance to the way I see it. I believe its a spiritual army
of no violence, it should never be interpreted on the basis of violence.
The Mahdi is the leader of a spiritual army, no different to Zion army that
must commit no violence and abandon all forms of destruction.
Only in new truth replacing non truth, non truth in reality is all to do with
violence and destruction against any brother.
How the Mahdi Army wins is through the truth of no violence and does run in
parallel to the will of the Father and Jesus. The only way the Mahdi army will
ever hope to win anything is through NO Violence.
Paradise does accept violence and the Ancients of Days are absolutely serious
about this. Honestly, if people forsake the truth an continue the road of
violence they will be in breach of the will of Paradise/The Father and will
not make into Paradise! This is absolute.
This can be backed up in the Book of Enoch.
I would strongly suggest that the various so called Mahdi Army in Iraq
including Al Sadrs groups, Al Queda and others in the surrounding area must
desist from Violence and lay down the arms and negotiate a peace settlement.
Every Mahdi army member should go back to there family and relearn the truth
from all the books of the prophets in all cultures focalised on the ancient
places as discovered including the highland capital in Koresan where another
section of the Planetary comes from.
I would say this would be a direct command from Paradise.
I can assure you if this occurred then the Western Alliance will also seek for
peace and then peace will come into the land.
If this is disobeyed, then one forfeits there own Paradise quest.
Point blank period!
I just want to say that if the true Mahdi Army of non violence arises in
proper truth, they will incorporated in the spiritual Office of the Messiah
including the spiritual army of Zion of NO VIOLENCE represented by Jesus and
Melchizedek and this will destroy Dajjal, remembering Dajjal works
specifically in creating division amongst man particularly through false
interpretation of religion and anger through the violence facility.
Zion is not exclusive club built by one race only, but is a spiritual army of
truth that incorporates all man from all cultures, has nothing to do with race
as the truth in the End Times. The truth of the End times comes from the so
called Gentiles which incorporates all man in definition including the Jews.
This is the inquiry of mans souls regardless of race. Race has nothing to with
anything in this case but the soul of an individual all related to attitude!
The requirements of the end times is small and narrow!
The requirements of the end times is a small and
narrow path but gee its mighty and powerful in Paradise truth and has all
backing!
Also I want to add another directive from the Office of the Messiah and for
the Mahdi Army.
"Absolutely no violence what so ever against Women, any interpretation that
approves of women beating, stoning and body castration is strictly forbidden
and false. Utterly! To do these things to women is an absolute offense to
Paradise!
Those who disobey this will be punished!
Women are mans equal partner and are the Mothers of our children and should
held in the upmost respect, not some slave to be pushed around!
Women are civilisation builders in many aspects that man should appreciate
NOW and love her in all ways.
Women is the equal help partner in life, in
type of Man and Jesus working together and the relationship should be based
on that standard, on the highest standards of the Universe and Paradise!
Sevens
posted
05-02-2008 02:40 AM
hey Qoais
quote:
There are certain of the Vedas that
are "recent" history, but there are those that are ancient. There are tales
and folklore and myths which have to be sifted for fact. Bits and pieces stick
out and catch a person's attention. Bit by bit, using logic, one can re-create
a close picture as to what might have happened.
I agree, a big huge study should be
done on all the myths for commonality and see where it leads in truth!
For sure, definitely. Other than fly by the seat of your pants and see what
results come out of the journey in particularly where it leads to.
Most definitely!
All the scholars and religionists should get together and test everything!
Everyone has to take responsibility for there own
actions and cannot fore go responsibility in untruth that is unrealistic and
cannot be proven nor established in truth.
sevens
posted
05-02-2008 08:10 AM
Hi Ishtar
That was a very interesting article.
I thought this part was interesting.
quote:
Biltz said he's been studying prophecies that
focus on the sun and moon, even going back to the book of Genesis where it
states the lights in the sky would be "be for signs, and for seasons."
"It means a signal, kind of like 'one if by land, two if by sea.' It's
like God wants to signal us, " he said. "The Hebrew word implies ...
not only is it a signal, but it's a signal for coming or His appearing."
I thought the bold in the above seem to reflect
the ancient cities, 2 from the water and one by land as in the previous posts.
Compelling! particularly in our conversation. I reckon the 2 by sea and one
signal by land is fulfilled. Now! as its in our consciousness.
All the best
Sevens
posted
05-02-2008 08:19 AM
Hey Ishtar, I just noticed that the pope is
coming to Australia to the Land of Sinim for a small break. It coincides with
Catholic Youth Day.
I just wonder you know. hahahaha wouldn't be funny if he was reading these
posts.
Anyway I think III write to the heads here and see if he wants a meeting about
the ancient places.
If I could help out I would no matter who.
Sevens
posted
05-02-2008 06:53 PM
Im having a crack at some of the prophecies of
Khorason as mentioned by Mohammad.
I was interested in this fragment.
quote:
In the country Khurasan in Taluqan (northern
Afghanistan) that at that place are treasures of Allah, but these are not
of gold and silver but consist of people who have recognised Allah as they
should have. (Al-Muttaqi al-Hindi, Al-Burhan fi Alamat al-Mahdi Akhir al-zaman,
p.59)
I tend to feel that is all relates to the great
discovery in the images and realisation of Vans/Amadons/Adamsons highland
homeland in North Eastern Iran and is part of the journey of the path of the
tree of life in past ages. The discovery is not of material gold but is
representative of truth in the highest level as discovered in cooberation of
what is written in the new book.
The source/base information leading to this discovery is from a book written by
the angels for mankind's future destiny. The book and the journey of its words
raises a people who has the right relationship with God on the spiritual level
and it marks the truth of Paradise with the intent of love one another, the true
way that all should of followed in the past.
The Urantia Book is book specifically tailored by the angels for Islam and
Christianity alike and designed to compliment, not to replace but to extract the
truth out of each book in the demonstration in the oneness and unity of truth in
the discovery and verification in each book.
It is the new book of Allah that Islam should investigate in matters.
The Urantia Book has proven itself in the journey and stands alone from all
religion. It is truly independent and of Paradise authorship and has helped
fulfill prophecy in each book.
But compellingly, the Urantia Book extracts the truth fragments out of each book
to form a unity of truth in the journey of discovery being led by the book and
which incorporates all the books of religion being opened in this time
concerning mankind.
Concerning Islam, the Urantia Book is the new uplift of Islam and Christianity
alike to form the unity of the One God religion in completion throughout the
world with greater definition and wider understanding.
This is the big mystery and the eye opener for man. The only thing that prevents
unity is pride and prejudice and inability to learn in light of the facts.
Sevens
Re:
Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods
Quote:
The Christians will demand their wanted
people, to which the Muslims will answer: "By Allah! They are our
brothers. We will never hand them over."
This will start the war. One-third Muslims will run away. Their
‘Tawbah’ (Repentance) will never be accepted. One-third will be killed.
They will be the best 'Shaheed' (martyrs) near Allah. The remaining
one-third will gain victory, until, under the leadership of Imam Mehdi,
they will fight against Kufr (non-believers). This group will belong to
Khurasan
Well the above appears to reflect the current climate of the war of Islam with
Christian based civilizations. Seems obvious.
I'm discounting the opinions or interpretations within the fragment as I see
differently in relation to this journey. These interpretations have created
wars like this where things have been taken out of context leading death and
destruction which is not the way of paradise in the level I see the opinions
as erroneous!
Quote:
The
Christians will demand their wanted people, to which the Muslims will
answer: "By Allah! They are our brothers. We will never hand them over."
This seems reflect the demand for the ring
leaders of terrorism sought out by the west in this current climate of war.
"They are our brothers. We will never hand
them over." There is resistance to this demand which is understandable! This will start the war. One-third Muslims
will run away The resistance begins a war like this current war, 1/3
will be killed another 1/3 will run from war and will not participate but
should not be condemned as they refugees from war.
"The remaining one-third will gain victory,
until, under the leadership of Imam Mehdi,they will fight against Kufr
(non-believers). This group will belong to Khurasan."
The other 1/3 who gets the victory could very well be those who embrace the
truth that comes out of "Khurasan."
You know the ancient places. The truth of the path of the tree of life of NO
VIOLENCE, the ones who discover and embrace the truth. The ones who work for
truth, beauty and goodness towards all man as all man are blood brothers, same
species. This the truth from "Khurasan."
that claims the victory in truth! Now this group from
"Khurasan." of the Highland Capital of
Van embraces all man and walks in parallel with other brothers of other
religions who are also affected by the great realisation. This would be the
forming of the unity of man and the Father arising.
"under the leadership of Imam Mehdi,"
Obviously there is an individual who will discover the treasure of
"Khurasan." and through his discovery
of the real hidden truth he will guide the remaining 1/3 against ignorance and
division and will will win and will be in unity with other religions as it
should be. "Khurasan." is the land of
the Sunrise where great spiritual treasures will be found and is related to
planetary destiny! The truth will arise from
"Khurasan." like in the discovery and truth of Vans highland home.
"The remaining one-third will gain victory,
until, under the leadership of Imam Mehdi, they will fight against Kufr
(non-believers)." This should not be interpreted as fight against
Christianity nor against other religions as we both follow the one God in our
own way through various religions. Islam is part by product of Judaism and of
Christianity particularly the early Eastern Christian church thats why there
is many commonalities that can be shared more than differences in truth.
The real fight is against ignorance and arrogance with truth in a non violent
peaceful way that is good witness to any man showing respect and tolerance
towards one another. In truth the Kufr is not Christianity nor other
religions. Not at all, I believe that is a erroneous interpretation used in
wrong justification for war and destruction leading man in the wring path.
"This group will belong to Khurasan.
They will be wearing black turbans. People will rise up from the East who will
keep on coming forward, trampling the ground under the feet, to the aid of
Imam Mahdi to help establish his government."[/b] The group from Khurasan will
have the best truth of all good things. The black turbans I think is a fashion
statement of that time held on to. In metaphor the Black Turban represents an
ensign a symbol. The Imam has symbols in his advent that can be recognized and
that is the symbols of the circles. The Imam comes from the East in which
fulfills this journey coming from the extreme east from the Land of Sinim.
Kangaroo country in cooperation with the coastlands and with the all the
prophets and seers of old even in recent times. The message coming the east,
land of Sinim and attached to "Khurasan" in discovery linked with perfection
of oneness. "People will rise up from the
East who will keep on coming forward," People, (anyone) will continue
to embrace, it will not stop, momentum in real truth embrace continues and
again comes from the east. The true Imahdi
army will not trample upon man but will instead uplift man in higher
realms of thinking with the truth! and nothing but the truth! In essence
trampling on ignorance with truth but not physically trampling man as that is
deemed as an offense to Paradise according to the plumb line that has been set
by Paradise! This truth will establish the true spiritual government of the
Imahdi or the Paradise government of the Father in earth. The Mahdi is a
representative of Paradise with a non violent government with the ensign of
truth as its symbol.
"From Khurasan will emerge black flags, whom
none will be able to turn back (and they, the flag bearers, will continue
moving forward) till they reach Illya (Jerusalem) and embed their flags into
its earth." Yes, the truth led by the Ensign of truth will reach
Jerusalem and plant its emblem in the soil of Jerusalem. This is
NOT due some war in the physical but
in non violent truth where the truth will reach Jerusalem and this case the
emblem is the 3 concentric circles, the Melchizedek of Salem.
In metaphor, in this level of the journey, the truth comes from
"Khurasan" and ends in
Jerusalem the home of the Melchizedek
when on earth. All related with the right symbols and the Melchizedek is the
rightful Planetary Price of this Planet.
Quote:
"Prophet Mohammad: "Before your treasure,
three will kill each other -- all of them are sons of a different caliph
but none will be the recipient. Then the Black Banners will appear from
the East and they will kill you in a way that has never before been done
by a nation."
""Before your treasure, three will kill each other -- all of them are sons of
a different caliph but none will be the recipient." This seems to reflect the
gwoups under different leadership in Islam fighting the war of death and
destruction. To me this points directly to Al Queda, The Taliban and perhaps
the current Mahdi army in Iraq and any one supporting terrorism including
countries. This tells me and back up in the Book of Enoch that there quest
will all fail and they will receive nothing for their efforts from Paradise.
If they turn back now and lay down there arms and follow the peace path and
relearn the truth then they might come out of it successfully regarding
Paradise. But at the moment they are not within the enclave of Paradise!
It obvious that they wont listen to the message and continue the error of
death and destruction and loose everything even there there after life. 3
caliphs means 3 leaders in Islam that are in error using death and destruction
with wrong interpretation used as justification for death! However, whilst
this is all happening a new an revitalized resurrected truth comes to pass
with the right ensign and with truth as the vanguard representative of the
truth of Paradise that will be successful even unto Jerusalem.
And here are some copoerating fragments
Quote:
Related by Abu Hurayrah: Prophet Mohammad
said: "(Armies carrying) black flags will
come from Khurasan (Afghanistan).
No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach
Jerusalem where they will erect their flags." (Tirmidhi)
On the authority of Thawbaan, the Messenger of Allah said: "If you see the
Black Banners coming from Khurasan go to
them immediately, even if you must crawl over ice, because indeed
amongst them is the Caliph, Al Mahdi." [Narrated on authority of Ibn Majah,
Al-Hakim, Ahmad]
(Advised to embrace the real truth of Paradise from arises out of "Khurasan"
Amr ibn Hurayth quoted AbuBakr as-Siddiq as saying that Allah's Messenger
told them the Dajjal would come forth from a land in the East called
Khurasan, followed by people whose faces resembled shields covered with
skin.
Dajjal also appears top be present working his confusion in "Khurasan" and
related areas currently. There appears to be 2 powers in the area, the army of
confusion, death and destruction based on wrong interpretations with its
opposing force and the forces of Paradise that come from the ancient places as
the opposing force in truth from Paradise/Kingdom of Heaven.
Well its all happening in my view!
Sevens
posted
05-02-2008 08:50 PM
quote:
So what do you suggest we should do about
that!? In other words, what's your plan to re-program "pride and prejudice"!?
Just to get the truth out there fully verified on
all levels so its in your face so no one can twist and turn away from truth like
a cowardly rabbit.
Bring the truth out so everyman sees for himself in the most simple fashion that
a 10 year old could understand. No excuses, no crap! that kind of thing. You
know!
sevens
posted
05-05-2008 04:14 AM
For sure wireless
There seems some that agree with rapture and some that dont
I thought this was an interesting view point about rapture
All views and points raised are good point but I tend to feel there is a rapture
that is very specific like this journey.
Im really wondering about this secret rapture thought, the activation that is
not well known. The journey to the former things is a journey where either
believe or dont?
Its one of these journeys maybe secret rapture so to speak as some people are
speaking about.
It could be the activation of the secret rapture and appears to make sense to
me.
But you have to make up your own mind and that's the beauty about this journey
you are free to do so.
Jesus did say what has been hidden shall be revealed. Nothing will be kept
hidden and that means the former things, the ancient places.
Here is some rapture thoughts from an Islamic researcher. He raises interesting
points that seem contradictory with Bias to in some respects.
The people who killed Jesus was not whole of Israel or all the Jews but the
system ruling the Pharisees and and the Sanhedrin. There where many that
believed in Jesus' truth. He is generalizing to much and taking out of
prospective about the death of Jesus and who killed him.
Many of the Jewish scholars are beginning to see that Jesus is the Messiah and
the Melchizedek is a Messiah as well.
To me it clear highlight that a correction of truth has to occur to correct all
perceptions. I think this journey does it and is a stand alone journey but
connected to all books. I believe its the demonstration!
It was good to hear the Islamic prospective and we should mindful of all things
because there maybe some clues.
Note the triangle circle in the last video!!!
What a hint that is but where the author of the last video doesn't not realize
the significance of the triangle/circle chevron symbol in this journey of
symbolism connected to the submerged cities where truth meets symbol.
It seems to me that some thing new
comes in the middle that does connect and makes all sense and touches the heart
of all the truth in each religion.
ahahahahah
Now here is an Islamic Video on the Last Mehdi which would akin to the last
messenger before Jesus comes to destroy Dajjal.
You will note that the interpretation of this is seen in a physical war like
fashion which you would understand!
However from a prospective in relation to the ancient former places see the
following interpretation as spiritual of truth uncovering truth. Where the truth
from places swallow up in truth false interpretation through demonstration and
actually all the countries where the ancient places are and verified actually
change these places where people follow the truth.
In truth the Last Mehdi is not a physical but a truth army from Paradise/Kingdom
of heaven and demonstrates itself in truth which does actually conquer in truth!
I might listen more to these videos as they informs of what other of other
religions see and maybe we can find more clues looking from our prospective of
the former places.
Mind you the last battle is around the 1Eden area within the triangle of truth.
I see many commonalities here and its all comes from these countries.
In the following video he speaks of
faction from Christianity that joins the Mehdi army.
To me this may point to this journey where this stand alone truth unites Islamic
people and Christianity alike. Ive said this before. But I dont think its a
physical battle but a spiritual battle of enlightenment that change the minds of
people and circumstance. Where the message of the truth vanquished false ideas
like terrorism and other spiritual and physical illegal acts.
I think the truth is spiritual and physical. Its a battle of truth that comes
from an independent source like Paradise in the middle of two religions that
forms a unity where Christians and Islamic join the army of truth and do conquer
through enlightenment and truth and dont go to war physically.
Interesting videos though and many clues that I feel verify the journey!
Personally, I think the Mehdi is a
person who embracers the Urantia Book and all the Books of religion.
That's my view whilst on the journey
to the places of the Ancients.
Knowledge that is hidden that will
reveal the Mehdi, information that people of the Quran has not heard ever
before. They dont know what the knowledge is but we know, we know everything
dont we!
The interesting thing about the above post is that
the 2 main religions believe that there is an End Times but I feel the truth
will come about the end times and that will be the truth and the right version
in the outcome.
I think both religions have the keys to the truth and the keys in the out work
will be the correction in the actual reality and that will be the truth for
both religions in the unity of truth.
Remember the origins of Islam ultimately comes from Abner with the Seventy of
the ex John the Baptist followers. And Jesus will honor the truth in there
books to. But I feel its a spiritual outwork in reality rather than war, a
physical war.
I believe its just the truth displacing error in the interpretation and I feel
the ultimate truth will come from an independent source and is related to both
religions and touches the heart of both religions in the spiritual.
About Rome being overcome, I believe the Catholic church through there
investigation will recognize the truth. that's all it is a realisation not war
in the sense of a physical war! I believe its through the truth that the
church will be overcome where truth meets symbol.
I believe that's all it is! Spiritual realisation of the times and places of
the ancients of our past world linked to today in discovery. The
demonstration!
I feel an religious envoy should communicate with the leaders of Iran about
the journey and the ancient places with a open transparent proposal. Where the
construct is presented and layed down on the table with a quest to verify the
truth of Dalamatia City. All should be layed on the table where the Government
of Iran are able to be a participant in the quest of truth for the sake of
realisation.
The beauty of Dalamatia City is that it is in International waters not in the
Iranian economic zone so really speaking anyone by International law are able
to go there and explore. However the reality might be different.
I think for the US to go there and conquer Iran and occupy might be difficult
and would result in further bloodshed. To go there physically and occupy would
make the situation worse and would add to the problems. All must be revealed
and opened so that it gives the government of Iran an opportunity to see for
themselves without compulsion or through physical threat.
However, in saying this the most stupid thing to do for Iran is to bomb
Jerusalem with nuclear holocaust. That would be the most stupid to do as that
would bring about the wrath of the USA upon Iran and Iran would receive
nothing but destruction if it actually hurt Jerusalem and its people through a
Hbomb.
Mind you the last rebel would love to do that, no doubt about that, the more
confusion, the better for the last rebel but thank God the last rebel is
restrained to some degree at this time. So that this truth can appear and
reveal itself in the timeline progression of realisation and truth in the
oneness of discovery!
The real truth of the matter is that the leadership of Iran have to see the
truth for themselves through realisation not war. Its the only true way we can
find the peace path through self-realization and truth in the demonstration.
That's why its important that this body of the Jesus must make a bridge in the
quest of truth in joint proposal to the middle east countries and Iran has to
be involved.
Only the Christians can do this as we are the only ones that understand the
situation fully in this journey and what has been revealed. The Urantia
organizations cant, even though they are my brothers to, but they are to small
and dont have much money to accomplish such a feat.
They dont have the size nor the international influence, we are only
individuals in quest of truth in our personal progression we not a big body,
just individuals really keen for all the truth of the whole matter.
Mind you what I do is a complete individual journey with a desire of
unification of all the religion through what I believe is the greatest mystery
on the planet by design built by circumstances in our ancient past and used
for our benefit today NOW! whilst we have opportunity!
In relation to the ancient places I have written to the Supreme leader
sometime ago revealing the ancient places in all locations and with my link. I
also have written to George Bush and revealed the truth of the places and
suggested that he uses the US navy to verify the truth accompanied with
representatives of each surrounding nation to witness the discovery.
I even suggested for the Navy to verify it now and then plan to show the
evidence to the surrounding nations in a joint venture. I thought this would
be a beautiful project for the servicemen and women of the US navy presently
in the Gulf.
I also believe that this project is a matter national security in a positive
sense and should be supported by all levels of the US government in finance
and equipment. And should be transparent for all to see so that would it be a
fine witness of the truth by the US government and its people. It would also
give the US government good direction for this time now.
I reckon I am right in this thought and I know Jesus and Melchizedek is right
behind it with full support from the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven.
I believe the Coastlands will stand in the End Times because they have faith
in Jesus ultimately within ourselves personaly and Jesus will honour the
coastlands. This project provides the perfect opportunity to create bridges to
Iran that can bring healing with a message of good and great tidings for its
people in the discovery.
This maybe the only opportunity that we have to bring about an acceptable
conclusion to all this death and destruction where symbol meets truth in the
discovery.
I believe the prophecy of George Washington will come to pass and the US will
stand united in truth and will be successful. This I believe fervently and its
truth, beauty and goodness will stand in truth. The Father will truly bless
the people and churches for there faith in truth.
There is no doubt about that and dont anyone worry about that!
The key is truth and sharing with the other brothers what we have and make a
open presentation of truth through the physical journey to the places in its
verification.
We are on the road and I strongly believe the Christian body will stand tall.
I believe that 100% and I have every faith in that.
Interestingly, if all is done as set out in task we will be very successfull
and will be friends with the lovers of truth in Islam in its final outcome
centered on the new independent book written by the Kingdom of Heaven for us
now that brings in a unity in oneness of the witness, discovery and
verification in the journey.
Praise the Lord for that, I really praise the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven
for this fantastic opportunity.
And we all going by faith in Jesus, truly our friend and Saviour in this
planetary mess we have before us
But everything has to be tested and that's exactly what we are doing right now
and it will need activation of the churches, the body of Jesus which requires
an almighty step in faith!
Praise the Lord for that one to.
The test of truth as in the books and I have no doubt all will be successful.
If this was done and we are completely successful in our quest for the
verification of Dalamatia City and if the Iranian government was involved then
that should open access to the other places for verification. I believe this
may be the progression where the truth and treasures of Khorason will be
revealed in the physical verification of the places in Eastern Iran and sets
up a fulfillment in the Islamic prophecies related to the end times.
I believe that this is the construct that will bring resolution and has full
blessing by Paradise/Kingdom of Heaven and will be successfull in every
detail.
No worries about that mate!
Thanks Norman for your questions. Praise the Lord eh!
The angels and the Universal Hierarchy of the
Ancients of Days have invested heavily in this journey and now I believe
man and the Body of Jesus must arise to the occasion with full backing.
Now is the time! not later but NOW! i\f we are to put an end to this
planetary disaster.
It is time to gather the spiritual leadership of Jesus within your body and
speak to the Government using your current facility and investigate, research
and lay a Jesus led consistent plan in the outworking of the proposal.
I strongly believe this is the path.
Even though the body of Jesus has varying ideas in doctrine but in this
proposal we can all be unified and differences in personal doctrine and dogma
should be left behind and a quest should be made.
The US navy can already verify the places in a discreet fashion, this alone
should verify the path with a small investigation using all the resources
currently available now.
After which we can a mass a very big proposal amongst the body if it proves to
be successfull but there should be a witness from this office of the Messiah
to witness the initial witness of the discovery and verification.
This witness could be anyone of you!
If Iran wants to know what's happening...Let them know the truth of the
matter! We can all be open in this as we are being led by the Messiahs Jesus
and Melchizedek through the facility of the Office of the Messiahs. Praise the
Lord Father!!!!!
Right on Father in the Kingdom of Heaven! We are the Kings men of heaven on
earth.
I and the Office of the Messiah
will be awaiting the answer of the Kings men and the plan of action and that
can be privately relayed.
Never forget that we are the men of Jesus and
the Father including the Sevenfold Mission and we will be ultimately
successful. All of US everyone who embraces the truth as we go in the
revealing of the hidden heritages of the Ages will be very very happy!
I praise the Father for the great gift of faith
in our time...thank you Jesus my friend and Saviour!
Sevens
posted
05-05-2008 06:47 PM
cool images, that ripple effect is
interesting. Like waves of a sea.
Fascinating geography and all that is under the ice of Greenland eh!
Intriguing
Sevens
posted
05-05-2008 06:55 PM
Yeah I agree, there is just too much debt and
monopolization over everything.
I tend to think that the current globalization thought is perhaps maybe a
license and entry capitalizing of the resources of every country.
Not even the people get a real benefit as all the gains are swept up by the
controllers and corruption.
We a too selfish for the system to change.
These days its really becomes the rich getting richer and the poor becoming more
poor and over controlled with manipulation.
No food means war and destruction of the system as we can see in its infancy of
having no food.
If the Babel system are concerned about there system they should make food
available at a non profit price. That would upset a few people I suppose.
ahahahahaha that be right!
Gee there is alot problems with the world, it almost becomes the Bad over taking
the Good.
Such darkness lives here. If we could cut out bloody war then we could
concentrate on other things.
BIG TIME!!! for sure! and create a more fairer system than the slavery that
exists today.
We are all slaves either to debt or to selfishness of control and ego or just by
having nothing.
We are all slaves in one way or another and we are so far from the Utopian ages.
What we live in can be and is very insidious and subtle with real spiritual
deception as we see it everyday.
Might be nice and pleasurable for some, but for the majority its a living hell
in many cases.
But then again, some people will only know there blessing on this planet, in
this life only and not there after! That's the corrective message for current
selfishness. In other words they loose their souls to gain the world in their
crap!
Spiritual Suicide in my view.
sevens
posted
05-05-2008 07:21 PM
I think your right! Wirelessguru for
sure I see that to.
Man just never learns until he meets his destruction.
Idiot man!
quote:
Some people just want to capitalize
on the problems of the world like buying Rice options only to make profit and
all the consciousness behind it!!!
To me that just crap making money out of starving people for a financial gain!
That really shits me
The greed involved in this Rice option
example is the abomination, capitalizing on the troubles of man. It doesn't help
your fellow brother, its just a case of rape, pillage and plunder where the
stock market is used as the facility for that!
Daffy Duck and his Rice Oil is just an example that. Well Disney! you're a real
friend of man!
sevens
posted
05-05-2008 08:53 PM
Hi Wirelessguru, I totally agree with
you undoubtedly, the stock market is a den of thieves, literally and its not
natural nor consistent with nature nor the universe!
It brings out the worst man! in his unnatural mode! Akin to a modern day
bloodbath of hope faith and TRUST!
I dont trust any of those brokers as they only in it for the Commission and
there various scams.
They are totally arrogant in their greed!
Always beware of the nice looking guy with the nice suit and sweet words of crap
and who call themselves a financial planner (mostly ex insurance salesman). Due
diligence must be done when speaking to a so called financial planner or
scammer.
I know so many people who have been ripped up by their illustrious schemes of
scams and nice beautiful words of crap that sprout out of their lying mouth
within their N.L.P. bullshit framework, programming your mind working on the
spirit of Greed that is also resident within, the Nodite propensity we all have.
I just feel this stock market scam is setting us up for a huge fall particularly
when we cant grow food properly and we cant eat money! to many toxins ahahahahah!
Figure it Wireless, Google and yahoo and the rest of them is only a website with
a large database that responds to keywords. That's not worth billions of
dollars. Just a bloody website that's all it is.
You could make a Google anyone with understanding in code like yourself could
make a Google, one guy could make a Google if he wanted to. Its just a bloody
website with a search facility.
All they want is monopolization of the Market in their neck of the woods, that's
all their interested in and couldn't give a crapper for you in real truth
despite all their propaganda!
All google can think of is that we wiped out another competitor and glory in
that but remember people loose jobs and livelyhood where opportunity is lessened
and are heavily in debt trying to survive.
I reckon that's the bare bones of the whole sham of the whole Babylon system,
thanks to the Nodites who do rule this system of things!
Oh I better use the Nikas/Indian Laughing laughing therapy before I get to
upset!
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
The funniest part when you propose a expedition of truth and verification, the
Babylon system runs like a coward like a big fat chicken.
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
ahahjahahahah
Because the Babylon system knows that this journey of truth and proposal is
deadly for them and does mark the end of scam and deception.
Now where are the real Men of this planet eh! You know the so called hero's eh!
Time to arise in truth! if there are any hero's out there???
ahahahahahahahahah what a laugh!
I challenge the Babylon system in the journey of truth of the ancient places
and all those in the stock market in their Greed and selfishness.
Put your money where your mouth is on this one Nodite. Lets see your guts and so
called glory!
One guy against the whole Babylon system of Earth....come on Nodite, lets get it
on buddy! in truth.
Lets see your crap now!
When it comes to truth, the Babylon/Nodite system will just fall apart at the
seams without a whimper. But there will be many of the system whimpering and
crying at its downfall, unique to this very dark and sinful planet!
In truth we deserve everything we get and it will come to pass and that's why
there is a preservation scheme of the Lord Jesus before the really bad events
that I foresee happening from NATURE! including the UNIVERSAL GOVERNMENT of the
FATHER! encompassing Jesus, Melchizedek and The Ancients of Days and the Elect
and faithful.
Nature itself will revolt against the Babylon
system!
All the best
sevens
posted
05-06-2008 06:40 AM
Jealous of nothing, there is nothing that
Georgeous has that I want.
Yeah, Im still awaiting the evidence as in scientific data requested months ago.
I can tell you the doco will be, in between all the Adds, 10 minutes of fluff,
fillers with one minute of content but with no evidence just speculation in a
background of all this selfvainglorious music with actors. BIG DEAL!
Fluff and bull with repetitive fillers, repeating what was said 10 minutes ago,
like most documentaries these days. Fluff, bull and fillers with repetition to
fill time as there is shortfall of truth as in data.
Just filling in time!
Plus his timeline is 1350BC oh! big deal Stonehenge has more going for itself!
Its not Atlantis, home of the Gods but a later stone age in Iberia and Europe.
That's all it is!
If anything the 3 concentric circles that he
discovered is the sign of the Melchizedek missionaries who traveled the world
spreading the truth of the one God! through symbols of the circles.
Yeah I smell a rat too!
Sevens
posted
05-06-2008 07:25 AM Here
is another video on the Mahdi and its relationship with the Ark of the covenant
that will be rediscovered according to Hadith prophecy!
In relation to the journey to the ancient places consider the proposal of the
verification of the Seven commands that lay submerged in these cities of ancient
times somewhere.
This actual proposal could very well be the advent of the ressurection of the
Noahaic Seven commands that are inscribed on stone tablets still submerged in
with the cities according to the Urantia Book. If the quest of the Seven
commands is fulfilled this would be the ressurection of the original commands of
the Father that stretches back to Dalamatia City.
The Seven commands could be either in Dalamatia City, 1st and lower Susa or in
Dilmun where the circular foundations of Babel lays.
Sevens
quote:
Seven my man. ahahahaha
posted
05-06-2008 11:55 AM
quote:
Seven my man. ahahahaha
ahahahahahahahahahah
Im cracking up ahahahahah
having a laugh!
Anyway everything has to be tested including my gear and that's what this forum
is all about.
I feel Iberia percieved as Atlantis falls below the mark of Atlantis in what has
been delivered.
Its just to late in the timeline. I have no doubt that what is being perceived
in the small amount of evidence is something totally different and only pride
prevents the discovery of the truth of the matter in detail.
You know Ive looked everywhere of Cardiz using the Bathy facility of worldwind
and I cant find anything except a smooth sea floor with no anomalies.
Spratly reef was the only possibility of which has been explored and they found
nothing.
So really there would be nothing there to convince anyone least of all us in
this forum. All I see is Bias with no objectivity in the evidence. They find one
vase with concentric circles Oh its Atlantis...no its not Atlantis home of the
Gods. Its something else of another era.
Anyway everyone has to make up there mind on these things I suppose! In the case
of Iberia as Atlantis is just the blind leading the blind in false hope and with
attached ego.
Hey about the documentaries of today aren't many of them just crap! Isn't that
so true.
People want the real truth where you can read about it and see, simple as that.
Sevens
ahahahahahahahahahahah crackin up!
posted
05-06-2008 12:11 PM
I also want to add that the Javan were
the early Greeks who came from Crete called the Ionians who originally came from
North Eastern Iran the highland headquarters of Van/Amadon and later Adamson.
A reflection and perpetuation of Van in name through the early Greeks. An east
to west transmigration of a race of people.
I also want to add that the Javan were the early Greeks who came from Crete
called the Ionians who originally came from North Eastern Iran the highland
headquarters of Van/Amadon and later Adamson.
A reflection and perpetuation of Van in name through the early Greeks. An east
to west transmigration of a race of people.
There is documentation of this and evidence in the images that display the
common symbol of the triangle and circle chevron and the 3 coplanar circles.
These symbols can be found in 3 submerged cities where design and symbol are a
commonplace amongst the 3 submerged cities and in the Van highland headquarters.
You cant find this in Iberia let alone of the coast of Cardiz. No way man!
Its funny that between Dalamatia City, Van highland headquarters and 1stEden the
3 cities forms a triangle with 2ndEden in the middle of the triangle...curious!
Information that is available and on the table and not hidden away!
All in all there are 4 submerged cities and one on land, 5 all up and the great
mystery ends in the Shaft of the Great Pyramid with the same symbol again
confirming the triangle and circle chevron. Unbreakable man! Just perfected and
foreseen.
Also the triangle and circle symbol can also be seen at the entrance of Jesus'
family tomb and on the bone boxes of some of the disciples or close followers of
Jesus that were buried not far from Jesus' family tomb.
All consistent! There is no where in the world on the planet where this can be
demonstrated. No where! Its the presentation of the Atlantis Gods so to speak
and there journey throughout the annals from ancient times past.
This would be a 3-5 hour documentary with nothing but evidence, knowledge, and
truth with no fillers, no repetitive garbage and most of all, no waffle crap!
Just truth and the journey seen from 3 prospectives, The past, present and the
future and cross linked with the source information and all the religious books
that contain reflections of this most worthy journey with all the messages for
the future destiny of mankind.
The real Atlantis! in my view. This is what the Atlantis Gods want to say!
Its there presentation. The presentation of the Universal Government not the
scam physical planetary government led and deceived by the last rebel we have
today. This presentation is Full and Complete!
Be happy ahahahahahahahaha
sevens
posted
05-06-2008 01:02 PM
You may have circles but that is representative
of a later stone age that perpetuated throughout Europe related to Sun or Moon
worship as in the evidence of Stonehenge 4000BC. Remember its circular you know.
Even before your timeline by 3000 years.
Also 1stEden has been confirmed against the source information with 2
expeditions and maybe a 3rd one maybe on the way but I dont know that!
Georgeous all you have found is the evidence of religious icons and symbols that
highlights the circle.
The symbols points to religion not Atlantis in the way that you think.
By the way lets see some your images come on buddy Ive posted mine from the word
Go!
Show us now! on this site not your cant get into site!
Come on lets see for ourselves.
Plus your timeline is all wrong and out for Atlantis!
quote:
-5 and -41 meters meters deep
Is that all ranging from 10,000 years/8,000BC to
5-3000BC years.
Man is much older than that and the real cities of truth go back to
500,000-200,000 years ago and Dilmun/Babel 150,000-13,000/11,000BC years
submerged of the coast of Iran and is only 400 years from so called Plato's
Atlantis. Atlantis is Babel/Dilmun and east to west perpetuation of migration of
man and all the symbols are their in each city which is consistent.
Show us the evidence in the data and some images! eh!
quote:
Only in Iberia have appeared these old
concentric circular cities, and only in Iberia have appeared pottery with
these symbols identical to the same concentric circular cities like the
Metropolis of Atlantis, and only in in the Rock Art from Iberia exist the
largest concentration in the World (by thousands) of this same symbol of
Atlantean style.
Come on man there are many cicular cities and
Rockart around Lake Van and other places with the same symbols. Circular cities
which makes a good defense to. Im finding the same in my findings to but the
cities are far more ancient that go way way back further than 8000BC.
Is there any scientific evidence that you actualy have that can be demonstrated
NOW!
Hey have think upon this
quote:
The Urantia Book
In the north the Andites, through warfare and marriage, obliterated the blue
men, but in the south they survived in greater numbers. The Basques and the
Berbers represent the survival of two branches of this race, but even these
peoples have been thoroughly admixed with the Saharans.
This was the picture of race mixture presented in central Europe about 3000
B.C . In spite of the partial Adamic default, the higher types did blend.
These were the times of the New Stone Age overlapping the oncoming Bronze
Age. In Scandinavia it was the Bronze Age associated with mother worship.
In southern France and Spain it was the New Stone Age associated with sun
worship. This was the time of the building of the circular and roofless sun
temples.
The European white races were energetic builders, delighting to set up
great stones as tokens to the sun, much as did their later-day descendants at
Stonehenge.
The vogue of sun worship indicates that this was a great period of
agriculture in southern Europe.
The superstitions of this
comparatively recent sun-worshiping era even now persist in the folkways of
Brittany. Although Christianized for over fifteen hundred years, these
Bretons still retain charms of the New Stone Age for warding off the evil
eye. They still keep thunderstones in the chimney as protection against
lightning. The Bretons never mingled with the Scandinavian Nordics. They are
survivors of the original Andonite inhabitants of western Europe, mixed with
the Mediterranean stock.
And that is exactly what you are
finding, the later stone age overlapping the new bronze age....Not Atlantis
Feel happy man you have found some great artifacts of this age including
agricultural cities that where built perhaps in a circular fashion, reflections
of those circular roofless temples. For all you know what you have uncovered is
simply remnants of the circular temples linked to the solstice for agriculture!
But its not Atlantis home of the Gods, that's is somewhere else. Sorry!
Jean is just one of those circular
agricultural cities of the later stone age.
Maybe the Atlantis Gods are telling
you something!
sevens
posted
05-06-2008 02:25 PM
Gerogeous
When you're filming and waffling about Atlantis just think about the above quote
from the UB and think that you could be so wrong and know it.
The question I pose is that. Are you operating from truth or personal self ego
interest?
Remember the Gods will be watching, listening and scanning your soul motivation
particularly when you have been informed.
There is to much misleading bullshit in this world only to have more crap laden
on man.
Man doesn't want that shit anymore and neither do the Gods and particularly if
one claims to represent them indirectly!
sevens
posted
05-06-2008 02:33 PM
Georgeous.
Your running away again hiding behind so called reports and fluff, your'e
running from reality and the test of your truth.
What so hard to post an image? eh!
Its just gutless wonder pride stuff, all set before a fall in light of truth.
You cant even face the truth let alone Atlantis. How can you claim to have found
Atlantis and represent it when you cant face and combat truth in your face read
by your brain and yet you turn your back in light of perceived opportunity.
You're not even true man.
sevens
posted
05-06-2008 02:33 PM
Georgeous.
Your running away again hiding behind so called reports and fluff, your'e
running from reality and the test of your truth.
What so hard to post an image? eh!
Its just gutless wonder pride stuff, all set before a fall in light of truth.
You cant even face the truth let alone Atlantis. How can you claim to have found
Atlantis and represent it when you cant face and combat truth in your face read
by your brain and yet you turn your back in light of perceived opportunity.
You're not even true man.
All those you sent stuff to will come crashing down to a great holt in all there
so called intelligence in light of the evidence. They dont know a thing either
in there secular atheist crap! There is nothing compared to what is arising in
truth and they will all be speechless and have nothing to say!
They will run from the truth like man typically does to save his skin.
quote:
Well, now I who requires you to show
photos or proofs, to see if you really find cities with the same pattern or
design of Atlantis, ie, concentric circular cities, built through several
concentric circular pits
It open its all free you can investigate if you like, the images are all there
including calculations and the source material Everything.
Included also are 2 expeditions to 1stEden confirming the STONE WALL as written
in the Urantia Book and I heard there was talk of a third expedition, if correct
that 3rd expedition will confirm the 3 co planar circles Van built on top of the
Acropolis Hill. The 3 co planar circles will point to the other cities of the
same symbolism and eventually lead to the Great Pyramid.
You can read it and see and its not complicated and not full of fluff!
You require it, its there for your reading.
I dont hide and runaway like you!
Mind you I have a number of threads here with the research including freely
given images. Why dont have a look eh! rather than all this require crap.
You have been here long enough to read my threads. Or are you just slack!
another diversion of yours from truth.
Remember all you have found is
this...that is all.
quote:
The Urantia Book
In the north the Andites, through warfare and marriage, obliterated the blue
men, but in the south they survived in greater numbers. The Basques and the
Berbers represent the survival of two branches of this race, but even these
peoples have been thoroughly admixed with the Saharans.
This was the picture of race mixture presented in central Europe about 3000
B.C . In spite of the partial Adamic default, the higher types did blend.
These were the times of the New Stone Age overlapping the oncoming Bronze
Age. In Scandinavia it was the Bronze Age associated with mother worship.
In southern France and Spain it was the New Stone Age associated
with sun worship. This was the time of the building of the circular and
roofless sun temples.
The European white races were energetic builders, delighting to set up
great stones as tokens to the sun, much as did their later-day descendants at
Stonehenge.
The vogue of sun worship indicates that this was a great period of
agriculture in southern Europe.
The superstitions of this comparatively recent sun-worshiping era even now
persist in the folkways of Brittany. Although Christianized for over
fifteen hundred years, these Bretons still retain charms of the New Stone
Age for warding off the evil eye. They still keep thunderstones in the
chimney as protection against lightning. The Bretons never mingled with the
Scandinavian Nordics. They are survivors of the original Andonite inhabitants
of western Europe, mixed with the Mediterranean stock.
A fragment posted before that you have
simply avoided and runaway from and including the sea level/time calculation.
sevens
posted
05-06-2008 05:59 PM
Yeah thats right another runner in light of
truth. Even if its false or wrongly percieved it doesnt matter! does it? Just
fulfills your bias doesnt it, thats all that matters, even if its not the truth.
Fair dinkum I just laugh at that. ahahahaha
sevens
posted
05-06-2008 06:31 PM
Hey Guess what!
Im excited all of a sudden there maybe a financial backer who is interested in
funding an expedition to Dalamatia City.
Praise the Lord.
You know I have creditors that are simply not paying there bill and after a
sleepless night tossing and turning thinking about everything I was feeling very
stressed, downtrodden and broke. Just no sleep!
This morning I spoke to a friend of mine returning a phone call and explained
what I was doing in regards to the ancient places and low and behold interest
and who has the funds.
We might very well get there to prove the case of the Father in the Kingdom of
Heaven.
Praise the Lord, I love the Lord God almighty!
Now the real test of begins. Thank the Lord and the beautiful Sevenfold mission.
Praise the Lord!
I cant help praising the Father of the Universal Government.
Sevens
Sudden Volcanic eruption in Chile Wed May 07,
2008 12:39 pm
Apparently its the first time in 9000 years this
volcano has erupted and it wasnt expected. It happened suddenly.
5,000 evacuated as volcano blast meets storm
in the Chilean sky
The collision of two unstoppable forces created a spectacular and rarely
seen sight as lightning flickered around the dust cloud amid the orange
glow of the volcano
Lewis Smith, Environment Reporter
Two of nature’s most spectacular forces produced an incredible brew in the
skies of Chile as a volcanic eruption met a lightning storm.
Tonnes of dust and ash from the eruption of the Chaitén volcano poured
into the night sky just as an electric storm passed overhead.
The resulting collision created a spectacular sight as lightning flickered
around the dust cloud amid the orange glow of the volcano.
The eruption was all the more spectacular because the Chaitén volcano, 800
miles (1,290km) south of Santiago, has been dormant for hundreds — if not
thousands — of years. The Patagonian volcano began erupting on Friday and
the 12-mile-high plume has left vast tracts of land coated with a layer of
ash.
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Authorities in Chile were worried by the violence of the eruption
yesterday when lava spewed out with increased ferocity.
“The situation has changed suddenly,” Rodrigo Rojas, a national emergency
official, said. “Today the volcano is erupting with pyroplastic material
on a different scale.”
Authorities ordered the evacuation of the remaining 300 people from the
area. More than 4,000 people had already been evacuated from the town of
Chaitén, which is six miles from the volcano. Luis Lara, a government
geologist, said “The entire volcano will not collapse, but the eruptive
column could, and that is sufficient material to be displaced into areas
nearby. Lava flow would not reach Chaitén, but hot fragments, ash and gas
could.”
Authorities are evacuating a second town, Futaleufú, which has been coated
with ash. Many of Futaleufú’s 1,000 or so residents had crossed into
Argentina, where some areas have also been showered with ash.
Last week Argentine authorities closed schools and treated a number of
people for breathing problems.
In the worst-affected areas, ash is more than 15cm thick in places,
coating houses, vehicles and trees, and contaminating water supplies.
Sign of the times??
Sevens
posted
05-07-2008 07:17 PM
I found this timeline thing interesting relating
to the word Iran.
The recording of the Urantia Book as I understnad finished in1934
...right!
Here are references to the word Iran in the Urantia Book.
and here is the Date when the name Iran was adopted.
quote:
The country has always been known to its own
people as Iran (land of the Aryans), although for centuries it was referred
to as Persia (Pars or Fars, a province in southern Iran) by the Europeans,
mainly due to the writings of Greek historians. In
1935 the Government specified that it should be called Iran; however,
in 1949 they allowed both names to be used.
The symbol appears to be a diamond with a central circle and 4 circles
surrounding within the diamond.
Anyway that you look at it, it forms the familiar co planar circles.
Unreal to me has all the features of this journey! Maybe the queen is reading
these posts ahahahahahah!
I tell you what, it would be interesting for her if she did and became involved
personally! and it would be so intriguing for her that I feel she would be
inspired actually.
They were amazing links. Pity there wasn't a top view! so we could see the whole
symbol from above.
Thanks Ishtar and thanks for the support in your wisdom about not worrying.
Right on!!!!
Oh by the way, the circles seem
concentric as well.
Each circle in metaphor is like the 5 ancient
places of truth within the triangle of truth. Like a the 5 sided pyramid
where each side is the story of each city that forms a oneness in truth,
discovery and verification.
Extending outside the triangle are more circles
on each side. Again, anyway that you look at it the circles again forms the 3 co
planar circles which are also concentric as same as the inner triangle circles.
Amazing!
Its a real truth carpet!
The tree of life symbol.
The symbols of Universal Government in
the halls of Power in England. Incredible!
That people walked over ahahahah! That would be right! ahaha Now the truth
arises and respect is given to the symbols, like a preparation?? without
realizing it perhaps or perhaps in knowledge of this journey?? Who knows!
Hey all comes from the Land of Brittany, the Younger, Victor the younger. The
land of Britain can mean former colony of Britain or the Land of Sinim! or the
Land of Sevens.
More goals for the Paradise Sevens scoreboard!
Note the face of the Altar, the 3 co
planar circles well almost circles but still 3 co planar!
Sinim: means South country but the
message comes from the far East from the Sons of Israel, the spirit Israel of
brotherhood and unity of all man. That's what the true Israel is.
This points directly to Australia part of the
Commonwealth of Britain being the great Southern country!.
Yeah!!!!! ahahahahaha
Here is an interesting link to Sinim,
the land of Sinim connected to Australia and the Bible codes. Wow!!
Australia was the first nation in the world to vote in the UN in recognition of
the State of Israel. Australia is the Land of Sinim from which a portion of the
Lost Ten Tribes will return (Isaiah 49:12). Did the Ancient Egyptians and
Phoenicians Visit Australia? Did Australia Help Liberate the Holy Land of
Israel?
Sevens
posted
05-07-2008 07:58 PM
Hey Ishtar I worked a way to stop
worrying
ahahahahahah
sevens
posted
05-07-2008 10:37
quote:
We do have algae that can withstand
heat and it would produce oxygen over a period of time. We could send that to
Venus and perhaps that would start the process to claim that hot planet.
But isnt real real Hot on Venus where
nothing would survive including algae and what would the Algae survive on?
sevens
posted
05-07-2008 10:49 PM
With the sea level 120m lower what
would Cadiz look like?
quote:
Cádiz is the most ancient city still standing in western Europe[2].
Traditionally, its founding is dated to 1104 BCE [3] although no
archaeological strata on the site can be dated earlier than the ninth
century. One resolution for this discrepancy has been to assume that Gadir
was merely a small seasonal trading post in its earliest days.
Bit to late for Atlantis, the land of
the Gods, the beginning places isn't it!!???
Cadiz was simply a trading commercial center built by the Phoenicians in around
than the ninth century and even later according to the strata of soil.
There you go. Cadiz is not Atlantis at all
according to scientific DATA not personal ideas.
Atlantis/Cadiz is a fraud waxed upon the people.
There is the proof by science.
ahahahahahaha.
Its just a fraudulent idea.
Its just a fraudulent idea. Cardiz was built well
into the Bronze age after the Latter Stone age in Eroupe.
sevens
posted
05-07-2008 11:15
I thought the following was a very
interesting fragment from the Urantia Book.
quote:
web page
Zoroastrianism is the only Urantian creed that perpetuates the Dalamatian
and Edenic teachings about the Seven Master Spirits . While failing to
evolve the Trinity concept, it did in a certain way approach that of God
the Sevenfold . Original Zoroastrianism was not a pure dualism; though the
early teachings did picture evil as a time co-ordinate of goodness, it was
definitely eternity-submerged in the ultimate reality of the good.
Only in later times did the belief gain credence that good and evil contended
on equal terms.
This project is based on Work and
Action and I think its part of God the Sevenfold for sure.
So who was the Iranian Prince in 600BC
and what is his record handed downb through the ages.
quote:
Finally, upon the conversion of
an Iranian prince, this new religion was spread by the sword. And
Zoroaster heroically died in battle for that which he believed was the
"truth of the Lord of light."
Here is something on the princes in
the 6th Century
quote:
6th century BC: Persians win
the whole of Iran and the Middle East (under kings like Cyrus 2, Kambyses,
Dareios 1). The Persian Empire rules from the capital Perspolis.
Martial arts have an immemorial
background in Iranian history. History of Iran started in 7th B.C century by
migration of Aryans who caused the creation of Medes dynasty that formed the
first civilization in the world. Thereafter Medes divided into several areas
so that in 600 B.C the great Korus, founder of Iran's kingship, captured
Baboul and Ashora in a war and founded Achaemenian dynasty. After him, the
great Daryus who was a powerful king got the sovereign of Iran and tried to
expand the boarder of Iran. He moved forward the boarders to Sibery in north,
China in east, Egypt in west and Persian Golf States in south.
Maybe this prince is the great
Korus
and another fragment
Thereafter Medes divided into several areas so that in 600 B.C the great
Korus, founder of Iran's kingship, capture Baboul and Ashora in a war and
founded Achaemenian dynasty . After him, the great Daryus who was a powerful
king got the sovereign of Iran and tried to expand the boarder of Iran.
He moved forward the boarders to Sibery in north, China in east, Egypt in west
and Persian Golf States in south.
Interesting!
and in this millennium
quote:
Iranian Theists who were
Zoroastrian in that period believed that Islam is a religion that relieves
the oppression and show themselves lots of boldness in obtaining their rights
The Prince that converted by Zoroaster was most
likely the Great Korus, Founder of the Archimedean Empire.
Sevens
The Vans Highland Capital valley in Northern Iran
line 123: This center of civilization was situated in the region east of
the southern end of the Caspian Sea, near the Kopet Dagh. A short way
up in the foothills of Turkestan are the vestiges of what was onetime the
Adamsonite headquarters of the violet race. In these highland sites, situated
in a narrow and ancient fertile belt lying in the lower foothills of the
Kopet range, there successively arose at various periods four diverse
cultures respectively fostered by four different groups of Adamson's
descendants. It was the second of these groups which migrated westward to
Greece and the islands of the Mediterranean. The residue of Adamson's
descendants migrated north and west to enter Europe with the blended stock of
the last Andite wave coming out of Mesopotamia, and they were also numbered
among the Andite-Aryan invaders of India.
Reflections of Vans Highland Capital situated in
a highland narrow Valley and reflections of Migration due to a population growth
which happened 3 times.
First part (1-20). Ahura Mazda proposes to Yima,
the son of Vivanghat, to receive the law from him and to bring it to men. On
his refusal, he bids him keep his creatures and make them prosper. Yima
accordingly makes them thrive and increase, keeps death and disease away from
them, and three times enlarges the earth, which had become too narrow
for its inhabitants.
and reflections of the highest type individuals
are preserved in the highland valley, the Vara.
Second part (21 to the end). On the approach of
a dire winter, which is to destroy every living creature, Yima, being advised
by Ahura, builds a Vara to keep there the finest representatives of every kind
of animals and plants, and they live there a life of perfect happiness.
It is difficult not to acknowledge in the latter legend a
Zoroastrian adaptation of the deluge, whether it was borrowed from the
Bible or from the Chaldaean mythology. The similitude is so striking that
it did not escape the Moslems, and Macoudi states that certain authors place
the date of the deluge in the time of Jamshed. There are essential and
necessary differences between the two legends, the chief one being that in the
monotheistic narration the deluge is sent as a punishment from God, whereas in
the dualistic version it is a plague from the Daevas: but the core of the two
legends is the same: the hero in both is a righteous man who, forewarned by
God, builds a refuge to receive choice specimens of mankind) intended some day
to replace an imperfect humanity, destroyed by a universal calamity
The Ahura Mazda are the secondary Midwayers and
the progeny of Adamson.
line 103:During the days of the
Prince's rule the tree was growing from the earth in the central and
circular courtyard of the Father's temple.
Upon the outbreak of the rebellion it was regrown from the central core by
Van and his associates in their temporary camp.
This Edentia shrub was subsequently taken to their highland retreatVan and Amadon for more than one hundred and fifty thousand years.
, where it served both
The above temporary temple is located in the lower foothills within a long
narrow valley near the Kopet Daugh.
The circular temple of Van seems to
be surrounded by a 5 sided triangle sided by large walls, However it does look
like a circle in a general The temple is in the center of a triangle valley at
the foothills of the highlands.
and the Long narrow Valley
line 104: When Van and his associates made ready the Garden for Adam and
Eve, they transplanted the Edentia tree to the Garden of Eden, where,
once again, it grew in a central, circular courtyard of another temple to the
Father. And Adam and Eve periodically partook of its fruit for the
maintenance of their dual form of physical life.
The 1stGarden of Eden of Cyprus with
its circular temple of the tree of life.
line 103: Van was left on Urantia until the time of Adam, remaining as
titular head of all superhuman personalities functioning on the planet. He
and Amadon were sustained by the technique of the tree of life in conjunction
with the specialized life ministry of the Melchizedeks for
over one hundred and fifty thousand years.
and this fragment of the tree of life
in Dalamatia City
quote:
These antidotal complements of the
Satania life currents were derived from the fruit of the tree of life, a shrub
of Edentia which was sent to Urantia by the Most Highs of Norlatiadek at the
time of Caligastia's arrival.
In the days of Dalamatia this tree grew in the central courtyard of the
temple of the unseen Father, and it was the fruit of the tree of life
that enabled the material and otherwise mortal beings of the Prince's staff to
live on indefinitely as long as they had access to it .
and Dalamatia City, the triangle city
with the circular temple in the middle of the city.
All the above will be essentially the presentation with all the off shoots of
discovery and knowledge with connection.
and this fragment of the destruction
of the tree of life after the default of Adam and Eve in the 1st Eden.
quote:
When the plans of the Material Son
went astray, Adam and his family were not permitted to carry the core of
the tree away from the Garden . When the Nodites invaded Eden ,
they were told that they would become as "gods if they partook of the fruit of
the tree." Much to their surprise they found it unguarded. They ate
freely of the fruit for years, but it did nothing for them; they were all
material mortals of the realm; they lacked that endowment which acted as a
complement to the fruit of the tree. They became enraged at their inability to
benefit from the tree of life, and in connection with one of their internal
wars, the temple and the tree were both destroyed by fire; only the
stone wall stood until the Garden was subsequently submerged . This was
the second temple of the Father to perish
Interesting information about the
stone wall which has been verified already.
Reverent and holy be the name of your all-gracious Son.
Your bounties and your blessings have descended upon us,
Thus empowering us to perform your will and execute your bidding.
Give us moment by moment the sustenance of the tree of life;
Refresh us day by day with the living waters of the river thereof.
Step by step lead us out of darkness and into the divine light.
Renew our minds by the transformations of the indwelling spirit,
And when the mortal end shall finally come upon us,
Receive us to yourself and send us forth in eternity.
Crown us with celestial diadems of fruitful service,
And we shall glorify the Father, the Son, and the Holy Influence.
Even so, throughout a universe without end.
Sevens
posted
05-08-2008 05:09 AM
quote:
The conical structure in front is
more recent. Here, muslims venerate the tomb of the prophet Daniel, another
figure related to the Persian court at Susa. In fact, there were other
capitals (Pasargadae, Persepolis, and Ecbatana), but is evident that Susa
was more impressive . An inscription in the palace, known as DSf,
describes how Darius built his residence
1stSusa was destroyed during the times
of Noah or the floodtimes.
Amazing discovery and just to think Daniel is connected to 2nd Susa with all his
prophecies.
And Jesus is also connected with Susa from the Urantia Book.
The Jesus connection with Susa
quote:
Jesus was much interested in the
early history of Ur, the birthplace of Abraham, and he was equally fascinated
with the ruins and traditions of Susa, so much so that Gonod and Ganid
extended their stay in these parts three weeks in order to afford Jesus
more time to conduct his investigations and also to provide the better
opportunity to persuade him to go back to India with them.
Yes, I wonder if Cyrus of Persia, who
delivered the Jews from Babylon and seen as a Messiah to the captives is a type
of the Cyprus 1stEden connection and knowing that Robert Sarmast originates from
Iran. I find that curious.
I wonder!
Sevens
posted
05-09-2008 04:27 AM
Hi, no worries.
quote:
The pouring out of the Spirit of
Truth provides the spiritual foundation for the realization of great
achievements in the interests of the human race of the bestowal world.
Urantia is therefore far better prepared for the more immediate
realization of a planetary government with its laws, mechanisms,
symbols , conventions, and language--all of which could contribute so
mightily to the establishment of world-wide peace under law and could lead
to the sometime dawning of a real age of spiritual striving; and such an
age is the planetary threshold to the utopian ages of light and life
.
This journey to the first places I believe reflects the above and does fulfill "immediate realization of a planetary government"
sevens
posted
05-09-2008 04:36 AM
Hi Great chapter Ishtar
I found a few fragments I liked in it.
quote:
5 And the heavens shall praise thy wonders, O
LORD: thy faithfulness also in the congregation of the saints.
6 For who in the heaven can be compared unto the LORD? Who among the sons of
the mighty can be likened unto the LORD?
7 God is greatly to be feared in the assembly of the saints, and to be had in
reverence of all them that are about him.
There is many more that I connect with.
Sevens
posted
05-09-2008 05:08 AM
I think this fragment is the greatest
hint and I think the first places is what they are referring to but aqre
restricted as Man has to work this out himself.
quote:
12. THE OTHER NATIONS
Although the society and government of this unique people are in many respects
superior to those of the Urantia nations, it should be stated that on the
other continents (there are eleven on this planet) the governments are
decidedly inferior to the more advanced nations of Urantia.
Just now this superior government is planning to establish ambassadorial
relations with the inferior peoples, and for the first time a great religious
leader has arisen who advocates the sending of missionaries to these
surrounding nations. We fear they are about to make the mistake that so many
others have made when they have endeavored to force a superior culture and
religion upon
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other races. What a wonderful thing could be done on this world if this
continental nation of advanced culture would only go out and bring to itself
the best of the neighboring peoples and then, after educating them, send them
back as emissaries of culture to their benighted brethren! Of course, if a
Magisterial Son should soon come to this advanced nation, great things could
quickly happen on this world.
This recital of the affairs of a neighboring planet is made by special
permission with the intent of advancing civilization and augmenting
governmental evolution on Urantia. Much more could be narrated that would no
doubt interest and intrigue Urantians, but this disclosure covers the limits
of our permissive mandate.
Urantians should, however, take note that their sister sphere in the Satania
family has benefited by neither magisterial nor bestowal missions of the
Paradise Sons. Neither are the various peoples of Urantia set off from each
other by such disparity of culture as separates the continental nation from
its planetary fellows.
The pouring out of the Spirit of Truth provides the spiritual foundation for
the realization of great achievements in the interests of the human race of
the bestowal world. Urantia is therefore far better prepared for the more
immediate realization of a planetary government with its laws, mechanisms,
symbols, conventions, and language--all of which could contribute so mightily
to the establishment of world-wide peace under law and could lead to the
sometime dawning of a real age of spiritual striving; and such an age is the
planetary threshold to the utopian ages of light and life.
Hint, hint!! Its like there hinting to
us through the example of this neighboring sister sphere.
Sevens
posted
05-09-2008 06:12 AM
quote:
The Trinity Teacher Sons may return
many times to the same world. But sooner or later, in connection with the
termination of one of their missions, the Planetary Prince is elevated to the
position of Planetary Sovereign, and the System Sovereign appears to proclaim
the entrance of such a world upon the era of light and life.
It was of the conclusion of the terminal mission of the Teacher Sons (at least
that would be the chronology on a normal world) that John wrote: "I saw a
new heaven and a new earth and the new Jerusalem coming down from God out of
heaven, prepared as a princess adorned for the prince."
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This is the same renovated earth, the advanced planetary stage, that the olden
seer envisioned when he wrote: "`For, as the new heavens and the new earth,
which I will make, shall remain before me, so shall you and your children
survive; and it shall come to pass that from one new moon to another and from
one Sabbath to another all flesh shall come to worship before me,' says the
Lord."
It is the mortals of such an age who are described as "a chosen generation,
a royal priesthood, a holy nation, an exalted people; and you shall show forth
the praises of Him who has called you out of darkness into this marvelous
light."
No matter what the special natural history of an individual planet may be, no
difference whether a realm has been wholly loyal, tainted with evil, or cursed
by sin--no matter what the antecedents may be-- sooner or later the grace
of God and the ministry of angels will usher in the day of the advent of the
Trinity Teacher Sons; and their departure, following their final mission, will
inaugurate this superb era of light and life.
All the worlds of Satania can join in the hope of the one who wrote:
"Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for a new heaven and a new
earth, wherein dwells righteousness. Wherefore, beloved, seeing that you look
for such things, be diligent that you may be found by Him in peace, without
spot and blameless."
The departure of the Teacher Son corps, at the end of their first or some
subsequent reign, ushers in the dawn of the era of light and life-- the
threshold of the transition from time to the vestibule of eternity. The
planetary realization of this era of light and life far more than equals the
fondest expectations of Urantia mortals who have entertained no more
farseeing concepts of the future life than those embraced within religious
beliefs which depict heaven as the immediate destiny and final dwelling place
of surviving mortals
I wrote to the Catholic Church and they responded. Perhaps they may look into
the matter see what happens.
Personally, I feel happy about that as this is the first institution that I have
wrote to and that have responded.
I have written to bible colleges and other religions who never even bothered to
respond and this is the first response I ever had.
See what happens eh!
I still find it interesting that the stone carpet is being cleaned I wonder what
thought process brought that cleaning about?? Its like the symbol is being
prepared and cleaned for a reason or in response!
I still find that curious.
Consider also that the Queen is the head of the Church of England and Im sure
they are aware of this journey as I did write to the British high commission and
informed them of my emails I sent to Iran at the time of the detention of the
British marines. Its even more interesting that 24 hours after I wrote the
emails to Iran that the marines where released.
Coincidence or an informed decision I dont know. However, in the news release
from Iran I found curiously many references that I could relate to in the
circumstance.
It just could be that they have been following this thread of truth and are
cleaning all the symbols of truth pictured on there floors and walls.
Spring cleaning in preparation of the advent of truth just like a mother or a
Queen would in cleaning the house and symbols before the advent of truth.
I see beauty in that and I know this is a fine path which gives solid direction
with reassurance to the people of Britain, if not the rest of the world.
Fantasy or reality we have to see the manifestation of the on going reality in
the journey to the ancient places, the former things that point to the future
destiny of mankind.
In my heart, I would want the Queen to be involved in this journey to the
ancient places in her own way. I believe it would very beautiful for her and for
the rest of the nation as it would uplift everyone's soul. I also believe quite
strongly that England and its people and of the Commonwealth will be highly
successfull in this great Seventh mystery of the Father. I feel in my hunches
that there is respect given in this journey at the highest levels and the Father
will respond favorably.
Personally, I feel many Western countries will be successfull as they will be
quickened and will recognize the truth and will respond with love.
And I know the USA will be successful and the Union will stand because George
Washington said so and I have all faith in George Washington and his prophecies
will be fulfilled.
These are the nations that will be successfull and who will embrace and respond
deep in their hearts to the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven.
The Lord of all Lords!
Sevens
posted
05-09-2008 02:11 PM sounds
like a spiritual temple rather than physical temple being rebuilt or perhaps a
living temple like a living journey of truth. Something that is dynamic and not
static like stone and yet set in stone on the spiritual level in truth, beauty
and goodness.
sevens
posted
05-09-2008 02:11 PM
sounds like a spiritual temple rather
than physical temple being rebuilt or perhaps a living temple like a living
journey of truth. Something that is dynamic and not static like stone and yet
set in stone on the spiritual level in truth, beauty and goodness.
great extracts in the above
I liked this one
quote:
Rev 21:24 And the nations of them
which are saved shall walk in the light of it : and the kings of the
earth do bring their glory and honour into it .
confirms my last post.
sevens
posted
05-09-2008 02:28 PM
The Odes of Solomon is all about this
journey.
quote:
Odes of Solomon
ODE 29.
1 The Lord is my hope: in Him I shall not be confounded.
2 For according to His praise He made me, and according to His goodness even
so He gave unto me:
3 And according to His mercies He exalted me: and according to His excellent
beauty He set me on high:
4 And brought me up out of the depths of Sheol: and from the mouth of death He
drew me:
5 And thou didst lay my enemies low and He justified me by His grace. 6 For I believed in the Lord's Messiah: and it appeared to me that He is
the Lord;
7 And He showed him His sign: and He led, me by His light, and gave me the rod
of His power
8 That I might subdue the imaginations of the peoples; and the power of the
men of might to bring them low: 9 To make war by His word, and to take victory by His power.
10 And the Lord overthrew my enemy by His word: and he became like the stubble
which the wind carries away; 11 And I gave praise to the Most High because He exalted me His servant and
the son of His handmaid. Hallelujah.
ODE 30.
1 Fill ye waters for yourselves from the living fountain, of the Lord, for
it is opened to you:
2 And come all ye thirsty and take the draught; and rest by the fountain of
the Lord.
3 For fair it is and pure and gives rest to the soul, Much ore pleasant are
its waters than honey;
4 And the honeycomb of bees is not to be compared with it.
5 For it flows forth from the lips of the Lord and from the heart of the Lord
is its name. 6 And it came infinitely and invisibly: and until it was set in the midst
they did not know it:
7 Blessed are they who have drunk there from and have found rest thereby.
Hallelujah.
All of Solomon's Odes I recognize in
this journey to the former places. Every single one of them I recognize as a
personal experience living through the End times in its construct.
and this one from Isaiah 49 which I
think is all about this journey specifically.
quote:
7 Thus saith the Lord, the Redeemer
of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation
abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also
shall worship, because of the Lord that is faithful, and the Holy One of
Israel, and he shall choose thee.
8 Thus saith the Lord, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and
in a day of salvation have I helped thee: and I will preserve thee, and
give thee for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to
cause to inherit the desolate heritages;
9 That thou mayest say to the prisoners, Go forth; to them that are in
darkness, Shew yourselves. They shall feed in the ways, and their pastures
shall be in all high places.
10 They shall not hunger nor thirst; neither shall the heat nor sun smite
them: for he that hath mercy on them shall lead them, even by the springs
of water shall he guide them.
11 And I will make all my mountains a way, and my highways shall be
exalted.
12 Behold, these shall come from far: and, lo, these from the north and from
the west; and these from the land of Sinim.
Praise the Lord, you know. Its all
about this journey and I think this journey is fulfilling the above Isaiah 49.
This living journey is all of the above from the Land of the South or Sinim.
Sevens
posted
05-09-2008 02:52 PM
Personally I think much of the end
times thought and perceptions are just fear based and man has not got over his
fear thereby restricting his already spiritual victory and limiting his
interpretations of scripture to fear levels thereby spreading fear with really
limited and narrow perceptions of no worth.
In actual truth the Anti Christ is already defeated and has no spiritual effect
in the truth. The Anti Christ is all ready finished and gone. I live the
spiritual victory today not in some other future time. Now is the time
where the truth is present and is ready to free the captives of fear and fear
mongering.
Even if he is to arise he is already finished he might as well look for a new
career.
Sevens
posted
05-09-2008 03:07 PM Here
is the number of the Ghostbusters
555 7777
sevens
ahahahahahahah
posted
05-09-2008 03:44 PM
Here is a video of Jiroft which contains reflections of the Nodite civilisation.
Dilmun to the East of Dalamatia City was built 200,000 years ago but eventually
migrated to the North near Elam as subsistence was difficult at that time to
cater for the population.
Reflections of this ancient culture can be seen in the peculiar artifacts found
in Jiroft, Iran.
The same artifacts are spoken about in the Urantia Book.
quote:
It was during the floodtimes that
Susa so greatly prospered. The first and lower city was inundated so
that the second or higher town succeeded the lower as the headquarters for
the peculiar artcrafts of that day . With the later diminution of these
floods, Ur became the center of the pottery industry. About seven thousand
years ago Ur was on the Persian Gulf, the river deposits having since built up
the land to its present limits. These settlements suffered less from the
floods because of better controlling works and the widening mouths of the
rivers.
and this Gem
And all this explains how the Sumerians appeared so suddenly and mysteriously
on the stage of action in Mesopotamia. Investigators will never be able to
trace out and follow these tribes back to the beginning of the Sumerians,
who had their origin two hundred thousand years ago after the submergence of
Dalamatia . Without a trace of origin elsewhere in the world, these
ancient tribes suddenly loom upon the horizon of civilization with a
full-grown and superior culture, embracing temples, metalwork, agriculture,
animals, pottery, weaving, commercial law, civil codes, religious ceremonial,
and an old system of writing. At the beginning of the historical era they
had long since lost the alphabet of Dalamatia, having adopted the peculiar
writing system originating in Dilmun. The Sumerian language, though
virtually lost to the world, was not Semitic; it had much in common with
the so-called Aryan tongues.
And now the Video of Jiroft which reflects this ancient culture that located is
very near to Dilmun of the East, the capital of the central group of the
Nodites. Perhaps Dilmun of the East is near Quarna island near the Persian
heads?
Also the language of the Nodites was
more Ayran than Semetic and clearly points to Iran, more than any other place as
the location of the Dilmuns both North(Submerged Elam) and to the East, East of
Dalamatia City near the Heads of the Persian Gulf.
Susa, first and lower is a short distance West of Dilmun to the North near the
mouths of the rivers.
Also Arratta maybe a reflection of the Ratta at Van highland capital in North
Eastern Iran surrounded by mountains in the Khorason, the jewel of Khorason.
Ratta was Adamsons wife, Adamson was the eldest Son of Adam, Ratta his wife was
the last pure lineage that originated from the Sons of Gods who defaulted in
Dalamatia City and who built the Dilmuns there after.
Ratta was the last of her line and is perhaps reflected in the name ArRatta.
Note the triangle design of this vase
from Jiroft, the same layout as Dalamatia City perpetuated through Jiroft and no
doubt handed down from Dilmun to the East of Dalamatia City submerged in the
Persian Gulf.
more art from Jiroft
and here is script writings of Jiroft
which ultimately derived from Dilmun to the East. A script completely different
to Sumerian text but did influence Sumerian texts in Mesopotamia.
and note the concentric circles in
this artifact.
and the environment around Jiroft.
Sevens
posted
05-09-2008 04:43 PM
I agree, only because man doesn't have
the truth and access to it.
In my view!
sevens
Here is triangle decorated vault in
Kashan, Iran near Vans valley near Khorason.
"Vault decorations of Bazzar"
Note the triangles and diamonds and how some of them are co planar and note also
how it reflects a very distant design of the first cities of the Sons of God.
and note by design again the co planar circle at the entrance of this Portal of
the main portico and the wind towers of Borujerdi House.... Curious
and here are some ruins in Eshafan that again display a 3 coplanar circular top
view.
Curious and interesting!
Here is reflection of previous
cultures of commonality in design found near the Sialk Hills near Kashan
The vase looks very similar in its art design, triangles and all very similar to
that found in 2nd Susa and in Jiroft. All the same symbols.
Sevens
posted
05-09-2008 05:22 PM
Nature?? change what do you mean? Im
really just talking about mans spirituality and the truth of everything.
Yes, its all fascinating seeing reflections of the same symbols everywhere. Even
in Dubai!
sevens
posted
05-09-2008 05:45 PM
Reflections of Sialk Civilisation
another Elamite branch of the Northern and with connections with Central Nodites
in Iran near the Persian heads.
quote:
Sialk Civilisation from the
Wikipedia
Sialk is a large ancient archeological site near Kashan, Iran, tucked away in
the suburbs of the city of Kashan, in central Iran, close to Fin Garden. The
culture that inhabited this area has been linked to the Zayandeh Rud
Civilization.[1]
The Sialk ziggurat has 3 platforms, and was built ca. 2900 BC. However, the
earliest archeological remains of the north mound date back to the middle
of the 6th millennium BC, i.e. about 7500 years ago. A joint study between
Iran's Cultural Heritage Organization, The Louvre, and Institute Francais de
Recherche en Iran also verifies the oldest settlements in Sialk to date
back to 5500 BC - 6000 BC.
Very interesting it seems that all
these cultures in Iran do have commonality and have connection to a very ancient
civilisation.
and here is connection to Khuzestan
quote:
Khuzestan is the most ancient
Iranian province[citation needed] and is often referred to as the
"birthplace of the nation," since this is where the Persians one of the
branches of Aryan tribes first settled, assimilating the native Elamite
population, and thus laying the foundation for the future dynastic empires
of Achaemenid, Parthia and Sasanid.
Khuzestan points directly to this
ancient Nodite Culture that goes so far back that its incredible.
here is a map
An artist rendition of Sialk Ziggurat.
Sevens
posted
05-09-2008 06:03
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no worries wireless, I always appreciate your help and thoughts, Im just so
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Im truly fascinated with things and particularly on the nature of things
ahahahaha.
Popularity Ranking:
This name is not ranked in the top 1000 most popular names for the years 1990
through 2003.
Numerology: Expression Number 7: People with this name are excellent at analyzing,
understanding, and learning. They tend to be mystics, philosophers, scholars,
and teachers. Because they live so much in the mind, they tend to be quiet and
introspective, and are usually introverts. When presented with issues, they will
see the larger picture. Their solitary thoughtfulness and analysis of people and
world events may make them seem aloof, and sometimes even melancholy.
BATHSHEBA
"BATHSHEBA" is a name that signifies or is derived from: "a
daughter of the oath", "the seventh daughter", "the daughter of
satiety".
(n.)
The French word answering to the English abbot, the head of an abbey; but
commonly a title of respect given in France to every one vested with the
ecclesiastical habit or dress.
"The Tabernacle of the
Cause of God is great. It shall embrace all the communities of the world."
-- Baha'o'llah.
"Ere long God shall unfurl the Standards of His Sovereignty over every
city." -- Baha'o'llah.
"Soon ye shall observe the Cause victorious over all those who live upon
the earth, and His Effulgence radiating from all directions. --
Baha'o'llah.
About sixty years ago, Baha'o'llah penned the above prophetic words,
predicting that a time would come when His great Message of universal
brotherhood would be spread all over the world, and the Standard of
International Peace would be unfurled over all the regions of the globe.
It was left for Abdul Baha, the Center of the Covenant, to write
down the great Charters of Spiritual Democracy, the Covenant of a League
of Nations, not based upon political treaties and dynastic or imperial
ambitions but founded on the pure Word of God, created by the consummate
wisdom of the Almighty, illumined by the light of Truth and upheld by the
Spirit of Divine Revelation. These Magna Chartas of Universal Religion
which we have unveiled so far, are our true and unerring guides, and once
we begin to realize their importance and put into practice their contents,
the scope of our services to the world of humanity will become world-wide,
our eagerness to serve our follow men in all the departments of life will
be more expressive of actual accomplishments, our idealism will be merged
little by little into spiritual realism, our love for mankind will break
all the national and religious prejudices and our deeds will exceed our
words a hundred thousandfold.
The Tablet that I am going to read to you at this session is
addressed to the Bahai Assemblies in the United States and Canada, and
contains the most wonderful instructions for their guidance in their
future work in the Cause. Abdul Baha has already told us how to go about
and spread the Word of God in Canada, the United States, Mexico, the West
Indies, Central America, South America and the Islands surrounding this
Western hemisphere. In this Seventh Tablet he instructs us to take a few
steps further and travel throughout the Islands of the Pacific Ocean,
Australia, New Zealand, Tasmania, Asia, Africa and Europe, and in these
countries ignite the fire of the Love of God and promote the principles of
the Oneness of the world of humanity.
The population of the whole world, according to the most reliable
census, is about 1,610,000,000 souls, and Abdul Baha's supreme aim is to
make them all sons of God, heirs and angels of the Kingdom, flowers of the
rose-garden of perfection and stars of the heaven of a beatified humanity.
His earnest prayers are that no soul be deprived of the Bounties of God,
that all race, and all peoples be submerged in the sea of God's Mercy,
that the Sun of Reality may shine upon all, that the darkness of
prejudices may be dispelled and the rivers of love and tenderness flow
from all hearts.
[page 55]
When the Center of the Covenant was
in this country, he delivered a talk on May 1st, 1912, in Chicago,
at the Dedication of the Mashrokel-Azkar grounds, from which I would
like to quote just a short paragraph. In the light of these New Tablets,
we can now comprehend his statement on that occasion, but I dare say very
few could grasp its full significance and import at the time. He said:
"But this Mashrekol-Azkar, being the first one in the Occident, has great
importance. In after years there will be many Mashrekol-Azkars;
even in this city of Chicago many will be
established; in Asia there will be many. In Europe there
will be many. Even in Africa there will be many. Even in
Australia and New Zealand."
(The Urantia Book was recorded in Chicago in 1932)
You observe that in these few words he has given us the epitome of
his present Divine Plan -- years ago. In all probability he desired even
at that time to prepare us for the wonderful Revelation of this Day.
We know quite well that this world of ours has many races and
tribes, but through the law of scientific classification the historians
and geographers have reduced them into four groups.
1. The white or Caucasian people, consisting of 770 millions, are
the largest and the most highly civilized.
2. The black or Ethiopian races consist of 175 millions,
inhabitating mainly Africa, and a few millions in other parts of the
world.
3. The yellow or Mongolian people are about 540 millions, all of
whom live in Asia, mostly in China and Japan.
4. The red man or American Indian -- approximately 99. millions, a
few living on this continent and the rest in South America.
All these people, living from the Arctic to the Antarctic, in all
latitudes and longitudes, in the North, South and torrid zones, must come
to know God and His Revelation in this latter day, and be taught the
lessons of the brotherhood of all mankind. This is indeed a great
responsibility for the Bahais who have gathered here to hear the message
of Abdul Baha -- and to put into execution his heavenly Teachings.
Let us now listen attentively to this Seventh Great Tablet, which
was revealed on Tuesday morning, April 11, 1916, in Bahajee, near the
Blessed Tomb of Baha'o'llah:
"To the believers and the maid-servants of the Merciful of the Bahai
Assemblies and meetings in the United States and Canada!
He is God!
"O ye real Bahais of America!
"Praise be to His Highness the Desired One that ye have become
confirmed in the promotion of Divine Teachings in that vast Continent,
raised the Call of the Kingdom of God in that region and announced the
Glad-tiding of the Manifestation of the Lord of Hosts and His Highness the
Promised One. Thanks be unto the Lord that ye have become assisted and
confirmed in this Aim. This is purely through the Confirmations of the
Lord of Hosts and the Breaths of the Holy Spirit.
At present your Confirmation is not known and
understood. Ere long ye shall observe that each one of you like
unto a brilliant and shining star will diffuse the Light of Guidance from
that horizon and that ye have become the cause of the Eternal Life to the
inhabitants of America.
[page 56]
was not known, and no one looked on them with the feeling of importance --
nay, rather, they persecuted and ridiculed them. Later on it became
evident what crowns studded with the brilliant jewels of guidance were
placed on the heads of the apostles, Mary Magdalene and Mary the
mother of John.
"Likewise your confirmation is not known at the present time. I hope that
ere long It may throw a mighty reverberation through the pillars of the
earth. Therefore it is the hope of Abdul Baha that just as ye are
confirmed and assisted on the Continent of America, ye may also be
confirmed and assisted in other Continents of the globe: -- that is,
ye may carry I the fame of the Cause of God to the
East and to the West and spread the Glad-tiding of the appearance of the
Kingdom of the Lord of Hosts throughout the five Continents of the
world.
"When this Divine Call travels from the Continent of America to
Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia and the Islands of the Pacific, the
American believers shall be established on the throne of Everlasting
Glory, the fame of their illumination and guidance shall reach to all
regions and the renown of their greatness become world-wide.
Therefore, a party, speaking the languages, severed, holy, sanctified and
filled with the love of God, must turn their faces to and travel through
the three great Island groups of the Pacific Ocean, -- Polynesia,
Micronesia and Mylanesia, and the Islands attached to these groups, such
as New Guinea, Borneo, Java, Sumatra, Philippine Island Solomon Islands,
Fiji Islands, New Hebrides, Loyalty Islands, New Caledonia, Bismarck
Archipelago, Ceram, Celebes, Friendly Islands, Samoa Islands, Society
Islands, Caroline Islands, Low Archipelago, Marquesas, Hawaiian Islands,
Gilbert Islands, Moluccas, Marshall Islands, Timor and the other Islands.
With hearts overflowing with the Love of God, with tongues
commemorating the mention of God, with eyes turned to the Kingdom of God,
they must deliver the Glad-tiding of the Manifestation of the Lord of
Hosts to all the people, Know ye of a certainty that in whatever meeting
ye may enter, in the apex of that meeting the Holy Spirit shall he waving
and the heavenly Confirmations of the Blessed Perfection will encompass
all.
"Consider ye, that Miss Agnes Alexander, the daughter of the
Kingdom, the beloved maid-servant of the Blessed Perfection, travelled
alone to Hawaii and the Island of Honolulu, and now she is gaining
spiritual victories in Japan! Reflect ye how this daughter was confirmed
in the Hawaiian Islands. She became the cause of the guidance of a
gathering of people.
"Likewise Miss Knobloch travelled alone to Germany. To what a great
extent she became confirmed! Therefore, know ye of a certainty that
whosoever arises in this day to diffuse the Divine Fragrances, the Cohorts
of the Kingdom of God shall confirm him and the Bestowals and the Favors
of the Blessed Perfection shall encircle him.
"O how I long that it would be made possible for me to travel
through these parts, even if necessary on foot and with the utmost
poverty, and while passing through the cities, villages, mountains,
deserts and oceans, cry at the top of my voice: 'Ya Baha El Abha!' and
promote the Divine Teachings. But now this is not feasible for me,
therefore I live in great regret; perchance, God willing, ye may become
assisted therein.
[page 57]
"At this time, in the Islands of Hawaii, through the efforts of Miss
Alexander, a number of souls have reached the shore of the sea of Faith!
Consider ye, what happiness, what joy is this! I declare by the Lord of
Hosts that had this respected daughter founded an empire, that Empire
would not have been so great! For this sovereignty is eternal Sovereignty
and this glory is Everlasting Glory.
"Likewise, if some teachers go to other Islands and other parts,
such as the Continent of Australia, New Zealand, Tasmania, also to Japan,
Asiatic Russia, Korea, French Indo-China, Siam, Straits Settlements,
India, Ceylon and Afghanistan, most great results will be forthcoming. How
good would it be were there any possibility of a commission composed of
men and women, to travel together through China and Japan, -- so that this
bond of love may become strengthened, and through this going and coming
they may establish the oneness of the world of humanity, summon the people
to the Kingdom of God and spread the Teachings.
"Similarly, if possible, they should travel to the Continent of
Africa, Canary Islands, Cape Verde Islands, Madeira Islands, Reunion
Islands, St. Helena, Zanzibar, Mauritius, etc., and in those countries
summon the people to the Kingdom of God and raise the cry of: 'Ya Baha El
Abha!' They must also upraise the Flag of the Oneness of the world of
humanity in the Island of Madagascar,
"Books and pamphlets must be either translated or composed in the
languages of these countries and Islands, to be circulated in every part
and in all directions.
"It is said that in South Africa, a diamond is discovered. Although
this mine is most valuable, yet after all it is stone. Perchance, God
willing, the mine of humanity may he discovered and the brilliant pearls
of the Kingdom be found.
"In brief, this world-consuming war has set such a conflagration to
the hearts that no word call describe it. In all the countries of the
world the longing for Universal Peace is taking possession of the
consciousness of men. There is not a soul who does not yearn for Concord
and Peace. A most wonderful state of receptivity is being realized. This
is through the consummate Wisdom of God, so that capacity may be created,
the Standard of the oneness of the world of humanity be upraised, and the
fundamentals of Universal Peace and the Divine Principles be promoted in
the East and the West.
"Therefore, O ye believers of God! Show ye an effort and after this
war spread ye the synopsis of the Divine Teachings in the British Isles,
France, Germany, Austria-Hungary, Russia, Italy, Spain, Belgium,
Switzerland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Holland, Portugal, Roumania, Serbia,
Montenegro, Bulgaria, Greece, Andora, Liechtenstein, Luxemburg, Monaco,
San Marine, Balearic Isles, Corsica, Sardinia, Sicily, Crete, Malta,
Iceland, Faroe Islands, Shetland Islands, Hebrides and Orkney Islands.
"In all these countries, like unto the morning stars shine ye from
the horizon of Guidance. Up to this time you have displayed great
magnanimity, but after this, ye must add a thousand times to your effort
and throughout the above countries, capitals, islands, meetings and
churches, invite mankind to the Kingdom of Abha! The circle of your
exertion must become widened.
[page 58]
The more it is broadened and extended, the greater will be your
confirmation.
"Ye have observed that while Abdul Baha was in the utmost bodily weakness
and feebleness, while he was indisposed, and had not the power to move --
notwithstanding this physical state he travelled through many countries,
in Europe and America, and in churches, meetings and conventions was
occupied with the promotion of the Divine Principles and summoned the
people to the manifestation of the Kingdom of Abha. Ye have also observed
how the Confirmations of the Blessed Perfection encompassed all. What
result is forthcoming from material rest, tranquility, luxury and
attachment to this corporeal world! It is evident that the man who pursues
these things will in the end become afflicted with regret and loss.
"Consequently, one must close his eyes wholly to these thoughts,
long for Eternal Life, the Sublimity of the world of humanity, the
celestial developments the Holy Spirit, the promotion of the Word of God,
the guidance of the inhabitants of the globe, the promulgation of
Universal Peace and the proclamation of the Oneness of the world Of
humanity! This is the work! Otherwise like unto other animals and
birds one must occupy himself with the requirements of this physical life,
the satisfaction of which is the highest aspiration of the animal kingdom,
and one must stalk across the earth like unto the quadrupeds.
"Consider ye! No matter how much man gains wealth, riches and
opulence in this world, he will not become as independent as a cow. For
these fattened cows roam freely over the vast tableland. All the prairies
and meadows are theirs for grazing, and all the springs and rivers are
theirs for drinking! No matter how much they graze, the fields will not be
exhausted! It is evident that they have earned these material bounties
with the utmost facility.
"Still more ideal than this is the life of the bird. A bird, on the
summit of a mountain, on the high, waving branches, has built for itself a
nest more beautiful than the palaces of the kings! The air is in the
utmost purity, the water cool and clear as crystal, the panorama charming
and enchanting. In such glorious surroundings, he expends his numbered
days. All the harvests of the plain are his possessions, having earned all
this wealth without the least labor, hence, no matter how much man may
advance in this world, he shall not attain to the station of this bird!
Thus it becomes evident that in the matters of this world, however much
man may strive and work to the point of death, he will be unable to earn
the abundance, the freedom and the independent life of a small bird. This
proves and establishes the fact that man is not created for the life of
this ephemeral world: -- nay, rather, is he created for the acquirement of
infinite perfections, for the attainment to the sublimity of the world of
humanity, to be drawn nigh unto the Divine Threshold, and to sit on the
throne of Everlasting Sovereignty!" Upon ye be Baha El Abha!
Supplication.
"Any soul starting on a trip of teaching to various parts,
and while sojourning in strange countries, may peruse the following
Supplication: -- day and night.
"O God! O God! Thou seest me enamored and attracted toward Thy
[page 59]
Kingdom, the El Abha, enkindled with the Fire of Thy Love amongst
mankind, a herald of Thy Kingdom in these vast and spacious countries,
severed from aught else save Thee, relying on Thee, abandoning rest and
comfort, remote front my native home, a wanderer in these regions, a
stranger fallen on the ground, humble before Thy Exalted Threshold,
submissive toward Thy Most High Realm, supplicating Thee in the middle of
nights and in the heart of evenings, entreating and invoking Thee in the
morn and eve; -- so that Thou mayest assist me in the service of Thy
Cause, the promotion of Thy Teachings and the exaltation of Thy Word in
the Easts of the Earth and the Wests thereof.
"O Lord! Strengthen my back and confirm me in Thy servitude with all my
powers, and do not leave me alone and by myself in these countries.
"O Lord! Associate with me in my loneliness and accompany me in my
journeys through these foreign lands.
"Verily, Thou art the Confirmer of whomsoever Thou wiliest in that
which Thou desirest, and verily Thou art the Powerful, the Omnipotent:
According to one article on an Islamic web-site the name
of the Iraqi holy city of Krabala may have existed before the 7th century Arab
conquest. The Assyrian version of the name seems to be 'Gorbala' which
means 'near God' in the Syriac language. This conclusion may be
corroborated by the name of a village near it called Ninwa a namesake of the
Assyrian Capital city located some 400 miles to the north, near Mosul. The
existence of the second Ninwa is attested to by mentions of it's name along
with Karbala and two other towns in the original eulogies to Immam al
-Hussein.
The ruins of a Church near Karbala preceding the
Immam Abbes Mosque provides further evidence that the town was inhabited
by the Christian Assyrians before it became a Moslem city. The following
article From the Egyptian Newspaper al-Ahram provides further proof of this
fact.
Other Assyrian churches were also appropriated and turned
into the Mosques. The 13th century Ibn-Battuta noted that the Nabi Yunus
mosque of Nineveh was once a Christian church before being confiscated by the
Arabs. The Arab name for this mosque means Prophet Jonah which is exact
translation of the Assyrian "Yonan Nveya". The edifice still stands and
according to Wigram it was once the cathedral of the independent patriarch of
Nineveh.
posted
05-09-2008 07:56 PM
Here might be evidence of the early
Eastern Abnerian Christian churches before Islam over ran the area and churches.
The first leader of the Eastern Christian Church was Abner who headquarters was
in Philadelphia. His church perpetuated through the 70 exBaptist followers.
Abner and the Seventy had direct contact with Jesus.
quote:
Christian Assyrian Heritage of Iraq
Before Islam
By looking at Iraq today one can hardly imagine that once its population
was mostly Christian Assyrians but it is a fact that is seldom acknowledged.
The Moslem majority often views and treats the Christian Assyrians as
uninvited foreigners in their own country.
The Assyrian legacy of Iraq before and during the early centuries of the
Arab Conquest remains buried under the Islamic culture which has been
superimposed over it since, but with little digging it becomes evident.
According to one article on an Islamic web-site the name of the Iraqi holy
city of Krabala may have existed before the 7th century Arab conquest. The
Assyrian version of the name seems to be 'Gorbala' which means 'near
God' in the Syriac language. This conclusion may be corroborated by the
name of a village near it called Ninwa a namesake of the Assyrian Capital city
located some 400 miles to the north, near Mosul. The existence of the second
Ninwa is attested to by mentions of it's name along with Karbala and two other
towns in the original eulogies to Immam al -Hussein.
The ruins of a Church near Karbala preceding the Immam Abbes Mosque
provides further evidence that the town was inhabited by the Christian
Assyrians before it became a Moslem city. The following article From the
Egyptian Newspaper al-Ahram provides further proof of this fact.
Other Assyrian churches were also appropriated and turned into the Mosques
. The 13th century Ibn-Battuta noted that the Nabi Yunus mosque of Nineveh
was once a Christian church before being confiscated by the Arabs. The
Arab name for this mosque means Prophet Jonah which is exact translation of
the Assyrian "Yonan Nveya". The edifice still stands and according to
Wigram it was once the cathedral of the independent patriarch of Nineveh.
The medieval Assyrian writer Bar Saliva acknowledges this fact and states that
the person buried in the site is patriarch Hannan Yeshua of the church of
the East (Abners Church of Philadelphia) who was elected to that office
during the caliphate of Abd 'ool-Melek ibn Merwan, cir. AD 686. He further
adds : "Hannan-Yeshua resided in the convent of the Yonan Nveya, which is
situated on the western side of the wall of Nineveh facing the eastern
gates of Mosul, and the river Tigris separates the cities."
Badger reported that in the 18th century a coffin was discovered within the
precincts of a mosque in Mosul which previously was a church. The coffin
contained several Syriac books dating back to mid 13th century. One of the
books dedicated to Mar Ignatius, Patriarch of Antioch and lord Mar Yohannan
the Catholicos and Maphriano of Tekrit and Nineveh indicated that originally
the edifice was known as "the Church of Cross" belonged to a large
community of Syrian Jacobites centered in Tekrit.
(George Percy Badger, "Nestorians and the Their Rituals" A mission to
Mesopotamia and Coordistan in 1842-1844, Vol. II republished in 1969 by Gregg
International Publishers Limited, pp.401-2)
wm warda
and an extract from the Urantia Book
about Abner the Eastern Christian Church.
quote:
The Jews at Jerusalem had always
had trouble with the Jews of Philadelphia . And after the death and
resurrection of Jesus the Jerusalem church, of which James the Lord's brother
was head, began to have serious difficulties with the Philadelphia
congregation of believers.
Abner became the head of the Philadelphia church, continuing as such until
his death. And this estrangement with Jerusalem explains why nothing is heard
of Abner and his work in the Gospel records of the New Testament. This
feud between Jerusalem and Philadelphia lasted throughout the lifetimes of
James and Abner and continued for some time after the destruction of
Jerusalem. Philadelphia was really the headquarters of the early church in
the south and east as Antioch was in the north and west.
and these fragments
quote:
line 111: It was the apparent
misfortune of Abner to be at variance with all of the leaders of the early
Christian church. He fell out with Peter and James (Jesus' brother) over
questions of administration and the jurisdiction of the Jerusalem church; he
parted company with Paul over differences of philosophy and theology. Abner
was more Babylonian than Hellenic in his philosophy, and he stubbornly
resisted all attempts of Paul to remake the teachings of Jesus so as
line 116: Thus was Abner compelled to live a life of isolation. He was head
of a church which was without standing at Jerusalem. He had dared to defy
James the Lord's brother, who was subsequently supported by Peter. Such
conduct effectively separated him from all his former associates. Then he
dared to withstand Paul. Although he was wholly sympathetic with Paul in
his mission to the gentiles, and though he supported him in his contentions
with the church at Jerusalem, he bitterly opposed the version of Jesus'
teachings which Paul elected to preach. In his last years Abner denounced
Paul as the "clever corrupter of the life teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, the
Son of the living God."
So as you can see there differences of
opinions of the Eastern Christian church to that of the Western Christian
church.
quote:
line 117: During the later years of
Abner and for some time thereafter, the believers at Philadelphia held more
strictly to the religion of Jesus, as he lived and taught, than any other
group on earth
line 118: Abner lived to be 89 years old, dying at Philadelphia on the 21st
day of November, A.D. 74. And to the very end he was a faithful believer
in, and teacher of, the gospel of the heavenly kingdom.
and
And this was the last time Abner ever saw Jesus in the flesh. His farewell to
Abner was: "My son, I know you will be true to the kingdom, and I pray the
Father to grant you wisdom that you may love and understand your brethren."
]
and this why there are so many commonalities with of Islam with the Abnerian
thoughts of Jesus.
quote:
line 50: Within a short time after
the destruction of Jerusalem, Antioch became the headquarters of Pauline
Christianity, while Philadelphia remained the center of the Abnerian kingdom
of heaven. From Antioch the Pauline version of the teachings of Jesus and
about Jesus spread to all the Western world; from Philadelphia the
missionaries of the Abnerian version of the kingdom of heaven spread
throughout Mesopotamia and Arabia until the later times when these
uncompromising emissaries of the teachings of Jesus were overwhelmed by the
sudden rise of Islam.
And we see this evidence in the
earlier above article about the old Mosque being Churches before they were
turned into prayer centers of Islam.
Off course Islam adopted many of the Eastern Christian Abnerian churches that's
there is commonality and differences.
And the Urantia Book does not agree with the degradation of women and is seen as
a severe weakness in the religion.
quote:
line 145: The strength of Islam has
been its clear-cut and well-defined presentation of Allah as the one and only
Deity; its weakness, the association of military force with its promulgation,
together with its degradation of woman. But it has steadfastly held to its
presentation of the One Universal Deity of all, "who knows the invisible and
the visible. He is the merciful and the compassionate." "Truly God is
plenteous in goodness to all men." "And when I am sick, it is he who heals
me." "For whenever as many as three speak together, God is present as a
fourth," for is he not "the first and the last, also the seen and the hidden"?
The Eastern version of the
message of Jesus, notwithstanding that it remained more true to his
teachings, continued to follow the uncompromising attitude of Abner. It never
progressed as did the Hellenized version and was eventually lost in the
Islamic movement.
and this one which reflects the early
influences in the doctrines of Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
quote:
Even the religion which succeeded
Zoroastrianism in Persia was markedly influenced by it. When the Iranian
priests sought to overthrow the teachings of Zoroaster, they resurrected the
ancient worship of Mithra. And Mithraism spread throughout the Levant and
Mediterranean regions, being for some time a contemporary of both Judaism
and Christianity . The teachings of Zoroaster thus came successively to
impress three great religions: Judaism and Christianity and, through them,
Mohammedanism.
But it is a far cry from the exalted teachings and noble psalms of Zoroaster
to the modern perversions of his gospel by the Parsees with their great
fear of the dead, coupled with the entertainment of beliefs in sophistries
which Zoroaster never stooped to countenance.
The early Chinese and the Greeks
treated women better than did most surrounding peoples. But the Hebrews
were exceedingly distrustful of them. In the Occident woman has had a
difficult climb under the Pauline doctrines which became attached to
Christianity, although Christianity did advance the mores by imposing more
stringent sex obligations upon man .
Woman's estate is little short of hopeless under the peculiar degradation
which attaches to her in Mohammedanism, and she fares even worse under the
teachings of several other Oriental religions
and this
quote:
All religions teach the worship of
Deity and some doctrine of human salvation. The Buddhist religion promises
salvation from suffering, unending peace; the Jewish religion promises
salvation from difficulties, prosperity predicated on righteousness; the Greek
religion promised salvation from disharmony, ugliness, by the realization of
beauty; Christianity promises salvation from sin, sanctity; Mohammedanism
provides deliverance from the rigorous moral standards of Judaism and
Christianity.
The religion of Jesus is salvation from self, deliverance from the evils of
creature isolation in time and in eternity.
and
quote:
The Jews loved justice, wisdom,
truth, and righteousness as have few peoples, but they contributed least of
all peoples to the intellectual comprehension and to the spiritual
understanding of these divine qualities. Though Hebrew theology refused to
expand, it played an important part in the development of two other world
religions, Christianity and Mohammedanism.
Interesting fragments
Sevens
posted
05-09-2008 08:29 PM
In the following bold highlights that
religion mixed in with aggression (violence) and religious will imposition is not
the way and there seems regret in this characteristics and including the
degradation of women. These appears outside of the Paradise thoughts and desires
for man and his religion.
quote:
The Ub fragment
" The strength of Islam has been its clear-cut and well-defined presentation
of Allah as the one and only Deity; its weakness, the association of
military force with its promulgation , together with its degradation of woman.
The strength of Islam has been its clear-cut and well-defined presentation of
Allah as the one and only Deity;
This is a clear message to all the
terrorist groups using religion as a weapon of violence against people and
includes the degradation of their women.
Its just clear cut! that aggression associated with religion is forbidden and is
not supported by Paradise!
"the association of military force
with its promulgation" This clearly points to terrorist group who use
religion as a force in death and destruction...This was already foreseen for
this time.
quote:
prom·ul·gate (prml-gt, pr-mlgt)
tr.v. prom·ul·gat·ed, prom·ul·gat·ing, prom·ul·gates
1. To make known (a decree, for example) by public declaration; announce
officially.prom·ul·gate
Who today announces death and
destruction in the name of religion??
Really speaking this is a direct
message to Al Qaeda, Taliban and Al Sadrs group! to depart from the road of
death and destruction and lay down the arms and stop using the name of Paradise
in this path of death and destruction upon any man!
Paradise cannot do anything for them if they persist and especially those who
teach untruth. Its an weakness, there greatest weakness in that there
interpretations are not supported by Paradise and there actions are wrong.
And it is forbidden for the men to go around beating and threatening the women
just because a women wants to express herself in the way she likes!
The above fragment is the proof from the Urantia Book.
Although in light of all the above
this applies to Christianity as well and Christianity has to self examine itself
to on both points in how they treat there women to. If maltreatment exists! Im
sure it does in some places that you dont hear about.
Sevens
posted
05-09-2008 08:39 PM
Gadiro...Gadira (Cádiz, Iberia)
Yeah not bad for such a city built in relative recent time according to
scientists.
Regarding names, its not that disimiliar to many towns in the states called
Lebanon or Zion or Bethsadia. Names of legend given to new lands of occupation.
Maybe the geographer or ruler at the time just called them those names as to
perpetuate his pet legend.
It could be a roving mystery but has no basis whatsever in truth as being the
ultimate source of Atlantis!
Which you have not established anything just word games!
I know there is a housing estate close by called Atlantis...Oh maybe thats the
where it all bagan?? in my backyard! I can see circular roads that means its
Atlantis. Gee the streets have Atlantis names to...Its got to be Atlantis!
I found it. Atlantis ahahahahahahah
Cant even post up an image! Sorry
sevens
posted
05-09-2008 08:52 PM
quote:
Tartesso disapears 550bc
and Cardiz was built before then
Tartesso as Atlantis which is even more ridiculous.
I mean you guys are just building your theory on place names and nothing else.
I think its just so narrow and limited.
sevens
posted
05-10-2008 12:30 AM
hahahahahahahah
that was funny, the second last post.
Run for the hills, explain yourself away with crap!
Anyway, what Georgeous has found is the latter part of the latter stone age
period in Europe, as simple as that.
The relevant information has been put forward and you will not be pursue the
matter because its true and it destroys your stories and assumptions hoping to
live of the back of Atlantis that can be proven wrong as Stonehenge is the
evidence indirectly.
Your the guys are just spreading propaganda without a thing, playing word place
names.
You're all crap and cant face the simple text that I left which speaks of Spain
and Southern France during the latter Stone age even before your silly timeline.
Next you'll say Urantia Book is crap as the last line of defense but then again
being in denial of truth that has been demonstrated puts you in precarious
position and does NOT have much support in truth! particularly from the Atlantis
Gods.
What Geogeous found are only relics of the Latter Stone Age and its all to do
with Moon Worship! in that area.
That is all it is and In my mind I think that is a good discovery but claiming
its Atlantis will bring you all undone and where you will loose credibility over
time for leading them up the Garden Path.
You cant face the text and cant get around it so instead you Mock or avoid the
Urantia Book without looking into the matter.
That is sure sign of the Last rebel in spirit.
sevens
posted
05-10-2008 02:18 AM
Anyway, I believe Georgeous is proving the
Urantia Book and its knowledge.
I was thinking Georgeous when you investigate think about the Urantia truth that
is being proven in your discoveries of the circular roofless temples like in
Stonehenge.
I believe you will go further in the sense that the book is pheonomena and the
evidence is already seen by yourself.
But pride will come in the way and imagine what it would do for someone's
standing.
When you talk about Atlantis, unsuspecting people will not know that there is
something else being excluded purposely, that you cant get around as the
evidence is proving the UB.
The responsibility of truth falls squarely on your shoulders and are held
accountable I suppose! whilst knowing the truth! but denying it for self ego.
Sevens
posted
05-10-2008 04:51 AM
Some thoughts about script found in
Jiroft near the Persian Heads, home of the Central Nodite group and some common
symbols found in the script that we are familiar with today even in the great
Pyramid where the same symbol has been identified and points to the Dilmuns as
first thought. The same symbol found in the script. Surely we must be getting
closer.
Maybe the symbol is a reflection of Babel/Dilmun where the same chevron can be
seen submerged about the circular foundations of Babel in Dilmun.
and
They were called the lands of Bablot! The Central and Northern Nodites
amalgamated and built the Tower of Babel for the first time 150,000 years ago.
The people in Jiroft were direct descendants of the central Nodite group from
ancient times past.
The triangle/circle symbol to the
people of Jiroft in times past could mean Dilmun, the city of past glories or
the circle with a dot in the middle could mean Bablot/Babel to. All ancient
reflections of Dalamatia City in the first time before the Dilmuns of the
Nodites.
Now the thought occurred to me that in
the Video the Archaeologist was speaking about the area of Jiroft, Aratta.
But I disagreed with that and connected Ratta to Van/Adamsons highland land
capital in North Eastern Iran. The myth lay elsewhere.
However, Ratta being the last of pure Nodite linage may have evacuated from the
Central homeland of the Nodites in a last dispersal of that group due to perhaps
climate change and other factors. Perhaps Ratta who married the eldest Son of
Adam came from the land of Aratta in the Jiroft area and near the Persian Heads.
She perhaps evacuated to safety at this highland refuge of Van and met Adamson.
Ratta last of her type from the land of Aratta. Kinda makes sense to me but is
speculation but on this basis I would think there would be a possibility of this
scenario. Apparently subsistence was a problem the Nodites seem to have. There
may have large migrations over the time depleting the population.
This was around 38,000 years ago when the climate was changing and the seas
where rising and approaching the lower ancient cities in the dry Persian Gulf.
34,000 years ago, the Gilbraltar straits ruptured and destroyed the inland seas
of the Med and 1stEden and land in North Sea and land submergence between
Britain and France. After this time it created climate change in the Sahara
Savanna which may have affected the climate in Iran with change and disruption.
quote:
Here is links on Jiroft
Although very little is known of the beliefs and rituals of Jiroft’s
inhabitants, Madjidzadeh is convinced that the practice of burying the dead
with a relative fortune in artifacts points to a well-organized religion with
a priestly class that could command the efforts of craftsmen. Since the
ancient Mesopotamian epic of Gilgamesh mentions scorpion-men similar to ones
carved on Jiroft’s stone vases, the archeologist also suggests that parts of
the Gilgamesh narrative circulated in Jiroft and may even have had their
origins there.
Madjidzadeh, in white hat at center, examines objects found near Konar Sandal
B in a trench overseen by Romain Pigeaud of the Paris National Museum of
Natural History. (Mohammad Eslami-Rad / Gamma)
Another of the recent season’s top finds was the discovery by Marjan Mashkur,
an Iranian researcher based in Paris, of shark bones and shells from the Gulf,
200 kilometers (120 mi) south. To Madjidzadeh, this find confirms that Jiroft
merchants plied well-worn trade routes that led to the Gulf and on to
Mesopotamia, dealing in chlorite vessels, lapis lazuli and other precious
stones, and commodities fabricated in Jiroft
Interesting association with demons
and consider this was a fallen race of the Nodites and would of collaborated in
some degree with the fallen angels in there quest.
quote:
Shahname (“The Book of Kings”)
written by Ferdausi in ca. 1000, refers to many demons who were presented as
people with different religious beliefs than Zoroastrians. They refused to
accept changes brought by a new civilization. They symbolized violence but
also simplicity. Is it possible that thousands of years before Ferdausi, the
civilized people of Jiroft considered others around them to be demons too?
Interesting connection and apparently these people may have been referred to as
the Scorpion people in the times of Sumeria.
Sevens
Re:
Iranian clerics criticized President Ahmadinejad Sun May 11, 2008 2:42 am
Hi Geo
Hi Geo
Thanks for your reply.
I found the article every interesting and eye opening.
I have to say for current leader to proclaim such a thing in these days does
take a real conviction of the heart to say that.
I myself came across the Shia prophecy myself just recently, I was quite
fascinated myself consider the Jewel of Khorason. I feel personally it related
to the Van/Adamson headquarters, I thinking what else could it be. On the
basis of the journey and the various messages that come out of this journey I
feel the right interpretation of the fragment is one of lay down the arms and
settle all disputes and make peace, go home and relearn on the basis of truth,
beauty and goodness and that would be the truth witness for them.
Personally, I feel all these ancient places are part of a test which can
contribute to resolve, Im hoping for that. I feel the only way the Shia
prophecy will come truth is through the peace path of truth as it arises and
that will be the truth as in the demonstration. A demonstration that touches
all religions.
I feel they have piece and we have a piece and it finding the right construct
that creates realisation for both sides and then moving forward in the wider
revelation of truth will be the answer.
Personally Geo, I would like to crate a construct of proposing an expedition
to Dalamatia City, the triangle city on the basis of my journey and the prime
base book that underpins the journey and including all the books where
reflections of this journey can be found.
I would like to invite the Iranian representative to be on board this boat to.
No doubt about it!. I think it is important that they to are involved in this
proposal as they can help us all establish the truth of the matter
particularly with access to the sites and with co-operation.
One one side of the journey you have representatives of the Christian body and
on another side you have the Atheists and on the other side you have
representatives of Islam and on another side you have representatives of the
Judaism.
All are involved and each have a representative to witness truth as we
discover with all facilities to make all kinds of tests. I figure that this
could happen very rapidly as each side would want to know the truth of the
matter and would want to be there to witness the truth.
The contest of truth or the test of mankind in attitude is to accept the
outcome in truth as in the discovery or verification and which includes a
proposal to obtain the Urantia Book in there respective language and to study
the book further and find better understanding and if that comes to pass and
the book is accepted then to share it with the people of there religious
realm.
The new can be tested and should be tested thoroughly by all people and it
should be tested in the faith and action and in the establishment of the truth
of the matter. This can involve all of us and all of Christianity no matter
what body.
At the same time while we are testing the book and its truth we can have a
great time in the journey as we already know the answer to the test as seen in
the beforehand.
Another part of the quest is the verification and lifting of the Seven
commands inscribed on stone slabs. If this is discovered and verified then
that would resurrect and confirm the original covenant of the Seven commands
that originated from Dalamatia City. That would the great confirmation in my
view.
Also I wrote to the Catholic church and they responded and they will have a
look at it. I thought they must know about the journey as it maybe important
for them as it does involve planetary destiny.
Anyway, see what happens but I think it could put a stop to all the
bloodshed...maybe.
Its the only practical plan of action I can come up with, that is peaceful,
enlightening, exciting, inspiring and provides both challenge and correction
at the same time.
Then if all is well that would resurrect the Dalamatian teachings of the first
times where perhaps a new temple maybe established upon this truth including
all the books where the people will come from all over the world to site the
truth of the matter and go home and consider there experience and truth. Maybe
this is what was viewed upon the verification.
Sevens
posted
05-10-2008 09:16 PM
I keep on coming back to the image below.
Im looking at the triangle mount. I feel it could be a map of the location of
Dalamatia City.
You see the mainland with the hills, then you sea a large expanse like the sea
or a large freshwater lake and then on the other side you have another shoreline
with the Triangle city Dalamatia City. To them it would be the City of the Gods
in the Sea.
The man representing the city is like the Planetary prince in those times
understanding these people are part progeny of the fallen sons and this would
represented in lore.
and this image of Dalamatia City not far from these ancient civilisations
Translated by James Darmesteter (From Sacred
Books of the East, American Edition, 1898.)
[1]
1.
'I am a pious man, who speaks words of
blessing,' thus said Zarathushtra to the young king Vishtaspa. - 'She appears
to me full of Glory, O Zarathushtra!' - 'O young king Vishtaspa! [I bless
thee] with the living of a good life, of an exalted life, of a long life. May
thy men live long! May thy women live long! May sons be born unto thee of thy
own body!
2.
'Mayest thou thyself be holy, like
Zarathushtra.
'Mayest thou be rich in cattle, like an Athwyanide!
'Mayest thou be rich in horses, like Pourushaspa!
'Mayest thou have a good share of bliss, like king Husravah!
'Mayest thou have strength to reach the Rangha, whose way lies afar, as Vafra
Navaza did.
3.
'May ten sons be born of thy own body!
three as Athravans, three
as warriors, three as tillers of the ground! May
one of them be like Jamaspa, that he may bless
thee with great and ever greater happiness!
4.
'Mayest thou be freed from sickness and death,
like Pesho-tanu.
'Mayest thou have piercing rays, like Mithra!
'Mayest thou be warm, like the moon!
'Mayest thou be resplendent, like fire!
'Mayest thou be long-lived, as long-lived as an old man can be!
5.
'And when thou hast fulfilled a duration of a
thousand years, [mayest thou obtain] the bright, all-happy, blissful abode of
the holy Ones!
Ashem Vohu: Holiness is the best of all good ....
Re:
Sudden Volcanic eruption in Chile
ArchMichael wrote:
sevens-
Excellent photo and definitely, signs of the times!
Sevens, I always check your posts and briefly read what you're writing in
your Dalamatia thread. So, don't think you're wasting your time. I just
never comment, that's all. Most of that is hard for me to figure-out, or
relate-with.
Hey thanks ArchMichael
I know my thread is a little hard to follow and I jump around all over the
place saying all kinds of things as I go. Im just testing things in my own way
with the help of the books. Thanks for having a look and seeing what happens
and where it leads to.
Ive written more here about some things including a study on Jiroft looking
for symbolic commonalities. It started in the previous page and continued
following the Central Nodite characteristics that leads to Dalamatia City.
Sometimes I find it hard to get around all the threads as I locked into
discussion on one.
I reckon all these catastrophes are part of response from nature in revolt to
the way we have altered this planet.
all the best
Sevens
posted
05-10-2008 09:16 PM
I keep on coming back to the image
below.
Im looking at the triangle mount. I feel it could be a map of the location of
Dalamatia City.
You see the mainland with the hills, then you sea a large expanse like the sea
or a large freshwater lake and then on the other side you have another shoreline
with the Triangle city Dalamatia City. To them it would be the City of the Gods
in the Sea.
The man representing the city is like the Planetary prince in those times
understanding these people are part progeny of the fallen sons and this would
represented in lore.
and this image of Dalamatia City not far from these ancient civilisations
are these similar symbols??
Sevens
Mon
May 12, 2008 6:04 am Re: Iranian clerics criticized President Ahmadinejad
Ive been thinking about the above article, the
only person on the planet speaking of Iran in terms of discovery and expansion
in the end times is me.
And Iran holds the key in relation to the ancient places because they exist in
Iran or near.
I wonder if they are keeping tabs on the forum posts? I hope they do I would
want them to be on this journey as it concerns there country and destiny! and
plus I have to verify all thats been presented and said concerning the ancient
places.
I do get quite a few unknown IP hits on my website. Plus my front end is most
unusual relating to Paradise and the end times. But then anyone proclaiming
the end times would be interested to search the site like perhaps some people
in Iran since they are a religious government and they are talking of end
times within their own culture.
Its interesting that I
posted the Jewel in Khorason post with my thoughts on some Shia prophecy and
including images of the Van/Adamson headquarters discovery which is the Jewell
of Khorason in the Dalamatia City thread on Sat May 03, 2008 2:15 am and then
suddenly you see this proclaimed. on the 8th May maybe coincidence who knows.
Sevens
Mon
May 12, 2008 5:38 am Re: Hezbollah sparks a war in Lebanon
It all sounds pretty bad.
I wonder if Hezbollah is in scriptures?
They should lay down there arms and go the peace path in the truth that is
arising. Same goes for Hamas.
If they all went the peace path properly then Israel will come to the table.
Im absolutely sure of that.
I dont think
there will anything for them going down the path of death and destruction as
Paradise doesn't believe in War on any man and Paradise cannot help them in
war.
