This is getting to be
the YAWN of the 21st century
The curious thing for me
that I found in the Egyptian Book of the Dead regarding this place.
In the following seems to suggest the time frame of the 21st Century
by relating to the 21st Pylon. With Horus (I feel Jesus) expressing
this in his own words.
THE OSIRIS AUFANKH, WHOSE WORD IS TRUTH, SAITH: Hail, saith Horus,
O Twenty-first pylon of the Still-Heart! I have made the way. I
know thee. I know thy name. I know the name of the goddess who
guardeth thee. "Sword that smiteth at the utterance of its own
name, stinking face, overthrower of him that approacheth her
flame" is thy name. Thou keepest the hidden things of the avenger
of the god, thou guardest them. Amam is his name. He maketh the
ash trees not to grow, and the shenu trees not to blossom, and
preventeth copper from being found in the mountain. The Tchatcha
(Chiefs) of this Pylon are Seven Gods. Tchen, or Anthch (At), is
the name of the one at the door. Hetepmes is the name of another
there. Messep is the name of another there. Utchara is the name of
another there. Beq is the name of another there. Anp (Anubis) is
the name of another there.
THE OSIRIS AUFANKH, WHOSE WORD IS TRUTH, SAITH: Hail, saith Horus,
O Twenty-first (21st century) pylon of the Still-Heart!
Still of heart seems to be referring to people that are asleep
doing no research and keeping themselves ignorant and blind of
whats going on and just talk up there time saying silly comments.
again still of heart.
Also note the relation to Horus as I equate that to Jesus but
through the Egyptian culture. He is actualy expressing himself,
like the Jesus papers of the Egyptians.
I have made the way.
A way has been made to find this mystery of secret or to uncover a
secret perhaps an inevitable event seems to be related to the
seven Gods
I know thee. I know thy name. I know the name of the goddess
who guardeth thee. "Sword that smiteth at the utterance of its own
name, stinking face, overthrower of him that approacheth her
flame" is thy name.
There seems to be a guarding of a secret or of a mystery
Thou keepest the hidden things of the avenger of the god, thou
guardest them.
Obviously the Angel/God is protecting a hidden thing or secret and
its related to a mystery similiar to the angel of the Garden at
the gate with a flaming sword. Protecting what lies there.
Amam is his name.
Amom is the avenger Gods name, and he must be related to some
retribution of some sort or avenging a past wrong perhaps related
to Horus.
The in the following there are clues that relate to a physical
location.
He maketh the ash trees not to grow,
Ash trees relate to the North of Egypt relating to the the area
before the phoenecians similiar to the cedars of Lebanon
(cedars) (Lebanon 1st Eden)
and the shenu trees not to blossom,
(acacias)(Egypt was affected)
and preventeth copper from being found in the mountain.
(To me the only place in the eastern Med that relates to Copper is
Cyprus.)
It also infers that you could walk there and obtain copper. That
was cut of by a flood. A catastrophe, a deluge.
The Tchatcha (Chiefs) of this Pylon are Seven Gods.
It sounds like the Gods in charge of this mystery are the Sevens
Gods who are represntative of this mystery and events in this day
and age. 21st century /Pylon. Links (Revelation 1:17 Seven
stars)(For me the Sevenfold Paradise Trinity or the Trinty of
Paradise.)
Tchen, or Anthch (At), is the name of the one at the door.
Hetepmes is the name of another there.
Messep is the name of another there.
Utchara is the name of another there.
Beq is the name of another there.
Anp (Anubis) is the name of another there.
(To me this relates to the seal of the mystery, the seal of the
sevens in charge of this mystery and are the same sevens as where
back then during the deluge. Like the seal on the vault or door.
that is loosened in the books and in physical discovery.)
It seems that Jesus represented as Horus speaks of the 21st Century
when man is Still of heart unable to see this mystery. This mystery
is related to some sort of refinement of which only the ones who
know the mystery will pass through the door. This mystery has a seal
but the seal is related to a place or a door to a vault or container
that contains evidence perhaps that was submerged back in time.
Obviously upon loosening the seal, the knowledge will lead us to
this discovery and have understanding of the discovery which could
have an effect on all mankind!!
maybe.
We have to see.
Thats the feeling I get.
In addition in response to the no evidence remark. If there was
nothing there they wouldn't be going there for a second time.
line 132: 6. The personal
viewpoint of Paul of Tarsus. And it should be recorded that Mithraism was
the dominant religion of Tarsus during his adolescence. Paul little
dreamed that his well-intentioned letters to his converts would someday be
regarded by still later Christians as the "word of God." Such
well-meaning teachers must not be held accountable for the use made of
their writings by later-day successors.
extract
And this is the long story of the teachings of Machiventa Melchizedek on
Urantia. It is nearly four thousand years since this emergency Son of
Nebadon bestowed himself on Urantia, and in that time the teachings of the
"priest of El Elyon, the Most High God," have penetrated to all races and
peoples. And Machiventa was successful in achieving the purpose of his
unusual bestowal; when Michael made ready to appear on Urantia, the God
concept was existent in the hearts of men and women, the same God concept
that still flames anew in the living spiritual experience of the manifold
children of the Universal Father as they live their intriguing temporal
lives on the whirling planets of space.
Maybe I should go on about Christian religions too much and just stick to my
research. Lest I fall into the trap of being judgemental myself.
There is no danger in religion's becoming more and more of a private
matter--a personal experience--provided it does not lose its motivation
for unselfish and loving social service. Religion has suffered from many
secondary influences: sudden mixing of cultures, intermingling of creeds,
diminution of ecclesiastical authority, changing of family life, together
with urbanization and mechanization.
Man's greatest spiritual jeopardy consists in partial progress, the
predicament of unfinished growth: forsaking the evolutionary religions of
fear without immediately grasping the revelatory religion of love. Modern
science, particularly psychology, has weakened only those religions which
are so largely dependent upon fear, superstition, and emotion.
Transition is always accompanied by confusion, and there will be little
tranquillity in the religious world until the great struggle between the
three contending philosophies of religion is ended:
1. The spiritistic belief (in a providential Deity) of many religions.
2. The humanistic and idealistic belief of many philosophies.
3. The mechanistic and naturalistic conceptions of many sciences.
And these three partial approaches to the reality of the cosmos must
eventually become harmonized by the revelatory presentation of religion,
philosophy, and cosmology which portrays the triune existence of spirit,
mind, and energy proceeding from the Trinity of Paradise and attaining
time-space unification within the Deity of the Supreme.
For me, Its the experience in this research of Eden and the great
harmonisation of it. I feel I know what this extract is talking about. It
really is the personal experience of the harmonisation of the mystery as
it unfolds its physical reality in time and space and in accordance to the
what is written and prophesied.
Time space continuum process of unfoldment. Its also related to everyone's
personal experience in the daily walk on every level.
I was wandering are
there old active Volcanos in around Ireland or in the Celtic coast. Is the land
mass of Igneous Rock and that is part of an existing island group. Like remnants
where it has a large Volcano on it and rises steeply from the sea.
Atlantis must of been in an Volcanic area that must of had steam fissures close
by, explaining the hot and cold springs on the acropolis hill.
Plus the Volcano mountain would still be evident and must be a large mountain.
200 meters is not a huge difference in height in sea level change. A large
Volcanic mountain should still be evident like Mt Olympus in Cyprus, something
like that, a big mountain. Also the island must look upside down like.
Also it would have to be near other civilisations or close by the heart of it?
Also it would have to be in an earthquake prone area as according to Plato the
waters changes from Hot to cold
Also I found an reference in Enoch relating to change of waters similar to Plato
and speaking about the same valley where the Deluge struck and also describes
Volcanic action and effect to a catastrophe.
Here is a link to the Book of Enoch I thought related to the same place as what
Plato speaks of which is an Egyptian record, translated.
And surprisingly speaks in the some context from the Egyptian Book of the Dead
in my past post. Again the same story but different culture, all in around
Cyprus, the Eastern Med.
I think that is unusuall, but why the significants? Why are the scriptures
relating to seven?
Is it the tie in with the ancients or something.
What is the mystery behind the use of Seven in all the books? Is that a hint to
take note of something relating to seven. I dont know? Would anyone out there
have the answer? What is the significants? or are they using seven so at the
right time its use and signifcants becomes relevant to the case of the end??
I was checking the following verses in Revelation. Checkout how many
sevens there are in verse 20
19 Write the things which
thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall
be hereafter;
20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right
hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars
are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven
candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
Also note in verse 19 God encourages a Testamony to be written
beforehand, before the event, like an open book mystery, similar to
what's happening today with this research, all beforehand predicting an
event and outcome at an location where it all began. All in type.
Also note the Mystery of the Sevens stars. Is this the Mysteries of
Mysteries as mentioned in the Essene papers? I think so, I think its one
and same mystery.
So again we have this direct relationship in both records of Jesus and
Seven or is that Jesus and the seven paths.
The mystery of the Sevens stars must be related to the Ancient truth,
the Ancient of Days as related to in the stars (reflective). Consider
the Mazzaroth mentioned in
Job
38 and its connection to Orion, Paladies and Acturus. They are all 7
star constellations and the stories relating to them are reflective of
the same truth then, which is the same truth coming to pass in reality
and is the same truth that is driving this exploration of the truth.
The Sevens angels of the churches is related to the same Sethite truth
that was maintained in ages past and is still with us today and can be
seen in all cultures through there religions in one way or another,
especially through the use of seven or sevenfold truth or representation
of it.
However as we get closer to the discovery of his testament on top of the
hill, this truth (Jesus and sevens truth, one in the same truth.) forms
its own conjunction through the completion of the mystery of the Sevens
stars.
If you look in the following in revelation 11 you find this at the time
of discovery. Here is work I did about 2 months ago.
Sevenfold temple
Revelation:11
1And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel
stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and
them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple
leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and
the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
reed like unto a rod: a reed, like a life line that is
connected to a R.O.V, the rod, the measuring stick, measuring the
temple, the temple of God, and the altar: Measure the temple, around
the altar area there should be spring outlet close by and canals close
by. But the court which is without the temple leave out, [1] and
measure it not; leave out the courtyard there's nothing of value
there. Whilst fascinating its probably to damaged. the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
Holy city=1Eden of Cyprus.
We could be in the actual moment of prophecy concerning this place
now.
In the same chapter where the "Ark of his Testament" is discovered,
there is a response from Heaven, as an endorsement of support and also
marks a time of change. Even though it speaks of a temple in Heaven. I
say as in Heaven on Earth where this location is representative of the
Holy temple on Earth (the beginning and the end) and actually Enoch
said that this this place will be used for judgement.
19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen
in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and
voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.
the temple of God was opened in heaven: The actual temple on the
Acropolis Hill was studied and its mystery was opened. Its a conjoint
effort of Heaven and Earth, The temple in heaven and the original
temple on Earth. there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: Near the
Altar as discovered "The Ark of his testament" The Evidence, the
proof, yeah!!. The discovery activating the seal in the temple and as
a response, heaven activates and responds as described in the
following: there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an
earthquake, and great hail. Heaven responds to the discovery with all
kinds of things.
Upon the great discovery and realisation the Seventh Angels makes the
call. I believe the seventh Angel is a representative of the Trinity
of Paradise.
Revelations 14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe
cometh quickly. 15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great
voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the
kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever
and ever. 16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on
their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 17 Saying, We
give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to
come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast
reigned. 18
Also continuing the Seventh Angels track we see in the following that
the Seventh angels calls the end of the Mystery, the mystery of the
stars or the Mystery of mysteries.
10And I saw another
mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a
rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and
his feet as pillars of fire: 2 And he had in his hand a little book
open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the
earth,
The Seventh Angel.
3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he
had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.
A voice that filled the whole Earth.
4And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about
to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up
those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
John instructed not e write this particular vision as this was set for a
new revelation in the future.
10And I saw another mighty
angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was
upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as
pillars of fire: 2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he
set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth, 3
And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had
cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.
4 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to
write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those
things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth
lifted up his hand to heaven, 6 And sware by him that liveth for ever
and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the
earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things
which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
The call of the finish of the great mystery.
But in the days of the
voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery
of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the
prophets.
We are in the days of the Seventh Angel right now. As we all explore
this and crack the mystery heaven will respond the end of this mystery.
It seems to me that upon discovery of the Ark of the Testament there is
a response of the seventh Angel declaring that the final mystery is
complete or the Test is complete and judgment begins and an event
happens that effects all of us.
This what I feel is the mysteries of mysteries.
I believe that this mystery had to be in an open book scenario all
beforehand of the conclusion. Also it is representative of the Test as
in the following
Rev1:9
What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven
churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto
Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia,
and unto Laodicea.
Well I do send my research to the churches and expose it but the
churches wont consider this, at all. Well I have seen no proof of
that.
12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned,
I saw seven golden candlesticks; 13 And in the midst of the seven
candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down
to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 14 His head
and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes
were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if
they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
16 And he had in his right hand seven stars:
and out of his mouth went a sharp two edged sword: ("The Test")
and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
Reference to the test beforehand. The3 double edge sword, The Test, the
decision, the parting of the ways. Just remember Jesus commands, that's
all I say.
In the following is the declaration.
3 Blessed is he that
readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those
things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
Written beforehand.
4 John to the seven
churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him
which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven
Spirits which are before his throne; 5 And from Jesus Christ, who
is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the
prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed
us from our sins in his own blood, 6 And hath made us kings and
priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever
and ever. Amen.
7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and
they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail
because of him. Even so, Amen. 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning
and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is
to come, the Almighty.
Basically the end of the mystery and the stage is set for a new world as
expressed in all the books. But one must be worthy for the new world and
faith and belief is the requirement.
Note that all has been revealed in accordance to the mandate given in
revelations as. Its an open book where upon the mystery has always been
there but it is in the day of technology that we can piece the mystery
together.
This testament is an virtual open book mystery and was always meant to
be. It has nothing to do with money or publishers and sales.
Its is truly a book on the run of Man, God and the last mystery before
the second coming.
in my view.
I will know whether this Testamony is accurate by the events that may
unfold upon the 2nd expedition off Cyprus.
Its a test a refinement of what's truth and what's not. A demonstration
of Gods faithfulness in word and in action.
This will be the only sign.
happy research.
sevens
If anyone has anything to add, please feel free.
The dead sea Scrolls, "The Test, the double edge sword" 4Q215
"...and the stressful constraint and the ordeal of the pit(1stEden) and
they shall be refined by them to become the elect of the
righteousness....
because of his loving kindness.
I have come unto
thee. I have drawn nigh to behold thy beauties (thy beneficient
goodness). My hands are [extended] in adoration of thy name of "Maat."
I have come. I have drawn nigh unto [the place where] the
cedar-tree existeth not, where the acacia tree doth not put forth
shoots, and where the ground produceth neither grass nor herbs.
Because it is submerged and hidden until now.
Now I have entered into the habitation which is hidden, Made
preparation for discovery and discovered the thing that is hidden.
and I hold converse with Set.
Deals with the Lucifer rebellion as prophesied and is connection
to the discovery, through Judgement.
My protector advanced to me, covered was his face.... on the
hidden things.
could this mean an R.O.V. with lights and camera physically on the
hidden things cutting something out of the mountain. The actual
submarine submerging to the site..
He entered into the house of Osiris, he saw the hidden things
which were therein.
Entering a vault near the altar in the temple and discovered the
ark of his testament and there in lays remnants of what was there.
The Tchatchau Chiefs of the Pylons were in the form of Spirits.
Is the endorsement or the response from Heaven as prophecied in
Revelations upon discovery of the "Ark of his Testament". I think
its the same message from a related culture.
All part of the seven mystery or the mystery of the Sevens Stars.
regards
Sevens
Mystery of the Seven Parallel.
Personally knowing a
little more than what is present thus far. I think Cyprus is where the action
is. Undoubtedly, its just in all the BC books and is revealing themselves in
tandem to the discovery and further discoveries of Cyprus.
A conjunction of the highest levels, there is no place on earth where have this
phenomena is occurring before our eyes and on the run as we move forward.
All I'm doing is following the Eden track in the scripts. There is
many things that I look at and curious to see if it fits and is
consistent with all things that I know. When I speak about the
kingdom of Heaven, its a spiritual Kingdom where our soul will
reside in another body that is part of the universal kingdom of
personality and spirit.
The very Kingdom Jesus speaks about and demonstrated in his
resurrection and in various appearances. Nothing do with Aliens in
the space/time continuum. However as you know I do try and find
clues that fit in which lead me to the Urantia revelation and in
that, I find many things which lead to me to other things that I
reveal.
The Bible and all the scripts is the interaction of Heaven/infinity
and time/space, of God and Man. Its all about the spiritual
interaction of man and lets say, the Father. Its about Jesus' life,
the relationship of The Father and Man. But its a personal journey
for each person.
I feel in my search for Eden there is a huge message for man which
is really important. I share and reveal my research in case its true
and its effects man in that he should know and consider it. In my
doing this it becomes a virtual living reality Testamony unfolding
in what may become the biggest event ever in mankind that involves
The Kingdom of Heaven. Literally before our eyes.
This ancient secret/mystery could only come from the scriptures, all
of them. Not just the Bible exclusive. Every piece of the puzzle
fits as we move forward to the event and as we can piece together
looking back in time. It becomes mans Testamony to the event, all
before hand and in faith. Its the test of faith in the scriptures
and the voice of The Father in this, as you piece the information
together and combine. But you have to seek the path and that's
between God and man.
Everything seems to match prophecy of today's timeline.
Jesus himself reveals many things that all point to Eden, direct.
The discovery of Eden and what it represents, is in the books. The
key word in this all is Seven or sevenfold or seventh, to me this
represents The Trinity of Paradise.
What I posted from the Urantia Book is that kind of harmonization
that is occurring of all levels knowledge. Its is a conjunction in
space/time that leads straight to the Trinity of Paradise, the
highest levels in Heaven. This whole conjunction is direct from
Paradise direct to man. Its a gift from Paradise.
1 year ago I proclaimed it was the Paradise Trinity but since then,
I have discovered it goes direct to the top levels of Heaven itself.
Like finding un chartered territory of this journey as man explores
this new experience of revelation on a new level. Its the keys to
heaven, of Paradise. This is a huge discovery in theology you know,
bigger than reformation. This is bigger than any revelation man has
seen right here, right now.
And these three
partial approaches to the reality of the cosmos must eventually
become harmonized by the revelatory presentation of religion,
philosophy, and cosmology which portrays the triune existence of
spirit, mind, and energy proceeding from the Trinity of Paradise
and attaining time-space unification within the Deity of the
Supreme.
quote:
energy proceeding from
the Trinity of Paradise and attaining time-space unification
within the Deity of the Supreme.
The Trinity of Paradise.
Incredible, this is exactly what I experience when I discover a
piece to the puzzle. I know this harmonization and understand it.
This all happens in my search for Eden in the scripts. Truly
amazing. and finding this after the events all beforehand, that I
should write and to discover later that I was right? revelatory.
Sevenfold Books Research
There will be representative that will come here and when it happens
there will represent a huge change remembering that we are in the
last throws of the rebellion. This will be the last of it, like,
this is the striking moment in time. People who completely reject
this will not be considered in what is to come. That's what I am
reading.
Remember Jesus or Michael of Nebadon is directly one of there own,
he is a Paradise Son, a son of the Trinity. The Trinity of Paradise,
They are here to deal with the system that is responsible for the
death of Jesus and it will be held accountable for that grievous
mistake and that's why a pathway has been created through Jesus
through his life and his message is that the ones with faith, the
Faith sons and all those that believe, even halfhearted will be
protected in this time and throughout what is to come in preparation
of the new world.
That's what I think and that feeling seems to be getting stronger in
my personal confirmation.
Anyway I thought I would share this with you to give you a better
understanding of what I think.
The aim is not to judge others but let the Ancients of Days judge what is
acceptable or not in the Kingdom of heaven.
The most acceptable thing is Love for one another and learning to understand
each other. Through the witness of your own love for another then I feel you
attract people to your inner thoughts and belief and they start emanate there
own love for one another through your example. from within.
Anyway the new world will be based on this principle which encompasses truth ,
discovery, sharing knowledge not keeping it. Not judgeing and excluding.
Transparent and open.
Isaiah 42 25 I have raised up
one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he
call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the
potter treadeth clay.
26 Who hath declared from the beginning, that we may know? and beforetime,
that we may say, He is righteous? yea, there is none that sheweth, yea, there
is none that declareth, yea, there is none that heareth your words.
27 The first shall say to Zion, Behold, behold them: and I will give to
Jerusalem one that bringeth good tidings.
To me it speaks of the current time line. Its an interesting read.
luke 13
18 Then said he, Unto what is the kingdom of God like ? and whereunto
I resemble it? 19 It is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took,
and cast into his garden; and it grew, and waxed a great tree; and the
fowls of the air lodged in the branches of it.
Hebrews 12:18 For ye are not
come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto
blackness, and darkness, and tempest,
19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that
heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:
20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a
beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:
21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and
quake:)
22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the
heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written [6]
in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made
perfect,
and
1Peter 6:4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of
men, but chosen of God, and precious,
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy
priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus
Christ.
6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a
chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be
confounded.
7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: [1] but unto them which be
disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the
head of the corner,
8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble
at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a
peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called
you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
and
Psalm 65 Praise waiteth for thee, O God, in Sion: and unto thee shall the vow
be performed.
2 O thou that hearest prayer, unto thee shall all flesh come.
3 Iniquities prevail against me: as for our transgressions, thou shalt purge
them away.
4 Blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee,
that he may dwell in thy courts: we shall be satisfied with the goodness of
thy house, even of thy holy temple.
and
Job6:5 By terrible things in righteousness wilt thou answer us, O God of
our salvation; who art the confidence of all the ends of the earth, and of
them that are afar off upon the sea:
8 Oh that I might have my request; and that God would grant me the thing that
I long for!
9 Even that it would please God to destroy me; that he would let loose his
hand, and cut me off!
10 Then should I yet have comfort; yea, I would harden myself in sorrow: let
him not spare; for I have not concealed the words of the Holy One.
11 What is my strength, that I should hope? and what is mine end, that I
should prolong my life?
12 Is my strength the strength of stones? or is my flesh of brass
13 Is not my help in me? and is wisdom driven quite from me?
and
Psalms 22
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping
me, and from the words of my roaring?
2 O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night
season, and am not silent.
3 But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.
4 Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.
5 They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not
confounded.
Isaiah 24 Behold, the Lord
maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and
scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.
2 And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the
servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with
the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as
with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him.
3 The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the Lord hath
spoken this word.
4 The earth mourneth and fadeth away, the world languisheth and fadeth away,
the haughty people of the earth do languish.
5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they
have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting
covenant.
6 Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are
desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.
7 The new wine mourneth, the vine languisheth, all the merryhearted do sigh.
8 The mirth of tabrets ceaseth, the noise of them that rejoice endeth, the joy
of the harp ceaseth.
9 They shall not drink wine with a song; strong drink shall be bitter to
them that drink it.
10 The city of confusion is broken down: every house is shut up, that no man
may come in.
11 There is a crying for wine in the streets; all joy is darkened, the mirth
of the land is gone.
12 In the city is left desolation, and the gate is smitten with destruction.
13 When thus it shall be in the midst of the land among the people, there
shall be as the shaking of an olive tree, and as the gleaning grapes when the
vintage is done.
14 They shall lift up their voice, they shall sing for the majesty of the
Lord, they shall cry aloud from the sea.
15 Wherefore glorify ye the Lord in the fires, even the name of the Lord
God of Israel in the isles of the sea.
16 From the uttermost part of the earth have we heard songs, even glory to the
righteous. But I said, My leanness, my leanness, woe unto me! the treacherous
dealers have dealt treacherously; yea, the treacherous dealers have dealt very
treacherously.
17 Fear, and the pit, and the
snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth.
18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear
shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit
shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the
foundations of the earth do shake.
19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth
is moved exceedingly.
20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like
a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall
fall, and not rise again.
21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall punish the
host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the
earth.
22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit,
and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.
23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the Lord of
hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients
gloriously.
Jeremiah 15 O Lord, thou knowest:
remember me, and visit me, and revenge me of my persecutors; take me not away
in thy longsuffering: know that for thy sake I have suffered rebuke.
16 Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy
and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O Lord God of hosts.
17 I sat not in the assembly of the mockers, nor rejoiced; I sat alone because
of thy hand: for thou hast filled me with indignation.
18 Why is my pain perpetual, and my wound incurable, which refuseth to be
healed? wilt thou be altogether unto me as a liar, and as waters that fail
19 Therefore thus saith the Lord, If thou return, then will I bring thee
again, and thou shalt stand before me: and if thou take forth the precious
from the vile, thou shalt be as my mouth: let them return unto thee; but
return not thou unto them.
20 And I will make thee unto this people a fenced brasen wall: and they shall
fight against thee, but they shall not prevail against thee: for I am with
thee to save thee and to deliver thee, saith the Lord.
21 And I will deliver thee out of the hand of the wicked, and I will redeem
thee out of the hand of the terrible.
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Get the picture, the message,
The testing period is now not later.
4 Blessed is the man
whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee, that he may
dwell in thy courts: we shall be satisfied with the goodness of
thy house, even of thy holy temple.
In essence as I read these scripts and attempt to define the truth
further.
I find that Jesus is making all of us a very simple offer of trust
and faith in his words.
Thats all.
Its a simple offer from Jesus and the prophets.
Its is between Man and God and is open to all manner of brothers and
sisters no matter what they do or pursue. There is no division in
this Kingdom and all manner of men will be treated with respect and
on the same level.
Even if your against what I say. Just in your background thoughts
just consider a small inner prayer within your heart of trust and
faith.
Personally I wont everyone in this forum to have a chance opf
success if this truly a pending situation.
I would suggest in the next 2 months to consider this probation
period that is set to finish soon.
I desire to speak to everyone after the event. I don't want anyone
no matter who, to loose their life if this is true what I'm seeing.
Even if you don't believe or your pride is great, don't worry about
pride and who is right and who is wrong, its doesn't matter. Just
have a bit of belief and just consider it. You don't have tell
anyone for fear of whatever. If you make that inner acknowledgement
then that decision is set in stone and you will be fine
No worries at all. Nothing to worry about. You will have peace and
be protected.
For those who reject completely. I say pull your finger out and read
again, everything because your knowledge will come to naught and
there will be nothing to save you. Because when the Earth changes
happen after Judgement, the Spirit of the Lord and the faith sons
and others who believe, even halfheartedly, will be taken to place
of protection only to descend to a clean earth, the new world run by
essentially, the Jesus message.
Anyway I wish all the best. This message is not a hard one, it
doesn't take you individuality away and does not take your
sovereignty away.
Its a really simple easy message. Just consider it.
regards
sevens
I know Elmer's message as very solid message and does pull punches. But don't
estimate what he is saying because essentially its true and is in line with the
signs of the time. Now.
Before anyone blows him off, Just consider for a moment that he is right, I
wouldn't reject his message of salvation because it is consistent with all the
research within and without the Bible that point to the great and only sign of
real change.
Elmer comes from a line of fundamentalist Christians I think? I know his message
is brutal enough to turn any off but he is not here to be friend, he is here to
get a basic message across that should not be ignored.
Believe me with what is to come don't blow it off because. The on coming
Judgement will be brutal, extremely brutal where all knowledge outside of the
truth will fail. So if it takes this kind of approach to make people think
rather than falling into the pit. Then let it be so.
Elmer's is here to do a job and that is to assist man in this manifestation of a
believer trying to help man in this perplexing period.
consider all things, don't reject out of hand, it will be a mistake.
Its a simple message of trust in Gods words and faith, that is the test before
Judgement. Also everything will seem normal before judgement (like man screwing
man...normal!) until the call, don't get sucked into the "She'll be right mate
business" or everything is nice, pleasant and happy. Its only the calm before
the storm. Also things aren't normal on this planet and not everyone is happy
particularly the ones who have no benefit of what we have today.
Particularly the poor who are inflicted by rubbish leaders and who have only God
to appeal to because man is an ass towards his fellow brother and couldn't give
a damn except for himself and his rubbish thoughts. Its not what he says because
most of the time its just a big lie, all crap. But its his background thoughts,
you know what I mean and the crap within those thoughts.
This is where the problem lays.
Most of mans words and thoughts are evil preoccupied on how to screw the his
brother. Look at the world around us??? Like the stock market, the all time
bloodbath.
This problem will be dealt with soon.
Who is happy? hardly anyone regardless of technology. Not many people.
regards
sevens
Hi Elmer.
The quote you presented. I know that as a true experience. When my family see me
its the roll your eyes experience.
But I don't care because I know what is to come is true and revealed and
endorsed by all the scripts including Jesus' own words.
Really take note people, serious no joke just be aware of yourselves, reflect
and prepare. Its a simple message and it wont be fun or happy. Like I said
before it will be brutal. The whole experience and the faith believers will be
spared. That's why we express our own brutality in love for one another to jolt
people to reflect upon themselves and where there at in life.
Remembering that the System that murdered Jesus A paradise Trinity Son is in for
a reckoning as Paradise are upset with what happened and have come to wipe out
the system forever. This is real retribution and the rebellion will be over.
FOREVER.
Justice may be slow in the universal courts of the Ancient of Days. But when
justice comes it is sure and we are in the midst of it.
It will be no mucking operation where Paradise, The Trinity of Paradise are
serious, real serious.
Its time for thinking, real self thinking of which side of the plumb line you
stand. Its the parting of the ways happening now.
You're right, One thing for sure I will know if I'm right when the
R.O.V is above the acropolis Hill and hopefully unlocks the mystery.
If I'm right it may be an event, if I'm wrong well III leave from
here and wont bother anyone again and put it down to creative
thoughts.
But so far so good. You know there is a real energy about the
location and the information connected to it. Understanding the soul
of it gives you real insight into it. I feel the temple in Jerusalem
was built in type to the location, 1st Eden. That's what I reckon it
is Sarah for sure. I think all the information in the bible is about
now and the location. Actually I think its Sion, the bible refers to
it as a location to the North of Jerusalem, I think Eden, maybe you
could help me there.
What I'm promoting is goodwill amongst all people, all religions, no
exclusivity at all. But I think the Jesus message is a very strong
key.
The whole thing wrapped around Eden is just incredible the levels of
intelligence in this is a revelation of the Father for sure,
undoubtedly. In physical and in word. I have no doubt its all in the
Torah. I I'd be a real good read.
Everything that is happening is a space/time unification of the
Trinity of Paradise. Being a student of the Urantia Book and all
other books I understand the experience. Its like a spiritual
connection a path of personal revelatory experience of the Father
and seeing his handy work over time as the reality of ones faith in
the will of God manifests. As best as I can describe it.
You know I started this kind of posting on your forum about 2 months
ago sharing my discoveries. I proclaimed the test scenario of faith
connected to what lays on the Acropolis Hill in accordance to the
scripts and expressing my feelings about this place and its
significant to mankind. Revealed all. Last night, I was studying
Isaiah and discovered much of what's happening and reflecting on my
activities and reading about it, everything that has occurred.
Reading about the past in the present. A time space connection of
infinity, wouldn't that be. A reality scenario read about and
actually lived out the experience and read about in the present,
identifying key markers that you can identify with in your own life
experience of the current and distant past. Its a bridge in the
space/time continuum to infinity. I suppose?? Its is a different
thing to see. Its what religion was all about originally.
Tell me I'm wrong!! The Test scenario, beforehand, the message of
glad tidings among all man and its manifestation at this time during
the test and before the end, how its communicated, out of nowhere it
comes, so many things that fit the reality. That's all I speak
about. A living reality of I feel immense proportions, I think its a
demonstration of his righteousness.
I found 3 areas that speak about right now and the beforehand
revealment and the test period and then what happens. Its all
revealed, its all up there anyone can approach me, no worries.
Sarah, I'm quite happy to share with you, what I found last night,
highlighted in blue, I have more than what I posted which is a
personal witness in this experience. I have no problem with that.
Isaiah 44: 26 That confirmeth
the word of his servant, and performeth the counsel of his messengers; that
saith to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be inhabited; and to the cities of Judah, Ye
shall be built, and I will raise up the decayed places thereof:
Through a discovery and the revelation it provides in the search and
exploration of Eden in the scripts, all of them. The discovery and the
information related to it will bring new light and will enhance the truth
further bringing all religions together.
27 That saith to the deep, Be dry, and I will dry up thy rivers:
This infers great earth changes on the planet, it also could mean an actual
resurrection of the location (Atlantis Rising) Very speclatory but anything is
possible these days. Especially if the second coming occurs or something like
that. If this occurs this could fulfill Cayces prophecy Atlantis rising
literally but in the new world. People who reject will not see this. from what
I see.
28 That saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my
pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple,
Thy foundation shall be laid.
Cyrus helps the restoration of the Second temple of Israel right.
Cyrus, very similar to Cyprus. Also Cyrus is a Persian right, Who is the
leader of the Cyprus/Atlantis project. Where does his lineage, come from?
Looks to me that the new temple will be built upon the wasted places. Well to
me this all speaks of Cyprus and the location of Eden/Atlantis City. That is
the original stone temple from 38,000 years ago, the beginning and The father
is resurrecting that and the truth of it through a new expansion in religion
that combines all the truth from every book that is relevant to the case.
Its all a case of confirming the word in the bible in this Isaiah 44,
confirming the entities involved on all levels with names and motives of the
Heaven around this place. All the characters are involved its a foreseen saga
and every sequence is playing itself out. If this is correct. This is of the
highest levels from the Trinity of Paradise, has to be. That's I share this so
I can be corrected if Im wrong and also to give mankind some help if it
requires.
Its the Testamony of discovery in word and in the physical reality that
matches. I believe this is the mystery of the Seven Stars or the mystery of
mysteries.
I just realised this as I reflect back in the past and see the events that have
unfolded coming to this realisation now. I feel its a space/time unification of
realisation of the past and present. The events and reality seem to fit in
actual sequence written and foreseen in the BC era. These events today seem to
match, if this is correct this is a new revelation which way beyond and is
confirmed in the scriptures.
A space time mystery where space/time is gapped through revelation in touching
the world of the infinity/eternal. Something like that, trying to understand
this further.
This might give light to other things that come to mind. III explore those
thoughts and see what it unfolds.
Here some ideas I had as I went through the following link in relation to this
reality of Eden.
Speculation, with a strong sense.
I also believe that the dimensions of Ezekiel's Temple that he saw in his vision
matches the Cyprus location in dimension including all the features of the
Acropolis Hill. The outer circumference dimension matches the submerged land
mass above water including Cyprus, approximately 1500 miles, its an amazing
match.
I also wouldn't be surprised that in the new world the Morontia temple built in
space will descend on this spot, on the location above water in the new world. I
believe this is where Sion is, Zion in the North of Jerusalem.
I'm only having a stab at it. III know whether I'm wrong or right, soon ok. This
interpretation is subject to change and alteration. Don't hold it against me,
its only research and exploration into reality and events in a timeline.
I think some of thos links in Peru are just fantastic really confirms much in my
research of the tranferance of knowl;edge.
It really connected much more for me. Regarding the Peruvian faces. Do they go
back around 12000 years or so?
All the best
sevens
posted
07-16-2006 06:35 AM
Hi
I was going through the Isaiah Series looking for time markers and I
noticed this
Isaiah 41 25 And there shall be upon every high mountain, and
upon every high hill, rivers and streams of waters in the day of the
great slaughter, when the towers fall.
Note the towers falling.
then in the next verse the mention of the Sevenfold information and
its association with a hypothesis, a time marker,
26 Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the
sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of
seven days, in the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach of his
people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.
then in Isaiah 33, note the mention of the scribe in relation to the
towers?? Its seems very obvious of whom the scriptures speak of.
18 Thine heart shall meditate terror. Where is the scribe? where
is the receiver where is he that counted the towers?
Was that about Bin Laden? a scribe who measured the towers for an
evil purpose? Is that a time reference marker, a clue of the times
that we are in.? Also note the Plural in towers , speaking of 2
towers not one.
I Enoch 99:6
Woe to you, ye perverted in heart, who are watchful to obtain
an accurate knowledge of Evil, and to discover terrors.
No one shall assist you.
All paints the same story about terrorism and the time line.
Isaiah 24 16 From
the uttermost part of the earth have we heard songs, even glory to
the righteous. But I said, My leanness, my leanness, woe unto me!
the treacherous dealers have dealt treacherously; yea, the
treacherous dealers have dealt very treacherously.
17 Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant
of the earth.
18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of
the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the
midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from
on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.
Ive been going through the Isaiah Books, all of them.
Im starting to realise that all of them in essence speak of this
timeline. I really getting the feeling.
11 Ye made also a ditch between the two walls for the water of
the old pool: but ye have not looked unto the maker thereof, neither
had respect unto him that fashioned it long ago.
Eden the discovery of it, who fashioned it. How it is received. No
one sees the significants of it.
regards
sevens
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Hi Ishtar,
How are you? well I hope. I enjoyed your posts and the various bible references.
There all good and certainly matches what I finding.
The past couple of days Ive been going through the Isaiah papers. Its been a
great experience. Ive been reading them from the prospective of the Eden, the
location and the last days, uncovering much. Even though scholars think Isaiah
is forecasting Jesus, which he does. I feel there is a duality that also points
to this current timeline and confirmed many things that I have expressed without
knowing this.
Bizarre as it seems, I recognise many things that are personal that I have
witnessed in my own timeline and discovering the post about the scribe and two
towers in addition the Towers mentioned in the same paper with the sevenfold
prophecy and association with the breach proceeding, it seems more than a
coincidence. Strange!
I also noticed many references of proclamation of beforehand of the event, of a
message that burns hearts which I believe is the test of the soul, before the
event but then I noticed that no hears nor believes at all, there a few in the
Isle (America) that do respond with good tidings towards one another in light of
this message but the rest...nothing at all! I cant believe it.
II'd say that would be right, however what people say and think can be 2
different things. May be deep in there soul, people are considering these things
but I hope they emit the right decision.
I also found a verse that gives you an estimation of how many people will
survive which is 10%. Can you believe it 10 percent!!! What a disaster for non
belief and rejection of the Father and his simple message. Something so simple,
the easiest thing to do with a kind offer that takes no soveriegnty away. Yet in
spite of this man flat out rejects.
If this forecast is correct man is in for a disaster. What a routing that is for
this planet.
10% I cant believe it.
Come on mankind, just a litte prayer, even halfhearted. Thats all it takes if
this information correct and on target. Even if Im wrong its still a good test
of the soul to get his act together.
Anyway, I think Isaiah speaks nearly all about the last times with key markers
of the timeline that we can identify today.
Some people come down on me a bit. Thats OK I understand because I say is
brutal, its not a nice message. But that what Im reading from ancient documents,
that has been preserved for thousands of years in our past. Although there may
be inconsistancy here and there but essentially it should be respected and at
least investigated for whatever reasons becuase in many ways it could be dead
on. Literaly.
At those kinds of Odds of 10% maybe one has to be brutal in what one says.
Instead IId rather show my research, so people can view it themselves and make
up there own mind up.
Personaly, I wouldnt under estimate this information. What was just an adventure
in the scripts with desire is turning out to be something else of a saga, a
desperate saga for mankind. Like condition red for his soul.
Here is the piece out of Isaiah
Isaiah 6 Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his
hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar:
The understanding of this given by God.
7 And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips;
and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.
Self improvement from the information.
8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who
will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.
For sure we all go and proclaim, why not! Its a journey and a half.
9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand
not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.
They dont underdstnad the message and regard this like all other information.
People will not hear nor understand this.
10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut
their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and
understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.
11 Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted
without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly
desolate,
12 And the Lord have removed men far away, and there be a great forsaking in
the midst of the land.
13 But yet in it shall be a tenth, and it shall return, and shall be
eaten: as a teil tree, and as an oak, whose substance is in them, when they
cast their leaves: so the holy seed shall be the substance thereof.
In this piece I looking at
time markers. In the following extract I noticed 70 years as a
timeline
I noticed the term Harlot is used. I wonder why its used? Anyway I
also noticed that The Urantia Book came through in 1934 and the
discovery of Eden was in 2004. That's a seventy year time period
from induction which would of been seen as questionable from
traditional religion. Looked down upon. The
14 Howl, ye ships of
Tarshish: for your strength is laid waste.
A change is apparent in relation to what is about to occur.
15 And it shall come to pass in that day, that Tyre shall be
forgotten seventy years, according to the days of one king: after
the end of seventy years shall Tyre sing as an harlot.
Speculation, The Urantia book came through in 1934 discovery of
1stEden 2004 that's 70 years difference. So we have a discovery 70
years apart and today we have Eden in the scriptures and the
message, a thought.
16 Take an harp, go about the city, thou harlot that hast been
forgotten; make sweet melody, sing many songs, that thou mayest be
remembered.
The Urantia Book, being not considered and frowned upon and 70
years later it is largely forgotten about, until it begins to
shine by the discovery of Eden in 2004, 70 years later. And
proclaimed to jog peoples memory or to introduce the book.
17 And it shall come to pass after the end of seventy years,
that the Lord will visit Tyre, and she shall turn to her hire, and
shall commit fornication with all the kingdoms of the world upon
the face of the earth.
The Lord himself will visit Tyre, visit Earth which at that time
will be corrupt. Apparently a world that will have disbelief in
this and largely will forget God and not be interested a type of
fornication.
18 And her merchandise and her hire shall be holiness to the
Lord: it shall not be treasured nor laid up; for her merchandise
shall be for them that dwell before the Lord, to eat sufficiently,
and for durable clothing.
Suggests that there will be a reversal in the world where the
treasure that man strives for today will be used for practical
purposes in the new world. It wont be treasured or kept away, it
will be shared. Thats the feeling I get.
Also is this the king "according to the days of one king:" Is
Enoch the king note the 7th week, the Urantia Book 70 years ago
from 1934 and the book that led to the discovery of Eden.
1 Enoch 92:l2 Afterwards, in the Seventh Week a perverse
generation shall arise; abundant shall be its deeds, and all its
deeds perverse. During its completion, the righteous shall
be selected from the plant of everlasting righteousness;
and to them shall be given the sevenfold doctrine
respecting every part of his whole creation,
also
1 Enoch 104:10 Another mystery also I point out. To the
righteous and the wise shall be given books of joy, of
integrity, and of great wisdom. To them shall books be given, in
which they shall believe;
Is this a time marker of the current timeline. There seems to be
forming all characters to the saga.
Also note that 2nd Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 70A.D. a 70
year difference from the death of Jesus and then note: the discovery
of Eden seventy years after the beginning of the Urantia Book in
1934, the Sevenfold doctrine and mentioned in Isaiah and in Enoch. I
find that a match in the historic timeline of similar events but one
of resurrection of the temple of today rather than destruction.
14:2 But God the Lord said to Adam, "Indeed I say to you,
this darkness will pass from you, every day I have determined
for you, until the fulfillment of My covenant; when I will
save you and bring you back again into the garden,into
the house of light you long for, in which there is no
darkness*. I will bring you to it -- in the kingdom of
heaven."
40 days test,
direct reference to the complete journey to the ancient places.
Undoubtedly.
Hi Ideopraxist
Un real Ideopraxist, unbelievable!! to say the least. I really liked
the piece you submitted from Ezra. Seems very relevant to the case.
The verse below really spoke to me not to mention all the others.
[22] If then I have
found favor before thee, send the Holy Spirit into me, and I
will write everything that has happened in the world from the
beginning, the things which were written in thy law, that men may
be able to find the path, and that those who wish to live in the
last days may live."
The mystery unlocked beforehand predicting the near future through
the scripts in recognition to the time markers embedded.
[34] If you, then, will rule over your minds and discipline
your hearts, you shall be kept alive, and after death you shall
obtain mercy.
The appeal of the test for personal self correction of the soul,
the openness to God in your heart, like a friend. Show glad
tidings and share the information.
[35] For after death the judgment will come, when we shall
live again; and then the names of the righteous will become
manifest, and the deeds of the ungodly will be disclosed.
The prize for faith is surviving impending earth changes from the
effect of Judgement.
[36] But let no one come to me now, and let no one seek me for
forty days."
A couple of weeks ago I
presented the test scenario before judgement and shortly after I put
40 day period on it and to discover this now and 40 day period where
no one seeks God is match to the 40 day test proclaimed 10 days ago
I think.
I was inspired by the fact that Jesus was in the wilderness for 40
days ,a test and the Israelites were in the wilderness for 40 years,
a testing period before being led into the promised land.
So I equated that 40 day time period with this current test before
being led into the promised land. To find this in Ezra of a 40 days
testing period of the soul is like a match and is a demonstration of
this time phenomena of proceeding out of the mouth and being to led
to scripture after the fact that confirms what was said, beforehand
upon discovery. I'm kind of thinking that making that proclamation
was something that was set in stone or nailed in place by the
Blacksmith mentioned in Isaiah
Its so bizarre it must be a sign that its the right pathway to this
place.
Then when I read this
[39] Then I opened
my mouth, and behold, a full cup was offered to me; it was full of
something like water, but its color was like fire.
Like a coal given from the throne of the temple as mentioned in
Isaiah, Like knowledge and understanding of the Mystery
[40] And I took it and drank; and when I had drunk it,
my heart
poured forth understanding, and wisdom increased in my breast, for
my spirit retained its memory;
By studying it and being led by the Father through the scripts you
begin to unravel it over time and it begins to piece together in a
picture of a scenario.
[41] and my mouth was opened, and was no longer closed.
Couldn't stop talking about it because of the ongoing serious of
discoveries by myself and now by others joining in the quest for
mankind.
Fantastic Ideopraxist thanks for your post, I found so much in that.
Then finding this and consider this whole work is really a testamant
written before and during the 40 day testing period and Ezra says a
book will be written in that time and will be a testament in the
future world. The same time period and reality that are happening
now seems to fit the reality as spoken about. The ending of the 40
day test
[42] And the Most
High gave understanding to the five men, and by turns they wrote
what was dictated, in characters which they did not know.
They sat
forty days, and wrote during the daytime, and ate their bread at
night.
This knowledge is from the most high and is preparation and was a
result of being led in the scripts, looking for Eden/Atlantis of
Cyprus
[43] As for me, I spoke in the daytime and was not silent at
night.
That's true, its compelling and its a fulltime experience and I
wish I could do this fulltime.
[44] So during the forty days ninety-four books were written.
Like in this reality a testament is being compiled as I or we
interpret the scripts in our search. It stimulates search upon
this mystery in the books and unyields its treasures.
[45] And when the forty days were ended, the Most High spoke to
me, saying, "Make public the twenty-four books that you wrote
first and let the worthy and the unworthy read them;
Its like this testament and all the books of the past are being
revealed.
[46] but keep the seventy that were written last, in order to
give them to the wise among your people.
I feel this could be a reference to a new book of God that
harmonises all the other books the Urantia Book. This is the
sevenfold instruction that is given and for me personally its my
guide into the scripts, like leaning on the UB as I discover the
mystery in all the books. Just brilliant.
[47] For in them is the spring of understanding, the fountain
of wisdom, and the river of knowledge."
Great wisdom came out of this new Book The Urantia Book and seems
to match the time period 70 years before the discovery of Eden
same as mentioned in Isaiah where the same 70 year period is
mentioned and related to the same reality.
Now in this period, we are getting the full benefits of all the
books combined. It is a joy to explore and to discover
Eden/Atlantis in the books.
[48] And I did so. 2Esdras 14:20-46.
It is done and is happening now in today's reality.
I think this mystery is all about parallel realities working
together in the unification of the space/time reality and is a
result of the Trinity of Paradise.
There presence must be giving result to this ongoing phenomena of
the scriptures and in the physical reality. Its like spiritual and
physical merging forming a conjunction to a climax. A single point
in time. The discovery or the 40 days. It could be whatever comes
first. Just a thought.
But in reflection we are talking about
A book, 40 day period, like a test in which a book was written, like
a testament. The Most High is involved directly. With judgment
predicted or change and a message.
quote:
Seven's you should like
that, it's "The Seventh Vision" of The Lord to Ezra
WOW!! I am impressed I
just saw that post. Seventh Vision. That's is exactly what is
manifesting. Outstanding. These are big discoveries for religion and
is truly an alive experience and adventure in to the unchartered,
like where no man has gone before and we all experiencing it.
Its worth investigating more, not bad for Atlantis/Eden the location
and what it stirs within mankind.
This is a real living record of the quest for mankind, its a
testament of the future. The great quest. No better quest than
this.as we have structure and in reality. I'm sure future
generations will look upon this record as the great battle of faith
through the mire against all odds a real epic, a saga, a revelatory
and revealed journey of exploration and discovery with wars all
about. An adventure of man in amidst conflict.
The faith of man and God will shine through the darkness and will
illuminate. I have faith the Father will open all doors and none
will be shut by any man.
I'm sure this whole experience is of the highest levels. Just by
witnessing the harmonisation of the scriptures in what we see and
experience.
I admonish you to
give up the practice of always quoting the prophets of old and
praising the heroes of Israel, and instead aspire to become
living prophets of the Most High and spiritual heroes of the
coming kingdom. To honor the God-knowing leaders of the past
may indeed be worth while, but why, in so doing, should you
sacrifice the supreme experience of human existence: finding
God for yourselves and knowing him in your own souls?
Apparently there is second location close to site . Its bigger than the
Acropolis Hill and on one end there looks like a quarry area with large blocks
like in Baalbek.. The wall is mentioned in The Urantia Book in the exact place.
The discovery of Atlantis Book predicted the location even before the French
images where known. The only evidence they had in 2003 was Russian Bathymetric
data.
Since then there has been an abundance of evidence and agreement on the ruins..
Again this the Book and the discovery was all before the event. There is
time/space phenomena that surrounds this place and especially through the
scripts. Just look for Eden, hidden stone, mountain, hidden things, garden,
boughs as keywords in all the books and it will begin and interesting journey.
All the best
sevens
Hi Rajesh
Its a real shame with all the wrong interpretation of religion that
it comes down to this.
Religion is supposed to be a beautiful thing of the soul where a
person shines through truth, beauty and goodness. No violence.
You know I have high hopes that the Cyprus location could bring
peace to the region by its further discovery but now the whole
region is virtually a war zone.
But then we have to have faith that this will pass and the light of
the Father will shine through like a beacon. No violence or harm to
our fellow man. But surely that is the true witness of religion, the
fruits it leaves. I believe that if we think that a solution is at
hand it will come to pass with a construct that is already available
in the all the scripts.
I think what is happening is virtually the last stand scenario
playing itself out and interestingly it is mentioned in the scripts
that there will be war. On the same token you have Eden/Atlantis and
the truth behind it just around the corner. You have all the
characters in reality playing out there role as described in the
past.
I would take heart that eventually things may change soon, hopefully
for the best. Its funny putting faith in the message of
Atlantis/Eden ruins to bring in world peace today. You know it could
be the catalysts that no one can explain and would be confounded by
it. Particulary if there is an event. It does come from a level
which is an independent source that no one can lay claim to except
the Urantia Book interestingly. The location does have a deep
underlying message like the father sitting in the background ready
to swoop and correct. I believe that we are in the last throws of
all this conflict. One doesnt have to go to the location for a
correction to happen. It will be interesting to see what happens in
the next month and how all sides respond.
I noticed another earth quake near Java I wonder if this will be
more apparent.
Anyway here is a thought from the UB.
linkShame on those false religious teachers who would
drag hungry souls back into the dim and distant past and there
leave them! And so are these unfortunate persons doomed to
become frightened by every new discovery, while they are
discomfited by every new revelation of truth.
The prophet who said, "He will be kept in perfect peace whose
mind is stayed on God," was not a mere intellectual believer
in authoritative theology.
This truth-knowing human had discovered God; he was not merely
talking about God.
Ideopraxist Ive been looking at Isaiah and found many references to
beforehand scenarios. Like in the following. I think there maybe
some in Ezra. When I finish Isaiah III have to look in to Ezra but I
do see similarities in both books which speak of the same thing.
Isaiah 48:2 For they
call themselves of the holy city, and stay themselves upon the God
of Israel; The Lord of hosts is his name.
3 I have declared the former things from the beginning; and
they went forth out of my mouth, and I shewed them; I did them
suddenly, and they came to pass.
The realties that are present fit this scenario or is in the
process.
regards
sevens
Hi Ideopraxist
Its is a great revelation and you identify the reality time markers
that are spread throughout the books and piece them together using
the physical location of Eden as the focus you can piece the
mystery, What I call the mystery of the Seven Stars. Surely this
reality as seen in the scriptures over time through all the God
revelaed men is the reality stamp of the Gods and with men of
vision. Evolved over time. The truth of the Heaven over space/time
pointing to this one reality and then a realisation concerning his
his soul, mankinds soul.
This is way beyond man and is a demonstration of the Father through
a wonder and a book. This is the birth of a great realisation or
mystery of God, of the ancients.
Everything that is was written is now.
Im glad you're seeing this, Its where the witness of two see it and
Jesus is in the midst as the heavenly witness. There is a response,
an heavenly response. Its amazing that now we see through the paths
that Eden/Atlantis was the clue in physical and with its focus on it
unlocked the message of the Gods, an endorsement of an message that
is already espoused today.
So everything this that has occurred has occurred beforehand in faith
and then realising it later in the scripts. Now if this true and
correct this realisation then what is to come must be true as well.
That is the test of the test of mans soul. If all is true then the
foreseen reality at this point on should unfold as according to all
the ancient scripts. I feel the revelation of Jesus in the scripts
has a duality to this time. Its all faith journey.
I never thought that studying the old testament was so compelling
and mysterious. I study at the moment which becomes a second
priority when you consider this huge discovery. That is the
perplexity of faith, Its an all faith journey into the scripts and
its a journey of faith.
Anyway, thanks for looking into it for me.
Here is a piece I found in the Book of Jubilees 2 years ago. Its got
some of my ideas imbedded. This was a major as you will see.
Jubilees 8 " 26
(even) sweet spices acceptable before the Lord on the Mount. For
the Lord has four places on the earth, the Garden of Eden, and the
Mount of the East, and this mountain on which thou art this day,
Mount Sinai, and Mount Zion will be sanctified in the new creation
for a sanctification of the earth;
This mountain is mentioned and is held in the same regard as a
holy mountain. Its all about the location, its the Cyprus location
Eden/Atlantis.
In the following is another reference to the 1st Garden of Eden
from the Book of Jubilees.
23 testified against (them) all. And he was taken from amongst
the children of men, and we conducted him into the Garden of Eden
(1st Eden) in majesty and honour, and behold there he writes down
the condemnation.
24 and judgment of the world, and all the wickedness of the
children of men. And on account of it (God) brought the waters of
the flood upon all the land of Eden; (As a consequence of
disobedience) for there he was set as a sign (So the submerged
1stEden becomes a sign for the future.) and that he should testify
against all the children of men, that he should recount all the
25 deeds of the generations until the day of condemnation.
(judgement day) And he burnt the incense of the sanctuary,
Really spells out the whole scenario and what is is coming to pass.
Its amazing this journey, there is no location on earth where its
all coming together and when man has realised this. I'm sure man
will respond.
The feeling I get. Is that its a race of time. Now that it is
unlocked and recognised the time clock begins, like in the movies and there are
traps like attitudinal traps that can be corrected through its message.
Many people will fall in the pit through disbelief even in light of the clues,
the reality clues. Thats what the scripts says.
8:12 When I hold my tongue,
they shall bide my leisure, and when I speak, they shall give good ear
unto me: if I talk much, they shall lay their hands upon their mouth.
8:13 Moreover by the means of her I shall obtain immortality, and leave
behind me an everlasting memorial to them that come after me.
8:14 I shall set the people in order, and the nations shall be subject
unto me.
9:17 And thy counsel who hath known, except thou give wisdom, and send
thy Holy Spirit from above?
9:18 For so the ways of them which lived on the earth were reformed, and men
were taught the things that are pleasing unto thee, and were saved through
wisdom.
10:1 She preserved the first formed father of the world, that was
created alone, and brought him out of his fall,
10:2 And gave him power to rule all things.
10:3 But when the unrighteous went away from her in his anger, he perished
also in the fury wherewith he murdered his brother.
10:4 For whose cause the earth being drowned with the flood, wisdom again
preserved it, and directed the course of the righteous in a piece of wood
of small value.
10:5 Moreover, the nations in their wicked conspiracy being confounded,
she found out the righteous, and preserved him blameless unto God, and
kept him strong against his tender compassion toward his son
11:4 When they were thirsty, they called upon thee, and water was given
them out of the flinty rock, and their thirst was quenched out of the hard
stone.
Its like a type for knowledge coming from the Acropolis Hill of Cyprus.
same thing.
12:1 For thine incorruptible Spirit is in all things.
12:2 Therefore chastenest thou them by little and little that offend, and
warnest them by putting them in remembrance wherein they have offended,
that leaving their wickedness they may believe on thee, O Lord.
12:3 For it was thy will to destroy by the hands of our fathers both those
old inhabitants of thy holy land,
12:26 But they that would not be reformed by that correction, wherein
he dallied with them, shall feel a judgment worthy of God.
12:27 For, look, for what things they grudged, when they were punished,
that is, for them whom they thought to be gods; [now] being punished in
them, when they saw it, they acknowledged him to be the true God, whom
before they denied to know: and therefore came extreme damnation upon
them.
13:1 Surely vain are all men by nature, who are ignorant of God, and
could not out of the good things that are seen know him that is: neither
by considering the works did they acknowledge the workmaster;
18:24 For in the long garment was the whole world, and in the four rows
of the stones was the glory of the fathers graven, and thy Majesty upon
the daidem of his head.
18:25 Unto these the destroyer gave place, and was afraid of them: for it
was enough that they only tasted of the wrath.
18:6 Of that night were our fathers certified afore, that assuredly
knowing unto what oaths they had given credence, they might afterwards be
of good cheer.
18:7 So of thy people was accepted both the salvation of the righteous,
and destruction of the enemies.
18:9 For the righteous children of good men did sacrifice secretly, and
with one consent made a holy law, that the saints should be like partakers
of the same good and evil, the fathers now singing out the songs of
praise.
18:14 For while all things were in quiet silence, and that night was in
the midst of her swift course,
18:15 Thine Almighty word leaped down from heaven out of thy royal
throne, as a fierce man of war into the midst of a land of destruction,
18:16 And brought thine unfeigned commandment as a sharp sword, and
standing up filled all things with death; and it touched the heaven, but
it stood upon the earth.
18:21 For then the blameless man made haste, and stood forth to defend
them; and bringing the shield of his proper ministry, even prayer, and the
propitiation of incense, set himself against the wrath, and so brought the
calamity to an end, declaring that he was thy servant.
18:22 So he overcame the destroyer, not with strength of body, nor force
of arms, but with a word subdued him that punished, alleging the oaths and
covenants made with the fathers.
This is a whole scenario of the change before the earth changes is expressed
this series of books of wisdom and confirmed by the other texts
that speak about the last times, the process. All about the timeline
we are in.
14:17 And that thine
handmaid hath not eaten at Aman's table, and that I have not
greatly esteemed the king's feast, nor drunk the wine of the drink
offerings
Is this the same Amam as in the Egyptian Book of the Dead.
THE OSIRIS AUFANKH, WHOSE WORD IS TRUTH, SAITH: Hail, saith
Horus, O Twenty-first pylon of the Still-Heart! I have made the
way. I know thee.
I know thy name. I know the name of the goddess who guardeth thee.
"Sword that smiteth at the utterance of its own name, stinking
face, overthrower of him that approacheth her flame" is thy name.
Thou keepest the hidden things of the avenger of the god, thou
guardest them.
Amam is his name.
He maketh the ash trees not to grow, and the shenu trees not to
blossom, and preventeth copper from being found in the mountain.
The Tchatcha (Chiefs) of this Pylon are Seven Gods. Tchen, or
Anthch (At), is the name of the one at the door. Hetepmes is the
name of another there. Messep is the name of another there.
Utchara is the name of another there. Beq is the name of another
there. Anp (Anubis) is the name of another there
Thats a strong connection into the Book of the Dead a direct
parallel in the Additions to Esther.
We can only pray and hope that the positive pathway laid down in the texts and
in the discovery will be a powerful positive force that will bring peace into
this world. It just amazes me that we look upon ancient ruins for the answer
which all goes back to the beginning, back to the Father of all.
I hope that this revelation will overcome the negative aspects of religion and
its interpretation. I feel through revelation lays the answer. People will see
it and look in contrast and make the right decision and make changes. I hope!
Oh well see what happens. But its a mystery and a half and bigger than any
mystery of truth and all paralleled to Jesus and the message which was all
designed for no in this timeline. Even his whole life was about now.Its a great
message and a great path to research and discover for anyone.
all the best
sevens
Hi ideapraxist
The more I look at the flash presentation I think its definitely the location
with a small piece of the map broken off. Even in light of that It looks like
the tablet or map of Atlantis, of the location of Cyprus. It has all the
characteristics. particularly the isthmus and the river running through the
middle of it . Its an island in an inland sea.
I hope this brings more light to the interpretation.
Also look at the East - West longitudinal lines seems to fit Cyprus
Consider the, story of the Faces tablet, the story, 2 stories in one picture
representing the fall as in the Bible, all the characters are there. A
relationship that went sour. Like in the Eden story and then you have the map of
the Cyprus location on top of the tablet with writings of some sort around the
edges.
Very interesting to say the least.
With the first tablet it could be a mother Goddess representation Eve and Cain??
.....speculation.
Luke21
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then
know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and
let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not
them that are in the countries enter there into.
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which
are written may be fulfilled.
23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give
suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the
land, and wrath upon this people.
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led
away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down
of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in
the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with
perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after
those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of
heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud
with power and great glory
28 Now when these things begin to take place, straighten up and
raise your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”
29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all
the trees;
30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own
selves that summer is now nigh at hand.
31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know
ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. 32 Verily I say
unto you, This generation shall not pass away,till all be
fulfilled. 33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall
not pass away.
34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your
hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares
of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the
face of the whole earth.
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be
accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to
pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
I was thinking maybe they
were Andites that arrived in Peru around the 12000 year mark when
the sea levels where lower and there was an island land bridge East
to West From Japan all the way to Peru across the Pacific.
The arrivals were regarded as Gods and the religion of the Gods was
perpetuated in the myths and legends and does find harmonisation in
the stars and the knowledge of them particularly Orion's belt. Thus
you had a transference of knowledge and religion from Mesopotamia to
Peru and the rest of the area through there legends throughout all
the races in Sth America.
Easter Island was a central point. Australia was also visited and
the visitors did leave there mark in Central Queensland. Maybe some
of them hitched a ride and brought some of there ideas. The Andites
certainly left their mark through out the world in there travels
especially in Peru in the Inca race where they intermingled with
them. 132 of them.
The stars of Orion's belt and what the constellation represents is
the connecting parallel. In my view the Orion's belt represents the
isle of God which can be entered into through an isthmus and 2 sets
of gates, the 12 gates. Orion's belt rises and falls in the timeline
and goes through an equinox every 26,000 years. One timeline and a
half ago on the descending equinox Atlantis was built and now were
are entering an ascending equinox when its is rediscovered.
It seems like a connection of Egyptian and Inca knowledge, the same
knowledge , its origins are the Sethite truth of the stars which all
point to land of the Gods with purpose.
Its interesting that Aztecs reliefs seem to suggest an ancient map
similar to Orion's star map similar to Atlantis and all the
connections of the deluge with tectonic and volcanic action in their
myths.
Here is an outline of an Aztec relief with my spin on it. Its what I
read in it. Note: the seven stars that surround the hill, Orions
belt has seven stars and combine with other constellations makes an
interesting and familiar Map outline.
I thought if you combined all the commonalities off their religions
and myths and the starmap clues to what discovered represents an
interesting harmonisation.
Didn't the Inca themselves speak of change in around 2012, in there
own words. Doesn't major religions today talk about change, Its
seems like the message of the Gods point to the one place and the
myths of that place has spread throughout the world only to be part
of the puzzle that is coming together, in this timeline. In the
ascending equinox, seems like a good time for a mystery to unravel.
I thought it was a fascinating study. However if you look at it from
the prospective of the sunken location and the canals that come from
the top of the Acropolis Hill and where the The Cyprus location is.
Its a bullseye! This interpretation is pointing directly to the
location.
http://home.valornet.com/eldavis/The_Garden.html
Look at the following from the location prospective.
Here is an extract of the study.
ktu relate to Ugarit scripts
In Judean tradition,
the mountain that Yahweh had his throne was Zion. Thus in Psalm
2:6-8, Yahweh calls Zion "my holy hill," in Psalm 24:1-8
"Yahweh the warrior" enters through the "ancient gates" of his
"holy place" in the "mountain of Yahweh", and in Psalm 46:4,
the "city of God" is called "the holy place where the Most High
dwells." Zion appears to be the mountain described in 1 Enoch
26, from which a deep valley descends -- the "accursed valley"
where the souls of the wicked are tormented (i.e. Gehenna)
according to 1 Enoch 27. According to Isaiah 14:12-15, Sheol
lies at the base of the cosmic mountain, and it is only natural
for the deep valley below it to be associated with the underworld.
Note also that a valley adjoining the Hinnom valley is called the
Valley of the Rephaim in Joshua 15:8, 18:16; 2 Samuel 5:18, 23:13;
1 Chronicles 11:15, 20:4 and the Rephaim were the ghosts of the
dead residing in Sheol (cf. Job 26:5-6; Isaiah 14:4-5, 9-11,
26:14). The earthly valleys associated with the underworld also
evoke the "valleys of Sheol" where the Rephaim are found according
to Proverbs 9:18. It was in fact in the valley of Hinnom below
Zion where the ancestor cult of Molech was practiced (2 Kings
23:10; Isaiah 30:33, 57:9; Jeremiah 7:31-33, 19:4-6, 32:35). There
is an exact parallel in the Canaanite culture of Syria and
northern Israel, which designated Mt. Hermon as the "mountain
of El" and the Bashan area below it as the realm of the dead,
where Rapiu (aka Molek, or Milku) was enthroned as king in the
cities of Ashtaroth/Athtart and Edrei (cf. KTU 1.108 R 1-3, 11-13,
V 22-29; compare Genesis 14:5, Deuteronomy 1:4, 3:10, and Joshua
9:10, 12:4, 13:12, 31 which amazingly also locate the Rephaim in
the cities of Ashtaroth and Edrei in Bashan). In fact, Psalm 42 is
directly dependent on this northern view of El's abode being
located in Mt. Hermon (also called Mt. Misar):
I am on my way to the
wonderful Tent, to the House of God , among cries of joy and
praise and an exultant throng. Why so downcast, my soul, why do
you sigh within me? Put your hope in God, I shall praise him
yet, my savior, my God. When my soul is downcast within me, I
think of you; from the land of Jordan and in Hermon, in Mount
Misar deep is calling to deep as your cataracts roar."
(Psalm 42:4-7)
The reference to "deep calling to deep" is based in the
Canaanite notion that the cosmic mountain where El makes his abode
joins the heavenly "Deep" (cf. Genesis 1:6) with the subterranean
"deep" contained within the mountain (cf. Job 28:9-11, 38:16-17).
In the Ugaritic Baal Epic, we read of the god Kothar heading
"toward El at the springs of the Double-Rivers, amidst the
channels of the Double-Deeps. He comes to the mountain of El and
enters the tent of the King, the Father of Years" (KTU 1.2 III
4-5). Similarly, in another myth El's mountain palace is said to
lie "at the springs of the Two Rivers, at the meeting place of
the Double-Deeps (mbk nhrm b'dt thmtm, KTU 1.100 R 1-4). In
the OT, we also read how Yahweh "builds his palace on the
waters above" and "sits enthroned on the Flood" (Psalm
29:10; 104:2-3), and Ezekiel 28:2 has the Phoenician king declare:
"I am El ('l), in the dwelling of the gods ('lhym); I dwell in
the midst of the seas (ymym)."
The motif of
Yahweh's mountain Zion standing at the source of primeval
subterranean waters appears in Psalm 36:8-9, Isaiah
33:20-22, Ezekiel 47:1-22; Joel 4:18, Zechariah 14:8, 1 Enoch
26:1-2, and is alluded to in Matthew 7:24-25, 16:18, and John
7:38. In later Jewish tradition, the foundation for the Temple
was believed to have kept the subterranean floods at bay; it was
said to be the stone on which the world is based (Yoma 54b), and
David was said to have removed the stone in his search
for the great Abyss (Yer Sanh. x. 29a; Suk. 53a).
Likening the Qumran community to the Temple, the Thanksgiving
Hymns utilize the ancient cosmological concept to connote their
struggle against the forces of Satan:
(Exactly in the process, the significants of this find of Cyprus
1stEden where it all began...my thoughts.)
"As the Abysses boil above the foundations of the waters, their
towering waves and billows shall rage with the voice of their
roaring; and as they rage, Sheol and Abaddon shall open and all
the flying arrows of the Pit shall send out their voice to the
Abyss. And the gates of Sheol shall open on all the works of
vanity and the doors of the Pit shall close on the conceivers of
wickedness..... The torrents of Belial shall break into Abaddon,
and the deeps of the Abyss shall groan amid the roar of the
heaving mud.... The heavenly hosts shall cry out and the
world's foundations shall swagger and sway....The deeps resound to
my groaning and my soul has journeyed to the gates of death.
(1QH 11:16-19, 32-35)
The waters on El's
mountain however are not dammed up but flow and water creation.
In the Gilgamesh Epic (11.194-96), the abode of the gods lies
"at the mouth of the rivers" (ina pi narati ), and an Akkadian
seal from Mari similarly depicts "a god of the type of El
enthroned, between the springs of two streams, on a mountain. He
is flanked by two vegetarian goddesses who grow out from the
waters" (O. Keel, "Ancient Seals and the Bible," JAOS
1986:309). This recalls the description of the four rivers of
the Garden of Eden in Genesis 2, which according to Ezekiel
28:13-14 was located in "the holy mountain of God" (hr
qds 'lhym). Thus Genesis 2:6 noted that at Eden "streams (or
a "flood") came up from the earth and watered the whole surface
of the ground", and the four rivers described in v. 10-44
include the Gihon, which was the name of the subterranean spring
and river at Jerusalem (cf. 2 Chronicles 32:30). The mention of
the Tigris and Euphrates however shows a dependence on Akkadian
traditions as well. In parallel to Ezekiel, the Genesis
description also mentions onyx and gold (Genesis 2:11-12),
though not in the Garden per se, as well as cherubs (3:24).
( We know that Eden is compromised of clay on igneous foundations
hence Mt Olympus on Cyprus closeby and springs have been located
on the to of the Acropolis Hill.)
Thus far we have seen that Eden was located on the "mountain of
God" in OT tradition, identified with Mount Zion in
Judean Yahwism, under which flowed the waters of the abyss --
the "waters of life" which watered creation.(That was a clear
description of Eden of Cyprus) Sheol was also located below the
cosmic mountain, and a cult of the dead typically occurred in the
valleys running down from this mountain. The Temple on Mt. Zion
would thus be equivalent with the Garden itself, as Lawrence
E. Stager's article "Jerusalem as Eden" (BAR, May/June 2000)
points out
This interpretation seems to all point to Mt Zion Gods name for the
location. Understand the Acropolis Hill has 2 springs on top and
there are 2 canals that run from the top to below to the greater
city. This is the location as described of Mt Zion, Atlantis, Maati,
Eden original Atzlan, take your pic.
I just did a search on the seal of Mari and this what I found.
Note the concentric circles that represent the 2 springs on the
mount and the city below. I also note that the flank of the mountain
are circled and follows the shape of the 2 springs. This is a direct
match to new research found in the members section of Discovery of
Atlantis.
This is a major find. The seal of Mari is the plan view of the
Acropolis Hill and the city below and matchs the evidence found in
the 2003 expedition.
In the Normal position the Mari stone depicts the Acropolis Hill and
the City below with water North and South.
Turn it 90 degrees counterclockwise and you have the completion of
the map with the 12 gates protecting the garden land and the arrow
in the direction through the 12 gates to the location, through the
isthmus with the great river running through the middle of it
towards the Euhprates
Its a 3 dimensional picture of the location.
Oh and note that there are 7 concentric circles that surround the
springs of the water of life!! The Seven ,Master spirits of life and
expression, again the sevens. Aboriginals in Australia use the same
symbols signifying the water of life.
Also as Im looking at it further, what I think is the city south of
the hill or could it be representation of the 12 gates of Eden that
protected the Garden city. Are we seeing an ancient map of 1stEden?
Is this the true interpretation of this Seal of Mari??
And what do you think of the upside down triangle, does that
represent change or simply direction out of the land to the east?
The seal could look like an owl, but maybe underlying this view
without knowing it, is really all about the submerged location: a
map to the home of the Gods. Could be?
I also noticed to the North it has mountains and to the south you
have the location and the city and you again you have water. Does
that infers an island with water about? or maybe the triangle is the
isthmus with the 12 gates for entry on the island? Like a Seal with
a complete description of the landmass and important submerged
locations.
The Home of the Double Deep! This could be an ancient map with a
description of the location
The following describes the double deep and the fall of Man context
with the location and confirms the story known about it.
"The mother of the stallion, Mare, daughter of spring,
daughter of heaven and the deep, called to Shapsh her mother, 'Shapsh,
my mother, carry my voice to El at the source of the rivers, at
the meeting place of the Double-Deeps.
to relate to Ugarit scripts
The location of 1st Eden, the submerged location of Cyprus.
A spell against the bite of a snake, against the venom of a
snake that has sloughed. From it, let the conjurer destroy, from
it let him cast out the poison'..... Towards Horon she turned her
face, for she was about to be deprived of her offspring.
A description of the Fall of Eve and does have strong parallels to
The Urantia Book account.
He went to the eastern city. Then he set his face towards the
Tigris abounding in rain, and the well-watered city of Tigris
('rsch < Hurrian Arassich "Tigris").
After the fall, Adam and Eve was expelled to the East of first
Eden towards the 2nd homeland between the Tigris and Euphrates and
established themselves there.
He uprooted from among the trees the tamarisk, and from among
the shrubs the Tree of Death. With the tamarisk he shook it out;
with the fruit-cluster he drove it away; with the foilage he
dismissed it; with the roots he carried it off.
He worked the 2nd Garden and cultivated the area, because he lost
his immortality he had to virtually work with shrubs of death. He
was reduced to a mortal man/God
Horon went to his house and came to his court. The poison
became weak like a stream-bed, it flowed away like a stream.
Behind her the house of incantation, behind her the house she
shut, behind her the bronze she shot.
Adam and Eve suffered mortality and noticed the difference. They
desired to go back to the first garden
Horon: 'Open the house, spell, open the house that I may enter,
the palace that I may come in.'
Pleaded to be let in but was denied.
Mare: 'Give me the snake as my gift, give me the reptile as my
dowry, and the young serpent as my present.' Horon: 'I shall give
the snake as your present, the young serpent as your present'
(KTU 1.100 R 1-6, V 60-75)
Even though they were denied if they bring the head of the snake
they will be allowed in. Tis exactly what is occuring right now in
the timeline.
I ffel in the right way is a map that leads to the location.
If you sit back some 10 ft and use the lazy eye, like watching a 3 dimensional
pictures and concerntrate on the bottom of the triangle you can see a 3
dimensional picture of the 12 gates of Eden with the great river running through
the middle of it. A direct match to the Urantia Account and all the 12 markers
in the bible and other scripts.
The 12 gates of Eden are protecting the mountain of God with The 2 springs are
on top of the mountain running down to the city. This is where Adam and Eve
manifested and lasted for 1000 years before being expelled to the east beyond
the gates.
His myth and legend has perpetuated through many religions such like this
ancient one.
IIn this picorial I believe the Mari Seal has been broken and is relevant to the
Cyprus case as the submerged land of the Gods.
Hi Greg
Thanks for your post I found it interesting and very intriguing. I
found the ring you was talking about in Bimini quite interesting. I
wish you al the best with the Cuban Government in a permit to
explore. It sounds like a personal presentation would have to be
done to get the permission. I remember 5 years ago I found images of
block anomalies submerged of Cuba somewhere that resembles a lay out
of stone buildings in sand. I'm sure something lays there and I wish
you all success the obtain the right permits for the exploration.
Thanks also for the Cygnus information. I look forward to reading
the book. That sounds very interesting and if can be confirmed
scientifically that should be interesting.
In relation to my last post, I'm just fascinated in the parallels in
the star information and in the Inca culture and the links to
Mesopotamia .
Here is a link to a picture I copied from Google of the island land
bridge that where close to each enough for medium sized boats to
island hop from the Japan, Western Pacific to Peru.
The information I look into are books like The Urantia Book and the
scripts to see if I can find physical clues that match the
information. Anyway in the UB it does mention a transfer of
knowledge and admixation of they call The Andites that did originate
from Mesopotamia/Sumerian and where the forerunners of the Egyptians
way back in history before the flood. Back some some thousand of
years ago when the sea levels where lower there was an island land
bridge connecting Japan to Peru that seems to stand out in Google.
It looks quite interesting and considering a lower sea level would
make islands and greater landmasses stand out that could form the
island land bridge from Mesopotamia to Peru. Also the discovering
the Sumerian bowl in Bolivia was an outstanding find and I feel gave
weight to the idea. Considering what we know about the Sumerians is
only the tail end of an very ancient civilisation that I feel goes
back much further than what we know.
Here is a link to these Sumerian discoveries Bolivia.
If that is the case admixation would of occurred and having been
revered as Gods having fair skin and beards became part of the Inca
Myths. Even there cosmology that was presented in a documentary
seemed to have many parallels to Mesopotamian
star knowledge.
With that admixation of knowledge and culture throughout the
thousands of years it would of emanated in various legends and
tribal religions in the surrounding areas as depictions and
parallels of ancient stories from afar, stories of the Gods and
thier demise.
"The righteous shrine,
anoint (this) shrine, anoint (this) shrine; The leader takes an
oath [to] Establish purity, a favorable oracle (and to) Establish
character. [Oh leader of the cult] Open up a unique light [for
all], [who] wish for a noble life".
Also here is link The Back and side inscriptions on the Pokotia
Monolith
Here is the message of the last panel
quite interesting
"(Putaki) speaks (in)
true measure, to send forth gladness (for all). Send forth
nourish(ment). (The oracle Putaki is) the father of wisdom (and)
benefit (for all). (The oracle) to become a visible witness of
the diving decree and knowledge. (This) pure oracle speaks the
divine decree (and) makes (it) a visible witness (of the deity's
power)."
Gee, we are witnessing this oracle and a divine decree today in its
message today. This oracle is a witness of today's decree through
these discoveries of now! surely we are, especially in light of
today's conversation. How relevant is that?? for today. Are we about
to witness and we revisit and discover its meaning further. Are we
coming close to something? Its a whole path discovery. Just Blown
away! Is the message through the oracle a self fulfilling prophecy?
and its a witness of today's proclamation!!!!
I hope that was interesting. It was like a little revelation for me
in terms of the topics I what venture into.
Thanks again for your post it was interesting. I hope you come up
with more evidence in the future.
Bernardo's discovery of
the Pokotia monument supports the research of the Verrills that
the Sumerians came to South America in search of metals. A.H
Verrill and R. Verrill, Americas ancient civilizations (New York:
Putnam, 1953), and J. Bailey Sailing to Paradise, (New York: Simon
& Schuster, 1994) maintain that the area around Lake Titicaca may
have been called Lake Manu, by the Sumerians. According to the
Verrills and Bailey the Sumerians came to this area in search of
tin. They support this view by a discussion of the Sumerian
traditions, that Sumerians set sail to the land west of the
Mediterranean that they called the "Tin land of the West" or
"Sunset Land". It is interesting to note that a major center in
this area is Potosi. Bailey suggest that Potosi may relate to the
Sumerian term Patesi the Sumerian term for 'priest king'
quote:
a discussion of the
Sumerian traditions, that Sumerians set sail to the land west of
the Mediterranean that they called the "Tin land of the West" or
"Sunset Land".
I thought that was
interesting, I think within the Eastern Med, the land beyond the
gates, the land beyond the sea to the West, the submerged location.
The tin land of the west in relation to Sumerian or is the "Isle of
the Gods" in the west where the tree of life was? where tin is
represented as their home that went down in a flood as seen in that
Aztec relief. Looks like a picture coming together or a parallel.
The mention of the Med, even from Bolivia and considering the Aztec
relief in my last post with my spin on it, the map of the Eastern
Mediterranean and the isle of the Gods and there message even from
Bolivia and its relevance of it, today??
The Land in the West is described in the Book of Noah
here is a description
of the Mediterranean deluge
67.4 And they will shut up those Angels, who showed iniquity, in
that burning valley, (Eden Valley) which my great-grandfather
Enoch had shown to me previously, in the west, (assuming Noah is
in Mesopotamia to the east of the 1st Eden location) near the
mountains of gold and silver and iron and soft metal and tin.
67.5 And I saw that valley, (The valley of Eden) in which there
was a great disturbance, and a heaving of the waters. (tsunami
effect) (The Urantia Book rendition of the deluge) Here for
another description of the Mediterranean deluge.
67.6 And when all this happened, from the fiery molten metal,
(Volcanic) and the disturbance, (earthquake) which disturbed the
waters in that place, a smell of sulphur (volcanic) was produced,
and it was associated with those waters. (Water from the Atlantic,
from the west) And that valley (valley of Eden) of the Angels (1st
Eden), who led men astray, burns under the ground. (submerged)
67.7 And through the valleys of that same area, flow out rivers of
fire where those Angels will be punished, who led astray those on
the dry ground. (The Valley was once on dry ground inferring that
the area that is now submerged) Images of 1st Eden
This is all seen in reference from the 2nd garden between The
Euphrates and The Tigris.
It all seems to fit in the Mari Seal, a map of the "Tin land of the
West" or "Sunset Land" the city and its acropolis hill with springs
atop and its 12 gates on the isthmus, protecting the land of favour,
that went down in the flood, a deluge which was recorded and
transferred, even to Bolivia, by the priests. just incredible!
For me a big find was the Akkadian Seal of Mari with the 12 gates
and the 2 springs on the hill, the location.
then last night I was responding to a post on the Bimini thread
which became a research paper at the end. As I was drawing on past
research going through the links I started to see more in it where I
discovered the further Pokati decipherment of Sumerian writings
found around Lake Tititacha. Confirms all the UB information but the
message of the stones was quite remarkable and relevant for today.
Here is an extract the Sumerian writing found in Bolivia from the
imini post with links.
"The righteous shrine, anoint (this) shrine, anoint (this) shrine;
The leader takes an oath [to] Establish purity, a favorable oracle
(and to) Establish character. [Oh leader of the cult] Open up a
unique light [for all], [who] wish for a noble life".
Also here is link The Back and side inscriptions on the Pokotia
Monolith
Here is the message of the last panel
quite interesting
"(Putaki) speaks (in) true measure, to send forth gladness (for
all). Send forth nourish(ment). (The oracle Putaki is) the father
of wisdom (and) benefit (for all). (The oracle) to become a
visible witness of the diving decree and knowledge. (This) pure
oracle speaks the divine decree (and) makes (it) a visible witness
(of the deity's power)."
So in essence we have 2 stones and a bowl, One with information and
the bowl with identical information and the Seal of Mari is relic of
a map of the location and its key features.
These stones are like seals of imagery of the mountains of the gods
and symbols that can be recognised and now we have there prophecies
coming to pass with its discovery and meaning overall.
Inn the following is another artifact with a side view of an
headress of a priest or king with a beard and different features of
the people in the area.
Here is what they link
it to, the Akkadian period and note the the Mari seal connection.
We are dealing with an object which was made in keeping with
Mesopotamian tradition.
It contains two texts, one in cuneiform and another Semitic
language of possible Sinaitic extraction cuneiform influences.
According to the symbols used one would be before an object that
evidently shows itself to be from the transitional period between
ideographical writing and cuneiform.
Chronologically, this leads us to the 3500/3000 B.C., the
Sumerian/Akkadian period.
Then you have the Mari Connection. massive.
Note in the Fuentemagna Bowl you have the rectangular images sides
by side each other encircling to the middle, similar to the Mari
Seal of the 2 springs with 7 concentric circles surrounding each
spring.
I think that is an interesting link to 2 seals connected perhaps to
a common culture. on the opposite end of the world. There message
that survives is relevant for today.
Bernardo's discovery of
the Pokotia monument supports the research of the Verrills that
the Sumerians came to South America in search of metals. A.H
Verrill and R. Verrill, Americas ancient civilizations (New York:
Putnam, 1953), and J. Bailey Sailing to Paradise, (New York: Simon
& Schuster, 1994) maintain that the area around Lake Titicaca may
have been called Lake Manu, by the Sumerians. According to
the Verrills and Bailey the Sumerians came to this area in search
of tin. They support this view by a discussion of the Sumerian
traditions, that Sumerians set sail to the land west of the
Mediterranean that they called the "Tin land of the West" or
"Sunset Land". It is interesting to note that a major center
in this area is Potosi. Bailey suggest that Potosi may relate to
the Sumerian term Patesi the Sumerian term for 'priest king'
Note Lake Manu similar to the word Mari, Lake Manu the sea where
the isle of the Gods was. Like "Mari" is the Name of the isle of the
Gods and "Mari in the sea of Manu". and its great God at that time
must have links to Shamesh and then must have links to Ugarit
writing which is all about the location, of Cyprus. Thing is no one
planted the evidence there as it is set in stone and links to the
bowl.
Now Mari in the Sea of Manu went down in a deluge which is described
in the following Book of Noah from the Book of Enoch and the
connection or parallel is the land of Tin where in the Book of Noah
its the mountain of Tin. Its the location
In the following is the Book of Noah within the Book of Enoch. Its
is a rendition of the Deluge that destroyed Eden and its connection
to Bolivia through the mountain of Tin connect pathway. In drawing
this from previous research as the picture is beginning to form.
here is a description
of the Mediterranean deluge
67.4 And they will shut up those Angels, who showed iniquity, in
that burning valley, (Eden Valley) which my great-grandfather
Enoch had shown to me previously, in the west , (assuming
Noah is in Mesopotamia to the east of the 1st Eden location) near
the mountains of gold and silver and iron and soft metal and
tin.
67.5 And I saw that valley, (The valley of Eden) in which there
was a great disturbance, and a heaving of the waters. (tsunami
effect) (The urantia Book rendition of the deluge) Here for
another description of the Mediterranean deluge.
67.6 And when all this happened, from the fiery molten metal,
(Volcanic) and the disturbance, (earthquake) which disturbed the
waters in that place, a smell of sulphur (volcanic) was produced,
and it was associated with those waters. (Water from the Atlantic,
from the west) And that valley (valley of Eden) of the Angels (1st
Eden), who led men astray, burns under the ground. (submerged)
67.7 And through the valleys of that same area, flow out rivers of
fire where those Angels will be punished, who led astray those on
the dry ground. (The Valley was once on dry ground inferring that
the area that is now submerged) Images of 1st Eden
Also notice its connection to judgement, thats what alerted me very
early in this work and now note the Pokotia message in full and its
parallel. I believe its all about now!!
and note the Akkadian references to the mountain and its related
prophecies.
But you know what, it all reflects back to the Bible and the many
things that influenced the Bible and other books related but not
included . It really all comes back to that information which has
been adopted and shared and reconstituted but in essence there is a
consistency in all the information and you can see its origins and
message. Not unlike the message today, in essence.
This is linked a 5500 year old mystery story, a boomerang coming
back fulfilling itself revealing and showing connection over 5500
years. Unbelievable. I feel its connected and parallel over a number
sources.
Akkadian/Mari/Manu message is short, but how decisive.
Following it further if I go to the Jesus prophecy extract out of
the Book of Adam and Eve
The Promise of Jesus of
Nazareth
3:1-2 God said to Adam, "I have ordained on this earth days and
years, and you and your descendants shall live and walk in them,
until the days and years are fulfilled; when I shall send
the Word that created you, and against which you have
transgressed, the Word that made you come out of the
garden, and that raised you when you were fallen. 2 Yes, the
Word that will again save you when the five and a half
days are fulfilled."
And if we look at five and a half days are fulfilled." and 1
day is a 1000 years in the time of the lord that would equal 5500
years which is now, from the Akkadian time, the time of the seal of
Mari. A look at what is said about this time and what is happening
in reality as we reflect and what the meaning we discover today,
through these connections and how it comes back to the bible.
Look at what Jesus says about the fulfilment of this mystery and we
are being drawn back to the garden, again Cyprus and has connections
to Bolivia with Akkadian/Mesopotamian prophecy fulfilling itself.
However looking further we see that Mari in Syria where this tablet
comes from was inhabited from the Ancient History
Tablet of King Zimri-Lim of Mari, ca. 1780 BC, Louvre MuseumMari
had been inhabited since the 5th millennium BCE, but the real
significance of the city was during the third and second
millennia BCE. The inhabitants of Mari were a Semitic people,
thought to be part of the same Eblaite and Akkadian migration.
Here is what I found in the Wikipedia on the word Manu.
Look up the word Manu in the Wikipedia
In Hindu mythology,
Manu is a title accorded the progenitor of humankind, first king
to rule this earth, who saves mankind from the universal flood. He
is honest which is why he is called "Satyavrata", or faster on to
the truth.
Extract
"The ten sons of Manu are known as Vena, Dhrishnu, Narishyan,
Nabhaga, Ikshvaku, Karusha, Saryati, the eighth, a daughter named
Ila, Prishadhru the ninth, and Nabhagarishta, the tenth. They
all betook themselves to the practices of Kshatriyas. Besides
these, Manu had fifty other sons on Earth. But we heard that
they all perished, quarrelling with one another."
Extract
The Matsya avatar of Vishnu is said to have appeared to King Manu
(whose original name was Satyavrata, the then King of Dravida),
while he washed his hands in a river.
The little fish asked the king to save it, and kept growing bigger
and bigger. It also informed the King of a huge flood which would
occur soon. The King builds a huge boat, which houses the fish and
his family and other seeds of animals to repopulate the earth.
This story is very similar to other deluge stories in ancient
Sumerian mythology which preceded the story of Noah's ark.
You have to copy and paste the link
Manu in the Wikipedia and its Hindu/Dravidian connection in Akkadian
Polynesian
Several different flood stories are recorded among the
Polynesians. None of them approach the scale of the Biblical
flood.
The people of Ra'iatea tell of two friends, Te-aho-aroa and Ro'o,
who went fishing and accidentally awoke the ocean god Ruahatu with
their fish hooks. Angered, he vowed to sink Ra'iatea below the
sea. Te-aho-aroa and Ro'o begged for forgiveness, and Ruahatu
warned them that they could escape only by bringing their familes
to the islet of Toamarama. These set sail, and during the
night, the island slipped under the ocean, only to rise again the
next morning. Nothing survived except for these families, who
erected sacred marae (temples) dedicated to the god Ruahatu.
Evidence of sea levels rising in the Pacific in the ancient past
through the legends of the Polynesians.
same thing Hawaii, evidence of rising sea levels
In Hawaii, a human couple, Nu'u and Lili-noe, survived a flood on
top of Mauna Kea on the Big Island. Nu'u made sacrifices to the
moon, to whom he mistakenly attributed his safety. Kāne, the
creator god, descended to earth on a rainbow, explained Nu'u's
mistake, and accepted his sacrifice.[4]
Hi Personally, I'm finding
allot of connections that have consistency in the general message
and the events that are foretold. I'm finding messages from across
the other side of the world that lead back to the location, in
discovery and interpretations of the message attached of artifacts.
Nothing against anyone in belief put I truly feel there is a
standard required to what is to come and is consistent with the
information that I'm finding.
Just don't disregard the essence of the message. That's all, its a
personal choice thing. But blow it away completely in reaction.
That's all I'm saying, it could be mistake.
I know Elmer might be a bit punchy and I know my message is not a
nice one for many. But I do find consistency in the message in all
the scripts and additional information and links that I've left
everywhere which does verify a strong unity in what is to come and
it does have consequences. The worst thing to do is disbelief and no
faith and rejection.
Personally, about witches and all that, I wont get into that, just
connect with God in your own way, research the research, the
message, have faith, see God as a friend from within you not as
something out there, I'm sure he has been leading without you
knowing. Cleanse yourself with a sincere prayer of any wrong doing
towards others. You know those things. If you feel compelled to go
to a church. do so.
There is a good message for ones with faith, and to be connected
with the message is not hard, there is no obstacles, just reflection
and sincere personal action in the way of response.
You know some 2 weeks ago, I think, I proclaimed a forty day test
and then it will happen, well I could be jumping the gun on that
one. But you know, if the conditions are right and the right
connections are being made through the cracking of the mysteries
through the right path. It could happen, just like that. A person
could just have the right keys in knowledge and faith that could
unlock the door, unlock the mystery. Like in the movies, a mystery
movie. But it could happen in real life.
Like Jesus went through a 40 day test in the Wilderness and the
Israelites through the 40 day test before they entered the promised
land. So with mankind, perhaps a 40 day test. Anyway I thought it
had consistency and I had a strong feeling about it.
Note the time markers as expressed in the bible. Like the 2 tower
time markers found in 2 sections Isaiah that combined, all point to
the man of terror in Afghanistan. Then the sevenfold reflection
straight after associated with the breach. The discovery of Cyprus
and then all the discovery in the Dead Sea Scrolls and Ezra about
the test, 40 day period where a Testamony will be written and a test
associated and a coming. Its everywhere.
What about Cyprus and all the evidence in script that points to it,
I find it overwhelming and harmonised. Being a witness is a real
testimony in itself all beforehand realizing after the action
written in scripture. That's my Testamony.
I'm so happy that I found the UB and how it complimented my research
in all the scripts and made me really love the old testament and all
the mysteries in it and the new testament. For me, today. I cant
wait to research the books. That's how compelling it is. Not to
mention all the other discoveries.
The best thing what I say will be tested. If nothing happens at all,
I was wrong and no doubt cope criticism, natural for man. If I'm
right well then, I'm right and before we realize that we will be in
a different reality, no time to say good bye.
It will be something like that. When that happens there will be a
great realisation, then the disappointment that will burn in there
souls and that will be like a hell in itself in amidst earth
changes.
I believe that is the case. I gave a time limit in accordance to the
scriptures and or a discovery on the hill. That is the test for me
and what I say.
see what happens. Just don't throw it away completely.
With Elmer you have to understand his background and the his
teachings in his environment, history and variant of the body of
Christ. I think he may be Mormon, I'm not sure. Where as myself I
have had experience of most Christian churches and a couple of Bible
colleges but i work alone and not influenced by anything except what
I read and know.
But note even from different and perhaps opposite ends but we do
still harmonized on the general end time message. I find that
interesting.
However if there is anything I uncover that is for the benefit of
the greater body. No worries go for it!! take , eat it, use it. If
there is truth in it.
Also I believe there is a space
connection unity going on here. As a witness in this journey of discovery. There
is much unity going on and I believe its from the Trinity of Paradise. I know
that sounds a little weird. But there is space time phenomena involved in all
these discoveries. I believe of a high level and is connected with lets the
Kingdom of Heaven.
Its a pretty serious thing gong on here. I'm so sure of it. There is witness to
it. Elmer says he feels something in the air. What is that he is feeling?
What is that feeling the effect of? A mutual witness in the scriptures and in
discovery? There owns investigations? You know if a major body sees this and is
sincere that's all its takes for the message to grow like soothing rain on a hot
day.
If the evidence is coming up well and it seems to be following a path of truth
and if it has witness or more than two, then there will be others. What the
message . Glad tidings towards others, the Jesus message.
I know there will others that will not like what is said. All I say is just
consider half-heartedness belief, that's ok.
Just a little open, even research all the matter about it.
It could be a life boat, really could be at this time, in this timeline.
I don't God is going to do a major campaign on this as he always knows the
outcome, How little, how big, when, how much time makes no difference.
Unfortunately, as prophesied there will be few at all that will proclaim this. A
self defeating prophecy in Ezra and Dead Seas scrolls about this test. That's
the great disappointment, either way there will be no good result for the
majority. Either in scorn from the majority if nothing happens with
disappointment or the majority in disappointment because they never listened and
there is no turning back.
Even with Eden on all papers and TV even in a documentary and the pathways left
behind in the research. The response is miserable from a sevenfold view.
People still do nothing about it. What's the point you might as well get it over
and done with and move on.
No point waiting around, for what? man wont do nothing about this in
proclamation or doing something, Oh unless there's bucks in it.
I somehow feel we are in probation time and when its done, its done and then III
personally present my report on CD. Bloody miserable, man failed to click on.
When he did, he did nothing. stalled in general. Its about a 10% percenter.
Thanks for the reply. I really enjoyed the post and the information.
I learnt allot in the link. I don't understand witchcraft or Wicca
and its history. I know my work is done alone but I do share it
straight away, so it can studied and scrutinized to make sure I'm on
the right track.
I sometimes have wondered many things with what I write and what I
find. That's why I invite Elmer, yourself, Robert and others to
check over things, make sure I'm not misleading. That is the very
last I want to do. I don't isolate myself from the world casting
spells that's for sure I just work in faith. Although I do get angry
at terrorism but I use the scripts to see if I can identify it and
where it will lead, which is no where. But in by doing this I find
other relevant information.
Quite the opposite, I give my all to the world in regards to the
research because I feel the Father wants me to do that, open up the
heart case, laying it up on the throne, sipping the hot coal from
the throne.
With this kind of information it has to be released to mankind and
not held back for whatever reason. All I want to do is a good job
for The Father in heaven and within us. Like a Father/Son
relationship and the thrill of discovery and sharing the thrill of
it. Venturing into the realms of truth and understanding where no
man has gone. The exploration in the most wholesome sense. The
inspiration of discovery and where it leads to. Like a faith son on
the faith ship into unchartered waters to the garden of infinite
joy.
Its this attitude that heaven loves and really gets inspired and
begins to move and show themselves in support through the scripts
and in physical action.
These are things that motivate me, along the path in faith. In the
path of discovery I'm led across things and recognise a truth
embedded, record it then release it.
Also I weigh heavily in scripture, I use the word and the words of
the ancients to verify the things that I'm finding and reflect back
to the realities that have occurred. The whole journey is like this.
I call it the beforehand phenomena, Its recorded and I recognise it
when I read it, looking back. That's a mystery, but when its
recognised the thrill of discovery and the oneness in the experience
is heavenly.
You know, I think heaven really gets inspired out of that. The
universal family involved directly in the Saga know about it as it
occurs and just warms up. The love connection in that is truly
amazing. That's is one very important aspect in the relationship of
man and God, a continual source of inspiration in finding truth,
everyday.
I suppose the greatest inspiration is the whole picture that is
forming through a discovery, the harmonisation of word and discovery
in physical not to mention the message behind it. Looking from every
aspect all the prophets outside/inside the bible had something to
say about the place.
Personally, I think what we are seeing in Israel is the process that
will lead to change. Somehow looking at all the circumstances and
the discovery at this time and the short range prophecies
fulfilling. It certainly looks intriguing, looking at all the
players getting involved falling heavier into the scenario, walking
blindly into it or tempting the scenario? You know? Even I have to
watch myself and that's why I rely on you guys.
But I do have faith and trust in the Lord for his guidance. I am
inspired with all the characters involved from my research. The
Father, Jesus, Ancient of Days, the Most Highs, the Melchizedek and
all the angels involved. I proclaimed this as an operation in faith
years ago and gave it identity and I look back at the path of
discovery and find it so unique and amazing.
Its an inspiration and I'm certainly not casting spells but leaving
myself open for them. But the thing is, I have no fear of that
because of what I know in my relationship the Father. God. Who else
is there?
Looking at the path of discovery there is no fear, because in him,
there is light as expressed by Jesus, a message that will lead to a
good ending for those with faith, the size of a mustard seed, that's
fine. They even said this in Bolivia 5500 years ago. Saying that a
demonstration will occur, the power of deity confirming our
conversation today, at this time.
1Adam and Eve.
The Promise of Jesus of
Nazareth
3:1-2 God said to Adam, "I have ordained on this earth days and
years, and you and your descendants shall live and walk in them,
until the days and years are fulfilled; when I shall
send the Word that created you, and against which you have
transgressed, the Word that made you come out of the garden,
and that raised you when you were fallen. 2 Yes, the
Word that will again save you when the five and a half days
are fulfilled."
5 .5 days is that 5500 years like the message from Bolivia created
around 5500 years ago and found 5500 years later relevant for today?
However looking at it late in the verse in this statement "I have
ordained on this earth days and years" God does relate to Days and
years so 5500 years must be close to right.
I reckon 5.5 days of 5500 years are pretty well fulfilled today,
there is a duality in the above verse,
1 One of Jesus being a
man who died on the cross and the second component attached to the
original Garden?
2 Jesus bringing us back to the Garden through his word.
exactly the case.
Thanks again Ishtar for your links, I always learn allot from them
and you do encourage me.
I'm just researching and posting and expressing myself. I've toned
down my aggressiveness as best as I can, in general. I initially
reacted to cat only being human, not a robot.
Also I know abs through email, he is a fellow researcher in the
Urantia truth, that's ok. Nothing wrong with that, he expresses
himself like we all do. He seems like a nice bloke. I invited him to
check out the research when I started posting the research. He
encouraged me to look into it further, like any good researcher
would, to leave no stone unturned.
I proceeded spending countless ours, posting for the benefit and
then you get provocations from cat.
Course I'm going to get all pissed off and react.
Anyway I wont pursue Cat. III behave myself with him, if he wants to
play games and waste time no worries, III carry one and be polite to
him.
Regarding his posts, I'm not going to search for his posts. How
about a bit on the run stuff, today's discoveries not yesterdays
from 3 years, if at all.
Its a different climate now new discoveries have been made, new
discoveries in literature have been discovered now. Lets see how the
hypothesis of 3 years fits today in light of this continual process.
Thanks for reviewing the information. I assume you have, hopefully. I started
this years ago to see if I could find a pathway in the bible and The BC books
that priests studied before Christ to the location of Cyprus for the Christian
faith.
I believe there is a definite pathway to Eden in the Bible with a message. Feel
free to use any scripture and interpretation that helps you formulate a positive
construct for your group for study and research. No worries its for the body.
I feel we are in a testing period and should be prepared within ourselves and be
aware of the signs and discoveries as they occur. Your one of the few Christians
that I know that has shown support for my posts and I appreciate it.
I feel things and realities are just travelling along and forming and the time
is coming somewhere, sometime. I think the best thing to do is really adhere to
the scriptures even more concisely that will be the life raft for the planet.
I'm sure of that.
The location is just sitting there and there is preparation for discovery and
the Father is very much involved in the events, the climax of spiritual forces
are building all around, as you can see. I have no idea if there is a
postponment. I just have faith that the Lord will move his hand to lay a path so
that the expedition goes to plan in quest for Atlantis and Eden. Even in amidst
war, all abound and the light of truth in the sea peace will shine forth as the
representatives of the universe descend upon this planet and deal with this
terrible state of stress and bring peace and universal government, the Paradise
Government to Earth with physical representatives.
Notice Belteshazzar, master of the magicians, is Daniel and is head
magician
17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers,
watchers is important,
23 And whereas the king saw a watcher and an holy one coming down from heaven,
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Ishtar, I found the above piece real
interesting, I note the decree from the watcher, like the power of deity decree
from Bolivia. From the same people who made the Seal of Mari next to the
location and the map of it.
The in the following the appearance and result of the decree. It seems to have
the same parallels of the today, a decree, a discovery, a proclamation and a
result of the same scenario as in Daniel.
How interesting is that and Daniel foresaw this.
What about this, Cyrus the shepherd of the Lord, a Persian helps in the
rebuilding of the second temple, now look at the leader of the 2nd expedition of
Cyprus , look at his linage and look at what he has opened up in, what I believe
in reestablishment of Zion, the Lords original place, temple, the foundation,
the original cornerstone. Also look at the name Cyrus like Cyprus.
The the confusing thing look at the politics.
Also if Akkadians where in charge of Mesopotamia and the king, who had a thirst
for knowledge it would make sense that he send out ships in search for truth
from Sumeria or inland to Japan and then across the Pacific.
They eventually discovered Bolivia/Peru and admixed with the Inca of whom the
new arrivals left there religions and knowledge which they impressed upon the
natives through race and culture. In addition they left a behind prophecy in
faith that would one day synchronise with world events and give further
assurance to the hypothesis of the end times. Its a voice from the past and it
resonates today.
Posted:
Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:41 am Post subject: Atlantis
Yes I am amazed by the pictures,
particulary the curved canal looking features at the base of the Acropolis
Hill. It seems that the Acropolis Hill was shaped in the same way. Curved
and circular. Looks very much manmade. I am amazed by the springs on top of
the Hill running down through the canals, I found in a recent discovery that
the Seal of Mari found in the Syrian museum. I feel a depction of the
location. Note the 2 springs on top of the Hill, similar to the courtyard in
Vatcian. 2 fountains, note the 7 concentric circles that surround the
springs. If you look at the top of the hill of Cyprus you can see the two
coplanar circular canals.
Also note the 12 gates below which allowed access to the location. Or could
it be the city surrounding the Hill.
This seal Akkaddian and originates from the 3500BC mark, 5500 years ago and
originates next to the location and is related to Ugarit scripts.
I think this is a incredible find.
regards
sevens
Hey Ideopraxist.
I reckon forget about looking for evidence for the Israelites in
Egyptian records, I reckon if there was a full interpretation of the
Tablets of Elba. I reckon you would find a fairly comprehensive
record of the Abram times and all the characters involved.
Dates does vary so III go the UB dates of in around 1970-1900 BC for
Abraham.
I sense that there is a huge record of there of the whole scenario
of around that time.
I must say the Semites had large empire going on before Abraham
Yeah thank God for puters, for sure, makes life and research so much
better.
Gee I don't why they are all in dispute today they are all more or
less the same family and look at em, fighting cannot get there act
together!
Its a useless affair religion and politics going no where fast.
Here is read of Melchezidek which includes Abraham and could be used
with the Elba tablets and the Bible to pinpoint truth with greater
accuracy.
It was 1,973 years
before the birth of Jesus that Machiventa was bestowed upon the
human races of Urantia. His coming was unspectacular; his
materialization was not witnessed by human eyes. He was first
observed by mortal man on that eventful day when he entered the
tent of Amdon, a Chaldean herder of Sumerian extraction. And the
proclamation of his mission was embodied in the simple statement
which he made to this shepherd, "I am Melchizedek, priest of El
Elyon, the Most High, the one and only God."
I thought the date could be used to back engineer. I noticed many
dates given do vary from one researcher to another. I figure the UB,
an accurate book. I thought I would work on this date given in the
above.
Could be a good study. I get the feeling that the dates given in our
history are out to a degree. You knows maybe the date above might
give us a more accurate timeline on our history with respect to the
area and its politics.
Also, from what I heard the 2nd
Expedition is still on track, They wont be able to do as as they want but its on
track, not sure on the dates but hopefully next month sometime. Note this could
change because of this disastrous and waste of time war in Israel. Over religion
and power the usual rubbish.
I wish they stop fighting and get there act together particularly the ones who
perpetuate this nonsense, whoever it is.
Anyway that's not going stop God in this adventure and neither the project. I
just have faith in that and I will believe it and it will happen as ordained by
the Kingdom of Heaven. Nothing will stop heaven at this time. Any attempt from
an evil point of view will be thwarted instantly.
Remembering that this truth is in background of all this folly and it has teeth,
Big Teeth. These leaders should take note particularly the religious controlled
types in power. But they are to blind to see by there own religious lusts
intermingled with power and doctrine gone crazy.
This is the test for them, I tell you what, what a failure at the end of the
day, like going back in the dark ages and especially in light of all this
beautiful truth realising itself through discovery and exploration. God/Man
working together for peace and prosperity for all not the other rubbish.
A far better and peaceful fence to be sitting on. There will be no prizes or
nothing for those who perpetuate terror. Absolutely nothing!!!! Total waste of
human resources for such folly.
Im looking at similarities of the Sumerian writing and symbols in Sumeria to see
if I can find similarities as to the Sumerian evidence found in Bolivia.
Here is a link to tablet that has the same rectangular features as in the bowl.
Its a direct match and clears up the Sth America mystery relating to the
transfer of Mesopotamian knowledge to the land of the Inca and to the
surrounding tribes in the general area.
Mesopotamia is the source knowledge, through the Andites that spread to the
Inca.
Note the star symbol on this Sumerian Black seal, I know there are more symbols
like this around.
In my mind there is no question that the Sumerian/Akaddian explorers reached the
Land of the Inca and relayed there knowledge which perpetuated throughout the
region in most main cultures over time.
They estimate the time of contact around 5,500 years ago.
That's pretty good to me. Hard to refute this evidence.
What about that piece about Jesus, he supports Jihad.
How is that possible, he admonished us to love neighbours, to love
and forgive. How is logically possible that Jesus would support
Jihad.
I think personally there is more truth amongst us that reveals
greater accuracy and a better message I just read.
I do find it interesting how there talking about change, about
something rising up. On a spiritual level there also talking about
something. Well I something is going to happen in the short I would
suggest my current thought hypothesis would offer more a life than
that Jihad.
As far as I'm concerned they are all in prophecy and identified in
Isaiah as the scribe who counts the towers and made them fall. In
Enoch 99:6 they are the ones who seek terror and find ways to do it
of which no one will help.
Its interesting while they have been forming there own hypothesis
about the end we have to amongst ourselves in discovering the truth
behind all this. I would think what we have discovering promotes the
message of peace is far better way to go and to explore that does
not take free will away. I believe the scriptures in our
explorations and discoveries in love is truly blessed with
information that will last and will eventually over come terror.
Look at the contrast and what they say. I personally think they are
playing out prophecy at this time. Surrounding Israel step by step.
Just in light of our discussions Eden is in the background and even
in the short time we can look back and already see events playing
out as read in the scriptures.
I have faith in the current path and the discoveries, our
discoveries. I believe its all leading somewhere good. The terror we
read is the kinds of things that will be dealt with as read. The
potency in our discoveries are real as compared to the other
message. We read the mysteries, discover and explore them, then
release them for scrutiny and research, its honest, open. I think
that's a truth in itself.
It a ridiculous situation and just an example of living in the past
without vision of the future drawn from the future. The saga
continues and the players seem to be more real as we observe and
look at things. Im sure these events are in the timeline as we have
been discovering and exploring. Just think, Eden in the background
and the message it promotes and you have the sons in quarrel at its
doorstep. Gee, come on guys.
You know in the spiritual you have the Trinity of Paradise present
and they observe this and they are from the highest levels and the
whole universe on every level witnessing this event and look at man.
Promoting wars of hatred, seen from the universe prospective this is
filth and will be cleaned out and the meek shall inherit the earth.
The people promoting the terror wilfully are blind to this, they
sense a second coming or change but they don't recognise or reflect
upon the actions in accordance to the 10 commandments. While they
pull the stick our of there brothers eye, they have log in there
own.
We know were not perfect but least we are trying to discover the
honest truth with an honest heart in peace and I know that will be
blessed and is blessed.
All the best everyone. Know there is some good light at the end of
the tunnel.
Because the bible and all the other scripts tells us so!
sevens
I was thinking I discovered last night there are 10 days to go on the test of
man when I proclaimed it. Well... see what happens, you never know!!! Lets see
how the reality shapes in this time as mystery unfolds. Lets have faith in the
scripts to combat this terror promotion. If its not in 10 days it could be
related to what's on the Acropolis Hill as what I've seen in the scripts notably
in Daniel and in Revelation. The stone cut out of the mountain and the measuring
of the temple, the face of his Testamony.
In regards to what they discover depends on what equipment they use. From what I
understand they'll use a sub bottom profiler that will penetrate the mud. I'm
not sure whether a R.O.V will be available because of war.
But anyway see what happens its all in our hands and in the Fathers hands. With
what I write and research is in faith, I hope its right.
all the best and lets see what the path unfolds as we walk this mystery and in
real life.
sevens
notice that the following
tablet on the top is similiar to the Mari Seal with the 2 springs on
the Acropolis Mount or the holy mountain. Look at the top of this
tablet.
Looking at it again its the 12 gates and the springs on top of the
Hill and the wall. However even though it could be seen stars but it
seems to fit the Mari seal
I know it can look like the 2 stars and an upside down crescent
moon. But if you looked at it from a mountain point of view. It
could look like 2 springs either side of the central ring where the
tree of life stood on top of the Acropolis Hill. 3 coplanar rings on
the hill?
Know the 12 gates and walled paths across the isthmus had 12 grand
divisions between the paths filled with all manner of wild beasts as
a part of the defense system of Eden. So that's 24 gates in total 12
outer gates and 12 inner gates, 12 pathways between them. If you
look at Russian bathymetric data you can see resemblance of the gate
system as they may have been built on a ridge system. then the 12
divisions on the flat piece and then onto next ridge with the inner
system of gates.
In the tablet below those rectangular shapes seem to symbolize the
walled pathways of the gates and the gate system. The wild beats and
serpents and scorpions in the middle section between the gates
appear to symbolize the 12 grand divisions.
For anyone interested here is the Urantia account of the 12 gates
Link
A zoological garden was created by building a smaller wall just
outside the main wall; the intervening space, occupied by
all manner of wild beasts, served as an additional defense
against hostile attacks. This menagerie was organized in twelve
grand divisions, and walled paths led between these groups to the
twelve gates of the Garden, the river and its adjacent
pastures occupying the central area.
So as you can read and see in the tablet above are the same thing as
with the Mari Seal. There is a commonality in type and in design,
both stones have the same representation and do have connections
with the rectangular shapes of the Sumerian bowl found in Bolivia.
Also Lake Titicaca was built in type to the location of Cyprus as
there now seems to be a link to Mesopotamia, it would make sense
that myth and religious knowledge would transmit and its message
today.
It kind of makes sense when there is some scripts that descibes the
place.
Heres some Ugarit scripts that describes the location. Note the
references to
s springs, two rivers, the deep, enthroned, palace, channels, deep,
the kinf, father of years, like in Book of the Dead. All remninscent
of the land of the location.
KYU is Ugarit script
The reference to "deep calling to deep" is based in the Canaanite
notion that the cosmic mountain where El makes his abode joins the
heavenly "Deep" (cf. Genesis 1:6) with the subterranean "deep"
contained within the mountain (cf. Job 28:9-11, 38:16-17). In the
Ugaritic Baal Epic, we read of the god Kothar heading "toward El
at the springs of the Double-Rivers, amidst the channels of the
Double-Deeps. He comes to the mountain of El and enters the tent
of the King, the Father of Years" (KTU 1.2 III 4-5). Similarly, in
another myth El's mountain palace is said to lie "at the springs
of the Two Rivers, at the meeting place of the Double-Deeps (mbk
nhrm b'dt thmtm, KTU 1.100 R 1-4). In the OT, we also read how
Yahweh "builds his palace on the waters above" and "sits enthroned
on the Flood" (Psalm 29:10; 104:2-3), and Ezekiel 28:2 has the
Phoenician king declare: "I am El ('l), in the dwelling of the
gods ('lhym); I dwell in the mid
and then you the Cannanite thoughts of the same place. Note the
words., Zion, holy hill, ancients gates (there in writing), holy
place, mountain, city of God, Gehenna, cosmic mountain, associated
with disaster.
Thus in Psalm 2:6-8,
Yahweh calls Zion "my holy hill," in Psalm 24:1-8 "Yahweh the
warrior" enters through the "ancient gates" of his "holy place" in
the "mountain of Yahweh", and in Psalm 46:4, the "city of God" is
called "the holy place where the Most High dwells." Zion appears
to be the mountain described in 1 Enoch 26, from which a deep
valley descends -- the "accursed valley" where the souls of the
wicked are tormented (i.e. Gehenna) according to 1 Enoch 27.
According to Isaiah 14:12-15, Sheol lies at the base of the cosmic
mountain, and it is only natural for the deep valley below it to
be associated with the underworld.
In Ugarit script again, this place seems tio have a message that is
associated with the deluge, but also is a message of the future and
the purpose of this place in regards to the end of the rebellion,
which I feel is relevant for todays message.
"As the Abysses boil
above the foundations of the waters, their towering waves and
billows shall rage with the voice of their roaring; and as they
rage, Sheol and Abaddon shall open and all the flying arrows of
the Pit shall send out their voice to the Abyss. (the reflection
of the deluge used in the reflection of the future.)
And the gates of Sheol shall open on all the works of vanity and
the doors of the Pit shall close on the conceivers of
wickedness..... The torrents of Belial shall break into Abaddon,
and the deeps of the Abyss shall groan amid the roar of the
heaving mud....
(A voice comes from this place, it makes itslef obvious, it cries
from the deep. I think its a message for today. I feel it has to
do with this terror and wilfull destruction.)
The heavenly hosts shall cry out and the world's foundations shall
swagger and sway....The deeps resound to my groaning and my soul
has journeyed to the gates of death. (1QH 11:16-19, 32-35)
(There you go Heaven reacts and the perpetrators are dealt with.)
From Ugarit scripts, unbelievable not to mention the message from
Bolivia.
So all the stones seem to have a message, they seem to be talking
some how through its art and its truth.
Also I've seen 3 circles in a co planar fashion in other seals, bit I lost track
of them. I think they are significant and further supports the idea, also I
think the 3 circles resembles not only the canals on the Acropolis Hill but the
Paradise Trinity in a cosmic sense.
Just follow the arrows it a little messy.
Is this what they mean by the sacred stones, a map to the land of the Gods
A four winged angels, like the one
described in Ezekiel, actually there Seraphims. Can be a look into the Nephilim
or the Annanuki in this stone, the watchers!!
Its interesting all the realities going on now in the world is very much apart
of the spiritual reality! Spiritual forces in the kingdoms of men. I thank God
for Jesus and his great message.
Here is a link to Dilmun in Bahrain close to the original home of the Nephilim
in physical many thousands of years ago, before our known recognised history.
Further travels of the Andites that leads to figure from the
past waving hello to us
A four winged angels, like
the one described in Ezekiel, actually there Seraphims. Can be a
look into the Nephilim or the Annanuki in this stone, the watchers!!
Its interesting all the realities going on now in the world is very
much apart of the spiritual reality! Spiritual forces in the
kingdoms of men. I thank God for Jesus and his great message.
Now the final step in
the Eye journey and a message from the past, greeting us in working
out this mystery. All the way from Peru , the Nazca lines. All
seen beforehand, from the lost generation of the Andites in Peru. Say
hi!
What a sense of Humor the early Sumerian/Inca had.
I would take that as a confirmation of the journey from
Mesopotamia to Peru with a between 5000 -10,000 year or more year message and wave for today
for today's generation in the transition and change of knowledge.
Here is a link to Dilmun in Bahrain close to the original home of
the Nephilim in physical many thousands of years ago, before our
known recognized history.
Also I've seen 3 circles in a co planar fashion in other seals, bit I lost track
of them. I think they are significant and further supports the idea, also I
think the 3 circles resembles not only the canals on the Acropolis Hill but the
Paradise Trinity in a cosmic sense.
Just follow the arrows it a little messy.
Is this what they mean by the sacred stones, a map to the land of the Gods
Here is seven concentric circle seal, the same representation as in The Mari
Seal which in my mind depicts the springs on top of the Acropolis Hill. To me it
seems like a connection symbolism, part of the mysteries of mysteries,
time/space unification in meaning for me.
Source Link
Just scroll down and look at the images and it relation to Sumerian
commonalities.
Also the whale image in my mind is the isle of the Gods of Cyprus another map.
Note the isthmus and the river outline in the middle running out of the
location.
And the island jutting out of coastal outline.
Again in the Hummingbird image in the link above To me it looks an outline of an
island connected to the mainland by an isthmus, like in the location?
This must be the confirmation surely,
here another Olmec version.
Another Version of the Tree of Life
The Eye of Creation and the Snake=Human DNA
To me it look like another depiction of the isle of the Gods with the tree of
life present, the isle is like a tree but looking at it from an lisand point of
view it could look like the location connected by an isthmus with two gates
running across the isthmus as you can see. And you can see the 3 co-planar
circles at the base of the tree.
Tells the same story and all the characters are in the saga.
Note the tree of life perpetuation from the Americas
I went to the pic and went to the link and briefed through it, amazed. All the
same features, I read about the 7 cities, surrounded by 7 hills...incredible.
The whole story seems like the Atlantis story for sure.
The one thing that will determine much would be the result of core samples in
around the location of Cyprus. I say around 34,000 years ago, the deluge others
say 14,000 years or less. Unfortunately I dont think they will be doing core
samples in this next expedition because of the war. So the debate will rage on
for a while yet.
Im thinking in my heart that the legend migrated up there through the family way
in the past by a truth seeker within the family or the family are actual
descendants and survivors of the Atlanteans and migrated and brought the legend
with them.
The Adamite's did penetrate Europe after the deluge. I enjoyed the UB parallels,
like to Vaner has links to Van, Lake Van Turkey, where Van custodian of the tree
lived 150,000 years ago to 38,0000. Van built a civilisation, the forerunners of
the Urartians. Van built the Garden of Eden/Atlantis Cyprus and transplanted the
tree of life on the location. Adam and Eve materialised and ate of the tree for
100 years and were expelled.
Note the Sevens and the deluge.
Note that on the location the Acropolis Hill is surrounded by seven hills.
To me it describes the location and everything. However its the core samples
that will tell the story.
All the best
thanks sevens
Hi Im on the tablet thing.
Here is a link to the Tablets of Elba, dates vary from 2400BC to 3500BC.
somewhere I say the record of Abraham 1970BC
All the information has links to the seal of Mari in my view.
Al have aspects of patriarchs and is thought to have information of the
Melchizedeks and information on Abraham and Sodom and Gommorah.
I reckon forget about looking for evidence for the Israelites in
Egyptian records, I reckon if there was a full interpretation of the
Tablets of Elba. I reckon you would find a fairly comprehensive
record of the Abram times and all the characters involved.
Dates does vary so III go the UB dates of in around 1970-1870 BC for
Abraham.
I sense that there is a huge record of there of the whole scenario
of around that time.
I must say the Semites had large empire going on before Abraham
Yeah thank God for puters, for sure, makes life and research so much
better.
Gee I don't why they are all in dispute today they are all more or
less the same family and look at em, fighting cannot get there act
together!
Its a useless affair religion and politics going no where fast.
Here is read of Melchezidek which includes Abraham and could be used
with the Elba tablets and the Bible to pinpoint truth with greater
accuracy.
It was 1,973 years
before the birth of Jesus that Machiventa was bestowed upon the
human races of Urantia. His coming was unspectacular; his
materialization was not witnessed by human eyes. He was first
observed by mortal man on that eventful day when he entered the
tent of Amdon, a Chaldean herder of Sumerian extraction. And the
proclamation of his mission was embodied in the simple statement
which he made to this shepherd, "I am Melchizedek, priest of El
Elyon, the Most High, the one and only God."
I thought the date could be used to back engineer. I noticed many
dates given do vary from one researcher to another. I figure the UB,
an accurate book. I thought I would work on this date given in the
above.
Could be a good study. I get the feeling that the dates given in our
history are out to a degree. You knows maybe the date above might
give us a more accurate timeline on our history with respect to the
area and its politics.
Also, from what I heard the 2nd
Expedition is still on track, They wont be able to do as as they want but its on
track, not sure on the dates but hopefully next month sometime. Note this could
change because of this disastrous and waste of time war in Israel. Over religion
and power the usual rubbish.
I wish they stop fighting and get there act together particularly the ones who
perpetuate this nonsense, whoever it is.
Anyway that's not going stop God in this adventure and neither the project. I
just have faith in that and I will believe it and it will happen. Nothing will
stop heaven at this time. No one is going to stop the quest for truth, beauty
and goodness. No way!
Remembering that this truth is in background of all this folly and it has teeth,
Big Teeth. These leaders should take note particularly the religious controlled
types in power. But they are to blind to see by there own religious lusts
intermingled with power and doctrine gone crazy.
This is the test for them, I tell you what, what a failure at the end of the
day, like going back in the dark ages and especially in light of all this
beautiful truth realising itself through discovery and exploration. God/Man
working together for peace and prosperity for all not the other rubbish.
A far better and peaceful fence to be sitting on. There will be no prizes for
those who perpetuate conflict. Total waste of human resources for such folly.
I notice that the following
tablet on the top is similiar to the Mari Seal with the 2 springs on
the Acropolis Mount or the holy mountain. Look at the top of this
tablet.
Looking at it again its the 12 gates and the springs on top of the
Hill and the wall. However even though it could be seen stars but it
seems to fit the Mari seal
I know it can look like the 2 stars and an upside down crescent
moon. But if you looked at it from a mountain point of view. It
could look like 2 springs either side of the central ring where the
tree of life stood on top of the Acropolis Hill. 3 coplanar rings on
the hill?
Know the 12 gates and walled paths across the isthmus had 12 grand
divisions btween the paths filled with all manner of wild beasts as
a part of the defense system of Eden. So that's 24 gates in total 12
outer gates and 12 inner gates, 12 pathways between them. If you
look at Russian bathymetric data you can see resemblance of the gate
system as they may have been built on a ridge system. then the 12
divisions on the flat piece and then onto next ridge with the inner
system of gates.
In the tablet below those rectangular shapes seem to symbolize the
walled pathways of the gates and the gate system. The wild beats and
serpents and scorpions in the middle section between the gates
appear to symbolize the 12 grand divisions.
For anyone interested here is the Urantia account of the 12 gates
Link
A zoological garden was created by building a smaller wall just
outside the main wall; the intervening space, occupied by
all manner of wild beasts, served as an additional defense
against hostile attacks. This menagerie was organized in twelve
grand divisions, and walled paths led between these groups to the
twelve gates of the Garden, the river and its adjacent
pastures occupying the central area.
So as you can read and see in the tablet above are the same thing as
with the Mari Seal. There is a commonality in type and in design,
both stones have the same representation and do have connections
with the rectangular shapes of the Sumerian bowl found in Bolivia.
Also Lake Titicaca was built in type to the location of Cyprus as
there now seems to be a link to Mesopotamia, it would make sense
that myth and religious knowledge would transmit and its message
today.
It kind of makes sense when there is some scripts that descibes the
place.
Heres some Ugarit scripts that describes the location. Note the
references to
2 springs, two rivers, the deep, enthroned, palace, channels, deep,
the king, father of years, like in Book of the Dead. All reminscent
of the land of the location.
KYU is Ugarit script
The reference to "deep calling to deep" is based in the Canaanite
notion that the cosmic mountain where El makes his abode joins the
heavenly "Deep" (cf. Genesis 1:6) with the subterranean "deep"
contained within the mountain (cf. Job 28:9-11, 38:16-17). In the
Ugaritic Baal Epic, we read of the god Kothar heading "toward El
at the springs of the Double-Rivers, amidst the channels of the
Double-Deeps. He comes to the mountain of El and enters the tent
of the King, the Father of Years" (KTU 1.2 III 4-5). Similarly, in
another myth El's mountain palace is said to lie "at the springs
of the Two Rivers, at the meeting place of the Double-Deeps (mbk
nhrm b'dt thmtm, KTU 1.100 R 1-4). In the OT, we also read how
Yahweh "builds his palace on the waters above" and "sits enthroned
on the Flood" (Psalm 29:10; 104:2-3), and Ezekiel 28:2 has the
Phoenician king declare: "I am El ('l), in the dwelling of the
gods ('lhym); I dwell in the mid
and then you the Cannanite thoughts of the same place. Note the
words., Zion, holy hill, ancients gates (there in writing), holy
place, mountain, city of God, Gehenna, cosmic mountain, associated
with disaster.
Thus in Psalm 2:6-8,
Yahweh calls Zion "my holy hill," in Psalm 24:1-8 "Yahweh the
warrior" enters through the "ancient gates" of his "holy place" in
the "mountain of Yahweh", and in Psalm 46:4, the "city of God" is
called "the holy place where the Most High dwells." Zion appears
to be the mountain described in 1 Enoch 26, from which a deep
valley descends -- the "accursed valley" where the souls of the
wicked are tormented (i.e. Gehenna) according to 1 Enoch 27.
According to Isaiah 14:12-15, Sheol lies at the base of the cosmic
mountain, and it is only natural for the deep valley below it to
be associated with the underworld.
In Ugarit script again, this place seems to have a similar message
that is associated with the deluge, but also is a message of the
future and the purpose of this place in regards to the end of the
rebellion, which I feel is relevant for today's message.
"As the Abysses boil
above the foundations of the waters, their towering waves and
billows shall rage with the voice of their roaring; and as they
rage, Sheol and Abaddon shall open and all the flying arrows of
the Pit shall send out their voice to the Abyss.
(the reflection of the deluge used in the reflection of the future
of potential earth changes.)
And the gates of Sheol shall open on all the works of vanity and
the doors of the Pit shall close on the conceivers of
wickedness..... The torrents of Belial shall break into Abaddon,
and the deeps of the Abyss shall groan amid the roar of the
heaving mud....
(A voice comes from this place, it makes itself obvious, it cries
from the deep. I think its a message for today. I feel it has to
do with this terror and wilfull destruction.)
The heavenly hosts shall cry out and the world's foundations shall
swagger and sway....The deeps resound to my groaning and my soul
has journeyed to the gates of death. (1QH 11:16-19, 32-35)
(There you go Heaven reacts and the perpetrators are dealt with
and implies earth changes.)
From Ugarit scripts, unbelievable not to mention the message from
Bolivia.
So all the stones seem to have a message, they seem to be talking
some how through its art and its truth.
And note this message comes from all the surrounding regions of the
area that were related to 1stEden and note that a voice from the
past is making it voice felt today, Like a warning from the past,
from the pit.
However, we don't have to worry because we know the truth and
understand the true message of the place which is truth, beauty and
goodness. The Jesus message of love and forgiveness and move
forward. That is I feel is the life raft through this journey,
through the valley of the shadow of death. Look at what is being
promoted today. Have faith it all turn out ok.
So now in the current timeline you have.
Isreal surrounded by
people who want to destroy it.
A people who want hegemony over a large part of the area.
You have a voice from the past religions of the area warning us of
judgement through the stones.
You have the discovery 1st Eden/Atlantis.
You have timeline markers that can be recognised.
You have a conjunction in the scripts that harmonise with science.
You have a message of peace and message of destruction of those
who seek destruction wilfully upon others.
Its a real space/time unification going on here with revelation and
reality forming a oneness in truth and how it plays out.
There seems to be many connections here of a great saga, a great
spiritual battle. Like watching the movies and we are the actors in
physical and you have the spiritual actors and the earth. Its
interesting.
Also I've seen 3 circles in a co planar fashion in other seals, bit I lost track
of them. I think they are significant and further supports the idea, also I
think the 3 circles resembles not only the canals on the Acropolis Hill but the
Paradise Trinity in a cosmic sense.
Just follow the arrows it a little messy.
Is this what they mean by the sacred stones, a map to the land of the Gods
A four winged angels, like
the one described in Ezekiel, actually there Seraphim's. Can be a
look into the Nephilim or the Annanuki in this stone, the watchers!!
Its interesting all the realities going on now in the world is very
much apart of the spiritual reality! Spiritual forces in the
kingdoms of men. I thank God for Jesus and his great message.
Now the final step in
the Eye journey and a message from the past, greeting us in working
out this mystery. All the way from Peru , the Nazca lines. The saw
it all beforehand, from the lost generation. Say hi!
I would take that as a confirmation of the journey from
Mesopotamia to Peru with 5500 year old message and wave for today.
April 11
2007: Now that we are further down the
track we see the waving hand of the waving man of Dilmun with a
triangular headdress.
Dilmun, the home of the original Andites.
Also
note: Now that we are further down in the timeline the
relevance of the messages of the Seven tablets
seem more relevant now that we have identified the
breach of Dilmun and perhaps in Isaiah
in the sevenfold timeline regarding the breach, a conjunction of
manifestation, truth and point of realisation.
and now consider this thread of thought and
discovery of the Breach of Dilmun
also
further mystery Does the "double deeps" as referred to
excerpts in the Sevens tablet refer to the two locations of
discovery,
Dalamatia, Dilmun and Babel. The two locations of the
Seven commands discovery?
Here is a link to Dilmun in Bahrain close to the original home of
the Nephilim in physical many thousands of years ago, before our
known recognized history.
Here is seven concentric circle seal, the same representation as in The Mari
Seal which in my mind depicts the springs on top of the Acropolis Hill. To me it
seems like a connection symbolism, part of the mysteries of mysteries,
time/space unification in meaning for me.
Source Link
Just scroll down and look at the images and it relation to Sumerian
commonalities.
Also the whale image in my mind is the isle of the Gods of Cyprus another map.
Note the isthmus and the river outline in the middle running out of the
location.
And the island jutting out of coastal outline.
Again in the Hummingbird image in the link above To me it looks an outline of an
island connected to the mainland by an isthmus, like in the location?
This must be the confirmation surely,
here another Olmec version.
Another Version of the Tree of Life
The Eye of Creation and the Snake=Human DNA
To me it look like another depiction of the isle of the Gods with the tree of
life present, the isle is like a tree but looking at it from an island point of
view it could look like the location connected by an isthmus with two gates
running across the isthmus as you can see. And you can see the 3 co-planar
circles at the base of the tree.
Tells the same story and all the characters are in the saga.
Note the tree of life perpetuation from the Americas
I went to the pic and went to the link and briefed through it, amazed. All the
same features, I read about the 7 cities, surrounded by 7 hills...incredible.
The whole story seems like the Atlantis story for sure.
The one thing that will determine much would be the result of core samples in
around the location of Cyprus. I say around 34,000 years ago, the deluge others
say 14,000 years or less. Unfortunately I dont think they will be doing core
samples in this next expedition becuase of the war. So the debate will rage on
for a while yet.
Im thinking in my heart that the legend migrated up there through the family way
in the past by a truth seeker within the family or the family are actual
descendants and survivors of the Atlanteans and migrated and brought the legend
with them.
The Admaites did penetrate Europe after the deluge. I enjoyed the UB parallels,
like to Vaner has links to Van, Lake Van Turkey, where Van custodian of the tree
lived 150,000 years ago to 38,0000. Van built a civilisation, the forerunners of
the Urartians. Van built the Garden of Eden/Atlantis Cyprus and transplanted the
tree of life on the location. Adam and Eve materialised and ate of the tree for
100 years and were expelled.
Note the Sevens and the deluge.
Note that on the location the Acropolis Hill is surrounded by seven hills.
To me it describes the location and everything. However its the core samples
that will tell the story.
April 11th 2007
Read the following post The Beginnings of the
search for Dalamatia
Hi Rockessence.
I know its a big study, I briefed through it as quick as could to
give you some reply. I have to go through it methodically, I tried
listening to a audio tape but I couldn't understand the person very
well. But it seems like a very old family legend, it quite amazing
that a record like this could survive all those years.
Its funny all these discoveries, when you put the pieces together,
and still there that 10% of wandering or is it right with anything.
That's where I think science really helps as it helps make
determination.
I really appreciate the link and will study it, What about the cave
and the rock seal. The size of it!
Its quite incredible how there seems to be links to the tree of life
all over the world or at least some mythology where the fruit of a
tree gave immortality. Ive been researching the tree aspect and
following it through to Dilmun, near where the home of the Nephilim
lived. Apparently Sumerian texts has a record of this mythical land
of the Gods that was between 2 seas,
(11 April 2007 could be a peninsula,
like in dilmun), the very birth of civilisation.
Then you go North East Cyprus, where the Adamics also had the tree
of life for a short time They also held the legend in there myths in
the 2nd garden which became confused in the record of the tree.
Dalamatia was a place I feel, that may have been located off Bahrain
on a submerged spit of land between 2 seas that connected to the
mainland. The place was submerged after a tidal wave 150,000 then
re emerged, then to resubmerge again. However from what I read there
are vestiges still left of the lost city. However
Here is a link of a sketch I put together sometime ago, its only speculation, it
could one of a couple of places, either Bahrain or near the mouth of
the Mesopotamian rivers.
Having a look at it, I would say the Mesopotamia option looks the
most compelling as it fits the story and you have anomalous objects
seen there with they look symmetrical.
Early links Where do you think the
lost city of
Dalamatia exists.
It might help piece the overall picture, to have a hypothesis and
then back engineer to see if the evidence fits.
You know I think a new study should be launched into the Sumerian
tablets in light of this new knowledge and discovery. Looking at it
from this point of view.
11 April 2007
Look where are now. We have discovered all the ancient
places 1stEden,Dalamatia, Dilmun,Babel and the
Adamson
civilisation and have revealed the places where its knowledge is
needed most on the run. The journey has elevated so much and
has hit no dead ends.
Also in the above was an initial search I did
for the ancient places.
The Discovery of Dalamatia
down in the timeline.
Early thoughts.
Where do you think the lost city of
Dalamatia exists.
Hi Ideopraxist
I read Life on The Other Side of the Flood that was great. I really enjoyed that
and felt it was balanced. I could see the face in the stone, it was quite
amazing seeing it pop out like that, These stones are so unusual aren't they.
Its been flat out here following the path to see if I can uncover more,
uncovering more stones trying to see whats on them, under them. You know.
What did you think of those wall relief's of the Angels harvesting the fruits of
the tree of life. I thought the high res pics where majestic. Certainly a story
of the past, Im just thinking about it relevance for today.
If its right where this is all leading, the tree of life could very much be
apart of the future. Seeing those majestic relief's but in context to the reality
could be significant to today.
Rising out of the stone.
Anyway Im sure all this, everything links up and all points to the message of
the day, somehow. Finding all these clues of the ancients being led here, there,
everywhere is a real journey in itself. In both physical and spiritual its a
real oneness.
Just some thoughts.
all the best and enjoyed your links.
regards
sevens
Hi
Been following the Seven track to find out more on a spiritual level
and how Sevenfold ties in since we see Sevenfold in all culture in
one way or another. Here is what I found, its a read but interesting
and does have strong links to the Sevenfold.
Here is an extract from the UB which I think is very relevant for
today and it provides better understanding of the parallels and
linkages to all the discoveries that are happening now, in our own
individual way.
But these mistakes of the intellect in no way interfered with the
believer's great progress in growth in spirit. In less than a
month after the bestowal of the Spirit of Truth, the apostles made
more individual spiritual progress than during their almost four
years of personal and loving association with the Master. Neither
did this substitution of the fact of the resurrection of Jesus for
the saving gospel truth of sonship with God in any way interfere
with the rapid spread of their teachings; on the contrary, this
overshadowing of Jesus' message by the new teachings about his
person and resurrection seemed greatly to facilitate the preaching
of the good news.
The term "baptism of the spirit," which came into such
general use about this time, merely signified the conscious
reception of this gift of the Spirit of Truth and the personal
acknowledgment of this new spiritual power as an augmentation
of all spiritual influences previously experienced by God-knowing
souls.
Since the bestowal of the Spirit of Truth, man is subject to
the teaching and guidance of a threefold spirit endowment: the
spirit of the Father, the Thought Adjuster; the spirit of the Son,
the Spirit of Truth; the spirit of the Spirit, the Holy Spirit.
In a way, mankind is subject to the double influence of the
sevenfold appeal of the universe spirit influences. The early
evolutionary races of mortals are subject to the progressive
contact of the seven adjutant mind-spirits of the local universe
Mother Spirit. As man progresses upward in the scale of
intelligence and spiritual perception, there eventually come
to hover over him and dwell within him the seven higher spirit
influences. And these seven spirits of the advancing worlds
are:
1. The bestowed spirit of the Universal Father-the Thought
Adjusters.
2. The spirit presence of the Eternal Son--the spirit gravity of
the universe of universes and the certain channel of all spirit
communion.
3. The spirit presence of the Infinite Spirit--the universal
spirit-mind of all creation, the spiritual source of the
intellectual kinship of all progressive intelligences.
4. The spirit of the Universal Father and the Creator Son--the
Spirit of Truth, generally regarded as the spirit of the
Universe Son.
5. The spirit of the Infinite Spirit and the Universe Mother
Spirit--the Holy Spirit, generally regarded as the spirit of the
Universe Spirit.
6. The mind-spirit of the Universe Mother Spirit--the seven
adjutant mind-spirits of the local universe.
7. The spirit of the Father, Sons, and Spirits--the new-name
spirit of the ascending mortals of the realms after the fusion
of the mortal spirit-born soul with the Paradise Thought
Adjuster and after the subsequent attainment of the divinity and
glorification of the status of the Paradise Corps of the
Finality.
And so did the bestowal of the Spirit of Truth bring to the world
and its peoples the last of the spirit endowment designed to
aid in the ascending search for God.
I hope you didn't mind that but its good to explore and its the best
cosmology around as one can personally witness it in there own life.
Good information for all.
Here is another little Gem I
just found that completely confirms my explorations and discoveries
with relation to the journey to Eden through the scripts and the
Sevenfold connection with ancient and today's truth. To me it
confirms my studies in the stars constellations of Orion and its
Sevenfold connection with constellations like Orion and its starmap
links with the Sphinxes riddle and other seven connections.
I found in the following an extract out of the UB about Amos and his
association of the Father with the seven truth of the Stars and also
makes association to Orion. How Ironic, so in effect it endorsees
the research in Job 38 as well.
Said Amos: "He who formed the mountains and created the wind,
seek him who formed the seven stars and Orion, who turns the
shadow of death into the morning and makes the day dark as night."
And in denouncing his half-religious, timeserving, and
sometimes immoral fellows, he sought to portray the inexorable
justice of an unchanging Yahweh when he said of the evildoers:
"Though they dig into hell, thence shall I take them; though they
climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down." "And though
they go into captivity before their enemies, thence will I direct
the sword of justice, and it shall slay them." Amos further
startled his hearers when, pointing a reproving and accusing
finger at them, he declared in the name of Yahweh: "Surely I will
never forget any of your works." "And I will sift the house of
Israel among all nations as wheat is sifted in a sieve."
Note: the reference to Judgement!
Whats been presented in the last 2 posts is connections with the
Sevenfold, The Father, The Holy Spirit and its Sevenfold
augmentation, the Seven stars and Orion in the bible.
quote:
seek him who formed
the seven stars and Orion, who turns the shadow of death into the
morning and makes the day dark as night."
I must say this is
interesting in its direct references to Amos with the mention of the
Seven Stars and Orion, the Ancient Sethite truth. Also note its
connection to some judgement. Whilst Amos in the past was speaking
to his brethren in that time, however all good prophecy has a
duality in the timeline and its interesting to note the Authors of
the UB would insert such as statement and its connection to the
Seven Stars and Orion perhaps for this time in this conversation.
Makes you think! Whether this is a subtle endorsement from the UB
and the authors for time of realisation. Also this links with
Revelations references to the Seven Stars and the Seven Churches and
its connection to the mystery of the Sevens Stars.
Makes you really think about it.
Only time will tell.
Quite an interesting conjunction. Not to mention all the support
from Archaeology and its parallels in discovery. Im noticing more
that with all the fragments pieced together there is a very strong
conjunction of knowledge and common thread that goes straight to
Paradise and all the characters are becoming more evident as we go
in the journey.
The Supreme Being has a threefold function in the experience of
mortal man: First, he is the unifier of time-space
divinity, God the Sevenfold; second, he is the maximum of
Deity which finite creatures can actually comprehend; third,
he is mortal man's only avenue of approach to the
transcendental experience of consorting with absonite mind,
eternal spirit, and Paradise personality.
On Urantia there is a widespread belief that the purpose of a
Son's bestowal is, in some manner, to influence the attitude of
the Universal Father. But your enlightenment should indicate
that this is not true. The bestowals of
the Avonal and the Michael Sons are a necessary part of the experiential process
designed to make these Sons safe and sympathetic magistrates
and rulers of the peoples and planets of time and space.
The career of sevenfold bestowal is the supreme goal of all
Paradise Creator Sons. And all Magisterial Sons are
motivated by this same spirit of service which so abundantly
characterizes the primary Creator Sons and the Eternal Son of
Paradise.
here is a little about Jesus and might ad light to the Jesus and
Mary Magdalene.
The UB Link in the link above
On a mortal-bestowal mission a Paradise Son is always born of
woman and grows up as a male child of the realm, as Jesus did on
Urantia. These Sons of supreme service all pass from infancy
through youth to manhood just as does a human being. In every
respect they become like the mortals of the race into which they
are born. They make petitions to the Father as do the children of
the realms in which they serve. From a material viewpoint, these
human-divine Sons live ordinary lives with just one exception:
They do not beget offspring on the worlds of their sojourn; that
is a universal restriction imposed on all orders of the Paradise
bestowal Sons.
Zoroastrianism is the only Urantian creed that perpetuates the
Dalamatian and Edenic teachings about the Seven Master Spirits.
While failing to evolve the Trinity concept, it did in a
certain way approach that of God the Sevenfold. Original
Zoroastrianism was not a pure dualism; though the early teachings
did picture evil as a time co-ordinate of goodness, it was
definitely eternity-submerged in the ultimate reality of the good.
Only in later times did the belief gain credence that good and
evil contended on equal terms.
becuase I just found this on net. After reading the following rough
quote from Herodotus it appears that the Pillars of Heracles was in
a number of places besides Gilbraltor.
Here's a rough quote
from Herodotus:
In the wish to get the best information that I could on these
matters, I made a voyage to Tyre in Phoenicia, hearing
there was a temple of Heracles at that place, very highly
venerated. I visited the temple, and found it richly adorned with
a number of offerings, among which were two pillars, one of
pure gold, the other of smaragdos, shining with great
brilliancy at night.
In a conversation which I held with the priests, I inquired how
long their temple had been built, and found by their answer that
they, too, differed from the Hellenes. They said that the temple
was built at the same time that the city was founded, and that the
foundation of the city took place 2,300 years ago. (that's almost
3000BC, 5000 years ago, pretty close to Urgarit times in History.)
I thought it was interesting. There was probably pillars in the
temple of Hellenes that seems to have religious undertones, in some
ways being associated with a temple. Also assuming Pillars in the
temple of Hellenes Plato probably referred to some pillars more
close by. Perhaps!
Personaly I feel the Pillars are representative of the 12 gates that
was built across the Isthmus of the submerged location, the neck.
The 12 Gates are associated with the location and is in Parallel to
the Pillars in the temple as seen in Tyre and in Egypt. Like a
duality. This duality persisted throughout myth and Legend and in
the Plato rendition of the location.
So now we have the The Pillars of Heracles and the temple in Tyre,
Egypt and Hellenes. I suppose in Athens, I assume. Three locations
of the pillars of Heracles. Such a high concentration of Pillars of
Heracles that surround the location of Cyprus. Atlantis in my mind
and Eden. The Pillars was smashed by Heracles and the deluge
occurred and the memory perpetuated within the med.
After the first garden
was vacated by Adam, it was occupied variously by the Nodites,
Cutites, and the Suntites. It later became the dwelling
place of the northern Nodites who opposed co-operation with the
Adamites. The peninsula had been overrun by these lower-grade
Nodites for almost four thousand years after Adam left the
Garden when, in connection with the violent activity of the
surrounding volcanoes and the submergence of the Sicilian land
bridge to Africa, the eastern floor of the Mediterranean Sea sank,
carrying down beneath the waters the whole of the Edenic
peninsula. Concomitant with this vast submergence the coast line
of the eastern Mediterranean was greatly elevated. And this
I was interested in the Cutites, and the Suntites and maybe the
Northern Nodites (The Giants in mythology) where the Atlanteans that
Plato and the ancient Greeks was referring to. The ancient Greeks
being direct progeny of the eldest son of Adam, that's where they
get the notion that there heritage is from the Gods in mythology,
its a blend of truth but does have threads.
Also note the Atlanteans were the Northern Nodites, The Northern
Nodites seems to have 3 different sub cultures who controlled the
place in 4000 years.
The Northern Nodites
The Suntites
The Cutites
The only thing in can associates the Suntites is with Sun worship
culture, The Cutites maybe the Gutites where in conflict with the
Adamics, maybe.
I did a search in Google on "The Gutites" and came up the following
forum link out of nothing much. I was drawn to the following quote:
In the case of Iran, the Elamites, Susians and others also
mentioned in SEMITIC LITERATURE LIKE THE BIBLE, were the
original people in Persia and after the migrations of the
Gutites from Zagros Mountains, the mixing of races began. Yet,
for thousannds of years a certain segment of the original
population remained in the Southern part of Iran.
Here is the google search, so little info mation about the Gutites.
1. The violet race--Adamites and Adamsonites. The chief center of
Adamite culture was in the second garden, located in the triangle
of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers; this was indeed the cradle of
Occidental and Indian civilizations. The secondary or northern
center of the violet race was the Adamsonite headquarters,
situated east of the southern shore of the Caspian Sea near the
Kopet mountains. From these two centers there went forth to the
surrounding lands the culture and life plasm which so immediately
quickened all the races.
Here is a little something of where the early Greeks came from
This center of civilization was situated in the region east of
the southern end of the Caspian Sea, near the Kopet Dagh. A short
way up in the foothills of Turkestan are the vestiges of what was
onetime the Adamsonite headquarters of the violet race. In
these highland sites, situated in a narrow and ancient fertile
belt lying in the lower foothills of the Kopet range, there
successively arose at various periods four diverse cultures
respectively fostered by four different groups of Adamson's
descendants. It was the second of these groups which
migrated westward to Greece and the islands of the Mediterranean.
The residue of Adamson's descendants migrated north and west to
enter Europe with the blended stock of the last Andite wave
coming out of Mesopotamia, and they were also numbered among
the Andite-Aryan invaders of India.
This could one of the Cultures that were in conflict with the
Atlanteans The Gutites/The Cutites or The Northern Nodites?? Could
this be the third culture that took over Atlantis after the
expulsion of Adam?
Eden being inhabited by the Adamic originally.
Ok looking at it further Looks all these cultures as mentioned above
where sub cultures of the Northern Nodites and here is a little
something about them.
When Adam elected to leave the first garden to the Nodites
unopposed, he and his followers could not go west, for the
Edenites had no boats suitable for such a marine adventure. They
could not go north; the northern Nodites were already on the march
toward Eden. They feared to go south; the hills of that region
were infested with hostile tribes. The only way open was to the
east, and so they journeyed eastward toward the then pleasant
regions between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. And many of those
who were left behind later journeyed eastward to join the Adamites
in their new valley home.
No worries Im probably a little off
topic, got carried away.
I just wanted to explore the possible connection with the Egyptians and
Atlantean cultures that inhabited the location before the deluge.
Actually, thinking about it after reading the post abuot the Guti, I was on the
wrong track in the timelne, Im talking about a pre history that goes back let
say 34,000 years.
Thanks it was interesting reading about the Guti.
Maybe the Guti were tha last and the distinct race to come out of the area of
the Kopet Dagh and surrounding areas but in the timeline of the Guti?
Moon worship preceded sun worship. Veneration of the moon was at
its height during the hunting era, while sun worship became the
chief religious ceremony of the subsequent agricultural ages.
Solar worship first took extensive root in India, and there it
persisted the longest. In Persia sun veneration gave rise to the
later Mithraic cult.
Among many peoples the sun was regarded as the ancestor of
their kings.
The Chaldeans put the sun in the center of "the seven
circles of the universe." Later civilizations honored the sun
by giving its name to the first day of the week.
I thought that was an interesting link to the seven concentric
circles found all over the world and explains the ancient stones of
circles note to mention the Babylonian stones.
Here is a link to the Schools of the Seven Circles
The training of Technical Advisers, begun in the Melchizedek
colleges of the local universes, continues to the courts of the
Ancients of Days. From this superuniverse training they proceed to
the "schools of the seven circles" located on the pilot
worlds of the Havona circuits. And from the pilot worlds they are
received into the "college of the ethics of law and the
technique of Supremacy," the Paradise training school
for the perfecting of Technical Advisers.
All very interesting the relevance of the Seven Circles on the many
levels.
a search on Sevens in the UB and a desription of Paradise
Each of the seven sectors of Paradise is subdivided into
residential units suitable for the lodgment headquarters of one
billion glorified individual working groups. One thousand of these
units constitute a division. One hundred thousand divisions equal
one congregation. Ten million congregations constitute an
assembly. One billion assemblies make one grand unit. And this
ascending series continues through the second grand unit, the
third, and so on to the seventh grand unit. And ] seven
of the grand units [/Bmake up the master units, and seven of the
master units constitute a superior unit; and thus by sevens the
ascending series expands through the superior, supersuperior,
celestial, supercelestial, to the supreme units. But even this
does not utilize all the space available. This staggering number
of residential designations on Paradise, a number beyond your
concept, occupies considerably less than one per cent of the
assigned [b] area of the Holy Land. There is still plenty of
room for those who are on their way inward, even for those who
shall not start the Paradise climb until the times of the eternal
future.
and here is the manifestion of Sevens reoccuring in the physical
of our reality today, The Sevenfold manifestation.
This sevenfold persistence of creative constitution is
exhibited in the chemical domains as a recurrence of similar
physical and chemical properties in segregated periods of seven
when the basic elements are arranged in the order of their atomic
weights.
When the Urantia chemical elements are thus arranged in a row, any
given quality or property tends to recur by sevens. This periodic
change by sevens recurs diminishingly and with variations
throughout the entire chemical table, being most markedly
observable in the earlier or lighter atomic groupings. Starting
from any one element, after noting some one property, such a
quality will change for six consecutive elements, but on reaching
the eighth, it tends to reappear, that is, the eighth chemically
active element resembles the first, the ninth the second, and so
on. Such a fact of the physical world unmistakably points to
the sevenfold constitution of ancestral energy and is
indicative of the fundamental reality of the sevenfold
diversity of the creations of time and space. Man should also
note that there are seven colors in the natural spectrum.
You know could work out the size of Paradise by the size of Isreal,
the Holy Land and then from there you could work out the size of the
universe? Population lation of Paradise not even 1%, lets .05%. Now
multiply that by the area of Isreal?
Real food for thought, the whole Sevenfold constitution on all
levels of reality, physical and spiritual.
Although the culture and religion of Egypt were chiefly derived
from Andite Mesopotamia and largely transmitted to subsequent
civilizations through the Hebrews and Greeks, much, very
much, of the social and ethical idealism of the Egyptians arose in
the valley of the Nile as a purely evolutionary development.
Notwithstanding the importation of much truth and culture of
Andite origin, there evolved in Egypt more of moral culture as
a purely human development than appeared by similar natural
techniques in any other circumscribed area prior to the
bestowal of Michael.
[list]
[*][b] But if the end times are indeed near, why would there be any point in
working toward fostering peace?[/b]
Right now the [b] Church of Jesus Christ[/b] is busy in the spiritual vein of
trying to win people to Christ. We’re concerned about the salvation of
individual souls. [b] This whole thing has heightened the spirit of
evangelism.[/b] Wars have always done that. But never have we had a war that is
so specifically following the pattern of the scripture.
and this
[b] So the Revelation should not be interpreted, for example, as a polemic
against Rome?[/b]
That’s what they say. We believe that [b] the Bible should be understood
literally whenever possible. [/b] The next [b] big event [/b]is the [b] second
coming of Christ.[/b] That’s preceded by [b] a number of signs.[/b] And some of
those [b] signs [/b]could be [b] stage-setting right now.[/b] They’re not going
to come out of nowhere. For example, the Bible predicts when the antichrist
comes and sits at his kingdom after [b] the Rapture,[/b] he’s going to have one
world economy and one world government and one world religion. We’re already
moving rapidly in the direction of those very things.
[/list]
Sounds like there is an awareness of similar vein to what we've been discussing.
There appears to be an activation going on and man is beginning to perceive. He
mentioned signs, well I think we've been discovering is signs enough.
Something stirring in the heavens? and in the light of the timeline of the signs
I think we are in the moment. Surely in relation to the threads of truth!
We must be getting close to something, just in the short time being here I've
noticed a difference in the general conversation, like there an up-tempo in
awareness and discovery in a personal way.
I think the test period is coming close to the finish. Ah see what happens, but
I feel things and realities are becoming more concentrated and intense.
People are proclaiming and there seems to be activation, that's good. Least the
body of Christ is gearing up and the message is not exclusive. This is there
whole purpose in this sense, for the end times and the message that Jesus
provided and demonstrated as he is demonstrating now through expanded
consciousness in exploration and discovery.
Well I hope in this time what we've been discovering has helped in to a deeper
understanding of the unfolding. Still walking in faith.
Gee! even Newsweek are prepared to run a story like this which mirrors, in
essence what we have been discussing. It shows there that there are people out
there who are concerned about destiny and willing to support the print of it.
Lets see what's around the corner, see what unfolds in this steady stream of
truth discovery.
You know the big sign in Cyprus, representative of the large truth could be the
life raft, people might start looking at it or at the truth behind it for the
answer which includes major Governments. Deep down in there soul there might be
those who may see this as a key, which it is and may let it happen, the
unfolding perhaps!
I'm thinking this is a walk between God and man . In that walk, man can find it
hard in his faith with what he sees. Because he is sincere, God opens the doors
for him to unlock the steady stream of truth in reality in the timeline.
I mean to say, what are we talking, no odds for that, one would have to have
real faith to see this regardless. That's the test of man in his persistence
which is rewarded with seeing realties that unlocks truth and change.
I'm sure there is real potency in this knowledge and understanding and that's
why its is imperative for man to be honest, sincere and truthful who has to
share the discoveries. So there is no holding back for gain. I'm sure this
allows God to act and to operate in the realities of time and space with man
more fully in real unison and conjunction with man, a unification of time/space.
In that faith, I feel the mountain can move and things can change.
regards
sevens
Good find Riven,
I liked the following parts, speaks of an island, springs-more than
one, nice climate like a garden on an island with springs and more.
quote:
Yet these abodes to
Elis I prefer,
No clime to me so sweet, no place so dear.
These springs I Arethusa now possess,
And this my seat, o gracious Goddess, bless:
This island why I love, and why I crost
Such spacious seas to reach Ortygia's coast,
also this part.
Is that Sevens in association with a flood and a hypothesis.
Springs, (Springs on the Acropolis Hill)
Island (Cyprus in my view, submerged island)
Seat (The Acropolis Hill, the location)
Its all related.
quote:
Their routed godheads
to the sev'n-mouth'd flood;
Forc'd every God, his fury to escape.
seven mouthed flood,
(related to the message, message from the ancients, Sevenfold,
seven, the message.)
Flood (part of the message, The Hypothesis)
Fury (judgement, revealed)
Escape (Everyone ran for cover)
this part i liked to
quote:
At this confession
Atlas ghastly star'd,
Mindful of what an oracle declar'd, That the dark womb of Time conceal'd a day,
Which should, disclos'd, the bloomy gold betray:
All should at once be ravish'd from his eyes,
And Jove's own progeny enjoy the prize.
For this, the fruit he loftily immur'd,
Atlas(God)
Oracle (message of the day)
Dark womb of time (the Location, hidden place)
Concealed (hidden)
Disclosed (revealed)
Ravished at once (The conviction, the message comes to light)
Gold betray,(Material things mean nothing)
Own progeny,(Those of faith)
Prize, (prize of faith)
Fruit, (Tree of life and what represents)
quote:
Nor falsly dare thy
acts and race to boast.
In vain the heroe for one night entreats,
Is this the another sign
of the times, the timeline. I believe its related to those who
seek for terror who claim hero ship through false ideas connected
to death. Note how this ends suddenly in one night. Are we getting
close?
Then you have the Daniel 2 prophecy about the stone cut out of the
mountain and that mountain that filled the whole earth.
Gone mad, totally. You could only hope this is only the last playing itself out
with irrational talk. Notice how bizarre its all seeming, like rhetoric gone
crazy with out discovery.
Its a worry but I have faith that it will come good. I hope so!
Enforcement, assertion of personal will over others, no respect for the present
or the past.
All characteristics of what and whom. Makes you think. What drives him,
prophecy?? I suppose that's why its a time for learning and researching for
everyone in what's happening and the truth behind it all. Look at the
alternative! I'm sure there is no help from Heaven for those who discover terror
and use it to manipulate mankind into fear. Like what we saw in Afghanistan some
years ago. Is that the alternative!
I know there is much talk of religion and end times but really it is a great
possibility when you look at the message today. I'm deeply sure that message we
are discovering today, through discovery reflects the right message of the times
and the universe, a construct welded together with love for one another and in
that we learn and understand each other. I'm sure there will be no room for
terrors in the new world.
Anyway I feel its more of a battle of truth and this is the manifestation. I
just pray there is no major catastrophe??
Its good what we know, least we can clearly identify truth. I feel the problem
and the solution comes from religion itself. Its the true source problem that is
leading to this crazy spiritual condition we have here on earth.
But if the end times
are indeed near, why would there be any point in working toward
fostering peace?
Right now the Church of Jesus Christ is busy in the
spiritual vein of trying to win people to Christ. We’re concerned
about the salvation of individual souls. This whole thing has
heightened the spirit of evangelism. Wars have always done
that. But never have we had a war that is so specifically
following the pattern of the scripture.
and this
So the Revelation should not be interpreted, for example, as a
polemic against Rome?
That’s what they say. We believe that the Bible should be
understood literally whenever possible. The next big event
is the second coming of Christ. That’s preceded by a
number of signs. And some of those signs could be
stage-setting right now. They’re not going to come out of
nowhere. For example, the Bible predicts when the antichrist comes
and sits at his kingdom after the Rapture, he’s going to
have one world economy and one world government and one world
religion. We’re already moving rapidly in the direction of those
very things.
Sounds like there is an awareness of similar vein to what we've been
discussing. There appears to be an activation going on and man is
beginning to perceive. He mentioned signs, well I think we've been
discovering is signs enough.
Something stirring in the heavens? and in the light of the timeline
of the signs I think we are in the moment. Surely in relation to the
threads of truth!
We must be getting close to something, just in the short time being
here I've noticed a difference in the general conversation, like
there an up-tempo in awareness and discovery in a personal way.
I think the test period is coming close to the finish. Ah see what
happens, but I feel things and realities are becoming more
concentrated and intense.
People are proclaiming and there seems to be activation, that's
good. Least the body of Christ is gearing up and the message is not
exclusive. This is there whole purpose in this sense, for the end
times and the message that Jesus provided and demonstrated as he is
demonstrating now through expanded consciousness in exploration and
discovery.
Well I hope in this time what we've been discovering has helped in
to a deeper understanding of the unfolding. Still walking in faith.
Gee! even Newsweek are prepared to run a story like this which
mirrors, in essence what we have been discussing. It shows there are
people out there who are concerned about destiny and willing to
support the print of it.
Lets see what's around the corner, see what unfolds in this steady
stream of truth discovery.
You know the big sign in Cyprus, representative of the large truth
could be the life raft, people might start looking at it or at the
truth behind it for the answer which includes major Governments.
Deep down in there soul there might be those who may see this as a
key, which it is and may let it happen, the unfolding perhaps!
I'm thinking this is a walk between God and man . In that walk, man
finds it hard in his faith with what he sees but because he is
sincere, God opens the doors for him to unlock the steady stream of
truth, in reality, in the timeline.
I mean to say, what are we talking about, no odds for that, one
would have to have real faith to see this regardless. That's the
test of man in his persistence which is rewarded with seeing
realties that unlocks truth and change.
I'm sure there is real potency in this knowledge and understanding
and that's why its is imperative for man to be honest, sincere and
truthful who has to share the discoveries with man. So there is no
holding back for whatever motive. I'm sure this allows God to act
and to operate in the realities of time and space with man more
fully in real unison and conjunction with man, a unification of
time/space. In that faith, I feel the mountain can move and things
can change.
But with a message that provides hope and happiness in truth not all
this other rubbish. gotta be kidding.
regards
sevens
Pretty cool, all reveals the
current reality.
quote:
with due rite,
the god who moves those lips, and reveal my beloved
Delphi and the heavens themselves, and unlock the
oracles of that sublime mind. I will speak of mighty
matters, not fathomed by earlier greatness, things long hidden.
I delight in journeying among the distant stars: I delight
in leaving earth and its dull spaces, to ride the clouds; to stand
on the shoulders of mighty Atlas,
due rite ( the
right of God) moves lip (shares the truth) reveals (reveals the secrets) Delphi (Reveals the temple, the submerged temple.( Heavens themselves (revealing all the truth of the past and
today.) Oracles (unlocking the great mystery pf mystery, mind of
God) Mighty matters (matters of truth)
Pretty cool, all reveals the current reality. not fathomed (not known, kept but when revealed expands
truth and the message not understood nor received.) earlier times (ancient times before known history) long hidden (long hidden from the past) delight (its an excellent journey of discovering truth) distant stars (finding the truth of the stars and its
message for today.)
rapture leaving the earth (sounds like rapture, the event before
the event.)
Sounds like another set of strong parallels to what is happening
today with great accuracy and its related around
Atlantis/Atlas/God
How fascinating was that article. Its interesting how
the conversation about the End Times seems to be more
prevalent. Many people seem to be talking about it,
especially in the press, quite surprising.
Maybe there is a quickening going on, note how there are
changes happening in our solar system, according to the
article. It all seems to be something going within the
scenes and does parallel our conversation quite directly
especially in relation to our own research.
Time will tell on this one, maybe the planet is about to
enter another level of time/space but towards the
Absonite?? like a blend of time space mixed in with
Absonite/Absolute paradigms. But eternal levels will
outstrip time/space through its evolution. If the Solar
system is showing changes then the Paradise Trinity must
be close or even here. They effect everything physical
which does alter when there presence is felt. Just by
there presence.
All Puissant energy does come forth from Paradise and
does explain the many changes that are occurring on many
levels of existence, not just this level of existence,
but lock, stock and barrel...all existences.
Anyway food for thought. Personally, I would see all
these observations as parts of the major planetary
reality playing itself out, I wouldn't be surprised that
the scenario of End Times is building its own momentum
to the moment and is approaching fast. I'm starting to
think that all our personal discoveries are happening
allot quicker, more condensed and with fuller meaning.
Its all starting to fall in place and makes sense, its
quite logical considering the info attached to this
scenario, not to mention the timeline and its markers
that we know off.
I agree with you on this. The only thing we know is that we are
discussing a period where sea levels were very much lower than today,
that land along the coasts of almost all continents and island groups
was habitable but is now underwater, and that investigation has proved
early humans lived in many of these marginal lands. We have no proof of
great civilizations from that period and would be premature in naming
them if they did exist - except for Atlantis.
General knowledge at the time of Plato did not include the rise of sea
levels around the world nor the specific date when this rise occurred.
What is compelling is that Plato's written accounts match the date the
Celtic Shelf was inundated. The size of the plain described by Plato
matches the size of the plain on the Celtic Shelf. The location of
Atlantis as facing the district of Gades matches the location of the
Celtic Shelf, which is north of Gades.
The people who live along the edges of the Celtic Shelf have lived there
since before it sunk. Folklore handed down through the generations
speaks of a "land under the waves" and a people who were "gods and not
gods". We know these are the descendants of those people because we have
DNA evidence to prove it. We know they were "advanced" for their time
because we have the evidence in their cave art and their toolkits to
prove it.
We are beginning to suspect that they migrated north and south, that
some of them may have been responsible for the first civilizations in
the Middle East, including the rise of the "Indo-Europeans", but we have
yet to discover their origins and why they were so advanced for their
time. Until we know the answers to those questions, until we know what
lies beneath the waves, we cannot be certain - but generally, if it
waddles like a duck and it quacks like a duck, it is a duck.
Don't take me wrong. I agree
that at a time of lower ocean levels and probably at the time of
Atlantis, there very well could have been civilizations now sunken and
forgotten. But these civilizations were not Lemuria or Mu any more than
Gotham is New York City. When these civilizations are found they will
have their own names and histories. Sevens: Yes Eden existed. The first
books of the Bible were written long after the fact. I consider them
parables; true in context but not very explicit. When Adam and Eve were
driven from the garden, God placed an angel with a flaming sword at the
entrance of the garden to prevent Adams return to it. The Bible says
nothing about it being submerged in water though I suppose it was,
later, during the flood. Could the flaming sword have been a blazing
asteroid impact?
It could shed light on the Deluge of the Eastern Med.
also
Here is a small extract out the book of Adam and Eve that in my mind
speak of the Flood of Eden and the destruction of an evil empire. I
believe this extract is a direct reference to the location and Atlantis,
4000 years after Adam and Eve.
In the following, I feel is
the Atlantis/Urantia/1st Adam and Eve book connection after the
expulsion of Adam from 1st Eden (Cyprus) and information of the people
who inhabited the garden after the Adamic expulsion but before the
deluge which is also mentioned.
Note: The First garden of Eden (Cyprus) is to the west of the 2nd
Garden of Eden (Iraq, East) Adam and Eve are in the second garden.
(East of the original garden)
extract
53:6-7 For in this western border, (the location, due west) O Adam,
there will go from you a descendant, that shall replenish it; and that
will defile themselves with their sins, and with their yielding to the
commands of Satan, and by following his works. (The Atlanteans)
7 Therefore will I bring over them the waters (job 28 & 1enoch ) of
a flood, and overwhelm them all. (The Deluge of the Eastern Med)
But I will deliver what is left of the righteous among them; and I
will bring them to a distant land, and the land in which you live
now shall remain desolate and without one inhabitant in it.
(Now we are talking about a race of people that inhabited the Garden
in the West and perpetuated their ideals and then a flood comes and
overwhelms them, sounds similar to the Atlantis account. Further in
the account there is Jesus and his promise bringing Adams descendants
(faith believers) back to the garden like in today's reality.
When you think about it further here is what I see.
this western border (Assuming this is written in the 2nd
Garden, to the East. The Western border could very mean the Eastern
Mediterranean shoreline. In addition we know that the location of
Cyprus is submerged of the Eastern Med.) Adam Reference to Adam, the Beginning of this Paradigm.
Remembering the Beginning is the end and the end is the beginning.
Selah a descendant Descendant from Adam or related will go back into
the Garden or perhaps partake of the questionable practices of the
culture in the garden. I wonder if this the progeny of Cain or related
to him?? that shall replenish it; This person builds an Empire where its
base is Atlantis. The Cyprus location. defile themselves Looks like this culture are perverse in there
ways. That's mentioned in Enoch for today. their sins Willingly sinning yielding to the commands of Satan Submission to the will of
Satan and his ways. by following his works By following his example, his manifesto. bring over them "Bring over them" sounds like a Tsunami. A
match to the Cyprus Hypothesis.
will bring over them a flood, like the filling of the Med Basin. Its a
direct reference to The Deluge of the Eastern Med. of a flood, and overwhelm them all In this section After the
Tsunami and the following flood overwhelm the area assumes that flood
never receded and sounds consistent to the Cyprus case.
But I will deliver what
is left of the righteous among them;
I will deliver God will warn and save through revealment. what is left Before the flood God will warn and save the people
who were perceptive and listened to the beforehand message of the
event. righteous among them; Those who hear the warning are the
righteous, they perceive the message and believe and activate. will bring them to a distant land, The righteous will evacuated
and God himself will save his people before the flood. land in which you live now Whilst this and the following maybe
about Earth changes it also Kind of feels like a message for today for
us now, what we read is a direct message for us through the demise of
this ancient culture Atlantis that went down in a flood. Its like
today with message of the test and we see today and the rediscovery of
Eden/Atlantis. What we see today and read in the past is a duality and
a message, its a time/space unification of the past and the present
and the future. anyway! shall remain desolate After the earth changes the land we live
in will not be recognizable. without one inhabitant in it. No one left all gone, I suppose
because of the earth changes.
This to me this fits in perfectly with the timeline as presented in the
scripts, all of them. Not just Bible.
Looks like this saving business has happened many times before. I
suppose this time is no different with respect to mans belief and
acceptance.
Just searching it further, if you look at the Book of Noah in this
rendition you can read a clear description of the deluge.
The following has my thoughts in between.
here is a description
of the Mediterranean deluge
Enoch 67.4 And they will shut up those Angels, who showed
iniquity, in that burning valley, (Eden Valley) which my
great-grandfather Enoch had shown to me previously, in the
west, (assuming Noah is in Mesopotamia to the east of the 1st
Eden location) near the mountains of gold and silver and iron and
soft metal and tin. (the location)
67.5 And I saw that valley, (The valley of Eden) in which
there was a great disturbance, and a heaving of the
waters. (tsunami effect, A Tsunami)
67.6 And when all this happened, from the fiery molten metal,
(Volcanic) and the disturbance, (earthquake) which
disturbed the waters in that place, a smell of sulphur
(volcanic) was produced, and it was associated with those
waters. (Water from the Atlantic, from the west) And that
valley (valley of Eden) of the Angels (1st Eden), who led men
astray, burns under the ground. (submerged)
67.7 And through the valleys of that same area, flow out
rivers of fire (personal conviction) where those Angels will
be punished, who led astray those on the dry ground.
Sounds like Judgement attached to the "same place"
(The Valley was once on dry ground inferring that the area that is
now submerged, destroyed by a Tsunami.) Images of 1st Eden
When you combine both scripts of Adam and Eve and Noah you have the
a complete description of who, when and where of the deluge that
occurred in the Eastern Med. Also it appears to be a duality of
todays message of the Tsunami of the times with respect to this
planet. No different in todays times.
Man that is so good, I really glad your having a great time exploring and
discovering new things. No thing nicer than being on the truth path and
particularly when you find things that compliments your search.
Its like those pictures that I put together from the creek over here, the way
they turned out was incredible. Its amazing that this very creek is where the
aboriginals used to hangout during the summer for thousands of years. It was a
real spiritual place for them.
It reminds me of a few verses in the Jesus papers of the Essenes.
Its just like this
Through the light of the mind, Through the light of nature,
And through the study of the Holy Word,
It nice to actually experience this oneness in nature and through revealment.
All the best prax with your search and discoveries.
regards
sevens
Hey ideopraxist,
How is it going, Glad you having a great time finding and exploring,
There is nothing nicer than finding a picture that fits, its all
very intriguing and brings us all closer to God as he impresses us
with his handy work. As we discover this we find him more. What an
inspiration, its like your secret place, whilst there is turmoil
about, yet you are at peace with your discoveries because you know
where it leads as revealed along the journey.
As for me I was going over some old posts looking into the pillars
of Heracles or Hercules and I stumbled across this in the Timeaus
and Critias
A description of the
Land of Atlantis and the inland sea.
How shall I establish my words? and what part of it can be truly
called a remnant of the land that then was? The whole
country is only a long promontory extending far into the sea
away from the rest of the continent, while the surrounding
basin of the sea is everywhere deep in the neighbourhood of
the shore.
Whilst one may think straightway ..oh he meant Gilbraltor. I see it
differently.
But by reading the above and placing yourself at the location I find
it describes the original inland sea that surrounded the Island
connected by a peninsula within a basin, exactly what you see at the
location.
Here is a link to a 3d images of the inland and the peninsula
surrounded by an Inland basin of sea, that was deep.
3d Images of the island and the sea.
I find when you combine this out of the Book of Adam and Eve.
A description of the
culture that inhabited Atlantis after the expulsion of Adam and
Eve and before the deluge.
extract
53:6-7 For in this western border, (the location, due west) O
Adam, [b] there will go from you a descendant, that shall
replenish it; and that will defile themselves with their sins, and
with their yielding to the commands of Satan, and by following his
works. (The Atlanteans)
7 Therefore will I bring over them the waters (job 28 & 1enoch
) of a flood, and overwhelm them all. (The Deluge of the
Eastern Med)
But I will deliver what is left of the righteous among them;
and I will bring them to a distant land, and the land in which
you live now shall remain desolate and without one inhabitant in
it.
(Now we are talking about a race of people that inhabited the
Garden in the West and perpetuated their ideals and then a flood
comes and overwhelms them, sounds similar to the Atlantis account.
Further in the account there is Jesus and his promise bringing
Adams descendants (faith believers) back to the garden like in
today's reality.
When you think about it further here is what I see.
this western border (Assuming this is written in the 2nd
Garden, to the East. The Western border could very well mean the
Eastern Mediterranean shoreline. In addition we know that the
location of Cyprus is submerged of the Eastern Med.) Adam Reference to Adam, the Beginning of this Paradigm.
Remembering the Beginning is the end and the end is the beginning.
Selah a descendant Descendant from Adam or related will go back
into the Garden or perhaps partake of the questionable practices
of the culture in the garden. I wonder if this the progeny of Cain
or related to him?? that shall replenish it; This person builds an Empire where
its base is Atlantis. The Cyprus location. defile themselves Looks like this culture are perverse in
there ways. That's mentioned in Enoch for today. their sins Willingly sinning yielding to the commands of Satan Submission to the will of
Satan and his ways. by following his works By following his example, his
manifesto. bring over them "Bring over them" sounds like a Tsunami. A
match to the Cyprus Hypothesis.
will bring over them a flood, like the filling of the Med Basin.
Its a direct reference to The Deluge of the Eastern Med. of a flood, and overwhelm them all In this section After
the Tsunami and the following flood overwhelm the area assumes
that flood never receded and sounds consistent to the Cyprus case.
Then combine it the rendition of the Deluge found in 2nd Enoch here
what you get
67.5 And I saw that valley, (The valley of Eden) in which
there was a great disturbance, and a heaving of the
waters. (tsunami effect, A Tsunami)
67.6 And when all this happened, from the fiery molten metal,
(Volcanic) and the disturbance, (earthquake) which
disturbed the waters in that place, a smell of sulphur
(volcanic) was produced, and it was associated with those
waters. (Water from the Atlantic, from the west) And that
valley (valley of Eden) of the Angels (1st Eden), who led men
astray, burns under the ground. (submerged)
67.7 And through the valleys of that same area, flow out
rivers of fire (personal conviction) where those Angels will
be punished, who led astray those on the dry ground.
67.5 And I saw that valley, (The valley of Eden) in which there
was a great disturbance, and a heaving of the waters. (tsunami
effect, A Tsunami)
67.6 And when all this happened, from the fiery molten metal,
(Volcanic) and the disturbance, (earthquake) which disturbed the
waters in that place, a smell of sulphur (volcanic) was produced,
and it was associated with those waters. (Water from the Atlantic,
from the west) And that valley (valley of Eden) of the Angels (1st
Eden), who led men astray, burns under the ground. (submerged)
67.7 And through the valleys of that same area, flow out rivers of
fire (personal conviction) where those Angels will be punished,
who led astray those on the dry ground.
Sounds like Judgement attached to the "same place"
(The Valley was once on dry ground inferring that the area that is
now submerged, destroyed by a Tsunami.) Images of 1st Eden
Even if you look at extracts out of the Book of Jubilees you see a
clear rendition of the Flood of Eden and its purpose as a seal for a
future event.
Jubilees 8:13 "And for
Ham came out as the second portion, beyond the Gejon (Nile),
toward the south, to the right of the garden, and it
proceeds to all the fire mountains, and goes toward the west
to the sea of Atil and goes west until it
reaches the sea of Mauk the one of which everything descends
that is destroyed
In the above we see the general description of the 2 inland seas
that were within the Med. In addition the Sea of Mauk is to the
West "the one of which everything descends" we see that the Deluge
emanated from the West as the flood came from the 2nd Sea from the
west to flood the sea of Atil (Atlantis) the Sea of the Gods to
the East.
The Pillars of Gilbraltor never existed 34,000 years ago.
Now in verse 23 we see the purpose of the place, the location.
testified against
(them) all. And he was taken from amongst the children of men,
and we conducted him into the Garden of Eden in majesty and
honour, and behold there he writes down the condemnation.24
and judgment of the world, and all the wickedness of the
children of men. And on account of it (God) brought the
waters of the flood upon all the land of Eden; for
there he was set as a sign and that he should testify
against all the children of men, that he should recount all
the 25 deeds of the generations until the day of
condemnation. And he burnt the incense of the sanctuary,
note: Sea of Atil and Eden is that a subtle association of Atil/Eden
or Atlantis/Eden??
We see in the above that submerged Eden/Atlantis is set as a
sign or seal for a future event. Its is related to the flood and
the judgment of mankind. The verse directly tells you about the
flood, the seal and the judgement or lets say change. It has all
the characters and physical markers and is endorsed by the other
scripts including Plato.
I mean to say that last piece in Jubilees really tells the whole
story and associates itself to Eden and Judgement directly. Its
a direct parallel and is inline with our discussions.
There is no where in the world where this conjunction is
happening. No where! Except of Cyprus.
I also see the same duality in the above Jubilees as with the
excerpt out of Adam and Eve. Its about the same place, the same
inhabitants and the purpose for today. But in today's timeline
the flood is a spiritual flood first followed by a planetary
physical change.
I think when all the information is combined it tells and
compliments the Atlantis story as a local Eastern Mediterranean
event rather than in the Atlantis beyond the later Pillars of
Heracles.
Also Brig here is a direct association of Eden and the flood and its
purpose through the scriptures.
Hi Since no one replies to
this thread I suppose the next information will be equally
irrelevant for most but anyway, here goes.
In the following are the dates of the Test period as inspired by the
40 days of Jesus in the wilderness and 40 years before the
Israelites came into the promised land and excerpts in Ezra as later
found (after the proclamation) of a record, written in 40 days with
a later record to be released at another time all beforehand of an
event. I thought a 40 day test was fitting but it was spontaneous
rather than calculated, on the spur as realised....kind of thing. In
the latter note the 7 parallel to significant dates and note that
there were 3 conjunction in the birth date of Jesus. Like a little
key in our timeline.
The proclamation.
4thJuly 2006
Test completion 14th August 2006
I just realised it was the 4th July independence day that I
proclaimed without realising it. Also the test completion date falls
on the Seven days before the Urantia Book birth date of Jesus.
August 21, 7 B.C Quite a significant date.
lets look at this again
The proclamation.
4thJuly 2006 1st week.
Test completion 14th August 2006, 6th week.
Jesus Birth date August 21, 7 B.C. 7th week.
all subject to slight variation but in the general area.
my hearts racing, that is a pattern of sevens 7s that is connected
in time/space in a pattern of proclamation and a seven pattern
"The Test of man faith" The test completion in complete, On his
birthday, the birth of Christ in 7th year BC in a conjunction
year, 3 of them of Jupiter and Saturn according JPL.
Here is possibly another clue.
in in the following Enoch extract you have this
Enoch 92:l2
Afterwards, in the seventh week a perverse generation shall
arise; abundant shall be its deeds, and all its deeds perverse.
During its completion, the righteous shall be selected
from the plant of everlasting righteousness; and to them
shall be given the sevenfold doctrine respecting every
part of his whole creation,
This could mean in the Seventh week of the
new Millennium of Jesus' birthdate August 21st 07 BC
The Seventh week is 1st - 8th is the Seventh week.
Now in relation to the test proclaimed on the 4th
july(Independence day!!) to the end of the test is around 14th
August,(the 6th week), Then after which we are in the seventh week
which I calculate 21st August(jesus birthdaye UB)
after the 21st August we are in the Seventh week and now look at
what Enoch says about the Seventh week during its completion.
Afterwards, in the seventh week, the week after Jesus' birth date,
in that week, in the period on 21st-28th August 7 days. That would
be a seven weeks completion since proclamation of the Test of mans
faith and embraces the patterns of Sevens perfectly.
So if I break it down further
Here is another view
4th July, test
start, 1st week
July 31st-6th August, 4th week
7th-14th August, 5th week 14th (Test completion, 40 days)
14th - 21st August, 6th week 21st-28th August, 7th week (Jesus birth date 21st August)
And what may occur maybe a great realisation??
Also there are other sevens phenomena in relation to other
birthdates within my own family equally 7 days apart in the 5th
month. Its like when I realised this on the cusp of the 5th week.
1, 7, 14(me) three 7s, personal parallel. We've often wandered
that. confirmation, maybe, coincidence...its interesting, another
little mystery. All these subtle things.
And again note in the seventh week in Enoch.
In the Seventh
week, During its completion,
righteous shall be selected from the plant of everlasting
righteousness;
This is not conscious plan, its on the run, the test date 4th July
was never planned it just happened but interestingly the beginning
of the seven week falls close to Jesus' birthday. amazing, how
significant!
Im sure this is the almighty pattern of Paradise in experiential
experience of the unfoldment of this.
Its all interesting, I hope you understand all this. To me it makes
all sense and is consistent with the pattern and looking at it
further its a combination of an on the spur proclamation upon
realisation of the test period as prophesied before the event, and
the the Seventh week prophesied in Enoch which falls on Jesus'
birthday in the Seventh week of the test. Its parallel to the Enoch
prophecy, specific for this time/date/timeline in our discussion. It
also marries the seven factor, perfect and in harmonisation with
this time/space unification.
Its like a birthday present and would be fitting day for an event.
That last Piece in Jubliees, in the above is just a massive prophecy on all
dimensions, Im realising how big it really is, in context to where we are at,
right now.
That's a SUPER JAG. 400 ton+
For me that is big and the duality in time/space is a duality in meaning and
events regardless of time space. Even though it reflects in the past it has a
duality in discovering it today in the record which has meaning for the destiny
of the future...now.
When was this book written? , the Book of Jubilees? How accurate is that in
theme and our discussions, the author might as well join this thread.
Importantly note: notice how this all is proclaimed beforehand, until the day.
Beforehand. I mean we are talking about the Land of the Gods aren't we!! They
are eternal, supernal and sublime. What would one expect when you discover the
land of the Gods and combine all there handy work in all the texts and then
piece all the evidence together. To find this huge message and the current
timeline.
Surely this is a sign, isn't it!! Maybe we should take note of, seems to have
all the factors combined. I would think there would be no other sign, to be
honest. Just how it combines all knowledge and unifies it to a point in
time/space of past, present and future in one reality. Wouldn't that be the
pattern of Paradise when you think about it, a unifying event an conjunction of
time/space and the Absolute/Absonite.
It must be a revelation of the mystery or the key that allows a higher level of
knowledge to become.
I reckon personally that the 7th Mystery or the Mystery of Mysteries is decoded,
in essence. The mystery of the Seven Stars is done! I'm bold enough to say that.
I think if someone looks into all the research who has more resources could find
allot more. But its a path, a small path in the sea of truth and peace. To me it
feels like a matter of awaiting the trumpet of the Seventh Angel and the
Paradise representatives and it will become in a world revelation.
Ahh! see what happens! But its a good time to be of good tidings and sharing.
Now!! would be a great time to be warm. Its not just me saying this but many
people now are spreading and proclaiming this message of Good tidings and
goodwill amongst your fellow brother.
If feel this is the message, in essence of this place.
Thanks Elmer, I really
appreciate your words of encouragement. I hope its the truth and nothing but
with what I'm finding and publishing. I hope it helps mankind in this journey.
However just by judging things, even with the best and the most truthful
presentation, it wouldn't make much difference really, you might as well get it
over and done with. In the next 16 days or so should be interesting. Even coming
down to around the seventh week date around the 21st August following a seven
pattern. I did a study on it in the Moses prophecy thread. There are multiple
sevens happening here not just what I published. UB birth date of Jesus, 21st
August 7BC. Anyway that's what it says. Now everything in the test as I'm
realizing is following this sevens thing.
Its a time/space of phenomena of activation and response.
I hope you understand what I'm saying or can relate to it. But then again its
good that all is published so you can test it for yourself. That's is good and
that I would want.
Elmer I hope you are finding things to.
Hey what do you think of the of the date of proclamation of the test. 4th July
Independence Day! I didn't realize that until today, 4th July wow realizing it
today, that was not a conscious plan then, all inspired in the moment! How
fitting! All in the seven pattern, a good milestone in history to begin from.
Also when you mentioned being whisked away, I've been thinking about that. Just
today! I was thinking about it. I thought it would be like going on a long
holiday for 3 months (heaven time) totally refreshed and imbibed, and return in
the 2 earth days or something. I actually thought that, doing the job and then
suddenly I'm gone and others. Lets say it really happens as spoken!! Wouldn't
that be interesting!
And then to expand further.
What if that occurred where there is a mass exodus as prophesied and the
remaining people suddenly realized that we were speaking the truth and then
began this almighty search for the truth and the lost individuals, looking high
and low in there search which led them straight back here. A seven circle. he!
Wouldn't that be even more bizarre and all in line with prophecy!! I ask?
Anyway see what happens eh! If there is a choice Elmer, I'm going.
All the best for you in your endeavors and great blessings.
regards
sevens
Thinking it further based on
the information above.
Lets suppose that what has been uncovered in the current timeline is
true and correct and it occurs.
Similar to Elmer, I believe a rapture could be in the making.
But lets see what happens, as you see this forum is full of
speculation and this another speculation based on research, but in
this case we a live situation, a true event brewing. One of which
needs real attention.
If this is correct, what I propose occurs in the 7th week. I feel a
rapture event could possibly happen as stipulated in revelation. I
feel that at the end of the first stage of this process will finish
with the rapture, when it says that the elect will be called up to
heaven. Two people are present and then suddenly one disappears??
Heaven knows that the current presentation of truth and its
parallels is not enough to get mans attention except for the faith
sons, they respond. So an event has to occur in order to get mans
attention.
I feel this would be reflected by the Father through a revelation
and a demonstration or an act, an event, an impression and to
endorse the current discovery by his own his faith and love.
So now we enter into stage 2 of the judgment process.
Now in stage stage 2 is the period after the disappearance and
before judgement. This is the burning period of mans soul where he
realises the truth about everything, en masse planetary. Upon
realisation many will repent and show glad tidings and show love
towards one another, others will reject completely, a trying time
for man. This stage maybe a very short one, like 3 days perhaps, not
long as God will not waste time in this 2 stage, it will be swift.
Also in Isaiah, he mentions that in this period a large
investigation will be formed to find out the truth of what happened
which leads them straight to this kind of information, the Testamony
of man. Upon discovery man will research this rapidly and get his
house into order, quick smart. Least he a second chance but only the
sincere will be considered.
At the conclusion of this second stage
I f feel, The Seventh Angel will call the end of the
Seventh/Sevenfold mystery at the beginning of judgment and the holy
race and the Elect will come down with the Angels and then the
process of final judgment begins, the 3rd and last stage.
The ones that reject the truth completely and who are out right evil
will run to the hills as the earth changes occur, the ones that are
saved will be evacuated. I think after 3 years they will return to a
New earth and heaven which means alterations on that level to.
It appears to be 2 fold stage of mercy, The opportunity offered in
these earlier message before the rapture of the elect stage one,
then stage 2 the decision time for mankind. Stage two will be the
last opportunity, I feel. However I'm not sure in stage 2 because in
the bible does speak about people who will ask for mercy and non is
given out? Could this be after judgment?
Anyway that's I what I say, its in faith and in truth. But as I
think about it and reflect on all our experiences I feel there is
definite Paradise pattern in the time timeline that appears to have
all the characteristics as described in all the texts.
What a journey of exploration and discovery. There is no mystery
like this one.
And what if???? what if? Lets see if it happens! Stupendous. What a
Testamony of mans faith in the Gods words, all of them. What a life
raft that will become and it will be true and happen.
Its could possibly be around the corner, around the 21st - 28th
August, around about that time.
All I say to everyone, be very vigilant, remember good works with a
sincere heart and forgiveness will all go along way. Its a test of
attitude for mans survival, a test of faith in God.
So Jesus birthday is on the 21st August 7BC, So in the true
timeline so 2006 less 7 years is 1999 in accordance to UB Jesus' birthday.
That's is 2000 years exactly. Its like the start of the new year with
festivities in the new world, based on this date. The day of change. Probably!
Next year in 2007 will be 2000 the new millennium, next year in the new world.
Egyptian Book of the Dead speaks about when God, Ammam comes back in the 21st
Pylon/century. In effect this year is the real end of the millennium based on
Jesus' birthday.
Just remember the saving attitude in all of this the Jesus message, simple
forgiveness for another and glad tidings with good will and acknowledgement of
the Father with desire but even half-heartedness is ok to.
food for thought.
all the best
sevens
Going on a hunch,
I did further calculations, but wil contumualy revised but s far.
Looking at the above calculations in accordance to the test
proclamation.
4th July test
proclamation,
48 day interim = 7 weeks = the 7th week is around 15/16th August
06 - 21st/22nd August 06, Enoch pattern in the seventh week = 7
week
21st August Jesus Birthday, the 49th day 7x7 pattern.
However we are one day out and that is taken into account by the
extra day in July being the 31st.
Here is the Enoch Seventh Connection
1 Enoch 92:l2 Afterwards, in the seventh week a perverse
generation shall arise; abundant shall be its deeds, and all its
deeds perverse. During its completion, the righteous shall be
selected from the plant of everlasting righteousness; and to
them shall be given the sevenfold doctrine respecting
every part of his whole creation,
Now if we break it down into actual dates and weeks from July 4th
remembering there an extra day in July being the 31st then we have
this which does equal the take into account and equals the the 49
day period
4 july -11th
12-18
19-25
26-1st aug
2-8
9-15
16-22th aug, the 7th week period as discussed in... Enoch in
the seventh week,...and ..During its completion, the righteous
shall be selected from the plant of everlasting righteousness; and
to them shall be given the sevenfold doctrine respecting every
part of his whole creation.
I hope this makes it a bit more accurate and does demonstrate the 7
x7 pattern in the time, date, weeks, proclamation, and in prophecy.
Now, if this is right and I'm not just getting carried away, in this
period 16-22 aug, we could possibly witness a rapturous event, the
beginning of a process of Judgement or some change or something. Its
quite possible. Just be alert.
Its all perplexing seeing a pattern like this and wandering if there
is something to it , or is it coincidence. We should find out soon.
regards
sevens
Jesus Birthdate from the
Urantia Book, the 49 day from the 4th July, The test - 21st August
7BC, Jesus birthdate 7x7=49 Seven pattern, in the seven week.
These wise men saw no
star to guide them to Bethlehem. The beautiful legend of the star
of Bethlehem originated in this way: Jesus was born August 21
at noon, 7 B.C. On May 29, 7 B.C., there occurred an
extraordinary conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn in the
constellation of Pisces. And it is a remarkable astronomic
fact that similar conjunctions occurred on September 29 and
December 5 of the same year.
The conjunction is proven by Jet propulsion Labratory.
Jesus Birthdate from the
Urantia Book, the 49 day from the 4th July, The test - 21st August
7BC, Jesus birthdate 7x7=49 Seven pattern, in the seven week.
These wise men saw no
star to guide them to Bethlehem. The beautiful legend of the star
of Bethlehem originated in this way: Jesus was born August 21
at noon, 7 B.C. On May 29, 7 B.C., there occurred an
extraordinary conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn in the
constellation of Pisces. And it is a remarkable astronomic
fact that similar conjunctions occurred on September 29 and
December 5 of the same year.
The 3 conjunctions has been proven by Jet propulsion Labratory.
7 Walk, my children,
in long-suffering, in meekness, honesty, in provocation, in grief,
in faith and in truth, in reliance on promises, in illness, in
abuse, in wounds, in temptation, in nakedness, in privation,
loving one another, till you go out from this age of ills,
that you become inheritors of endless time. (The new Epoch.)
8 Blessed are the just who shall escape the great judgment,
for they shall shine forth more than the sun sevenfold,
for in this world the seventh part is taken off from
all, light, darkness, food, enjoyment, sorrow, paradise, torture,
fire, frost, and other things; he put all down in writing,
that you might read and understand. (Could this mean
that the Sevenfold team is evacuated brfore the event?)
and further evidence from Enoch of change of its theme with some
of my own thoughts.
10And as the inflammation of their bodies shall be great, so
shall their spirits undergo a change for ever.
11For no word which is uttered before the Lord of spirits shall
be in vain.
(This research is no joke and is not a waste of time, This is also
repeated in the dead sea scrolls, the Bible and in the Egyptian
Book of the Dead, a 3 way parallel. Don't take this to lightly.)
12Judgment has come upon them, because they trusted in
their carnal revelry, and denied the Lord of spirits.
13 In those days shall the waters of that valley be changed;
for when the angels shall be judged, then shall the heat
of those springs of water experience an alteration.
14And when
the angels shall ascend, (Rapture, the first
stage) the water of the springs shall again undergo a change,
and be frozen. (The
knowledge changes) Then I heard
holy Michael answering and saying,(Jesus)
This judgment,
with which the angels shall be judged, shall bear testimony
against the kings, the princes, and those who possess the
earth. (The testimony being written all beforehand as
discovered in the simple search for Eden/Atlantis released, on the
go. Before the event. This is the testamony.)
15For these waters of judgment shall be for their
healing, and for the death of their bodies.
But they shall
not perceive and believe that the waters will be changed,
and become a fire, which shall blaze for ever.
Take big note of that!!!!!
(All the books and The Urantia Book and the Testamony.)
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line 27: John the Baptist was born March 25, 7 B.C., in accordance
with the promise that Gabriel made to Elizabeth in June of the previous year.
For five months Elizabeth kept secret Gabriel's visitation; and when she told
her husband, Zacharias, he was greatly troubled and fully believed her narrative
only after he had an unusual dream about six weeks before the birth of John.
Excepting the visit of Gabriel to Elizabeth and the dream of Zacharias, there
was nothing unusual or supernatural connected with the birth of John the
Baptist.
line 133: These wise men saw no star to guide them to Bethlehem.
The beautiful legend of the star of Bethlehem originated in this way:
Jesus
was born August 21 at noon, 7 B.C.
356 days in the year, difference between Jesus' birth and John the Baptist is
six months. 178 days, 6 months, in the seventh month begins change
At the noontide birth of Jesus the seraphim of Urantia,
assembled under their directors, did sing anthems of glory over
the Bethlehem manger, but these utterances of praise were not
heard by human ears. No shepherds nor any other mortal creatures
came to pay homage to the babe of Bethlehem until the day of
the arrival of certain priests from Ur, who were sent down from
Jerusalem by Zacharias.
These priests from Mesopotamia had been told sometime before
by a strange religious teacher of their country that he had a
dream in which he was informed that "the light of life"
was about to appear on earth as a babe and among the Jews.
And thither went these three teachers looking for this
"light of life." After many weeks of futile search in
Jerusalem, they were about to return to Ur when
Zacharias met them and disclosed his belief that Jesus was the
object of their quest and sent them on to Bethlehem, where
they found the babe and left their gifts with Mary, his earth
mother. The babe was almost three weeks old at the time of
their visit.
Interesting all beforehand as seen from Ur, !!Sevenfold country!!
I would say that was the Sevenfold connection directly connected
to Jesus in acknowledgement, Sevenfold in ultimacy being connected
to Ancients of Days and The Trinity of Paradise. From Ur eh!,
strange and religious!
Here is the beginninng of a religion inspired by a dream in Ur.
This founder of a new
religion was a virile and adventurous youth, who, on his first
pilgrimage to Ur in Mesopotamia, had learned of the traditions
of the Caligastia and the Lucifer rebellion--along with many other
traditions--all of which had made a strong appeal to his
religious nature. Accordingly, as the result of a dream
while in Ur, he settled upon a program of returning to his
northern home to undertake the remodeling of the religion of his
people. He had imbibed the Hebraic idea of a God of justice,
the Mosaic concept of divinity. The idea of a supreme God was
clear in his mind, and he set down all other gods as devils,
consigned them to the ranks of the demons of which he had heard in
Mesopotamia.
He had learned of the story of the Seven Master Spirits as the
tradition lingered in Ur, and, accordingly, he created a
galaxy of seven supreme gods with Ahura-Mazda at its head.
These subordinate gods he associated with the idealization of
Right Law, Good Thought, Noble Government, Holy Character, Health,
and Immortality.
From just a dream and a desire. You know in the ultimate sense
Chrsitianity bore out of this mans dream. I know 600BC there was an
accumulation of Arch Angels on this planet for 100 year period in
that time 5 or 6 world religions began as well as Plato.
then you have the Ur scenario again, it seems to be a very
spiritualy and influential place.
Terah and his whole
family were halfhearted converts to the Salem religion,
which had been preached in Chaldea; they learned of Melchizedek
through the preaching of Ovid, a Phoenician teacher who proclaimed
the Salem doctrines in Ur. They left Ur intending to go directly
through to Salem, but Nahor, Abraham's brother, not having
seen Melchizedek, was lukewarm and persuaded them to tarry at
Haran. And it was a long time after they arrived in Palestine
before they were willing to destroy all of the household gods they
had brought with them; they were slow to give up the many gods of
Mesopotamia for the one God of Salem.
the you have this perpetuation and commonality with Mesopotamia and
Egypt.
line 44: 5. Elohim.
In Kish and Ur there long persisted Sumerian-Chaldean groups who
taught a three-in-one God concept founded on the traditions of the
days of Adam and Melchizedek.
This doctrine was carried to Egypt, where this Trinity was
worshiped under the name of Elohim, or in the singular as Eloah.
The philosophic circles of Egypt and later Alexandrian teachers of
Hebraic extraction taught this unity of pluralistic Gods, and
many of Moses' advisers at the time of the exodus believed in this
Trinity.
But the concept of the trinitarian Elohim never became a real part
of Hebrew theology until after they had come under the political
influence of the Babylonians.
and here is more information about Ur and the Salem priests there.
Note in the last the message from Ur.
line 134: The
variegated picture of Deity presented in the Book of Job was
the product of more than a score of Mesopotamian religious
teachers extending over a period of almost three hundred years.
And when you read the lofty concept of divinity found in this
compilation of Mesopotamian beliefs, you will recognize that it
was in the neighborhood of Ur of Chaldea that the idea of a real
God was best preserved during the dark days in Palestine.
line 136: Only at Ur did a voice arise to cry out the mercy
of God, saying: "He shall pray to God and shall find favor with
him and shall see his face with joy, for God will give to man
divine righteousness."
Thus from Ur there is preached salvation, divine favor,
by faith: "He is gracious to the repentant and says, `Deliver him
from going down in the pit, for I have found a ransom.' If any
say, `I have sinned and perverted that which was right, and it
profited me not,' God will deliver his soul from going into the
pit, and he shall see the light." Not since the times of
Melchizedek had the Levantine world heard such a ringing and
cheering
line 140: message of human salvation as this extraordinary
teaching of Elihu, the prophet of Ur and priest of the Salem
believers, that is, the remnant of the onetime Melchizedek colony
in Mesopotamia.
Here is the Jesus connection to Ur
line 180: The caravan
trip across the desert was not a new experience for these much-traveled
men. After Ganid had watched his teacher help with the loading of
their twenty camels and observed him volunteer to drive their own
animal, he exclaimed, "Teacher, is there anything that you
cannot do?"
Jesus only
smiled, saying, "The teacher surely is not without honor in the
eyes of a diligent pupil."
And so they set forth for the ancient city of Ur.
Jesus was much interested in the early history of Ur, the
birthplace of Abraham, and he was equally fascinated with the
ruins and traditions of Susa, so much so that Gonod and Ganid
extended their stay in these parts three weeks in order to afford
Jesus more time to conduct his investigations and also to provide
the better opportunity to persuade him to go back to India with
them.
It was at Ur that Ganid had a long talk with Jesus regarding the
difference between knowledge, wisdom, and truth. And he was
greatly charmed with the saying of the Hebrew wise man:
"Wisdom is the
principal thing; therefore get wisdom. With all your quest for
knowledge, get understanding. Exalt wisdom and she will promote
you. She will bring you to honor if you will but embrace her."
And what was happening around
600BC at the time of Plato, here is a glimpse.
line 111: About
six hundred years before the arrival of Michael, it seemed
to Melchizedek, long since departed from the flesh, that the
purity of his teaching on earth was being unduly jeopardized by
general absorption into the older Urantia beliefs. It
appeared for a time that his mission as a forerunner of Michael
might be in danger of failing.
And in the sixth century before Christ, through an unusual
co-ordination of spiritual agencies, not all of which are
understood even by the planetary supervisors, Urantia witnessed a
most unusual presentation of manifold religious truth. Through
the agency of several human teachers the Salem gospel was restated
and revitalized, and as it was then presented, much has persisted
to the times of this writing.
I feel this one is a very important one that explains much of what
is happening.
The archangel corps
of Nebadon is directed by the first-born of this order, and in
more recent times a divisional headquarters of the archangels has
been maintained on Urantia. It is this unusual fact that
soon arrests the attention of extra-Nebadon student visitors.
Among their early observations of intrauniverse transactions is
the discovery that many ascendant activities of the Brilliant
Evening Stars are directed from the capital of a local system,
Satania. On
Page 409
further examination they discover that certain archangel
activities are directed from a small and apparently insignificant
inhabited world called Urantia. And then ensues the
revelation of Michael's bestowal on Urantia and their immediately
quickened interest in you and your lowly sphere.
Do you grasp the significance of the fact that your lowly and
confused planet has become a divisional headquarters for the
universe administration and direction of certain archangel
activities having to do with the Paradise ascension scheme?
(This is a big revelation for me I just discovered this but look
at what Ive saying and look in reflection to this.)
link
This undoubtedly presages the future concentration of other
ascendant activities on the bestowal world of Michael and lends a
tremendous and solemn import to the Master's personal promise, "I
will come again."
quote:
"I will come again."
Look at that , "I will
come again" and this planet is a divisional headquarters for the
universal ascension scheme that has all to do with Paradise and
the Sevenfold...I was right! and right on track! The whole time,
this must be a confirmation and a message that Jesus is coming
again. Like he is saying this to us as I discover this in context.
In his own words again.
You know when I proclaimed the test I wasnt aware of this in my mind
at all. After all these weks and finding much I never expected to
find this last. Just to think all our converse upon this subject and
to find this direct message and to see my actions reflects perhaps
the action of the divisional headquarters of Paradise on Urantia
which is all to do wit the ascension/Sevenfold scheme.
Tantalising...."I will come again" Direct message form Jesus himself
in light of our conversation.
And sometimes we are visited by representatives of the Central
Universe Paradise,
The Most High
Assistants are a group of volunteering beings, of origin outside
the local universe, who are temporarily assigned as central and
superuniverse representatives to, or observers of, the local
creations. Their number varies constantly but is always far up
in the millions.
From time to time we thus benefit from the ministry and
assistance of such Paradise-origin beings as Perfectors of Wisdom,
Divine Counselors, Universal Censors, Inspired Trinity Spirits,
Trinitized Sons, Solitary Messengers, supernaphim, seconaphim,
tertiaphim, and other gracious ministers, who sojourn with us for
the purpose of helping our native personalities in the effort to
bring all Nebadon into fuller harmony with the ideas of Orvonton
and the ideals of Paradise.
Any of these beings may be voluntarily serving in Nebadon and
hence be technically outside our jurisdiction, but when
functioning by assignment, such personalities of the super- and
central universes are not wholly exempt from the regulations of
the local universe of their sojourn, though they continue to
function as representatives of the higher universes and to work in
accordance with the instructions which constitute their mission in
our realm. Their general headquarters is situated in the
Salvington sector of the Union of Days, and they operate in
Nebadon subject to the oversupervision of this ambassador of the
Paradise Trinity. When serving in unattached groups, these
personalities from the higher realms are usually self-directing,
but when serving on request, they often voluntarily place
themselves wholly under the jurisdiction of the supervising
directors of the realms of assigned function.
Hi I thought this was
interesting, its about change on the spritual levels due to
realisation and actualisation.
The reactions and
fluctuations of spirit gravity are ever true to the content of
spiritual values, the qualitative spiritual status of an
individual or a world.
This drawing power is instantly responsive to the inter- and
intraspirit values of any universe situation or planetary
condition.
Every time a spiritual reality actualizes in the universes,
this change necessitates the immediate and instantaneous
readjustment of spirit gravity.
Such a new spirit is actually a part of the Second Source and
Center;
and just as certainly as mortal man becomes a spiritized being, he
will attain the spiritual Son, the center and source of spirit
gravity.
Thats interesting to me that kind of says that upon realisation and
acuatlisation man experiences a new spirit and spirit gravity which
happens instantaneously, change. I feel this happens in the physical
through realisation and the right conditions.
I also noticed that this can happen to an individual or to a planet,
a world. Lets in our conversation if we are being led through the
scriptures and as we discover and realise and actualise in our
actions and lets say it the right conditions as for example found in
the scripts, could there be a spirit/gravity response as a result
that happens in an instant that could affect the planet?? I just
wonder about that in context to what we are talking about, an
actualisation in response could occur!!
I was thinking with in relation to the second coming. In essence
does man actualy initiate the second coming through his own
realisation and search, For example, man realises, actualises, the
right conditions and the spirit responds to a new spirit gravity
inaccordance to mans realisation. something like that.
Here is a little more about Epochal change in relation to our
planet.
When such an era is
attained on your world, no doubt Machiventa Melchizedek, now
the vicegerent Planetary Prince of Urantia, will occupy the seat
of the Planetary Sovereign;
and it has long been conjectured on Jerusem that he will be
accompanied by a son and daughter of the Urantia Adam and Eve who
are now held on Edentia as wards of the Most Highs of Norlatiadek.
These children of Adam might so serve on Urantia in association
with the Melchizedek-Sovereign since they were deprived of
procreative powers almost 37,000 years ago at the time they gave
up their material bodies on Urantia in preparation for transit to
Edentia.
Here is one from Jesus
directly about this time and note the "all beforehand"
"And now, as I am about
to leave you, I would speak words of comfort. Peace I leave with
you; my peace I give to you. I make these gifts not as the world
gives--by measure--I give each of you all you will receive.
Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be fearful. I
have overcome the world, and in me you shall all triumph through
faith. I have warned you that the Son of Man will be killed,
but I assure you I will come back before I go to the Father, even
though it be for only a little while. And after I have ascended to
the Father, I will surely send the new teacher to be with you and
to abide in your very hearts. And when you see all this come to
pass, be not dismayed, but rather believe, inasmuch as you knew it
all beforehand.
I have loved you with a great affection, and I would not leave
you, but it is the Father's will. My hour has come.
and here is another excerpt on instruction about expression of this
truth. I thought it was relevant.
Always respect the
personality of man. Never should a righteous cause be promoted by
force; spiritual victories can be won only by spiritual power.
This injunction against the employment of material influences
refers to psychic force as well as to physical force. Overpowering
arguments and mental superiority are not to be employed to coerce
men and women into the kingdom. Man's mind is not to be crushed by
the mere weight of logic or overawed by shrewd eloquence.
While emotion as a factor in human decisions cannot be wholly
eliminated, it should not be directly appealed to in the teachings
of those who would advance the cause of the kingdom.
Make your appeals directly to the divine spirit that dwells within
the minds of men. Do not appeal to fear, pity, or mere sentiment.
In appealing to men, be fair; exercise self-control and exhibit
due restraint; show proper respect for the personalities of your
pupils.
Remember that I have said: "Behold, I stand at the door and
knock, and if any man will open, I will come in."
here ia another about Jesus
There was one feature of the bestowal of Michael which was utterly
foreign to the Jewish conception of the Messiah, and that was the
union of the two natures, the human and the divine. The Jews had
variously conceived of the Messiah as perfected human, superhuman,
and even as divine, but they never entertained the concept of the
union of the human and the divine. And this was the great
stumbling block of Jesus' early disciples.
They grasped the human concept of the Messiah as the son of David,
as presented by the earlier prophets; as the Son of Man, the
superhuman idea of Daniel and some of the later prophets; and even
as the Son of God, as depicted by the author of the Book of Enoch
and by certain of his contemporaries; but never had they for a
single moment entertained the true concept of the union in one
earth personality of the two natures, the human and the divine.
The incarnation of the Creator in the form of the creature had
not been revealed beforehand. It was revealed only in Jesus; the
world knew nothing of such things until the Creator Son was made
flesh and dwelt among the mortals of the realm.
3. Has a subject who
has made the supreme decision, has entered into a solemn and
sincere betrothal with the Adjuster. The Adjuster looks beforehand
to the time of actual fusion and reckons the union as an event of
fact.
her is some more
same time innately harmonious. In the seven superuniverses,
however, there is great divergence; there is a wide gulf between
cosmic energy and divine spirit; therefore is there a greater
experiential potential for mind action in harmonizing and
eventually unifying physical pattern with spiritual purposes.
In the time-evolving universes of space there is greater divinity
attenuation, more difficult problems to be solved, and larger
opportunity to acquire experience in their solution. And this
entire superuniverse situation brings into being a larger arena of
evolutionary existence in which the possibility of cosmic
experience is made available alike to creature and Creator--even
to Supreme Deity.
In the evolutionary superuniverses energy-matter is dominant
except in personality, where spirit through the mediation of
mind is struggling for the mastery.
The goal of the evolutionary universes is the subjugation of
energy-matter by mind, the co-ordination of mind with spirit, and
all of this by virtue of the creative and unifying presence of
personality.
Thus, in relation to personality, do physical systems become
subordinate; mind systems, co-ordinate; and spirit systems,
directive.
Revealed religion is the unifying
element of human existence. Revelation unifies history, co-ordinates geology,
astronomy, physics, chemistry, biology, sociology, and psychology. Spiritual
experience is the real soul of man's cosmos.
The Supreme Being is not a direct
creator, except that he is the father of Majeston, but he is a synthetic
co-ordinator of all creature-Creator universe activities. The Supreme Being,
now actualizing in the evolutionary universes, is the Deity correlator and
synthesizer of time-space divinity, of triune Paradise Deity in experiential
association with the Supreme Creators of time and space.
When finally actualized, this evolutionary Deity will constitute the
eternal fusion of the finite and the infinite—the everlasting and indissoluble
union of experiential power and spirit personality.
says it all, all unifying.
These are lessons on how to be a creator. Exactly. In the latter are all the key
elements, we are being taught the fundamentals of creation. Its like our
education begins now becuase let me say that our future is related directly to
the administration of the new worlds beyond. Like time/space worlds came into
being in a instant so will the new worlds of the absonite perhaps.
or here another
Some of the amazingly fortuitous
conditions occasionally prevailing on the evolutionary worlds may be due to
the gradually emerging presence of the Supreme, the foretasting of his future
universe activities.
Most of what a mortal would call providential is not; his judgment of such
matters is very handicapped by lack of farsighted vision into the true
meanings of the circumstances of life.
Much of what a mortal would call good luck might really be bad luck; the
smile of fortune that bestows unearned leisure and undeserved wealth may be
the greatest of human afflictions;
the apparent cruelty of a perverse fate that heaps tribulation upon some
suffering mortal may in reality be the tempering fire that is transmuting the
soft iron of immature personality into the tempered steel of real character.
another
No one knows how long these twenty-four Urantia counselors will continue in
their present status, detached from the regular program of universe
activities.
They will no doubt continue to serve in their present capacities until some
change in planetary status ensues, such as the end of a dispensation, the
assumption of full authority by Machiventa Melchizedek, the final adjudication
of the Lucifer rebellion, or the reappearance of Michael on the world of his
final bestowal.
The present resident governor general of Urantia seems inclined to the opinion
that all but Machiventa may be released for Paradise ascension the moment the
system of Satania is restored to the constellation circuits. But other
opinions are also current.
For sure Ideo, I totaly
aggree, I sure do hope they get out there soon on top of the
location. Regardless of war, however I do sense that there is extra
momentum as man becomes concious of this discovery and through sheer
collective desire to discover, man will make this happen. In that I
have faith in man, that when he finds truth he locks on and doesnt
let go and researches.
i was so encouraged by Hoagland I hope that gives the project a good
boost. Lets see what inspired souls can do in this one. Somehow I
feel this will get support even from governments quietly. I reckon
man is desperately trying to find the answer before it becomes a
runaway situation and you know what, you and I are involved in the
answer just through our trailblazing research.
Thats makes a big difference as man becomes concious of the fact. If
its true, my personal hypothesis about this whole adventure
including the test and my calculations Heaven would have to respond
if heaven is part of the mystery. Else it would of been hot air and
a loss of credibility. So that the test for me, head on the chopping
block in what I say.
However God forbide I appear to be tempting the spirits, no way but
If Im finding this and interpreting with a honest heart using all
the information and if its right, then there would have to be a
response from heaven, going by faith and that is the test.
Even heaven doesn't even know the exact moment because the last piece of the key
is the Paradise response which is exclusive to The Father. When I mean the
Sevenfold response or call I mean the seventh Angel in Revelation in the Seventh
week in Enoch. The call and the selection. I suppose in the world of the heaven
its like everyone is in a ready state of activation but no one knows the time of
the call. But the conditions have appear to be ripe and be consistent to what
was foreseen some thousands of years ago by the prophets of old. How appropriate
is that the big mystery, unlocked by the words of the ancients, the Sevenfold.
There words today still ring loud as they saw outside of space/time of this
event then. Such honour for them, for there words to be used in bringing this
puzzle together today. As if they were alive today and present for the special
occasion, Like the Jedi all present in the halls of the Gods.
Like a whole universe coming alive at the sound of the call from Paradise, a
response. And now could be the time. A spontaneous moment that rivets through
the universe in a flash that rips the time/space fabric with infinity, like the
ripped curtain in the temple upon the death of Jesus. Something related to that.
Its happens in a moment and what occurs is a realisation a personal conviction,
unfortunately they are the fires of that valley which Enoch speaks about, I
reckon. But honestly if man had to awake to a message it would have to be done
in a way that man would notice. I suppose. But not in a destructive way, no way
man. But in a discovery or exploration or something on a revelatory way that is
open for all man to discover for himself in truth. In beautiful sublime and
splendid way that would appeal to the spirit of man. But I must there is also a
sever message for insincerity and evil and the perpetuation of it, like
terrorism, wilful murder and unrepentant. Things that should be put on the altar
and taken out of man.
Anyway just some thoughts. I know its not about the book but it could be related
to the location.
And he spake also a parable unto them; No man putteth a piece of a
new garment upon an old; if otherwise, then both the new maketh a
rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with
the old.
and
Genesis 4:23 And Lamech
said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of
Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my
wounding, and a young man to my hurt. 24 If Cain shall be avenged
sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.
25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called
his name Seth: (The originator of the Sethite
priesthood)[9] For God, said she, hath appointed me another
seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. 26 And to Seth, to him
also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: [10]
then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.
Enos was the first generation of the Sethite priesthood.
then we have Enoch
21 And Enoch lived
sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah: [5] 22 And Enoch
walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years,
and begat sons and daughters: 23 And all the days of Enoch were
three hundred sixty and five years: 24 And Enoch walked with God:
and he was not; for God took him. (translation), Fusion of the
personality and the thought adjuster, as one.
Is this the Enoch related to the Book of Enoch and its relevance of
today?
But what the Sevenfold tie in with Lamech, the Father of Noah. Could
we compare The Noah story in todays times regarding the second
coming? I would say it would some relevance. Look at the age of
Lamech when he died.
28 And Lamech lived
an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son: 29 And he called
his name Noah, [7] saying, This same shall comfort us
concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground
which the Lord hath cursed. 30 And Lamech lived after he
begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons
and daughters: 31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred
seventy and seven years: and he died
So thats Sevenfold and 777 years associated with The length of
Lamechs life. Seems like a Sevenfold link there somewhere. Some
parallel part of a larger connection. Looking at it further in
todays terms could it mean, Sevenfold the Father/Author of change
as represented as change. Faith sons the Noahs of todays forcoming
change. The you have Cain, Sevenfold, the Lamech 70 X sevenfold.
Like a larger Sevenfold scenario that is that part the 7 pattern
which is related to todays climate.
Remebering this is an ancient mystery and there is only one
scenario that will fulfill the mystery.
Judges 14:18 And the
men of the city said unto him on the seventh day before the sun
went down, What is sweeter than honey? and what is stronger than a
lion? And he said unto them, If ye had not plowed with my heifer,
ye had not found out my riddle.
Riddle Eh!
The Glory of the temple
in Haggai, It may have clues for todays scenario. note the months
and the dates, there may a clue.
Then there is this little piece on the 21st day, Im kind of
paralleling this with Jesus birthdate UB 21 Aust 7BC
Exodus 12:18 (Read all
of Exodus 12)
In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at even,
ye shall eat unleavened bread, until the one and twentieth day of
the month at even.
The latter seems to be a time period of the 14th - the 21st. Now
the seventh week is the test scenario is 15th -22nd, These date
period seems to be clear. Also the message seems to indicate a
time for personal obiedience and humulity.
food for thought.
Now in read the above in conteext and notice the Seven and also note
how it associates itself with coming out of the land of Egypt and is
held as an ordinance for generations, a time period to be respected.
Is that time period significant for todays scenario!.
15 Seven days shall
ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall put away
leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread
from the first day until the seventh day, (A time of self
reflection) that soul shall be cut off from Israel. 16 And in the
first day there shall be an holy convocation, and in the seventh
day there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner of work
shall be done in them, save that which every man [5] must eat,
that only may be done of you. 17 And ye shall observe the feast of
unleavened bread; for in this selfsame day have I brought your
armies out of the land of Egypt: therefore shall ye observe this
day in your generations by an ordinance for ever. (Here is the
time period) 18 In the first month, on the fourteenth day of
the month at even, ye shall eat unleavened bread, until the
one and twentieth day of the month at even. 19 Seven days
shall there be no leaven found in your houses: for whosoever
eateth that which is leavened, even that soul shall be cut off
from the congregation of Israel, whether he be a stranger, or born
in the land. 20 Ye shall eat nothing leavened; in all your
habitations shall ye eat unleavened bread.
Well on the 21st of this
month signifies an important time, like the Birthday of Jesus UB
21st Aug 7 BC. Also this date, this year marks the end of the
millenium entering in the 21st pylon or 21st Century on the 21st
August 06
21st Pylon link
referring the Egyptian Book of the Dead
THE OSIRIS AUFANKH,
WHOSE WORD IS TRUTH, SAITH: Hail, saith Horus, O Twenty-first
(21st century) pylon of the Still-Heart!
I have made the way. I know thee. I know thy name. I know
the name of the goddess who guardeth thee. "Sword that smiteth at
the utterance of its own name, stinking face, overthrower of him
that approacheth her flame" is thy name.
Thou keepest the hidden things of the avenger of the god, thou
guardest them. Amam is his name. He maketh the ash trees
(cedars) (Lebanon 1st Eden) not to grow, and the shenu trees
(acacias) not to blossom, (Egypt was affected) and preventeth
copper from being found in the mountain. (Obviously speaking about
Cyprus) The Tchatcha (Chiefs) of this Pylon are Seven Gods.
The timing looks especialy good to me. Im still amazed that the 4th
July test proclamation was an on the spur of the moment thing
without any calculaton. Its is only now that these calculations seem
to fit the 7 time period.
I find this timing perfect, I couldnt think of a better timing than
this calculation. I am amzed on how this falls into place. Now if
Rapture begins next week for those left behind, least you have texts
to go by, Thats why Im doing this in case it happens lest there is a
up to date record. But if it doesnt dont worry about it. On this
thread all Im doing is posting as much as I can find. After the
propbation period then the it all begins the second phase where the
process of Judgment begins, in this period there will be many that
will repent, its decision time.
The 3 stage is the final judgement process and then after that,
major earth changes begins and probably go for a few years.
Thats is what I see but it has to go through the test of time. In
case it happens, least there is accurate info as what to do and
sevenfoldbooks is there to that will be still online for the 2nd
stage.
Some people may laugh at this thread, but Im preparing for the worse
scenario and so should you in case it happens. I believe my
testamant.
No stuffing around and crapping on now, this is it! Time to get down
to the fundamentals of your soul and where isit at????, no flowery
words from here on in, its all hard core and the fires of the soul
may start soon, the great realisation and conviction of God, very
soon so just be vigilant and open to God and activate dont sit
around, start sharing.
And whatever you do, dont waste time with rejection and scorn on
this, no time for that crap.
Tommorrow for me is the 15th August which is the beginning of the
7th week from the 4th July. which ends on Jesus brithday August 21st
UB which is the 49th day(7x7) (considering one extra day, 31st
July). Overall thats 777. Also not in Enoch he speaks,
1 Enoch 92:l2
Afterwards, in the seventh week a perverse generation shall
arise; abundant shall be its deeds, and all its deeds perverse.
During its completion, the righteous shall be selected from the
plant of everlasting righteousness; and to them shall be given
the sevenfold doctrine respecting every part of his whole
creation,
During its completion,
Also note that Jesus' birthdate Aug 21st 7B.C.
So tommorrow begins the last week, the 7th Week of the real
Millenium on Jesus' birthdate. Which is the last day of the 1999,
The last day on August 21st. Its only now that man realises this and
what is attached to it.
Also the time period is in the bible 15th Aug - 22nd Aug celebrates
the completion of the temple in a seven day period. Certainly,
another 7 day period. And this date period starts tomorrow.
All the information and threads are in the above for study. Its
simply a journey for the search Eden in all the books, all of them
and documented.
Look where we are in only a few months of researching and sharing,
at the end of millenium ending with Jesus' birthday, than began from
a simple proclamation to the Ancients of Days of behalf of makind a
simple act of faith for help on the 4th July.
Then, looking back in time and just recently discovering the Sevens
connections in time is a real revelation of time/space. looking
forward in faith and then looking back, discovering the pattern of
perfection in the Sevens that entails is incredible.
This pattern span
days
weeks
years
milleniums
it has to be the pattern of the Ancients.
All 7 patterns equally spaced and all to do with time/space the
patterns of time within the realms of the Ancients of Days, The
Trinity of Paradise and The Father of all.
No Doubt Jesus is here. Have to be!
Surely this is the sign or some sign. This is a living in
time/space mystery, This would have to be the mystery of
mysteries. The living mystery of God.
All very compelling and remeber there was no calculation in this
only until recently when it dawned on me. So its all sincere and
released for testing as it should. But it all has to go through the
test of time but so far it looks good to me.
I cant see any pattern like this that comes out fomr all directions
from all sources of BC books.
It was all embedded by the collaboration of Melchizedek and the
prophets for a latter generation. I believe this very generation.
All it took was the right conditions in the right time period which
takes us back to our origins in discovery, literal and in the word
of God which includes all the books.
Also I know that Im hitting the tip of the iceberg. I know there is
heaps more information in the books. Its maybe to late to do an in
depth study now but there are solid pathways left for the journey.
Well this the best sign that I can find that signifies the beginning
of the end times and remember Eden of Cyprus is all attached to this
in the books.
I was going over some research I did in the Egyptian book of the
Dead.
I noticed the date 15th, I'm not sure if its significant but it does
speak of some change.
In between are some thoughts of mine.
I have filled the
Eye [of Ra] when it was helpless, and when it came not
on the festival of the fifteenth day.
(Interesting, we are speaking of a festival of the fifteenth day.
It mentions that the festival will not happen Gods Change. Also
could indicate a change in religion where old is replaced with new.
Change!! possibly.
I have weighed Sut in the celestial houses against the Aged One
who was with him.
(This is reflection of the future Lucifer (Sut) rebellion
adjudication by the Ancients of Days(The Aged ones), Jesus is
involved.)
I have equipped Thoth in the House of the Moon-god, when
the fifteenth day of the festival come not.
I have taken
possession of the Urrt Crown.
In context, but read the rest, it the whole story.
In reading the above I am baffled as to why the festival on the
fifteenth will not come.
I think what this signifies is that a festival is designed as
symbolic ritual of a past event of a future event such as the
festival of the completion of the temple, symbolic also for the last
days, complation of the saga, literaly. The festival lasts for seven
days. The Seven connection.
The reason why the festival wont come is because prophecy will be
fullfilled and at the beginning of this festival, on the fifteen. In
other words this prophecy will fullfill it purpose where there is no
need for the festival, it will not come. Like Jesus when he replaced
the laws with one commandment.
Same principle, Two things are achieved in this excerpt, the
adjudication of the Lucider rebellion and the gaining of the
soveriegnty of the planet, the Urrt Crown.
Yep, thats the way I see this. As a direct reference to the festival
of the fifteen.
To me that means fullfillment.
Heres is an excerpt in found in Exodus 12
15 Seven days
shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall put
away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened
bread from the first day until the seventh day, (A time of
self reflection) that soul shall be cut off from Israel. 16 And in
the first day there shall be an holy convocation, and in the
seventh day there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner
of work shall be done in them, save that which every man [5] must
eat, that only may be done of you. 17 And ye shall observe the
feast of unleavened bread; for in this selfsame day have I
brought your armies out of the land of Egypt: therefore
shall ye observe this day in your generations by an ordinance for
ever. (Here is the time period)
18 In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the
month at even, ye shall eat unleavened bread, until the one and
twentieth day of the month at even. 19 Seven days shall
there be no leaven found in your houses: for whosoever.
The first month of which year, the new millenium 2000 from the birth
of Jesus birthdate. August 21st BC 7BC. which today is 1999 almoat 7
days before the official universal millenium.
again the same feast period
1 Kings 12:32 (Read all
of 1 Kings 12)
And Jeroboam ordained a feast in the eighth month, on the
fifteenth day of the month, like unto the feast that is in
Judah, and he offered upon the altar.
6. THE ALEXANDRIAN
APPEARANCE
While the eleven apostles were on the way to Galilee, drawing near
their journey's end, on Tuesday evening, April 18, at about half
past eight o'clock, Jesus appeared to Rodan and some eighty other
believers, in Alexandria. This was the Master's twelfth appearance
in morontia form. Jesus appeared before these Greeks and Jews at
the conclusion of the report of David's messenger regarding the
crucifixion. This messenger, being the fifth in the
Jerusalem-Alexandria relay of runners, had arrived in Alexandria
late that afternoon, and when he had delivered his message to
Rodan, it was decided to call the believers together to receive
this tragic word from the messenger himself. At about eight
o'clock, the messenger, Nathan of Busiris, came before this group
and told them in detail all that had been told him by the
preceding runner. Nathan ended his touching recital with these
words: "But David, who sends us this word, reports that the
Master, in foretelling his death, declared that he would rise
again." Even as Nathan spoke, the morontia Master appeared
there in full view of all. And when Nathan sat down, Jesus said:
"Peace be upon you.
That which my Father sent me into the world to establish belongs
not to a race, a nation, nor to a special group of teachers or
preachers. This gospel of the kingdom belongs to both Jew and
gentile, to rich and poor, to free and bond, to male and female,
even to the little children. And you are all to proclaim this
gospel of love and truth by the lives which you live in the
flesh. You shall love one another with a new and startling
affection, even as I have loved you. You will serve mankind with
a new and amazing devotion, even as I have served you. And when
men see you so love them, and when they behold how fervently you
serve them, they will perceive that you have become
faith-fellows of the kingdom of heaven, and they will follow
after the Spirit of Truth which they see in your lives, to the
finding of eternal salvation.
"As the Father sent me into this world, even so now send I you.
You are all called to carry the good news to those who sit in
darkness. This gospel of the kingdom belongs to all who believe
it; it shall not be committed to the custody of mere priests.
Soon will the Spirit of Truth come upon you, and he shall lead
you into all truth.
Go you, therefore, into all the world preaching this gospel, and
lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the ages."
When the Master had so spoken, he vanished from their sight. All
that night these believers remained there together recounting
their experiences as kingdom believers and listening to the many
words of Rodan and his associates. And they all believed that
Jesus had risen from the dead. Imagine the surprise of David's
herald of the resurrection, who arrived the second day after this,
when they replied to his announcement, saying: "Yes, we know, for
we have seen him. He appeared to us day before yesterday."
The end of the age process could begin in this fashion, most likely
the Elect and believers will approached in this fashion. Approached
by angels and probably by Jesus.
I liked this part, note how these words speak very loud and seem to
have meaning in context to the scenario.
quote:
I am with you always, even to the end of the ages."
Its just like Jesus speaking
to us now, for real. The above words just seem so relevant and real
to the scenario.
You know its a real test/faith experience but when you read those
words I just feel so much Love towards Jesus, like a really great
friend in a real intimate way where he just knows and loves your
soul and where you know and love his soul to.
I just feel that Jesus really desires to become our friend who
wishes to share all of himself with us as a fellow brother and
friend. The same goes with the Father. Paradise wants to be our
brother and friend.
Like a true loving relationship in full co-operation. Like great
friends, real buddies working together for a loving ideal that
incorporates all of mankind.
Im sure that's what Jesus really desires. If/when he comes in this
7th week time period, it will be a very intimate experience like as
described in the above. Like a personal visitation. Like a friend
visiting a friend and helping a friend in need.
You know this planet is very important to the whole universe and
Paradise. Many good things will come out of this planet that will
serve to benefit all the universes. Its a Paradise outpost that will
lead to many improvements in the ascension scheme. They really
desire all the communication circuits to be reconnected in full. They
want us back into the universal family of brotherhood.
And we could be in the actual moment to witness this actual event.
Remembering that August 21st is the end of the 20th Century, coming
into the 21st Century/Pylon. The new 21st Millennium. Based on the UB
Jesus Birthdate. That's the universal decree I reckon, based on the
birth date of the Planetary Sovereign.
That would make all sense to me. The new age at the beginning of a
new Century and a millennium according to the real birthdates of
Jesus. A decree like that would make sense and is consistent in the
Sevens reasoning.
This August 21st 06 could be real big day you know. I think III stay
up all night for that one.
Realising it just now.
the end and the
beginning day, Augsut 21st 06 is a beginning and an end day of
multiple time and reality patterns.
Its the end of the seventh week (seven pattern) Its the end of a
millenium to begin a new.
Well according to my reasoning dont be to surprised if something
occurs like multiple visitations on that day.
III say that in faith in accordance to the above reasoning, on the
run. On the 21st August dont be surprised that a visitation occurs.
So be vigilant on that day.
I know for me III be at a UB meeting, just a few of us get together.
Well you never know, what happens!! Step in faith, makes all sense.
just remember this one, this seems relevant.
Another clue: The
Gospel of Thomas 18 declares
"Tell us how our end will be." Jesus said, "Have you
discovered, then, the beginning, that you look for the end? For
where the beginning is, there will the end be. Blessed is he who
will take his place in the beginning; he will know the end and
will not experience death,"
This one has mulple patterns that relate to many things.
Like
Eden of Cyprus, discovering 1stEden/Atlantis/Maati which was the
beginning but we are rediscovering the end through what happened to
it.
Then you have the pattern in this scenario the end of the seventh
week, the end of an age, the beginning of a new. The end is
beginning and beginning is the end and does entails judgment of
disbelief and offense. It has all the same beginning and end
pattern. Its a perfect pattern in reality and in the word and has
all to do with time and space of realities.
It all fullfills my logic, the connections in this mystery.
On this actual date August 21st could be the selection of those of
the tree of life you know this could be the rapturous event.
remembering 1Enoch (sorry for the repeat but its important.)
1 Enoch 92:l2
Afterwards, in the seventh week a perverse generation shall
arise; abundant shall be its deeds, and all its deeds perverse.
During its completion, the righteous shall be selected from the
plant of everlasting righteousness; and to them shall be
given the sevenfold doctrine respecting every part of his whole
creation,
Given the Sevenfold doctrine officially in full. The UB. but also
the selection of the tree of life which means the truth could be the
rapture??
Also note: following this logic and thread, if this is correct, it
was all revealed beforehand to the actual date and year. I wonder
the time.
What could lead to the actual time and moment? searching it deeper?
For the moment I reckon 7.00 o'clock rise and shine would be a good
time or a time with a multiple of 7. That would be working on 24hr
time
0700, 7am
1400, 4.00pm
2100, 9.00pm
or 12.00 noon the birthtime of Jesus, thats a prime candidate.
I reckon 9.00pm be a good time being the 21st hour: rearrange the
numbers and you have 12.
But then 12noon or 9.00pm or it could happen in all these times.
The pouring out of the Spirit of
Truth provides the spiritual foundation for the realization of great
achievements in the interests of the human race of the bestowal world.
Urantia is therefore far better prepared for the more immediate realization of
a planetary government with its laws, mechanisms, symbols, conventions, and
language--all of which could contribute so mightily to the establishment
of world-wide peace under law and could lead to the sometime dawning of a real
age of spiritual striving; and such an age is the planetary threshold to the
utopian ages of light and life.
The meeting in the synagogue was just being opened by Abner and
Lazarus, who were standing together in the pulpit, when the entire
audience of believers saw the form of the Master appear suddenly. He
stepped forward from where he had appeared between Abner and
Lazarus, neither of whom had observed him, and saluting the company,
said:
"Peace be upon you. You
all know that we have one Father in heaven, and that there is but
one gospel of the kingdom--the good news of the gift of eternal
life which men receive by faith. As you rejoice in your loyalty to
the gospel, pray the Father of truth to shed abroad in your hearts
a new and greater love for your brethren. You are to love all men
as I have loved you; you are to serve all men as I have served
you. With understanding sympathy and brotherly affection,
fellowship all your brethren who are dedicated to the proclamation
of the good news, whether they be Jew or gentile, Greek or Roman,
Persian or Ethiopian. John proclaimed the kingdom in advance; you
have preached the gospel in power; the Greeks already teach the
good news; and I am soon to send forth the Spirit of Truth into
the souls of all these, my brethren,
who have so unselfishly dedicated their lives to the enlightenment
of their fellows who sit in spiritual darkness. You are all the
children of light; therefore stumble not into the misunderstanding
entanglements of mortal suspicion and human intolerance. If you
are ennobled, by the grace of faith, to love unbelievers, should
you not also equally love those who are your fellow believers in
the far-spreading household of faith? Remember, as you love one
another, all men will know that you are my disciples.
"Go, then, into all the world proclaiming this gospel of the
fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of men to all nations and
races and ever be wise in your choice of methods for presenting
the good news to the different races and tribes of mankind.
Freely you have received this gospel of the kingdom, and you will
freely give the good news to all nations. Fear not the resistance
of evil, for I am with you always, even to the end of the ages.
And my peace I leave with you."
quote:
I am with you
always, even to the end of the ages.
The hour is striking
for a rediscovery of the true and original foundations, of
present-day distorted and compromised Christianity—the real life
and teachings of Jesus. [195:9.5] (P.2083)
The time is ripe to witness the figurative resurrection of the
human Jesus from his burial tomb amidst the theological traditions
and the religious dogmas of nineteen centuries.
[196:1.3] (P. 2090)
Modern culture must become spiritually baptized with a new
revelation of Jesus’ life and illuminated with a new understanding
of his gospel of eternal salvation. [195:10.1] (P.
2084)
Notice the dramatic imagery used by the authors to
emphasize the significance of our times; they tell us the hour is
striking, that the time is ripe, and they speak of modern culture.
Can there be any doubt that now is the time for this new
revelation of Jesus? The fostering of this revival of Jesus and
his actual teachings is, in fact, the great goal of the Urantia
revelation.
What a transcendent service if, through this revelation, the
Son of Man should be recovered from the tomb of traditional
theology and be presented as the living Jesus to the church that
bears his name, and to all other religions! [196:1.2] (P. 2090)
We are told that this new revelation of Jesus will uplift our
world and bring about a new age of spiritual striving. Our
destiny is not final destruction, but rather a great new spiritual
renaissance that will completely transform and renovate the entire
planet. The Urantia Book gives us a prophetic clue to the coming
of this spiritual renaissance regarding secular education: “Even
secular education could help in this great spiritual renaissance
if it would pay more attention to the work of teaching youth how
to engage in life planning and character progression.”
[195:10.17] (P. 2086)
The authors clearly predict this new era and emphasize that this
spiritual renaissance is not in some far away future, it lies
directly ahead. One of the most positive and hopeful prophecies in
the entire book, foretelling a very encouraging
and exciting future was made seventy years ago:
“Urantia is now quivering on the very brink of one of its most
amazing and enthralling epochs of social readjustment, moral
quickening, and spiritual enlightenment. [195:9.2] (P. 2082)
The hour is striking for a rediscovery of the true and original
foundations of present-day distorted and compromised
Christianity—the real life and teachings of Jesus. [195:9.5]
(P.2083)
The time is ripe to witness the figurative resurrection of the
human Jesus from his burial tomb amidst the theological traditions
and the religious dogmas of nineteen centuries.
[196:1.3] (P. 2090)
Modern culture must become spiritually baptized with a new
revelation of Jesus’ life and illuminated with a new understanding
of his gospel of eternal salvation. [195:10.1] (P.
2084)
Notice the dramatic imagery used by the authors to
emphasize the significance of our times; they tell us the hour
is striking, that the time is ripe, and they speak of modern
culture. Can there be any doubt that now is the time for this new
revelation of Jesus? The fostering of this revival of Jesus and
his actual teachings is, in fact, the great goal of the Urantia
revelation.
What a transcendent service if, through this revelation, the Son
of Man should be recovered from the tomb of traditional theology
and be presented as the living Jesus to the church that bears his
name, and to all other religions! [196:1.2] (P. 2090)
We are told that this new revelation of Jesus will uplift our
world and bring about a new age of spiritual striving. Our
destiny is not final destruction, but rather a great new spiritual
renaissance that will completely transform and renovate the entire
planet. The Urantia Book gives us a prophetic clue to the coming
of this spiritual renaissance regarding secular education: “Even
secular education could help in this great spiritual renaissance
if it would pay more attention to the work of teaching youth how
to engage in life and character progression.” [195:10.17] (P.
2086)
The authors clearly predict this new era and emphasize that this
spiritual renaissance is not in some far away future, it lies
directly ahead. One of the most positive and hopeful prophecies in
the entire book, foretelling a very encouraging and exciting
future was made seventy years ago: “Urantia is now
quivering on the very brink of one of its most amazing and
enthralling epochs of social readjustment, moral quickening, and
spiritual enlightenment. [195:9.2] (P. 2082)
and
“The call to the adventure of building a new and transformed
human society by means of the spiritual rebirth of Jesus’
brotherhood of the kingdom should thrill all who believe in him as
men have not been stirred since the days when they walked about on
earth as his companions in the flesh.” [195:10.6] (P. 2084)
Hi here is another link that I found
that was written sometime ago.
The author makes reference to the Stone cut of the Mountain mentioned in Daniel.
He makes reference to Russia but personaly I believe it has all to do with
Atlantis/Eden of Cyprus and what will be found upon closer look.
It interesting reading this written sometime ago and seeing all the developments
in reflection to where we are at now and what we have researched.
How are you? Thanks for your reply, I appreciate you support. I know what your
are saying and you are right. I know I'm am very reckless in what I post
releasing all. I know, its a risk I run. But in the large scheme of things I'm a
nothing so that's why they take no notice of what I'm saying, because I am
insignificant
Also I sense we are in a different time to that of the Cathars. As I read in the
Bible and DSC I find that there is special protection from God in these days for
those promoting God outside the square through reality shaping of the Angels.
The only other window I can think other than Aug 21st is the Actual expedition
of Cyprus next month and what they find on the Hill. That is the only other sign
I can identify other than Aug 21st. If nothing occurs with either, then I'm all
out of signs. After that I don't know what to think. Most likely III admit that
I was wrong and apologies for any undue stress I put man under in this time
period.
Man will be let of the hook as far as I'm concerned and that will be it. Oh
well! No more spending hours and hours and hours on this track. If nothing
occurs than all this work was wasted. Oh well another loss and disappointment
what's new. You know you get used loss after a while becomes a norm in this life
working on this level. Its not like the corporate world, its the opposite where
victory is based purely on the bottom-line nothing to do with good character or
love for one another.
Slowly but surely the corporate perception/deception is destroying the soul of
man into a world of lust, greed and financial entanglements through debt. No man
power left for free thinking and exploration as that is gone through stress of
debt. Its ingenious this world system and its disastrous effects on the spirit
man, the individual. The power families really screwed man. Sounds like a
Nodites system.
Also me being a nothing, those in power will not perceive or believe and laugh
at what I say because they are over confident and drunk on power so they don't
see, so in essence because they wont consider they will not perceive and they
blindside themselves, so in that lays my protection. They are to busy screwing
and devising ways of ripping off the next guy to even look at this.
Also what if...The research is right. no will listen until many people are taken
up then the information that is released beforehand will be sort after. At this
stage I can say anything I want and there will be no effect in this time period
from anyone.
However it becomes a different story when we are not here and those left behind
need the information then it becomes a matter of sheer survival.
Anyway Briwyns all I say is that according to studies this Aug 21st looks
interesting. See what happens. If not this Aug 21st, then it may lay in the
expedition. If not well I'm done for this study.
You know on Stabilized planets religionists are sort after and looked after by
the state where they are left independently to research for the betterment of
its society. Here religionists are virtually treated like scum by all even by
obsolete tradition bound religions. All free thinkers outside the system are
regarded on this planet as a piece of scum and treated accordingly because the
system cannot control the spirit of God imbibed in man. That's an example of the
arrogance of this system.
Also I want to say that I like the Atlantis rising forum. Whilst we all have
different ideas I like the people here and I appreciate everyone for giving me
space to express and being kind.
Thanks Briwyns for you help in guidance and trying to help me out in being more
aware. All the best for you!
Thanks
kind regards
sevens
Hi Ishtar.
To be honest I don't know much about the Jehovah witness. I only made that
comment in light of them trying to spread an important message and apparently
they are talking the same stuff but with more urgency. There going everywhere
around here like a quickening. But to little, to late. About there techniques or
even doctrine I don't know to much about.
I probably got a little excited and annoyed in my last post. Don't worry about
that. Blowing off steam.
I wish I was a little more positive at the moment.
regards
sevens
Hi Ishtar again. I read a little deeper your experience with the
JW. I'm shocked they resort to mindal techniques to keep control of there
members in that way and to reject because someone wants to take the research
further. I would say that is a not witness of Jesus and therefore does represent
his complete ideal.
Simple as that. Jesus never resorted to mindal control techniques. Jesus even
admonished the disciples for stopping people talking about himself and
researching.
I believe that any religion that has to control there members in such a way is
not worthy to be called a church of Jesus. That's for sure.
Jesus never resorted to techniques so to must churches be mindful never to
resort to evil methods like that. Also they have to be aware that for those who
promote this attitude willingly and knowing the truth will be rejected from the
kingdom. Because they do what they know in there hearts, is wrong against his
fellow brother. In other words the motive is wrong.
Anyway I'm glad we are exploring this stuff...freely without consequence or fear
of rejection. That's the real spirit of God to explore and search without fear.
A 90 year old fellow UB book reader just recently got excommunicated out of his
Baptist church for not paying his dues because of a lack of money. So they
kicked him, coldhearted bloody church. What a pack ass holes for doing that and
again another terrible witness of Christianity at play.
See this is exactly the rubbish that will be purged out of the churches, all of
them who behave in this way. This evil 10% crap where people have to pay under
fear or else they simply don't make it to heaven is just a load of rubbish. Let
man give what he wants to give out of the goodness of his heart and let that be
the standard. If a church is doing there job they don't need to ask for money.
People will give money because they are inspired by no fear truth.
This is the point of the second coming. To banish and purge all this crappy/evil
money crap motivation stuff which is so against the Jesus ideal, even in the so
called churches of Jesus, man still loads fear upon mans soul in order to
control his ass.
What happened to the simple message of Jesus and faith and belief. I never saw
bloody money in the equation!!! What they are doing today is only a disguise of
what the Catholics did many centuries ago by compelling people to pay for
forgiveness. Its all the same crap.
You know I do love people in the congregation but I hate all the other
iniquities regarding money promoted by churches in the pay/use scenario.
I can understand why Jesus got all angry at those money changers in the temple.
Yes Jesus love you and the Church does to, no worries. However, just pay your
10% or else your out of here.
Bastards for doing that to mans faith with the little he has left.
regards
sevens
You know Orion if it all
is right, correct and does come to pass in totality as seen and looking at the
current rhetoric. We could very well in an end times scenario as expressed in
Revelation. I can see where that is quite possible in a flash mate. However
Rapture would have to be the key.
Look I hate talking about this but it is important if its right. If its wrong I
will apologise and desist from this. I'd rather be wrong than right in this
scenario because the scenario does not look good from what I see.
If Rapture occurs there will allot of people missing from the planet in an
instant , that leaves a huge hole in running infrastructure particularly in the
West. If rapture happens overnight, the next day the guy might see that as a
sign and opportunity to advance in a greater way to promote and enforce his
ideas, he may see rapture as an confirmation of himself.
A self delusion based on ego, power, personal phenomena coupled with
misinterpretation of the scripts, remember that the 666 guy will be able to
produce some effect to impress. As he experiences this spiritual and physical
effect he will become more confident and deluded thinking that he is the one.
Also his brethren massages his ego, he thinks more and more everyday he is the
one. Oh no!! That's the last thing we want.
Its his personal spiritual experience that's why the answer has to come from
religion itself to correct this self delusional effect, secular cant deal in
this area, you cant have democracy talking to religious extremists group.
The only way to stop is for God to actually appear and say stop it. Because I
doubt they will listen to anything else and certainly not words of democracy
even though there is nothing with democracy.
I don't thing democracy will make no difference at all to the fundamental
problem of vain glorious egotistical delusions of world domination. Man o Man
look what we are talking about from a simple for Eden. Gees!
Anyway that's I reckon Orion, just going on gut feeling and faith.
All the best for you and great blessings eh!
sevens
By the way with the above
proclamation. That was done in desperation within my stress appealing to
Paradise for help in this circumstance for the guiding wisdom.
Since I don't see the churches doing anything about it, I thought I would
initiate the proclamation myself. I don't know if it was the right procedure,
going by faith with sincerity. But I've done this in no where to turn situations
before and I've had instant response through the realities of the moment.
I was thinking of plastering a few of the Islam sights with scripture but I'm
not sure if should do that. Would that make any different to people full of hate
towards us all.
Because they don't like us, any of us, the extreme elements not the goodly
islamist. There are good people in Islam but its this extreme element that are
so full of hatred.
Well this is the situation. How do we combat this? without violence. I don't
know, through the scripts?? does that make any difference now??
regards
sevens
Sevens
Sevens
I am new to this forum. I am a individual religionist and have been on
exploration through all the scripts regarding the location of Eden.
As I have journeyed along this journey on discovery of Eden in the text. I
have noticed that everywhere where Eden is mentioned there are references
attached to Judgement of man and his soul.
All references to Eden are found in all the books like the bible,
Psuedographia books and many other BC scripts.
I notice the Iranian president is claiming that end times will begin on Aug
22nd, for me I feel Aug 21st. Like tomorrow!!!!
But anyway. I was wandering how does he see himself in regards to his role
with the scenario of the End days?
I notice that the he is referencing scripts that speak of a great light above
Jerusalem where Gabriel enters the temple. I also notice that many people
think that he feels what this script represents is a nuclear bomb. on
Jerusalem. 4000 thousand years of culture just obliterated by evil.
lets go into the scripts and lets see what we can find regarding Terror.
Here is message from Enoch for those who discover terror.
[INDENT] [B]I Enoch 99:6
Woe to you, ye perverted in heart, who are watchful to obtain an accurate
knowledge of Evil, and to discover terrors.
No one shall assist you. [/B][/INDENT]
also
In the following verses gives you the timeline the time marker, 911
[INDENT][B]Isaiah 41 25 And there shall be upon every high mountain, and upon
every high hill, rivers and streams of waters in the day of the great
slaughter, when the towers fall.[/B] [/INDENT]
this is the verse straight after, it references the Sevenfold. I know what
this means. Sevenfold is the Father, not a bomb on Jerusalem.
[INDENT][B]26 Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun,
and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in
the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the
stroke of their wound[/B].[/INDENT]
then in Isaiah 33, note the mentions of the scribe in relation to the towers
and his hiding.?? Its seems very obvious of whom the scriptures speak of.
In the following is about the scribe or who organized the 911
[INDENT] [B]18 Thine heart shall meditate terror. Where is the scribe? where
is the receiver where is he that counted the towers? [/B][/INDENT]
and again a direct reference to those who discover terrors.
[INDENT] I Enoch 99:6
[B]Woe to you, ye perverted in heart, who are watchful to obtain an accurate
knowledge of Evil, and to discover terrors.
No one shall assist you.[/B] [/INDENT]
So as you can Paradise Trinity is not happy as seen regarding all terrorism.
Im telling you we are in the end times very soon, and all man, no matter what
religion will be judged in accordance to his intent and motivation toward his
fellow brother which means all mankind not just Islam or Christianity, all
religions all man, no one is safe. The Father is not happy with the spiritual
arrogance of all and the presumption by those who think they are the one.
All mankind will be judged.
The Paradise Trinity desires all man to stop in the discoveries of Terror. Or
else he will be personally questionable to Ancients of Days who are here to
Judge the soul of man. This command from Paradise proceeds all terrorist
commands given by religious authority. Anyone who disobeys this command from
Paradise will be dealt with severely.
This command goes for all man, all countries, all governments and groups.
Any willful violence against mankind will not be tolerated and for those who
teach and influence the young to kill others will be punished very, very
severely.
You can take no notice and scorn, but are you willing take that risk.
All have been identified though the scripts. The scripts are quite clear of
who, where and when and all leaders who involve themselves in this activity
are on notice!!!!
Have a good think about it as this has been hidden from you, until now.
I say take delusional thoughts out of your mind, stop planning violence if
that is the intent and motivation because no one will help you. Its the time
to humble all ourselves and to demonstrate towards our human brother respect,
honesty with sincerity.
Violence will have no part in the new world and the study of it will bring no
support from the Father and those who plan this will be abandoned.
Just take note and don't under estimate this, reconsider your options. Don't
listen to those who plan terror they will not profit you. Listen to the words
of love not fear or terror.
Anyway that the message take heed. We are only talking about getting along
with you fellow brother no matter who. We all have to learn this. We cant go
on to be reckless and thoughtless in our decisions and actions.
To get along is not hard, we have to do it or face the consequence.
Don't blow it who ever you are if you are planning terror, reconsider, the
Father will make his presence known and he will not tolerate violence now and
in the future.
Mullahs take a big note of this, listen the Father from within and his wisdom.
The time is closer than you think.
All the best
take note, this is a real appeal of urgency before the fact. Forget terrors
and the discovery of it. Forget it please, if you have been a part of some
act, just repent, right now in a personal way.
The Father wants peace amongst all his brothers. We can all be friends we have
the spirit of God within us.
Lets all be victories in respect for one another.
We can do that we all men and Sons of God, all of us.
Just remember Paradise representatives are here for judgment and if they see
destruction as being contemplated they will be completely offended by such an
evil action. They will respond with vengeance on those who perpetuate evil,
violence and terrors.
Just don't underestimate this I am closer than you think.
sevens
Doc.
Yes I know you're right but the problem its not me promoting some
world dominating religion through oppression of man will and
atomic bombs on Jerusalem. Its somebody else seeing this type of
thing and is manifesting it through a misinterpretation. Its not
me its the other guy and that's what I'm really afraid of. Its the
other guy trying to manifest prophecy and what I sense and what
I'm seeing in the picture is that I wouldn't be surprised if this
guy onto something like this and we are being led through the
scriptures to uncover this. Like God showing and warning us what
to look for and who its connected to. Its like a detective story.
That is what is seems to me. I haven't read the article yet but I
bet they are only stalling for time.
Well If where Israel right now. I would have all detectors out and
on the lookout for these fiends with that kind of weaponry and
have the patriot missiles on. I would be on high alert.
Sorry Doc for this but its the other guy who is deluded and
interpreting this for his own self glory in essence. He appears to
have all the traits. Short guy, big mouth. you know Daniel.
I hope I'm not getting paranoid.
But I feel this is shaping into to a fight for Western
Civilisation and I know we may be different but we are one when it
comes to our freedom of expressions. If we believe in something we
want to believe it freely and debate it with with a normal mind
without of retribution from whom?
I hope he hasn't got a bomb but it seems to quite for my liking
and there is too much confidence. Anyway see what occurs. I
already put my thoughts out there, see what happens maybe there
may a reconsidering, if the worst is being considered. This is an
all space/time journey of realities that appear to following some
track.
Well soon find out.
Maybe if we are perceiving a situation through faith in God maybe
The Paradise Trinity can help us out bit and offer a solution
where all parties can resolve there differences peacefully and in
full cooperation. I feel an miracle would have to happen for
people to respond and see the truth for what it really is and get
on as friends.
Anyway, Doc you can see rhetoric from the guy in Uran (Just add
the tia and you have Urantia) Funny thing. I know I had some
rhetoric myself but I had modify as I too judgemental and still
get a bit negative on the ills of man but I know in this society
we have intelligence and good knowledge with a good heart and we
can modify ourselves.
The nature of this is a really struggle for truth, beauty and
goodness amongst all the darkness. Look at the contrast in the
message of the same event. Discovered recently on the run while
looking for Eden.
You know what we perceive in the research is far more encompassing
that any other research regarding Eden and judgement. From what
I'm seeing there using scripts that mean something totally
different there not even close to the message of all of this. I'm
sure of it.
I feel quite confident we have truth and nothing but, that offers
a good opportunity for sincerity through free will not through
oppressed will. But there is an opportunity where we see is a
glimpse of the energy of the future perhaps that may prompt people
to see and think about things.
Its most likely this time that our great Jesus was talking about.
His loving message of deliverance, the last days, faith in him.
May be this is the time. When a correction will be made but in the
spirit as I see. In the loving spirit truth and righteousness
showing your fellow love and unselfishness.
God is not interested in laws and set prayers and looking to west
or North or South. He wants man to be guided by his love in his
heart for God and for his fellow brother through good action that
speaks louder than words. That's it. Very simple and easy message
and you can be half-hearted about it, relaxed, no fear like what
(I am that I am) said. All those good verses. So true and how I
forget and loose faith through stress.
See what lurks around the corner. That's what its like every day
is a new day but I know in the day we all be victories and will be
real happy and doing all kinds of things, we will all be connected
in friendship and and in communication through the circuits which
will be reopened during the inauguration of the new era of mankind
for the next thousands of years with civilisation progressing in
all kinds of things. All in harmony with the whole universe.
Reconnection can only happen with the right universal patterns of
behaviour that includes no violence at all.
I really appreciate your post. I am amazed by your own experience. I found
that quite interesting and fascinated by the numbers and the significants
placed on them.
Predicting something and seeing reality not quite turn out the way thought
must of left a little flat, I can understand that.
But I am encouraged by your thoughts on perhaps a major disaster was averted.
Well like you say, you never know what the outcome might of prevented.
I know a couple of days ago I posted an all time proclamation using all the
terror scripts found in Isaiah particularly using the towers verses that
clearly identifies Bin Laden and the scribes who organised the bombing of the
towers and also describes what there current situation is (hiding) and also
what there is destiny is.
Clearly, I also used the Enoch anti terrorists verses coupled with the
Proclamation of anti terrorism and violence my usual rhetoric.
Like entering the lions den but it has to be expressed. I feel there is more
chance that extreme elements may listen to these scripts as they point blank
about this destructive elements.
Maybe that might have some better effect coming from spiritual authority in
the scripts rather than the words democracy which isn't going to stop this
nonsense. Democracy is a good thing but it has to watch mediocrity;. Sometimes
the best minds can be voted out replaced by the not so good mind because of a
more effective media campaign.
Anyway all we can do is continue to be vigilant and keep on going for the good
fight for mankind and for his good culture, all cultures in harmony with our
spiritual friends Angels. I suppose that's work of all individuals, they all
form part of great organism of truth and the perpetuation of greater beauty
for his destiny.
By they way anyone can use those anti terror scripts. Its important that if
anyone is misinterpreting them for an evil use its must dealt with by its own
words, Religion dealing with itself with it own very words(scripts). If feel
that is how to do deal with this terrorism from its source using truth against
itself in re examination and in reconsideration.
Mind you on this forum I posted, I'm already restricted, these posts are only
one offs.
But if it gets the message across why not.
Thanks again for your words. I hope there was purpose in all of this. I felt
that if anyone had notion of planting a dirty bomb in Jerusalem that it should
be exposed immediately, out in the open. That way I felt the word may get
through if anyone reading it had sense and concern.
Just say if that was the case, that would be full on and a demonstration of
the power of the all the books in its truth and Eden, the very source of this
ultimate truth. The beginning of our origins. Right on!
Well until we see the outcome in future events in relation to all the words
spoken.
All the best Briwyns
sevens
Yes I agree all man everyone including all christians all
faiths we should stop killing each other right now.
No matter what doctrine there must be a better way than
this.
Has to be, we are all human and we have much in common.
Lets all get together and explore the truth as best as we
can by exploring each others knowledge and sharing in a
spirit goodwill. We all can do that there must be better
approach a better way that saitsifies all mankind and God
or Allah whatever one believes. No one takes that from
you, thats your personal relationship. Like we speak the
whole can speak like this.
I to want change and will come. for all of us and it will
be good be we get on somehow and lerarn to spiritual peace
and from the we all move forward.
If you look to the Eastern Med i mile below you will see
the origins of all of us. The message comes direct Eden
and there are many connection that throughout all the
books and Im sure including your various books.
This could the biiggest opportunity on the planet for all
of us all peace loving people. No matter who. Also whats
guiding this is seperate and independent but yet to all
faiths that believe in the One God. However you express
it.
The keys lay in Eden and the discovery of it. This is the
key thats bring all of us together as a brotherhood a
mankind thats welded together by the unifying effect of
Gods words throughout all the books, everyones books.
I think Islam studies the 1Book of Adam and Eve i think?
You have to correct me here. But I know these scripts are
not studied by Christians so I guess Islam may study this.
Here is some excerpts from it that speak specifically of
the intent regarding Eden.
extract
10:7-9 When Adam and Eve heard these words from God,
they cried a bitter cry; and Adam entreated God to let
him return into the garden, and look at it a second
time. 8 But God said to Adam, "I have made you a
promise; when that promise is fulfilled, I will bring
you back into the garden, you and your righteous
descendants." 9 And God ceased to commune with Adam
14:2 But God the Lord said to Adam, "Indeed I say
to you, this darkness will pass from you, every day I
have determined for you, until the fulfillment of My
covenant; when I will save you and bring you back
again into the garden, into the house of light you long
for, in which there is no darkness*. I will bring you to
it -- in the kingdom of heaven."
So as you can see with the discovery of 1stEden of the
Eastern Med and All the books pointing to the location and
another revelation that is also in prophecy has and will
come to pass further. The ultimate message behind this is
from Paradise Sevenfold where origins of the Sevenfold is
from Mesopotamia and Jerusalem all together at various
periods of time way in our past. As I understand it the
Book of Adam and Eve is over 2000 years.
I share this with you to create brotherhood but in the
light of exploration and discovery in the scripts everyone
of them including the Bible and the Quran. All of them.
I think Paradise wants us all to be enlightened through
exploration and discovery of oursleves and our origins.
This is being demonstrated as we speak. Its a journey for
mankind, all of mankind to explore and find Eden that will
lead to an expanded truth for the new world of the future
in peace.
regards
sevens
1 Enoch 92:l2 Afterwards, in the seventh week a perverse generation
shall arise; abundant shall be its deeds, and all its deeds perverse.
During its completion, the righteous shall be selected from the plant of
everlasting righteousness; and to them shall be given the sevenfold
doctrine respecting every part of his whole creation,
This does not mean violence towards one another be judgement belongs to the
Father of all, all man. The Sevenfold goes back to the the 1st Garden of
Eden, The truth of the Sevenfold is the ancient truth that was contuned down
through the many many thousands of years by the spiritual and physical
representatives of the Father of all creation.
The Sevenfold truth is truth behind Eden and is truth that is connected to
Planetary and universal truth. Any violence is not part of Sevenfold truth
and will never a part of it.
Begoin a search for the Sevenfold in the BC scripts and in addition look for
Eden in all the books, all of them they are all for your benefit. Not one
book all of them. If you begin this search for both the Sevenfold and Eden
you will find the truth. The real going on the spiritual world regarding the
Fathers business on this planet.
This is the day that all Sons of God and religions will have to re begin the
search for truth in all of the scripts. A search for all relgions by all
leaders in all the books as a brotherhood of mankind. No distinction of race
or of religion. Every man will have to stand for himself in hois intent and
motivation. All his worls will be counted in this judgment of his soul.
There is no truth in violence and in the discoveries of terror and you
should abandon all who desire this path of recklessness and self vain
gloriousness. But there is great truth and happiness to be found in the
Books of Heaven. All the books. The Father has embedded the complete truth
in every one of them and combine all the knopwledge of all the book and you
have presents mosaic of truth, beauty and goodness that displays love toward
all man.
Just take note that its The Fathers place to judge not for man to judge one
another. We have to all humble before the Father. All of us everyone of us,
no matter what religion. he have to bow our heads. Real humility and must
depart from mindal and physical violence towrads all man.
These are the standards of Judgement.
regards
sevens
Yes I agree all man everyone including all Christians all faiths we should
stop killing each other right now.
No matter what doctrine there must be a better way than this.
Has to be, we are all human and we have much in common. Lets all get
together and explore the truth as best as we can by exploring each others
knowledge and sharing in a spirit goodwill. We all can do that there must be
better approach a better way that satisfies all mankind and God or Allah
whatever one believes. No one takes that from you, that's your personal
relationship. Like we speak the whole world can speak like this.
I to want change and it will come. for all of us and it will be good but we
have to learn spiritual peace and from there we all move forward.
If you look to the Eastern Med 1 mile below you will see the origins of all
of us. The message comes direct Eden and there are many connection that is
throughout all the books and I'm sure including your various books. It
paints the whole picture, the end scenario but everyone has the piece of the
puzzle.
This could the biggest opportunity on the planet for all of us all peace
loving people. No matter who. Also what's guiding this is a separate and
independent but yet is related to all faiths that believe in the One God.
However you express it.
The keys lay in Eden and the discovery of it. This is the key that bring all
of us together as a brotherhood a mankind that's welded together by the
unifying effect of Gods words throughout all the books, everyone's books.
I think Islam studies the 1Book of Adam and Eve i think? You have to correct
me here. But I know these scripts are not studied by Christians so I guess
Islam may study this.
Here is some excerpts from it that speak specifically of the intent
regarding Eden.
extract
10:7-9 When Adam and Eve heard these words from God, they cried a bitter
cry; and Adam entreated God to let him return into the garden, and look at
it a second time. 8 But God said to Adam, "I have made you a promise;
when that promise is fulfilled, I will bring you back into the garden, you
and your righteous descendants." 9 And God ceased to commune with Adam
14:2 But God the Lord said to Adam, "Indeed I say to you, this
darkness will pass from you, every day I have determined for you, until
the fulfillment of My covenant; when I will save you and bring you back
again into the garden, into the house of light you long for, in which
there is no darkness*. I will bring you to it -- in the kingdom of
heaven."
So as you can see with the discovery of 1stEden of the Eastern Med and
All the books pointing to the location and another revelation that is also
in prophecy has and will come to pass further. The ultimate message behind
this is from Paradise Sevenfold and where the origins of Sevenfold is from
is in Mesopotamia and Jerusalem all together at various periods of time way
in our past. As I understand it the Book of Adam and Eve is over 2000 years.
I share this with you to create brotherhood but in the light of exploration
and discovery in the scripts everyone of them including the Bible and the
Quran. All of them.
I think Paradise wants us all to be enlightened through exploration and
discovery of ourselves and our origins. This is being demonstrated as we
speak. Its a journey for mankind, all of mankind to explore and find Eden
that will lead to an expanded truth for the new world of the future in
peace.
God of all is so smart. Every culture in whole region has each piece of
the puzzle in each others books and its only when we come together in the
spirit of mankind with respect from all, everyone together to explore the
puzzle and each others pieces in the books that the puzzle will come
together.
I believe that is related to the end times and its all to do with 1stEden
and a last opportunity for all mankind in obedience to universal commands of
right behavior. That goes for all as each soul is examined. No matter who.
What I propose in light of this is a shared study in the books you research
and the books I research but we focus on Eden where Adam and Eve lived and
all the associated texts and then we group them together and see what mosaic
it brings together. Then we look at the Evidence.
Letting the books speak for themselves and see what they say.
regards
sevens
Hi here is another clue to the end times Again this is a book that was
excluded out of the bible. Its not studien enmasse in other religions but
its a clue that I share with you about the end times. Gives us cklues to
what will approach and the attitude we must have.
I share in the of goodwill to see what I see and we can share commonalities
in what the construct is.
In bold what I think are important clues. This has nothing to do with whose
right or wrong. This is straight research about this time for all brothers
of the world who have an opportunity in choice. In brackets are my thoughts.
1Enoch 80
1He said, O Enoch, look on the book which heaven
has gradually dropped down; (86) and, reading
that which is written in it, understand every part of it. ( A
new book written in the hands of God and given to man directly.)
2Then I looked on all which was written, and understood all, reading
the book and everything written in it, all the works of man;
3And of all the children of flesh upon earth, during the generations of
the world.
4Immediately after I blessed the Lord, the King of glory, who has thus
for ever formed the whole workmanship of the world.
5And I glorified the Lord, on account of his long-suffering and
blessing towards the children of the world.
6At that time I said, Blessed is the man, who
shall die righteous and good, against whom no catalogue of crime has been
written, and with whom iniquity is not found.
( clearly tells us that good behaviour between all man is required. Thats
all not one side or the other. The discoveries of Terrors and the use of
them is a crime and no one will help you.)
7Then those three holy ones caused me to
approach, and placed me on the earth, before the door of my house.
8And they said unto me, Explain everything to Mathusala your son;
and inform all your children, that no flesh shall be
justified before the Lord; for he is their Creator. (God is the
no respector of any persons. All will be judged.)
9During one year we shall leave you with your children, until you shalt
again recover your strength, that you may instruct
your family, write these things, and explain them to all your children.
(Written beforehand, Found in the scripts and revealed before the time.
There is a definate period of probation.)
But in another year they shall take you from the
midst of them, and your heart shall be strengthened; for the elect shall
point out righteousness to the elect; the righteous with the righteous
shall rejoice, congratulating each other; (Yes before the actual
event of Judgement the Elect who share the message of 1stEden ..Truth
Beauty and Goodness shall be taken. That include all man who behave in the
right way with love in his heart and humbles himself.)
but the sinners with sinners shall die, (Those who dont listen and
reject without investigation and continue to defy and continue wilfull sin
against mankind shall be left behind for judgement.)
(Again the rewards for good motivation of peace and goodwill towards your
brother is rewarded with life after passing through the judgement
successfully. This applies for all people, no matter who.)
10And the perverted with the perverted shall be
drowned. (From the 1st post we know what perversion and willful
destruction upon mankind. This goes for man who does this. Paradise cannot
accept violence.)
11Those likewise who act righteously shall die on
account of the works of man, and shall be gathered together on account of
the works of the wicked. (Yes those who act with Truth, Beauty
and Goodness passively will past the test but will be the victims of
crimes and terrors. The wicked wont last but wilfull sin implies violence
on mankind will not be tolerated.)
12In those days they finished conversing with me.
(Written far in the past, Thousands of years ago for today.)
13And I returned to my fellow men, blessing the Lord of worlds
(After Enoch was shown this he was lowered to Earth.)
I thought there were allot of clues in the above chapter that seemed to make
sense. It gives another piece of the Eden puzzle. Its the seal.
regards
sevens
Here is some instruction from Enoch for all the Sons of God, no distinction
but who are in brotherhood will all mankind, its that attitude.
Its a really good guide and breath of fresh air for the soul.
2Enoch 65
Of Enoch’s instructions to his sons
1And Enoch answered all his people saying: Hear, my children, before
that all creatures were created, the Lord created the visible and
invisible things.
2And as much time as there was and went past, understand that after all
that he created man in the likeness of his own form,
and put into him eyes to see, and ears to hear, and
heart to reflect, and intellect wherewith to deliberate. (note
the appeal to the intellect of man using Gods wisdom to effective positive
results that all are happy with.)
3And the Lord saw all man’s works, and created all his creatures,
and divided time, from time he fixed the years, and from the years he
appointed the months, and from the months he appointed the days, and of
days he appointed seven. (God sees through all space time. The
Ancients are very invloved in this revelation for mankind in the spirit of
peace and harmony.)
4And in those he appointed the hours, measured them out exactly, that man
might reflect on time and count years, months, and hours, their
alternation, beginning, and end, and that he might count his own life,
from the beginning until death, and reflect on his sin and write his work
bad and good; because no work is hidden before the Lord, that every man
might know his works and never transgress all his
commandments, and keep my handwriting from generation to
generation.
(Keep his words where ever it can identified including new revelations
from God.)
5When all creation visible and invisible, as the Lord created it, shall
end, then every man goes to the great judgment, and then all time shall
perish, and the years, and thenceforward there will be neither months nor
days nor hours, they will be adhered together and will not be counted.
(Everyman makes no distinction of race or religion, everyman is judged
according to his works in his heart.)
6There will be one aeon, and all the righteous
who shall escape the Lord’s great judgment, shall be collected in the
great aeon, for the righteous the great aeon will begin, and they
will live eternally, and then too there will be amongst them neither
labour, nor sickness, nor humiliation, nor anxiety, nor need, nor
brutality, nor night, nor darkness, but great light.
(in the new world in the new Epoch there will be one people one God but in
brotherhood as friends, The attitude before and after.)
7And they shall have a great indestructible wall, and a paradise bright
and incorruptible, for all corruptible things shall pass away, and
there will be eternal life.
(The wall could be subtle reflection to the wall of 1stEden discovered of
The Eastern Med and its direct relationship to Paradise.)
Its another very intruiging view into the last times before change. Its all
part of the last great puzzle the last great mystery that inspires soul,
gives him positive direction with sublime revelation direct to the Holy one.
All the best
sevens
Here is a mystery maybe some of another faith can work work this one out.
Obviously the number Sevens is very important and is attached to the
mystery.
In the end seems of the chapter seems to be a clear instruction to accept
the message in all the books and give me the clue that the ultimate mystery
and message is spread across all the books of all cultures and religions and
it all points to Eden and judgment of all man.
2Enoch 48 Of the sun’s passage along the seven circles
(To me it refers to the sevenfold.)
1That the sun go along the seven heavenly circles, which are the
appointment of one hundred and eighty-two thrones, that it go down
on a short day, and again one hundred and eighty-two, that
it go down on a big day, (6 months period between 2 equinoxs.) and he has
two thrones on which he rests, revolving hither and thither above the
thrones of the months, from the seventeenth day of the month Tsivan it
goes down to the month Thevan, from the seventeenth of Thevan it goes up.
(Thevan could that mean 7 seven? must the 7th month the equinox on the
17th day.)
2And thus it goes close to the earth, then the earth is glad and makes
grow its fruits, and when it goes away, then the earth is sad, and trees
and all fruits have no florescence. (The seasonal equinox.)
3All this he measured, with good measurement of hours, and fixed a measure
by his wisdom, of the visible and the invisible. (The seasons)
4From the invisible he made all things visible, himself being
invisible.
5Thus I make known to you, my children, and distribute the books to
your children, into all your generations, and
amongst the nations who shall have the sense to fear God, let them receive
them, and may they come to love them more than any food or earthly
sweets, and read them and apply themselves to them.
(Then a message to accept all the books, all of them and told to read them
all and apply to them.)
6And those who understand not the Lord, who fear
not God, who accept not, but reject, who do not receive the books, a
terrible judgment awaits these.
(This is a clear message that those who reject the message of the
brotherhood of all mankind will be go through judgement. How direct is
that.)
7Blessed is the man who shall bear their yoke and shall drag them
along, for he shall be released on the day of the
great judgment. (speaks for itself just maintain the proper
universal attitude of tolerance and acceptance with the view for peace not
violence.)
I thought that was interesting that last piece and is good all man all
religions. We all have the piece of the puzzle.
all the best sevens
Hi I found this on another thread
I not being completely familiar with Islam and discovering this I thought
the following excerpt was quite reasonable and I thought was a good to read.
I was quite inspired by it.
I was inspired to see that here is a bridge extended between both faiths. I
think that is excellent. To know it is written that we can get along fine
and share our discoveries and explorations in the words.
I also noticed a clue in reference to the Garden
Jews, Christians and Islâm
"Verily, you will find the strongest among men in enmity to the believers
(Muslims) the Jews and those who are Al-Mushrikûn [polytheists, pagans
etc.], and you will find the nearest in love to the believers
(Muslims) those who say: "We are Christians." That is because amongst them
are priests and monks, and they are not proud. ( ) And when they
(who call themselves Christians) listen to what has been sent down to the
Messenger (Muhammad), you see their eyes overflowing with tears because
of the truth they have recognised. They say: "Our Lord! We believe;
so write us down among the witnesses. ( ) "And why should we not
believe in Allâh and in that which has come to us of the truth (Islâmic
Monotheism)? (well I think the one truth, one God that will apparent) And
we wish that our Lord will admit us (in Paradise on the Day of
Resurrection) along with the righteous people (Prophet Muhammad and
his Companions)." ( ) So because of what they said, Allâh rewarded them
Gardens under which rivers flow (in Paradise)[i.e. they became true
Muslims], they will abide therein forever. Such is the reward of
good*doers. ( ) But those who disbelieved and belied Our Ayât
(proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.), they shall
be the dwellers of the (Hell) Fire." [The Noble Qur’ân, Chapter Al-Mâ’idah
(no.5), Verse 82-86]
I am impressed. I see good brotherhood in that. It clearly shows that the
prophet is sharing his discoveries with other religions. I'm totally
impressed by that. Its shows the prophet really does love his fellow man and
shares his discoveries with him. Because of that other religions benefit and
are blessed where great unity comes out of that. Well that's what I see. I
think that good and only encourages me to share my discoveries with my
fellow man no matter who he is.
I also notice judgment day is involved and its references to admittance in
to Paradise but also a mention of Garden which I thought was interesting, a
subtle hint! Also there is mention of disbelief and belief. That's what I'm
finding to.
In this last piece I found many positive parallels and its essence of
discovery and sharing, where all religions are blessed with truth doing good
in good in good cheer. I would suggest now is time to display that and
nothing else. Let judgment be to God. We cant judge one another or hope. Who
are we you know. Sometimes I have to listen to that myself. Self correction
in the words.
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In the following is an excerpt from one of the many excerpts of Jesus from a
source which I believe compliments the journey of exploration in the scripts
of the great mystery, one of many sources that is a clue that relates to
Eden. In analysing it there seems to be 2 components. A new revelation and a
demonstration of his righteousness.
Like a book written in hands of Angels given to man and a discovery that
leads to change through illumination, enlightenment through greater
understanding of God in discovery. A spiritual expansion of spiritual
understanding of God through a discovery that's leads to the scripts and its
message about the End times, the last great mystery.
We walk in the shadow of it today as seen in all the books, scripts combined
them. That's why I release this to everyone no matter what scripts from
where or from who. It doesn't matter because the puzzle lies in all our
scripts together as one. True brotherhood of man and Fatherhood of God and
this does not mean division and argument between mankind.
here is the excerpt.
And when the kingdom shall have come to its full fruition be assured
that the Father in heaven will not fail to visit you with an
enlarged revelation of truth and an enhanced demonstration of
righteousness,
All these messages goes beyond the boundaries of dogma its all to do with
belief and faith to inspire mans soul, to give light to mans heart, to give
him hope but in peace and having quiet confidence with love of what is to
come.
Like through an enlarged revelation, like a revealment and a demonstration.
Like 2 things a spiritual and physical, you see it and read about it. Like
the worlds greatest mystery and connected to revelation from Paradise as
foreseen by the prophets, all of the prophets, who ever has the eyes to see
and hear.
I think we all have to have faith if we are to get through all this
successfully. Faith in good works and in the best cheer possible. Its like
we have to have faith in the Supernal message of Paradise in showing peace.
But I believe there is a path that takes us back to our origins in discovery
and in truth that could be the key in all of this as discovered in all our
scripts.
regards
sevens
I was thinking about the following
listen to what has been sent down to the Messenger (Muhammad), you see
their eyes overflowing with tears because of the truth they have
recognised. They say: "Our Lord! We believe; so write us down among the
witnesses.
What if that actually manifested in this way.
I have been researching the case ultimately for 14 years, its only in the
last 4 years that embarked on a journey into the scripts in search of the
location of Eden and its message in the scripts. Alone!.
I have shared this research on the run with mankind publicly for 2 years on
the run, as revealed. I have found in my search a space time unification
that includes all the scripts that specifically speaks about the end times in
full and the complete picture. As I and we go down the track in time and
see the time markers and all relevant details what emerges is huge mystery
that is real saga for all mankind as this mystery is revealed. I mean to
say to really a big thing.
I have shared this with everyone over here and have found much disbelief
and rejection however some do see it, one voice amongst billions, who cares!
However some do but very few.. But if this journey is
the real successfull path to Eden and the message of it encompasses all
the truth and the middle east countries being very religious and believing in
the One God actually see the connection and because of the essence of the
ultimate message which is related to everyone's origins and see the beauty in
this share it with the Christian worlds and actually acknowledge the great
mystery. Then I believe that will bring revealment to a religious
mystery through discovery that brings all religions together and all mankind
to a physical point of our origins as foreseen in all our books. The
power of the word in our religions bringing all of us together to one point in
brotherhood in discovery. I would think that would be the plan of
Paradise.
That scenario I see would fulfill the above prophecy where the great
message of peace comes from Allah to the western worlds that is related to the
message of Eden through a new expansion of truth fulfilling the above..
Something like that! Like a message in origin that comes from an
independent source given and then given back but with beauty from the middle
east in discovery in there own books and others given back but with splendor
and shared with beauty and love.
That to me would be a great testament that involves a bridge of the same
truth in acknowledgement and would bring peace and search for both religions.
Those who still maintain war ideas will be judged in the end. But
through the path of Eden and to Eden with its message in totality with wisdom
is the path through the great chasm of destruction. This will need faith
as all man walks the great chasm of destruction. The wise will see this
beforehand and flee from destruction and know what to do.
I hope all this helps to bring better brotherhood of mankind and more
mankind to avoid war and destruction and to help man avoid those who only
believe in war. I believe if all in faith got together and reconsidered
and shook hands for one day and continued that and resolve in trust in each
other in the spirit of honesty and goodwill we all get though this.
Its going to be a long journey which may be hastened and we could all be in
the final weeks of this saga. We just passed through 7th week in my
calculation there is a few more to go.
The answer of much of our problems has to come from religion itself, it
really does and a solution has to be made to bring us all together as a family
a whole planetary family with God in the middle of us. Absolutely I
think many men on all faiths have that desire. truly.
But through exploration, discovery the journey the things that inspire man
for good works and love for another unconditional purely a brotherhood thing.
regards
sevens
Yeah Yeah Yeah ! no worries.
I took down the stuff already I did write something in the prophecy thread.
I was reading Enoch last night and I came across "in the seventh week, the
selection" the part I was focusing on but then it continued to the 10 week. So
in actual fact we are in the beginning of the 8th week. But Im saying nothing
for the moment.
I can post them if you want the verses or if anyone want to view them. That's
ok.
We are not out of the woods yet!!! I wonder when the expedition is? All I know
its in September, that's all I know.
haha see what happens eh!
But serious according my original calculations from 4th July to the end of the
10th week is around sept 11th, around that time. Makes you think again, doesn't
it!
Briwyns I wonder if you saw that? Just curious? mmmmm.
listen to what has been sent down to the Messenger (Muhammad), you see
their eyes overflowing with tears because of the truth they have recognised.
They say: "Our Lord! We believe; so write us down among the witnesses.
What if that actually manifested in this way. Where it fullfilled itself in
this possible way.
I have been researching the case, ultimately for 14 years, its only in the
last 4 years that I embarked on a journey into the scripts in search of the
location of Eden and its message in the scripts. Alone!.
I have shared this research on the run with mankind publicly for 4 years on
the run, as revealed. I have found in my search a space time unification that
includes all the scripts that specifically speaks about the end times in full
and the complete picture and I believe its connection to Eden. As I or we go
down the track in time and see the time markers and all relevant details. What
emerges is a huge mystery that is becoming a real saga for all mankind as this
mystery is revealed. I mean to say its a really a big thing but no one really
sees it at all or they could be to fear becuase its too perplexing considering
facing oneself?
I have shared this with everyone over here and have found much disbelief and
rejection however some do see it but one voice amongst billions, who cares!
However some do, but very few..
But if this journey is the real successfull path to Eden as being revealed on
the run. Where the message of it encompasses all the truth in all the books.
The Middle east countries being related to the origins of man being very
religious and believing in the One God actually see the connection. Because it
parallels in essence to one's origins and realise the beauty and share it with
the Christian worlds and who actually acknowledge the great mystery. That
would actualy be a an actual fulfillment of the above prophecy.
Then I believe that will bring revealment to a religious mystery through
discovery that brings all religions together and all mankind to a physical
point of our origins as foreseen in all our books. The power of the word in
our religions bringing all of us together to one point in brotherhood in
discovery. I would think that would be the plan of Paradise.
That scenario I see would fulfill the above prophecy where the great message
of peace comes from Allah to the western worlds that is related to the message
of Eden through a new expansion of truth fulfilling the above.. Something like
that! Like a message in origin that comes from an independent source given and
then given back but with beauty from the middle east in discovery in there own
books and others given back but with splendor and shared with beauty and love.
That to me would be a great testament that involves a bridge of the same truth
in acknowledgement and would bring peace and search for both religions. Those
who still maintain war ideas will be judged in the end. But through the path
of Eden and to Eden with its message in totality with wisdom is the path
through the great chasm of destruction. This will need faith as all man walks
the great chasm of destruction. The wise will see this beforehand and flee
from destruction and know what to do.
I hope all this helps to bring better brotherhood of mankind and more mankind
to avoid war and destruction and to help man avoid those who only believe in
war. I believe if all in faith got together and reconsidered and shook hands
for one day and continued that and resolve in trust in each other in the
spirit of honesty and goodwill we all get though this. Its going to be a long
journey which may be hastened and we could all be in the final weeks of this
saga. We just passed through 7th week well in my calculation that I found in
Enoch there is a few more weeks to go.
The answer to much of our problems has to come from religion itself, it really
does. A positive solution has to be found to bring us all together as a
family, a whole planetary family with God in the middle of us. Absolutely I
think many men on all faiths have that desire. truly!
But through exploration, discovery, the journey finding the things that
inspire man for good works and love for another unconditional purely a
brotherhood thing. No doctrine to that, that should go without saying. That
would make a big difference and things would change and realities would get
better if people resolved and worked together and not warring.
I see a big positive things to all of this from a high level of intelligence
and understand for all.
regards
sevens
Hi Briwyns, thanks
However to add to the mystery last night I was reading in Enoch that the 7th
week where I realised the 7th week is apart of the 10 week period. I was focused
on the 7th week perhaps to much as the mystery extends to the 10 week. The end
of the 10 week is around September 11th.
I thought that was an interesting parallel I wanted to share with you.
However to add to the mystery last night I was reading in Enoch that
the 7th week where I realized the 7th week is apart of the 10 week
period. I was focused on the 7th week perhaps to much as the mystery
extends to the 10 week. The end of the 10 week is around September
11th.
I thought that was an interesting parallel I wanted to share with
you.
here
That's the thread where
you can back track to the seventh week. Just following the thread.
excerpt
chapter 91:15 15 And after this, in the tenth week in the
seventh part,
There shall be the great eternal judgement,
In which He will execute vengeance amongst the angels.
16 And the first heaven shall depart and pass away, And a new
heaven shall appear, A nd all the powers of the heavens
shall give sevenfold light.
17 And after that there will be many weeks without number for
ever,
And all shall be in goodness and righteousness,
And sin shall no more be mentioned for ever.
and then look at the
timing of the connection of the towers and then straight the
sevenfold and look at the timing of the 10th week scenario.
Isaiah 41 25 And there
shall be upon every high mountain, and upon every high hill,
rivers and streams of waters in the day of the great slaughter,
when the towers fall.
this is the verse straight after, it references the Sevenfold. I
know what this means. Sevenfold is the Father. Now connect and
combine both prophets and see what they say. That would be the clue
I think.
26 Moreover the light
of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the
sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days,
in the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach of his people,
and healeth the stroke of their wound .
Here is an extended meaning of the sevenfold mentioned in Isaiah.
link
Also notice that in the following verse 27 and onwards it equates
itself to the destruction of Eden and the Sarmast theory which
connects it to 1stEden. Maybe what we went through was a test within
test to see the reaction perhaps I don't know. its all faith
bringing to another level of the mystery.
The Sevenfold is mentioned directly and associated. How direct is
that? and the timing from Isaiah, Enochs 10 weeks and the current
4th july 10 week period to around sept 11th. We should look into
Isaiah more in light of this.
However to add to the mystery last night I was reading in Enoch that
the 7th week where I realized the 7th week is apart of the 10 week
period. I was focused on the 7th week perhaps to much as the mystery
extends to the 10 week. The end of the 10 week is around September
11th.
I thought that was an interesting parallel I wanted to share with
you.
here
That's the thread where
you can back track to the seventh week. Just following the thread.
excerpt
chapter 91:15 15 And after this, in the tenth week in
the seventh part,
There shall be the great eternal judgement,
In which He will execute vengeance amongst the angels.
16 And the first heaven shall depart and pass away, And a new
heaven shall appear, A nd all the powers of the heavens
shall give sevenfold light.
17 And after that there will be many weeks without number for
ever,
And all shall be in goodness and righteousness,
And sin shall no more be mentioned for ever.
and then look at the timing of the connection of the towers and then
straight after the sevenfold connection and then look at the timing
of the 10th week scenario.
Isaiah 41 25 And there
shall be upon every high mountain, and upon every high hill,
rivers and streams of waters in the day of the great slaughter,
when the towers fall.
this is the verse straight after, it references the Sevenfold. I
know what this means. Sevenfold is the Father. Now connect and
combine both prophets and see what they say. That would be the clue
I think.
26 Moreover the light
of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the
sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days,
in the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach of his people,
and healeth the stroke of their wound .
Here is an extended meaning of the sevenfold mentioned in Isaiah.
link
Also notice that in the following verse 27 and onwards it equates
itself to the destruction of Eden and the Sarmast theory which
connects it to 1stEden. Maybe what we went through was a test within
test to see the reaction perhaps I don't know. its all faith
bringing to another level of the mystery. It kind of lends more
gravity to the Cyprus case and its overall relationship to the
journey of the scripts.
The Sevenfold is mentioned directly in both sources and in the same
time period.
How direct is that and connected? and the timing from Isaiah's
Sevenfold after the tower reference. We can see that scribes that
are hiding who counted the towers are identified and there acts are
recognised as an evil act against humanity. God who does not agree
with this act.
I believe this is Gods way of defining the truth in the scriptures
revealing themselves.
So you have Enoch's 10 weeks and the current 4th July 10 week period
to around Sept 11th and Isaiah and his timing and Sevenfold
connection. We should look more into Isaiah in light of this.
Also notice in continuing in to chapter 92 of Enoch here is a clear
message for those who walk the path of death willingly to hurt
innocent people. I believe this is a direct reference to terrorism
and its wicked acts and contemplations. Note reference to another
Generation, like a generation that are taught to discover terrors
2 And to certain men
of a generation shall the paths of violence and of death be
revealed, And they shall hold themselves afar from them, And shall
not follow them.
3 And now I say unto you the righteous:
Walk not in the paths of wickedness, nor in the paths of death,
And draw not nigh to them, lest ye be destroyed.
also I found this looks a direct reference to the action of
terrorism.
1They have rejected my commandments and my yoke, worthless seed
has come up, not fearing God, and they would not bow down to me,
but have begun to bow down to vain gods, and denied my unity,
and have ladenthe whole earth with untruths,
offences, abominable lecheries, namely one with another, and all
manner of other unclean wickedness, which are disgusting to
relate.
2And therefore I will bring down a deluge upon the earth and will
destroy all men, and the whole earth will crumble together into
great darkness.
And here is a direct link to suicide bombings and its offense.
Chapter 102 above link.
5 And grieve not if your soul into Sheol has descended in
grief, And that in your life your body fared not according to your
goodness, But wait for the day of the judgement of sinners
And for the day of cursing and chastisement.
6 And yet when ye die the sinners speak over you:
" As we die, so die the righteous,
And what benefit do they reap for their deeds ?
I see that as what is point of suicide? but i could be corrected
here.
and more . In the flowing means no violence for the righteous.
[Chapter 103]
1 Now, therefore, I swear to you, the righteous, by the glory of
the Great and Honoured and 2 Mighty One in dominion, and by His
greatness I swear to you.
I know a mystery
And have read the heavenly tablets,
And have seen the holy books,
And have found written therein and inscribed regarding them:
(I think its the current mystery that seems to unify.)
3 That all goodness and joy and glory are prepared for them,
And written down for the spirits of those who have died in
righteousness, To me this is a message for the victims of
terrorism, the innocent people going about there business. Its not
for the terrorists. This for the victims of there evil work.
Specialy who do it in Gods name it means no violence at all.) And that manifold good shall be given to you in recompense for
your labours,
And that your lot is abundantly beyond the lot of the living.
4 And the spirits of you who have died in righteousness shall
live and rejoice, And their spirits shall not perish, nor their
memorial from before the face of the Great One Unto all the
generations of the world: wherefore no longer fear their
contumely.
In faith for goodness which means goodness.
So we can see a distinction of right behavior and wrong behavior.
Its very Obvious the scribe who counted the towers is in hiding in
accordance to Isaiah and in my mind is actually named by surname
Laden in Enoch and is associated with evil things. How consistent is
this, considering all the terrorism and its message and who is
perpetuating this.
More and more is being revealed as we go one in this mystery of who,
where and how. Everything in the ancient scripts seem to be pointing
to him others who perpetuate violence, he is associated not very
well with commands of Paradise of no violence.
Gee 10 weeks x 7 days =
70 days. 4th July to 11th September. Is that 70 days? In the Seventh part? in
the calculation of the 10 unit curious! Kind of reminds me of Ezras 70 days
where again a testament is written before the lord comes.
Well I calculate that time 4th July to 11th September is actually = to 70 days
to the day.
Now the only piece of the puzzle is the timing of the second expedition to
Eden/Atlantis? That I wouldnt have a clue about.
In the following is an excerpt from the Book of Enoch, mind you its a book
that is not studied greatly by any religions. The last full copy was found
in Ethiopia in 1845.
However I believe in light of all my studies I feel we could be in that time
period. I feel we are in the eight week. I must say I was to focussed on the
Seventh week. Aug 21st my calculation. However I feel we are in the eight
week. I estimate it as a 70 days test period from the 4th July including the
extra day of the month.
I believe it could be of good value to investigate this as this could be
part of the great mystery for all mankind, the great opportunity beforehand
but in peace. I believe the following is an incredible journey through the
constructs of time and what has manifested through all the books in reality
as the picture forms.
Like I said its for your reading and research to see if it parallels with
the books all of them. But it doesn't support violence but peace among all
brothers of the planetary family.
Anyway enjoy the research.
Here is an Chapter 91
Section V. XCI-CIV (i.e. XCII, XCI. 1-1O, 18-19, XCIII. 1-1O, XCI. 12-17,
XCIV-CIV.). A Book of Exhortation and Promised Blessing for the Righteous and of
Malediction and Woe for the Sinners.
[Chapter 92]
1 The book written by Enoch-[Enoch indeed wrote this complete doctrine of
wisdom, (which is) praised of all men and a judge of all the earth] for
all my children who shall dwell on the earth. And for the future
generations who shall observe uprightness and peace.
2 Let not your spirit be troubled on account of the times;
For the Holy and Great One has appointed days for all things.
(reassurance not to be troubled as best you can.)
3 And the righteous one shall arise from sleep,
[Shall arise] and walk in the paths of righteousness,
And all his path and conversation shall be in eternal goodness and grace.
(To me the Paradise message of the brotherhood of mankind and the
Fatherhood of God.)
4 He will be gracious to the righteous and give him eternal
uprightness,
And He will give him power so that he shall be (endowed) with goodness and
righteousness.
And he shall walk in eternal light.
(Power through a personal relationship with God, Like a Father and Son
relationship and as friends. Walking in respect and Love for one another.)
5 And sin shall perish in darkness for ever,
And shall no more be seen from that day for evermore.
(Wilfull harm towards all mankind, from anyone. Now is the time to humble
oneself.)
[Chapter 91]
1 And now, my son Methuselah, call to me all thy brothers
And gather together to me all the sons of thy mother;
For the word calls me,
And the spirit is poured out upon me,
That I may show you everything
That shall befall you for ever.'
[b]2 And there upon Methuselah went and summoned to
him all his brothers and assembled his relatives.[/B]
3 And he spake unto all the children of
righteousness and said:
'Hear, ye sons of Enoch, all the words of your father,
And hearken aright to the voice of my mouth;
For I exhort you and say unto you, beloved:
4 Love uprightness and walk therein.
And draw not nigh to uprightness with a double heart,
And associate not with those of a double heart,
But walk in righteousness, my sons.
And it shall guide you on good paths,
And righteousness shall be your companion.
5 For I know that violence must increase on the
earth,
And a great chastisement be executed on the earth,
And all unrighteousness come to an end:
Yea, it shall be cut off from its roots,
And its whole structure be destroyed.
6 And unrighteousness shall again be consummated on the earth,
And all the deeds of unrighteousness and of violence
And transgression shall prevail in a twofold degree.
(all violence.)
7 And when sin and unrighteousness and blasphemy
And violence in all kinds of deeds increase,
And apostasy and transgression and uncleanness increase,
(Like in Killing in Gods name in self vain glory ego. All parties")(Like
preaching one thing and doing the opposite or reverse to the tru willof
God of peace amoung the brothers, all brothers.)
A great chastisement shall come from heaven
upon all these,
And the holy Lord will come forth with wrath and
chastisement
To execute judgement on earth.
(Eternal Judgement on those bent on violence.)
8 In those days violence shall be cut off from
its roots,
And the roots of unrighteousness together with
deceit,
And they shall be destroyed from under heaven.
( Directly pointing to violence, deceit and all violence.)
9 And all the idols of the heathen shall be abandoned,
And the temples burned with fire,
And they shall remove them from the whole earth,
(There will great change for all man no boundaires of religion can save
man. What will be examined is his motives and his behaviour for all man.
There is an dvantage to know this now, to prepare.)
And they (i.e. the heathen) shall be cast into the judgement of fire,
And shall perish in wrath and in grievous judgement for ever.
10 And the righteous shall arise from their
sleep,
And wisdom shall arise and be given unto them.
[And after that the roots of unrighteousness shall be cut off, and the
sinners shall be destroyed by the sword . . . shall be cut off from the
blasphemers in every place, and those who plan violence and those who
commit blasphemy shall perish by the sword.]
18 And now I tell you, my sons, and show you
The paths of righteousness and the paths of violence.
Yea, I will show them to you again
That ye may know what will come to pass.
Know what is to come, Note the distinction between righteousness and no
violence.)
19 And now, hearken unto me, my sons,
And walk in the paths of righteousness,
And walk not in the paths of violence; For all who walk in the
paths of unrighteousness shall perish for ever.'
(Violence is not the answer. its is extremely clear and points to this
time.)
[Chapter 93]
1,2 And after that Enoch both gave and began to
recount from the books. And Enoch said:
(researching all the books, every last one of them amoungst all rlevant
cultures.) Also Enoch Gave the book (the new revelation, book from heaven
and recounted from the existing the books the mystery, a confirmation that
I recognise.)
' Concerning the children of righteousness and
concerning the elect of the world,
And concerning the plant of uprightness, I
will speak these things,
Yea, I Enoch will declare (them) unto you, my sons:
(The tree of Life is involved and comes from Heaven.)
According to that which appeared to me in the
heavenly vision,
And which I have known through the word of the holy angels,
And have learnt from the heavenly tablets.'
(Taught and revealed in heaven for what is to come on earth. The future,
Now!)
This is the beginning of the Judgement process which is over 10 weeks
70 days.
3 And Enoch began to recount from the books and said:
' I was born the seventh in the first week,
While judgement and righteousness still endured.
(Note: how Seventh is involved right from the beginning. I interpret that
as Sevenfold from my own experience.)
4 And after me there shall arise in the second
week great wickedness,
And deceit shall have sprung up;
And in it there shall be the first end.
And in it a man shall be saved;
And after it is ended unrighteousness shall grow up,
And a law shall be made for the sinners.
And after that in the third week[at
its close
A man shall be elected as the plant of righteous judgement,
And his posterity shall become the plant of righteousness for evermore.
6 And after that in the fourth week,
at its close,
Visions of the holy and righteous shall be seen,
And a law for all generations and an enclosure shall be made for them.
7 And after that in the fifth week,[
at its close,
The house of glory and dominion shall be built for ever.
8 And after that in the sixth week
all who live in it shall be blinded,
And the hearts of all of them shall godlessly forsake wisdom.
And in it a man shall ascend;
And at its close the house of dominion shall be burnt with fire,
And the whole race of the chosen root shall be dispersed.
9 And after that in the seventh week
shall an apostate generation arise,
And many shall be its deeds,
And all its deeds shall be apostate.
10 And at its close shall be elected
The elect righteous of the eternal plant of righteousness,
To receive sevenfold instruction concerning all His creation.
(The selection that means for those with no violence in there hearts
spiritualy.)
11 [For who is there of all the children of men that is able to hear
the voice of the Holy One without being troubled ? And who can think His
thoughts ? and who is there that can behold all the works
12 of heaven ? And how should there be one who could behold the heaven,
and who is there that could understand the things of heaven and see a soul
or a spirit and could tell thereof, or ascend and see 13 all their ends
and think them or do like them ? And who is there of all men that could
know what is the breadth and the length of the earth, and to whom has been
shown the measure of all of them ? 14 Or is there any one who could
discern the length of the heaven and how great is its height, and upon
what it is founded, and how great is the number of the stars, and where
all the luminaries rest ?]
[Chapter 91]
12 And after that there shall be another, the
eighth week, that of righteousness,
And a sword shall be given to it that a righteous judgement may be
executed on the oppressors,
And sinners shall be delivered into the hands of the righteous.
(This means knowledge and understanding and truth that imbibes truth
beauty and goodness of the soul. Not hatred.)
13 And at its close they shall acquire houses through their
righteousness,
And a house shall be built for the Great King in glory for evermore,
14d And all mankind shall look to the path of uprightness.
(In this period the upright will be blessed and given spirtual houses, its
not material but will be in the new world. But not thinking in terms of
materialism.)
14a And after that, in the ninth week
the righteous judgement shall be revealed to the whole world,
b And all the works of the godless shall vanish from all the earth,
c And the world shall be written down for destruction.
(The times is getting closer and the noose is tightening and realities are
becming apparent.)
15 And after this, in the tenth week in the
seventh part,
There shall be the great eternal judgement,
In which He will execute vengeance amongst the angels.
(The end in the Tenth week in the Seventh part or the Sevenfold part.
16 And the first heaven shall depart and pass away,
And a new heaven shall appear, And all the powers of the heavens shall give
sevenfold light.
17 And after that there will be many weeks
without number for ever,
And all shall be in goodness and righteousness,
And sin shall no more be mentioned for ever.
That to me is the judgement process of Paradise. Also a similar construct
and parallel is found in Isaiah in two places that associates itself with
sevenfold. Remembering that the Sevenfold goes way, way back to Eden the
first Garden where Adam and Eve manifested and in the second Garden in
Mesopotamia and the surrounding areas, all part of everyone's culture. I
strongly believe that this is the message, the real message that brings hope
and faith and light into mans heart. No matter what religion because we are
in it together as a family.
This truth has been with us for so long and I feel it is rearing its head
through truth and discovery within the scripts and a new revelation of Eden.
Bringing us back to our origins. Its a time/space unification of physical
and spiritual that involves the past, present and future in one single
moment of time at a significant point of revealing through a mystery that
has no association with violence. This goes for everyone no matter what
faith for all peoples. There are no boundaries. The peaceful have to do is
prepare in goodwill, I Feel its the only approach.
I give this to you in goodwill in case I'm right, remembering this whole
journey has been built upon faith in the scripts. I know there are more out
there that point to this place with a similar message. I want all world
religions to get the full benefits of this. All this belongs to mankind and
the angels who have been here for thousands guiding man to this moment to
put a final end to the Lucifer rebellion. But the best approach to all this
is prayer, forgiveness and have faith and no violence, we all have reflect
upon ourselves which is the view from heaven. Paradise is pure they detest
violence. I feel there is a real urgency in this, I want all to benefit.
II post some as an continuation on advise from Enoch on what enticements to
watch out for in these last times.
Then IIl post references to the seal and breaking the seal. And references
from Job. That reveal the Sevenfold further.
regards
sevens
Hey look at this in Enoch
As you read this book is around 300BC beyond and goes back to Eden
and specifically identifies the actual activity. of the laden.
Its an incredible find. Really identifies who and what is regarded
as completely sinful.
3 Fear not the sinners,
ye righteous;
For again will the Lord deliver them into your hands,
That ye may execute judgement upon them according to your desires.
4 Woe to you who fulminate anathemas which cannot be
reversed:
Healing shall therefore be far from you because of your sins.
OK Im interested in the words "fulminate anathemas" what
does that mean.
Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[fuhl-muh-neyt]
Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, -nat‧ed, -nat‧ing,
noun
–verb (used without object) 1. to explode with a loud noise;
detonate.
2. to issue denunciations or the like (usually fol. by against):
The minister fulminated against legalized vice.
–verb (used with object) 3. to cause to explode.
4. to issue or pronounce with vehement denunciation,
condemnation, or the like.
–noun
5. one of a group of unstable, explosive compounds derived from
fulminic acid, esp. the mercury salt of fulminic acid, which is a
powerful detonating agent.
and now
anathema
Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[uh-nath-uh-muh]
Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -mas. 1. a person or thing detested or loathed:
That subject is anathema to him.
2. a person or thing accursed or consigned to damnation or
destruction.
3. a formal ecclesiastical curse involving excommunication.
4. any imprecation of divine punishment.
5. a curse; execration.
What an intriguing find. Identifies everything and who, all in Enoch
and Isaiah. Even to the surname.
regards
sevens
Here is another chapter of reassurance of the end times and some excellent
advise.
[Chapter 104] 1Book of Enoch.
1 I swear unto you, that in heaven the angels remember you for good
before the glory of the Great
2 One: and your names are written before the glory of the Great OneBe
hopeful; for aforetime ye were put to shame through ill and affliction;.
but now ye shall shine as the lights of heaven,
3 ye shall shine and ye shall be seen, and the portals of heaven shall
be opened to you. And in your cry, cry for
judgement, and it shall appear to you; for all your tribulation
shall be visited on the
4 rulers, and on all who helped those who plundered you. Be hopeful,
and cast not away your hopes for ye shall have great joy as the angels of
heaven. What shall ye be obliged to do ? Ye shall not have to hide on the
day of the great judgement and ye shall not be found as sinners, and the
eternal
6 judgement shall be far from you for all the generations of the world.
And now fear not, ye righteous, when ye see the sinners growing strong and
prospering in their ways: be not companions with them,
7 but keep afar from their violence; for ye
shall become companions of the hosts of heaven.
And, although ye sinners say: " All our sins shall
not be searched out and be written down," nevertheless 8 they shall write
down all your sins every day. And now I show unto you that light and
darkness,
9 day and night, see all your sins. Be not godless in your hearts, and
lie not and alter not the words of uprightness, nor charge with lying the
words of the Holy Great One, nor take account of your
10 idols; for all your lying and all your
godlessness issue not in righteousness but in great sin. And now
I know this mystery, that sinners will alter and
pervert the words of righteousness in many ways, and will speak wicked
words, and lie, and practice great deceits, and write books concerning
11 their words. But when they write down
truthfully all my words in their languages, and do not change or minish
ought from my words but write them all down truthfully -all that I first
testified
(This is unbelievable discovering this all this being written down
honestly and is a testament.)
12 concerning them. Then, I know another mystery,
that books will be given to the righteous and the
(The books will be given as the mystery is revealed through discovery
which points to Eden. Incredible discovery and the unifciation in the
scripts. All to do with mysrery and I know what it is. 1Eden, the message
foe Eden. Now today! Inspiring stuff.)
13 wise to become a cause of joy and uprightness
and much wisdom. And to them shall the books
be given, and they shall believe in them and
rejoice over them, and then shall all the righteous who have learnt
therefrom all the paths of uprightness be recompensed.'
Absolutely I know the New Book that led us all the 1Eden and how this book
led to the great mystery in all the other books in all the distant cultures
and how the truth was maintain in form or another to be unified now. Its
amazing how they all unified at this time of realizing this chapter more so
now than ever before.
What a promise we just received and an outline of what has been witnessed in
reflection of the journey of the past.
Like a time/space unification or a unification of time and prophecy of
thousands of years all seen by spiritual people and documented for all
mankind.
Men failed to take into
account either erosion or the results of the overturning of soil.
Stones also greatly impressed early peoples because of their
frequent resemblance to animals. The attention of civilized man
is arrested by numerous stone formations in the mountains which so
much resemble the faces of animals and even men. But the most
profound influence was exerted by meteoric stones which primitive
humans beheld hurtling through the atmosphere in flaming grandeur
Looks like the stones where used for Sun Worship
These were the times of
the New Stone Age overlapping the oncoming Bronze Age. In
Scandinavia it was the Bronze Age associated with mother worship.
In southern France and Spain it was the New Stone Age associated
with sun worship. This was the time of the building of the
circular and roofless sun temples.
The European white races were energetic builders, delighting to
set up great stones as tokens to the sun, much as did their
later-day descendants at Stonehenge. The vogue of sun worship
indicates that this was a great period of agriculture in southern
Europe.
Like Stonehenge and all the vases with circles on them resemble open
air temples. I don't think they are a direct resemblance to
Atlantis. Its all to do with religion. The circular open air temples
were dedicated to worship of the Mother God. Mary is a perpetuation
of that tradition in a sense.
and then the mystery of stones gets more intriguing.
This was the law of
Dalamatia for almost three hundred thousand years. And many of
the stones on which this law was inscribed now lie beneath the
waters off the shores of Mesopotamia and Persia. It became the
custom to hold one of these commands in mind for each day of the
week, using it for salutations and mealtime thanksgiving.
Got to find thse stones that go back 100,000 of years back in our
history submerged. That would be a find and a half.
Then in the following we have a description of the geological wealth
of Eden and its surrounding mountains and mention of the lack of
regard for the wealth in the stones. The original attitude of Eden
and Atlantis by the Gods. Sounds like a parallel to me confirming
the surrounding mountains as discovered of Cyprus, the area has
precious metals and the original attitude was spritiual rather than
material.
The mountains
surrounding the Garden abounded in precious stones and metals,
though these received very little attention. The dominant idea
was to be the glorification of horticulture and the exaltation of
agriculture.
and then we have this.
This Tuesday afternoon,
as Jesus and the apostles passed out of the temple on their way to
the Gethsemane camp, Matthew, calling attention to the temple
construction, said: "Master, observe what manner of buildings
these are. See the massive stones and the beautiful adornment; can
it be that these buildings are to be destroyed?" As they went on
toward Olivet, Jesus said: "You see these stones and this
massive temple; verily, verily, I say to you: In the days soon to
come there shall not be left one stone upon another. They shall
all be thrown down." These remarks depicting the destruction
of the sacred temple aroused the curiosity of the apostles as they
walked along behind the Master; they could conceive of no event
short of the end of the world which would occasion the destruction
of the temple.
and then here is another subtle reference to stones to how John the
Baptists lived.
Along the valley of
this little brook John built no less than a dozen stone shelters
and night corrals, consisting of piled-up stones, wherein he could
watch
here is a very interesting one to the current times
world-wide peace. If
you take every form of modern mechanical armaments and all types
of explosives away from strong nations, they will fight with
fists, stones, and clubs as long as they cling to their delusions
of the divine right of national sovereignty.
All the best Ideo, its was a great and fascinating study.
The thing is Milanista23. You don't know about this book. no one does really
because it was hidden until 1845. This book was never included in Liturgy
(Christians) and therefore the book was rejected and even sought after for
destruction. But I know the book was studied by the priests well over 2000 years
ago and then was hidden.
The books speaks of itself being hidden and rediscovered at another time for a
purpose. The last copy and only full copy was found in Ethiopia. 1845.
I stumbled over Enoch over 4 years ago and its only in this time now, that the
book is revealing its hidden understanding of this time in a time process.
Its all part of the great discovery of our origins for all mankind. That's why I
share this mankind for all his benefit in the truths it unlocks for us as a part
of a great puzzle for the times.
This book makes no distinction of religion and or of a people, its all part of a
spiritual examination of the soul and what motivates it and the intent in all
truth. I think every religion has to have the opportunity to see this and then
make up there minds up on all this. It may help them, since no one studies these
texts. Also consider what is being proclaimed at the moment in Iran and then
look at the texts and see the time period in the texts and the events of this
time that are recorded and but not studied. That's why I feel The Book of Enoch
should researched by all at this time and should be considered as important of
the last times in this age.
Also Enoch was translated, he never suffered death taken by God, very similar to
the "the Imam" who also taken by God, only to come back later at the end times!!
Everyone forgets about Enoch and his translation and don't even realize that
these words are from a man that was translated, taken to heaven, he could very
well be behind this message. It worth considering. I know there is another
message from another prophet that runs in parallel to this message of Enoch that
regards Eden, the judgement, time markers of significant events and the
sevenfold relating to heaven. Sevenfold is also mentioned in the exact time
period as in Enoch. Again by another prophet that was translated, taken by
Heaven at the end of his life and his message rings the same identical truth.
Another clue is a time conjunction of good and evil which falls on a particular
day in September and does follow the seven or sevenfold pattern in time and
space. In millenniums, years, months, weeks and days. I know its sounds strange
and one finds it hard to understand but when you become familiar to the journey
you will see it.
I think it all needs to be considered by all priests or any representative of
God. Also the Mullahs should know about Sevenfold and its origins in Mesopotamia
and I know the construct of the Holy place in Mecca has parallels to the
sevenfold in its shape and construction. Its amazing parallel that the origins
can be seen in symbolism..
All the best everyone
regards
sevens
Hi found this description of
what I believe is the location of Cyprus in the Book of Enoch.
5And paradise is between corruptibility and
incorruptibility.
6 And two springs come out which send forth honey and milk,
and their springs send forth oil and wine, and they separate into
four parts, and go round with quiet course, and go down into the
PARADISE OF EDEN, between corruptibility and
incorruptibility.
I thought that was interesting, 2 springs and the association with
Eden and Paradise and the waters that feed the rivers of Eden. Also
in the Book of Noah within Enoch there is a clear description of the
Deluge that I feel links to the location.
Its a snapshot description of the submerged location.
However in reading this I know people may think he is talking about
heaven, however Im not to sure of that. Whilst that maybe true it
could very well indirectly be speaking of the location.
8Blessed are the just
who shall escape the great judgment, for they shall shine forth
more than the sun sevenfold, for in this world the seventh
part is taken off from all, light, darkness, food, enjoyment,
sorrow, paradise, torture, fire, frost, and other things; he put
all down in writing, that you might read and understand.
Isaiah 30:26 Moreover
the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the
light of the sun shall be sevenfold as the light of seven
days, in the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach of his
people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.
9And they made a great
feast, rejoicing and making merry three days, praising God, who
had given them such a sign through Enoch, who had found favour
with him, and that they should hand it on to their sons from
generation to generation, from age to age.
I was wandering if you could take this whole thread down.
Its no point as this makes people uncomfortable in there
faith. I have no desire to take faith away but to build it.
There no point in this information being here.
Please take these threads I don't want start another stupid
war over doctrine and dogma with the so called spiritual
brothers of the world. Dogma, The bane of mans spiritual
creativity in moving forward.
Thanks once again for you tolerance and patience.
Oh well, while this thread is still here is another excerpt
out of Enoch regarding the physical location of Eden I mile
submerged of Cyprus
Here is Enoch description of 1st Eden. Note everything that
is described and expressed is found down there. The
discovery was due to the books leading man to the location.
This is the only physical sign of Judgement that will be
given. Oh and not to mention the crazy spiritual senseless
wars that is happening amongst the spiritual brotherhood of
man.
4 Its root is in the garden at the earth’s
end. (submerged)
5And paradise is between corruptibility and
incorruptibility.
6 And two springs come out which send forth honey
and milk, and their springs send forth oil and
wine, and they separate into four parts, and go round
with quiet course, and go down into the (the canals,
wall) PARADISE OF EDEN, (city/Eden) between
corruptibility and incorruptibility.
Here are some pictures of 1st Eden.
You read it and you see it. So simple. Its unfortunate
that Atlantis seems to be more acceptable than Eden
these days. Also note the wall which also mentioned in
Enoch.
There's more on the deluge and how it happened in Enoch and
in other books that parallel the same event.
In the following is the resultant of this major planetary
revelation to the ones that believe guided by the books of
religion (God or Allah)
9And they made a great feast,
rejoicing and making merry three days, praising God, who
had given them such a sign through Enoch, who had found
favour with him, and that they should hand it on to
their sons from generation to generation, from age to
age.
10Amen.
The discovery was not guided or funded by
any organisation, the discovery was a joint effort of Man
and God and all the Books of faith and a huge, huge amount
of faith. That's what it took to find this place, hard work
and research without all the bias and spiritual rubbish that
is going on today. God loves faith with Goodness.
regards
More of the same of old fear perpetuating itself.
same old divisional thing in all religions. Why dont we all grow up and forget
all this division stuff and try and live with each other and learn from each
other rather advise based on fear.
Times have changed in religion and its time we all moved on together as friends
and fellow planetary brothers with God and Allah together.
regards
sevens
Here is another simple message from the prophet Jesus as spoken to Thomas,
again not included in the Bible.
Another clue: The Gospel of Thomas 18 declares
"Tell us how our end will be." Jesus said, "Have you discovered, then, the
beginning, that you look for the end? For where the beginning is, there
will the end be. Blessed is he who will take his place in the beginning;
he will know the end and will not experience death,"
A serious clue from Jesus' own words. The prophet right?
The message is about this time right now and is the big clue.
Where was the beginning of man? Eden
The rediscovery of Eden is about the end but according to the above verse it
seems have relevance to the end times? the discovery of the end!! Is the
beginning of the end for the new.
What end is Jesus talking about?
and here is another clue from Jubilees
Jubilees: brought the waters of the flood upon all the land of Eden;
for there he was set as a sign
and heres extracts from
Job about Eden, the seal
Job38 :12 Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused
the dayspring to know his place; (Commanding angels to know this place
for a future event.)
13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might
be shaken out of it? (Judgement of mans soul)
14 It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.
(It is a seal and has been preserved over the eons of time and has been
broken or loosened by its discovery and significance.) *
15 And from the wicked their light is withholden, and the high arm
shall be broken. (speaks about judgement, the purpose of the
discovery, a direct message.)
Job:38-30 The waters are hid as with a stone, (the object of the
discovery Eden city)
Well I hope this a good present for Ramadan and gives man some positive hope
and inspiration.
I hope this helps to recognise things clearly. All the end times prophets are
all pointing to Eden. I wonder why?? Note the prophets in this case are
thousands of years apart.
The ancients prophets where there words are coming to pass. Now!
regards
sevens
Hi Milanista23
Mind you, I'm probably the only person working in the Western world that has
gone to this length searching every scrap of truth I can find in our past. I
know Iran financed 160 scholars to find out more about the end. So looks the
Islamic world is very interested in this time as I am. I'm so curious as what
they found and in what books they searched.
Quite honestly I would be quite happy for them to review my research and see
if there are connections and parallels.
If you know of a link where there research is I would be happy to check it
out. Hopefully in English language.
Also about judgement, I would happy to show you my timeline to see what you
think there maybe there is something in it. Mind you Im not talking about
conversion, no way, However I'm happy to share my stuff with you all to see if
there is truth about these times.
To be honest, its going to be hard for most religions to accept the
discoveries in the books and in the physical discovery of Eden as
demonstrated. I know some Christian bodies are perplexed about Eden, they
don't know what to do about it because they don't research enough in all the
books outside the Bible. I suspect Islam might also have its difficulty to
accept it, perhaps I'm not sure that's why I'm here to understand more about
Islam in relation to the times and off course Eden.
Also about Satan he is master of division, However, when there is true
brotherhood with honesty and sincerity, Satan finds it hard. Where ever there
is light between people like true honest Love between people there is no
Satan. Also if judgement is around the corner and the timeline is right his
end is coming soon. That's why I feel the end is close as the world is full of
much aggression that means there is all time battle going. Its only the truth
that will dispel that ignorance that Satan plays on and manipulates for his
own ends. Mind you he never stopped the discovery of Eden nor the angels
involved in the operation of Man and God.
Anyway lets see what happens around Sept 11th. Funny enough all the research
seems to be pointing to that date following the Sevenfold pattern. Its a
significant date and is mentioned in Enoch and in Isaiah and identifies all
involved and there current situation and also there destiny. Its not me its
the books. They foresaw this happening and are accurate about it even to
naming but I wont go into that.
God knows everything and even before time he can see the people involved
already in the future and records it. Incredible. Also sevenfold is mentioned
and coupled with that date and the towers is a time marker.
Anyway just some thoughts.
Thanks again for responding Milanista23
and all the best
sevens
Hi Milanista23
Mind you III only be here for 2 weeks, then I will now weather Im right in my
research. Personaly I wanted to share this to the Islamic world so they have
an idea what this is all about and maybe there could be parallels.
I think we are at the stage were we have to share our findings with goodness
in mind and goodwill. I think this brings much benefit to the spiritual body
of this planet.
Deep down in my heart I wanted to see If I could bring a little something good
over there to lessen the anger and resentment and hopefully to lower the
suspicion level and build the truth a bit. It really saddens me people against
each other. With the world system and countries, well they always argue over
something but when it comes to the spiritual brotherhood I get really
concerned. Plus man loosing his life over conflict and the damage it does to
his soul. That bothers me and as that can run through the generations with the
affliction of war and insecurity.
What can I do to help having nothing. I can only give you my discoveries in
the hope that might make people feel a little better.
In my opening thread, sorry if I was a little strong and perhaps judgmental.
Its hard for me to understand when Im not there and I see it all the time on
TV obviously seeing one side of the picture. Sorry for that.
My prayer that Eden brings some good in people lives but it might hard for
people to research it or even accept it. That how it goes.
anyway all the best
sevens
I hope no one minds
the following is A record of the Essenes of going back 2000 years.
The Jesus Papers of the Essenes
This is not studied by the western religions But I think its all about Eden,
about the above image. Its really beautiful and gives you a spiritual guide to
this time.
To me its makes subtle reference to Eden and the current mystery about
it.
Lies the peace and beauty
Of the Infinite Garden of Knowledge, 1st
Eden
Where the meaning of the Law
Is made known to the Children of Light.
The Book and its discovery.
Stands the Tree of Life, Definitely Eden of Cyprus For sure. The tree
of life is associated with it.
Mystery of mysteries. Direct reference to the last mystery, The
Sevenfold mystery. The mystery the seventh angels calls. Its the mystery of
Eden. He who hath found peace Loving to find this truth as a personal
revelation... With the teachings of the Ancients,
Through the light of the mind, Through study and contemplation and
prayer and discussion in faith with the Father and the angels.
Through the light of nature, Through walks in the forest and speaking
with God and contemplation and going over discoveries.
And through the study of the Holy Word,
Yes, through study in all the books with great interest capacity to
discover. All the priests books of all times. Hath entered the cloud-filled
Hall of the Ancients, The Ancients of Days ..Sevenfold.
Where dwelleth the Holy Brotherhood,
The Holy brotherhood of man on earth and of The Kingdom of Heaven.
of whom no man may speak. Respect for The Ancients and humility.
Know this peace with thy mind,
I thought that was incredible, The keywords, Its all about Eden and Jesus
referes to it as
The tree of life
The Infinite Garden
Entered
Mysteries of Mysteries
Hall of the ancients
Cloud filled
Holy word
Kingdom heaven
Light of mind and nature
Holy brotherhood
Beautiful words and open for all mankind no matter race or religion everyone.
I hope that was ok and was nice. It doesn't matter where it comes from so long
as it edifies you and you read and see it and combine everything. Its an
amazing picture of a very high level. in my view.
regards
sevens
Hi I just got back
from sharing this truth on a website relating to Iman.
In the final analysis I could of been a strong on the opening message
considering what was going through my mind about 1 week ago.
Well there was no response and my main thread was taken down. I released much of
the Jesus words of the Jesus papers of the Essenes and shared the Enoch
timetable with friendliness with the view of exploring the texts and sharing.
Even though UI was taken down its no big deal, no problem. I do understand,
however the truth was as I see it. If most of mankind even all the religions of
the world reject the message of Eden at the end of the day. I get the feeling
that no more can be done to get a message across.
However I must say that in the last week there has a few good signs that I've
observed like the Fox TV crew being released immediately. The news report in
Iraq where I felt I saw a renewed expression for peace and underlying
confidence. I don't do see so much terrorist stuff on TV over here. Maybe
because its Ramadan, perhaps but I hope it lasts and maybe with what I released
upset a few but maybe the message did get through.
Well I hope so because violence is no the Kingdom of Heaven be it Physic,
Physical or in word. I appreciate his forum and to me its like a little home in
this great adventure and work of a spiritual nature. Its a really adventure for
mankind and all these are stuck in the mud and they see it, some do, some don't.
Its all pretty soft.
Well its still a journey of faith, all hands on deck for the great flight in the
sea of peace. Its true it is a flight in heavenly sea of peace where the paths
are seven. At the last moment in the great desperate struggle for the great hope
for mankind stepping into territory that he has never ventured into, into the
spiritual realm of expansion through a great revealing like in a conjunction of
all our knowledge, everything.
Like Amom coming to set the record straight. All those books the Great Egyptian
Book of the Dead, The Bible, The Dead sea scrolls, the Book of Great Enoch and
his great advise, all the Psuedographia books are all books of Heaven that were
all written for this time. I'm so sure of that.
All written for the great Glory of our creator for that day. When it all comes
together in a seven pattern in time and space, in word and in discovery. Its a
day that is known on a day of destruction with real spiritual intent and is
connected to towers and scribes that are hiding, who counted them.
As I see it the message of the Sevenfold, its rearing it head on that day in
perfection of the Sevenfold pattern and a message that will be in reply to the
message of that day in Sept in 91.
And who knows that day may be marked by a great discovery of Eden in greater
detail and is given in honour to those who lives were needlessly lost in the
name of religion.
That to me sounds mighty fine to me and that what my feels sounds right. People
may disagree, some don't but I'm sure glad that I can live in a country where we
I can feely think and seek to explore without fear.
I reckon God really loves that, I reckon he wants to show all his glory in
goodness. I'm sure God wants to impress all of us , Like a Father impressing his
son and his son reacting like WOW and impressed all in the name of love and
discovery. I think there is much light and blessings there.
Hi found this description of what I believe is the location
of Cyprus in the Book of Enoch.
[list]
[*]Enoch Chapter 8
http://reluctant-messenger.com/2enoch01-68.htm
[*]4 [b] Its root is in the garden at the earth’s end.[/b]
5And [b] paradise [/b]is between corruptibility and incorruptibility.
6 [b] And two springs come out[/b] which send forth honey and milk, and their
springs send forth oil and wine, and they separate [b] into four parts, and go
round with quiet course,[/b] and go [b] down into the [/b](the canals, wall) [b]
PARADISE OF EDEN, [/b](city/Eden/Atlantis) [b] between corruptibility and
incorruptibility.[/b]
[/list]
I thought that was interesting, 2 springs and the association with Eden and
Paradise and the waters that feed the rivers of Eden. Also in the Book of Noah
within Enoch there is a clear description of the Deluge that I feel links to the
location.
Its a snapshot description of the submerged location.
However in reading this I know people may think he is talking about heaven,
however Im not to sure of that. Whilst that maybe true it could very well
indirectly be speaking of the location.
food for thought and
Hi found this description of
what I believe is the location of Cyprus in the Book of Enoch.
5And paradise is between corruptibility and
incorruptibility.
6 And two springs come out which send forth honey and milk,
and their springs send forth oil and wine, and they separate
into four parts, and go round with quiet course, and go
down into the (the canals, wall) PARADISE OF EDEN,
(city/Eden/Atlantis) between corruptibility and
incorruptibility.
I thought that was interesting, 2 springs and the association with
Eden and Paradise and the waters that feed the rivers of Eden. Also
in the Book of Noah within Enoch there is a clear description of the
Deluge that I feel links to the location.
Its a snapshot description of the submerged location.
However in reading this I know people may think he is talking about
heaven, however Im not to sure of that. Whilst that maybe true it
could very well indirectly be speaking of the location.
8Blessed are the just
who shall escape the great judgment, for they shall shine forth
more than the sun sevenfold, for in this world the seventh
part is taken off from all, light, darkness, food, enjoyment,
sorrow, paradise, torture, fire, frost, and other things; he put
all down in writing, that you might read and understand.
and Isaiah, another Sevenfold parallel conjucntion.
Isaiah 30:26 Moreover
the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the
light of the sun shall be sevenfold as the light of seven
days, in the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach of his
people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.
9And they made a great
feast, rejoicing and making merry three days, praising God, who
had given them such a sign through Enoch, who had found favour
with him, and that they should hand it on to their sons from
generation to generation, from age to age.
10Amen.
and then here is another description in Isaiah a clear description
of whats happening.
Isaiah 58:11 And the Lord shall guide thee continually, and
satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou
shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water,
whose waters fail not.
12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old
waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many
generations; and thou shalt be called,
The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell
in.
Definately the current reality.
And here is one from Amos
Link
Amos 9 11 In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that
is fallen, and [b] close up the breaches thereof; and I
will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of
old:
All the same reality as expressed. Here is another from Job.
link
Job 38 20 That thou shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and
that thou shouldest know the paths to the house thereof?
here is one from Job 38
Link
11 He bindeth the floods from overflowing; and the thing that
is hid bringeth he forth to light.
and here is one from The Egyptian Book of the Dead
And thou shalt say: I
have come, I have advanced hastily. I cast light upon his (the
deceased's) footsteps. I am hidden, but I cast light upon his
hidden place.
and lastly here is on Jesus ' words from the Jesus Papers of the
essenes.
"Peace I bring to
thee, my children,
The Sevenfold Peace
Of the Earthly Mother
And the Heavenly Father.
Peace I bring to thy body,
Guided by the Angel of Power; Peace I bring to thy heart,
Guided by the Angel of Love; Peace I bring to thy mind,
Guided by the Angel of Wisdom. Through the Angels of
Power, Love and Wisdom,
Thou shalt travel the Seven Paths Job 38 "the paths" The
1st Eden connection.
Of the Infinite Garden,
(1st Eden of Cyprus)
And thy body, thy heart and thy mind The full revelatory
experience.
Shall join in Oneness
The great mystery, The conjunction of knowledge
In the Sacred Flight to the Heavenly Sea of Peace.
The Holy expeditions to the 1st Garden of Eden.
Yea, I tell thee truly,
Jesus Speaks
The paths are seven
The sevenfold truth is all about this place, Jesus in this
presentation is presenting the future the current reality. He is
givng us a message now! right now sooo years ago.
Through the Infinite Garden,
Its related directly to 1st Eden and its the truth, its
confirmation, a major revelation at this point and are huge
connection. Jesus is presenting the end scenarion and the right
personalities recorded it.
And each must be traversed
It affects everyone all mankind.
By the body, the heart and the mind As one,
Its a complete experience in revelation that effects everything,
ita all consuming.
Lest thou stumble
fall in Disbelief this could be the problem...consider all things.
Into the abyss of emptiness.
one could be very disappointed in this, it could be an experience
of regret for some.
For as a bird cannot fly with one wing,
You need to know this information to survive.
So doth thy Bird of Wisdom
You need wisdom its the key.
Need two wings of Power and Love
You need power and love.
To soar above the abyss
To be taken up.
To the Holy Tree of Life.
This is ultimate end of the journey it leads to the tree of life
and the Garden
Very much food for thought.
regards
Sevens
I agree also that Western Civilisation does has its weakness
and needs to improve themselves, like with any Government or any human system.
However there are many people in this system who sincerely love God, very much
and who do love there fellow man to which includes all man. I think its wrong
judge mankind just by Government. All man will be seen by his intent and
motivation and actions, this has nothing with Governments but the spiritual
brotherhood of man which is all about religion and what is within oneself and
what drives you. The more that is enhanced the better Government will be and the
less laws will be required as man will be guided by the goodness in his soul.
Judgement wont be based of doctrine or dogma of one family by the standards of
the universe, heaven or Paradise. Its upon that standard that all man will
judged upon. The deceptions wherever it lays will be exposed and dealt with. All
who has faith have to do is sit and wait and pray and improve themselves towards
there fellow brother and just have patience and be aware of the signs and just
be cool and quietly confident but not spiritually arrogant.
I am totally confident that all will be corrected for best interest of all
mankind. I have full confidence that the angels are working very hard on all
this but things have to happen in the perfected way and the universal pattern
seems to be coming together in perfection of the universe which is all related
directly to religion. Its a global wake up call but there is much positive for
people who believe and have faith within themselves. Having that the light will
begin to shine from within.
I know in some of my posts I might of upset some people, sorry for that however
I still feel unmoved in what I think about this scenario. Personally I want all
religions to be successfull, no matter who. There should be no division
anywhere. I just say hang in there have great faith it will all work out fine
and continue to walk the peaceful path, I feel its front of us and is coming to
pass. But we have to see what occurs. Its quite inspiring.
regards
sevens
Here is another excerpt out
of the Jesus papers of the Essenes.
The Angel of Eternal
Life,
The Angel is the Sevenfold angel who brings the message from Eden.
Who brings the message of eternity
The message of Eden from the Angels to man.
To man.
The message will given to man
For he who walks with the Angels
Walks and confers with the Angels about all kinds of discoveries.
Shall learn to soar
Taken up and learning the truth of God.
Above the clouds,
Heaven
And his home shall be
Eden and it truth shall be his home
In the Eternal Sea
Submerged in the Sea.
Where stands the sacred Tree of Life.
The tree of Life of Eden, the message of Eden.
Do not wait for death
Reference to judgment
To reveal the great mystery;
The Eden/Paradise mystery found in the all the books.
If you know not your Heavenly Father
Become familiar with the knowledge of the father.
While your feet tread the dusty soil,
In this time.
There shall be naught but shadows for thee
Association with deception that will hold no truth.
In the life that is to come.
At the beginning of the judgement process one will realise this
but it could be to late?
Anyway I thought that was incredible.
The keywords I was drawn to was.
The Angel
Eternal Life
the message
To man
walks with the Angels
learn to soar
Above the clouds
his home
Eternal Sea
stands
Tree of Life
To reveal
the great mystery
Amazing keywords, such reassurance of what to expect and its direct
association with Eden in the infinite garden in the eternal sea of
peace.
Incredible find from Jesus' words for this time right know.
regards
sevens
And here is the Mystery
revealed to you. Again from the Sevenfold Angel.
Here and now
Today, now.
Is the mystery revealed.
The great mystery is revealed before your eyes.
Here and now
In this present day, we are in the end time scenario.
Is the curtain lifted.
All hidden will be revealed (Enoch)
Be not afraid, O man!
Dont fear judgement have faith.
Lay hold of the wings of the
Hold on to the truth.
Angel of Eternal Life,
Sevenfold angel
And soar into the paths of the stars,
Familiarisation of the knowledge of the ancients.
The moon, the sun,
I think all main religions
And the endless Light,
The eternal light of truth.
Moving around in their
Universal circuits.
Revolving circle forever,
Eternity
And fly toward the Heavenly Sea Of Eternal Life
Keywords:
Here and now
mystery revealed
curtain lifted
Be not afraid
Lay hold
the wings
Angel of Eternal Life
soar
paths of the stars
endless Light
Revolving circle
fly toward
Heavenly
Sea Of Eternal
Here is an excerpt out of Revelation 11 which could be a clue to the
ROV going down to the location.
Revelation:11
1And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the
angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the
altar, and them that worship therein.
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out,
and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and
the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two
months.
then further into the chapter.
19 And the temple of
God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple
the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and
voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.
It would be quite an endorsement, Whilst this part maybe speculation
it could be very much the reality upon the discovery of the ark of
his testament, which testament? All testimonies.
Also this maybe a further clue to what may occur upon the discovery
of his testament, mind you its is speculation.
15 And the seventh
angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven,
saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of
our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever
and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on
their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art,
and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy
great power, and hast reigned. 18
and The Egyptian Book of the Dead.
Only One, thou maker
of the things that are, thou hast fashioned the tongue
of the Company of the Gods, thou hast produced whatsoever
cometh forth from the waters, thou springest up out of them
above the submerged land of the Lake of Horus.
I hope your well and finding much stuff. Its unreal finding and matching all
this knowledge. Surely it must be only 5% of what is within the books. It really
needs a bunch of scholars to go through all this, however its fun finding all
this, Its just all consuming and fun, fun, and more fun. God is just fun when it
comes to being shown the great mystery and he wants us to find enjoyment and
inspiration.
Its so auxillerating to find the mind of God through the prophets. To me they
brought so much enjoyment to us. I know if I'm having fun I know that future
generations will also have to same fun finding Eden and really become close to
God like a Big Daddy that you could have 100% confidence in.
Even though the whole scenario is quite serious However, I think there is a real
fun and inspiring side to the whole experience. I think God just wants those who
have faith to have bit of fun in this and to enjoy this as there is nothing to
fear at all. Nothing.
Also Ideo I thought your Cayce input was great, certainly said alot about today.
You know he probably saw much of what is happening today and in the past. I was
impressed and is just another example of God delivering the right stuff at the
right time to inspire researchers of Goodness and Truth in all forms.
Anyway I would be keen to see the your latest finds. It could unlock or add to
the great secrets and mystery.
Its all good stuff, I'm sure we all on it and being led in a most profound way
which is written about, I'm sure of that.
All the best and great stuff. Also Ideo I would be interested in looking at your
Nostradamus research. I would be fascinated by that. I haven't done work on him
at all. I would like to see what you think and how Nostradamus links in. I
wonder if he saw Eden? Also I glad we can connect, its really good to work with
a fellow inspired researcher who is also on to it and willing to share and
explore further meanings into things. I reckon that is what its all about. I
have no doubt that this is a most high project of holiness. Im sure there are 3
seraphims working on this. There probably part of the Sevenfold educational
planetary school pursuant of truth and righteousness. Totaly Melchizedek, just
simple and loving faith of a child and the angels just guide you to fulfilment
in discovery and exploration, in physical and in word. The conjunction with
Paradise perfection.
All I know that they are looking for next month, However I have no idea on dates
or anything like that.
As you know Bob (The digga!) is the keyman in all of this and really depends
much of his personal experience in co-ordination of all the project realities.
But I heard all is well and on target, that's all i know.
However, me personally I don't want to know specific dates at this moment
because I want to see how the realities work out in the natural sense and see
how they coordinate particularly in conjunction with my calculation.
I just want to see the mountain move by faith alone with keenness.
Ahh See what happens!
We all await with suspense and intrigue, a real mystery eh! that gets man going
and motivates him in faith and wonder.
I personally think that revelation from God does not stop ,it keeps on going
from one Generation to another. Its a continual river of renewal and
expansion. All mankind is growing slowly but surely to the goal. Also the
new testament is largely made up of writings of personal experience of man
with God. Also some books where written in the third hand to. I wouldn't get
to stuck on this as every religion has a product or record of mans
experience with God. The problem is when man thinks he is righter than his
fellow spiritual brother and imposes his truth on his fellow man through
fear that where I feel it goes wrong. Man, the individual has to see it, in
truth for himself, to know the truth.
The only problem is when man imposes his will upon others and basically
takes his spiritual freedoms away to explore the truth and also man loses
his spiritual individuality to explore, that's where I think crystallisation
occurs. I think God wants everyman to find God for himself as personal
experience using all the books, every scrap of them. We are all different
and that's why God personalises each experience in accordance to the persons
individuality and personality.
I just feel there is so much truth out there, all man has to do is find the
courage for himself to find God for himself as personal and individual
experience and not be guided by fear. All the books have truth within them
for each culture.
Here is a little excerpt from Jesus and don't worry about Israel thing,
every nation is involved in this. Jesus just happened to live there in the
culture of the Eastern Med.
I admonish you to give up the practice of always quoting the prophets
of old and praising the heroes of Israel, and instead aspire to become
living prophets of the Most High and spiritual heroes of the coming
kingdom.
To honor the God-knowing leaders of the past may indeed be worth while,
but why, in so doing, should you sacrifice the supreme experience
of human existence: finding God for yourselves and knowing him in your own
souls?
Here another excerpt from Jesus and good for all mankind, The Quran from
what I see gives respect to Jesus, we are not talking about Chrisitanity ,
we are only drawing from Jesus, the man/prophet and his words and its
relevance to us all in support of your personal spiritual quest with
goodness.
Revealed truth, personally discovered truth, is the supreme delight
of the human soul; it is the joint creation of the material mind and the
indwelling spirit.
The eternal salvation of this truth-discerning and beauty-loving soul
is assured by that hunger and thirst for goodness which leads this mortal
to develop a singleness of purpose to do the Father's will, to find God
and to become like him.
There is never conflict between true knowledge and truth.
There may be conflict between knowledge and human beliefs, beliefs
colored with prejudice, distorted by fear, and dominated by the dread of
facing new facts of material discovery or spiritual progress
I believe this is where its all going.
all the best
regards
sevens
Its a pity that there is so much fear perpetuated by all the main religions
against one another, everyone is missing the point by acting in this arrogant
way.
Why don't the makers of these webs instead of creating trouble, join in
discussion and try and work it out rather than this him against me attitude.
Again is that perpetuation of fear to motivate man, which is against the
universal ideal.
Hopefully things on this level will get better.
Also note that Christianity has to go through a big wake up to, they are not
immured by the disciplinary actions of God regarding his spiritual brotherhood
of man. At this time they are far to judgmental for there own good and even
worse because of this blindness when a new revelation appears they don't see
it and overlook it and beat it down because again of that fear aspect. I must
say they talk allot but they have trouble listening to there own advise, they
too will have to humble themselves.
No one escapes spiritual arrogance. All one has to do in this time is have
patience, sit, wait and pray hard with goodness and the leave the judgement to
God as he knows the construct of each mind and the pattern of thoughts of each
person. Which can be seen by the Neuro patterns of the brain and where they
congregate within the brain. These are the physical aspects of the brain and I
think can be equated to the mark of the forehead which relates to your
thoughts and the Neuro pattern of thinking it represents.
regards
sevens
Hi Lone ranger.
I personally wish that all religions would come together and find a little
brotherhood instead of conflict based on dogma. I been reading a little of
the Quran and identified many commonalties a few differences in light of
this I believe the walls of these divisions should be overcome through
sharing of knowledge for mutual benefit of mankind.
In essence despite the differences we are all the children of God but in
different families where we all enjoy the same things like truth beauty
and goodness in our personal lives, well most people. I think it is
totally inline with the universal ideal of God. The only thing that
divides mankind is mans interpretations of script and the righter than you
attitude which can lead to disastrous results or even where script can be
manipulated for ungodly acts for every party this is not exclusive as we
look in our past.
Personal Loneranger I think the decisions the church made in Europe many
centuries ago was a complete disaster and a total mismanagement of
religion. The war should of never happened and look what resulted. Im sure
this hurt that we see goes back so far and is drawn upon in conflict and
in anger. The more I see this the more I understand the origins of this
feeling.
I just pray to God that all will work out for the best direction to some
reconciliation of the past.
I think its high time that division was put away and a realisation of
brotherhood in God as a personal experience should be researched and
shared. I really do have faith that is possible I know there is a
independent new revelation related to Jesus directly that will expand our
whole understanding of the universe in a sevenfold way. I believe this is
the sevenfold presentation of Paradise is here as we leave one age into
another age. I'm am quite sure that the only thing left standing at the
end of the day is the truth and any falseness in any script of God will be
dealt with. That what I think. Gee i Just saw another news report.
anyway all the best
regards
sevens
All III say is that every revelation has to be tested on all levels and
there is a new revelation that has passed on all levels which is designed
for the world. This revelation fulfils all prophecy and is part, I believe
judgement and its process.
Everything that is in the process now was all seen thousands of years ago
and does fulfil the prophecy in the Quran. I noticed in one of the
prophecies of the Quran that it will be replaced overnight.
Can anyone explain that phenomena?? What occurrence would happen for that to
happen? The only scenario that I see that would fulfil that would be a
judgement process where all truth would be refined into a new presentation
of the Paradise for man, a presentation that conjuncts in knowledge,
time/space, infinity or eternal and all levels.
Just recently I placed a judgement scenario on a thread in this forum that
was specific about the process drawing on the scripts between 6000 - 2000
years old and it was taken down and now I see a similar thread with mainly
personal opinions drawing from one book. I don't think that was very fair.
I tried to demonstrate my religious research in connection to our destiny
and it was taken down how can I defend myself or present something if its
taken down and on top it I have to justify myself where I cant.
Any new true and new revelation must follow the laws of Paradise, which is
simple, love one another and follow that in your heart and love your
brothers, all of them and share the gift and the path of revelation,
personal relationship with God. In truth, beauty and Goodness. I would say
that would be a good standard of revelation.
All I know that from my personal path in this journey in discovering Eden in
the scripts is a revelatory journey of all proportions and is fit for all
mankind. Again this revelation in total has passed all the requirements in
physical and spiritual and does not discount any prophecy in all the books
that was ever made by all sincere and honest prophets where ever they are.
In the Quran I feel strongly that its pointing this occurrence but its how
it pans out that's what has to be observed because no one knows the complete
picture as every religion has a piece of the puzzle. But when you combine
all the truth you have this Paradise picture full of splendour which is
omnipotent and all encompassing of all truth and expanded truth.
That's what I think so far in this mystery.
regards
sevens
Hi Absonite, I enjoyed reading about Moses, as I was reading it I noticed a
time marker (perhaps).
It was this
simultaneous onslaughts of a strong [b]Libyan thrust [/b]from the south and a
[b]Greek naval invasion from the north[/b],
I was interested if there are Greek records that record this fact.
[b]Greek naval invasion from the north[/b] So the Egyptians where under attack
from 2 sides I wonder if the Egyptians lost considering they lost some of
their army chasing after Moses.
If there are records of this Greek onslaught I think there is that will give
us better time frame of Moses and the particular Pharaoh in charge. When that
is discovered on could work back to accurate dates of Iknanton, Sinuhe, Joseph
being 4 generations from Abraham.
Could be an interesting Study.
Regards
sevens
Hi Sarah
I have to say it was quite distressing to see these links.
I hope there is a positive solution that comes to this problem
sometime soon. I'm trying over there myself to inject some balance,
I think I'm making some positive breakthroughs I think. I hope. Its
a real upside down world.
I noticed your verse I found this one take heart.
Amos 9 11 In that
day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and
close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and
I will build it as in the days of old:
But through a revelatory planetary worldwide revealing experience
where all error will be banished and the covenant of God/David will
be fulfilled forever with all his people.
I have no doubt about that considering the journey we are personally
on. I think Eden is very much part of it, in the fulfilment of it.
I reckon this is a real Melchizedek operation and is of the
Sevenfold truth and I have real confidence in that, however I feel
this truth is an open opportunity for all man who hails from all
religion to partake in this. Its not exclusive but the ancient
covenants and promises of God will be fulfilled. Alright!
I feel the spirit of the fulfilment of the covenants will be
fulfilled in the Spirit of Jesus, In that spirit of love containing
truth, beauty and goodness. I feel the opportunities will be offered
in that spirit of the high priest of the Father, The God of family
and of Love for one another which is ultimate commandment of
spiritual brotherhood of mankind which has no boundaries.
I hope you didn't mind that last part.
Gee Sarah I just noticed the Chapter and verse of the above. Chapter
9 verse 11 Amos 9:11....911...September 11, in that day.
Ok, If I look into it further, the 10 week in the seventh part found
in Enoch equates to Sept 11 from the 4th July... 70 days?? Also
connects with Ezras 70 days. On the run.
Fair dinkum Sarah, I just noticed that. That was a time/space
experience of compulsion from within of feeling and realising
something after the compulsion or action that connects with the
hypothesis of the time frame thread that I'm following.
From the Enoch prospective. In the ninth week the earth is set for
destruction. In other words maybe this process is now irreversible,
like in the process....Perhaps and whatever mans thinks it makes no
difference as the process wont stop. Perhaps we have to see what
occurs perhaps in that day.
I'm walking in faith. Maybe God knows the response already and is
not waiting any longer and since the paths have been revealed for
sometime he knows the response ..perhaps! Maybe I'm trying to
extract to much but when you combine all theme of the messages of
all the relevant scripts in time process it paints a clear picture
and is numerically consistent with the overall message and time.
Ok Im going to look into it further in the scripts and share what I
see and then people can make up there own minds up.
The following Enoch extract is out of this now mind you all this is
based on personal experience it could right or wrong. I do this in
the name of truth discovery. Now all this is based on a 4th July
proclamation that was made about a test what I thought at the time
was a 40 days test but through discovery shaped into the following
scenario. So 70 days after 4th July onwards, 10 weeks, falls on
September 11th Made in compulsion on 4th July in the first week, 7th
part, 7th month in the first week. In the moment thing and then I
started discover all of this in greater detail along the journey in
time.
So here is Enoch when he was born or when the seal was broken and
the process was discovered.
Section V. XCI-CIV (i.e. XCII, XCI. 1-1O, 18-19, XCIII. 1-1O, XCI.
12-17, XCIV-CIV.).
A Book of Exhortation and Promised Blessing for the Righteous and of
Malediction and Woe for the Sinners.
[Chapter 92]
3 And Enoch began to recount from the books and said:
' I was born the seventh in the first week,
While judgement and righteousness still endured.
(He was born, the process began, beforehand the information
revealed, discovered. recount from the books, our direct experience.
ok thats when it started, if we go to the 10 week in the Seventh
part, I think the 7th day. Sept 11th we again see the message of sme
type as in Amos as in first above.
Here is Enoch
15 And after this,
in the tenth week in the seventh part,
There shall be the great eternal judgement,
In which He will execute vengeance amongst the angels.
(The end in the Tenth week in the Seventh part or the Sevenfold
part. Falls on September 11th
16 And the first heaven shall depart and pass away,
And a new heaven shall appear,
And all the powers of the heavens shall give sevenfold light.
17 And after that there will be many weeks without number for
ever,
And all shall be in goodness and righteousness,
And sin shall no more be mentioned for ever.
and then you have the Isaiah connection
Isaiah 30:26 Moreover
the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the
light of the sun shall be sevenfold as the light of seven
days, in the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach of his
people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.
I'm sure its the same day as in Amos
and of course you have the description on what happened in that day
in the past.
25 And there shall be
upon every high mountain, and upon every high hill, rivers and
streams of waters in the day of the great slaughter, when the
towers fall. (reference to cities or is this a reference to
911, the towers.)
and we know the scribes who did that.
I can show you if you want. But there is enough food for thought.
I hope there is some good parallels there.
so if I combine all the "in the/that days" of all these scripts
alone here is you have.
Amos 9:11
In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is
fallen, and close up the breaches thereof;
(looking into the future.)
Isaiah30:26 in the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach of
his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.
(looking into the future.)
Isaiah30:25 in the day of the great slaughter, when the towers
fall.
(reflecting in the past.) (time/space)
Maybe there is a few more that relates to this.
Note that "in that day " in Amos we are looking to future. But then
in Isaiah 30:26 and 25 like Amos are looking to the future as
indicated by the use of "In the day". At the same time in pervious
verse we are looking to the past reflecting on the Towers that fell.
and then in Amos 9:11 last part, the process.
Amos 9:11(verse
extract) and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in
the days of old:
(The Promise)
I would suggest we are in the time space moment of clam before the
storm.
Hi here is a link I did just focusing
on the verse 11 in each of chapters in Isaiah and Zechariah. I suppose it
reading the bible sideways. The best thing I think is to read the verse in
context between verses 9 and 11 and beyond to get a better prospective.
It quite a fascinating thing reading the bible sideways and I've highlighted in
dark red most of the verse 11's and some others I found interesting. Mind you
this can be applied to all the books with verses 9 and 11. Its worth
experimenting with to see if there is consistent message for today?? Its all a
very consistent message, well in my view
Hi here is a link I did just focusing
on the verse 11 in each of chapters in Isaiah and Zechariah. I suppose its
reading the bible sideways in a 3 dimensional way. The best thing I think is to
read the verse in context between verses 9 and 11 and beyond to get a better
prospective.
It quite a fascinating thing reading the bible sideways and I've highlighted in
dark red most of the verse 11's and some others I found interesting. Mind you
this can be applied to all the books with verses 9 and 11. Its worth
experimenting with, to see if there is a consistent message for today?? Its all
seems very consistent, well in my view.
Its a 3d way of reading the bible I suppose following the particular verses
throughout each chapter and book and you can read vertical, up and down in
context.
I suppose you could go deep in another way for example every 7th verse in every
7th book in every seventh chapter and see what message it may behold.
take into account the Jesus UB birth date of August 21st 7BC. Know August 21st
(Seventh week 7 the day Enoch) that 21 days before Sept 11. (End of 10th week
Enoch) There could be a clue. Just bare in mind 7 years out, earlier.
getting more bizarre all the time
here is what Isaac mentions and was a part of his study.
I went to the Hadith and and did a word search on stones.
I found this extract
." The Prophet added, "Then they raised the
foundations of the House (i.e. the Ka'ba). Ishmael brought
the stones and Abraham was building, and when the walls became high,Ishmael brought this stone and put it for Abraham
who stood over it and carried on building, while Ishmael was handing him
the stones, and both of them were saying, 'O our Lord! Accept (this
service) from us, Verily, You are the All-Hearing, the
All-Knowing.' The Prophet added, "Then both of
them went on building and going round the Ka'ba saying: O our Lord !
Accept (this service) from us, Verily, You are the All-Hearing,
the All-Knowing." (2.127)
I not sure whether Im allowed to offer my thoughts on this extract so you
guys have to guide me here. I dont want to upset anyone. No one alright.
You know I thought this was interesting that Ishmael and Abraham were working
with Stones together, building the temple, Stone by stone praising Allah.
To me thats like two families working together building the spritual temple of
Allah. I can see all possibility happening here.
"Then they raised the foundations of the House
How brilliant is that
Then they raised....the foundations....together...
That sounds like unity in the raising of the foundation. It also speaks in the
future timeline noting "then they raised". and the ..."The Foundations"
You know exactly what those "foundations" maybe...hint! You know what Im
referring to.
Am I reading this right? You have to correct me here if Im wrong. But I see
alot in these verses of the future and good things for both families.
regards
sevens
No problem
I agree with much of the above however I think there are things that are quite
different with this discovery and is far reaching which effects every part of
our lives including religion.
I feel that this isn't just a discovery of the norm, I think there is much more
to this and should be discussed because that is the truth and why restrict the
exploration of it and where it leads to, I'm sure that's part of the great
mystery about the place of which the UB is only one of many references to this
place and is strewn all across our BC books of the past, everyone one of them
and there very specific.
Are people that fearful to explore new possibilities that widen and expands his
personal experience of truth.
You know anyone can post whatever idea they think and no one is going to jump
down there throats like they do on other forums.
Everyone is respected here. Well I know I like everyone here. I think there is
real brotherhood here. That makes me feel comfortable where I can share my ideas
with like minded people.
Its unbelievable, everyday there something turning up from a rock that is all
connected and becomes more intense in the Space/time continuum. Its just full on
for me. Everything about this place was well documented. It truly changes
everything.
That's what I reckon.
Personally, I think its a time of real rally of truth and its identification in
all areas and combined. Its such an education in such a fantastic journey, Just
incredible. A great for all the families of the world because its that element
that has to be strengthened.
all the best
sevens
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006
1:19 pm Post subject: discovery of
atlantis
No problem I agree with much of the
above however I think there are things that are quite different with this
discovery and is far reaching which effects every part of our lives
including religion.
I feel that this isn't just a discovery of the norm, I think there is much
more to this and should be discussed because that is the truth and why
restrict the exploration of it and where it leads to, I'm sure that's part
of the great mystery about the place of which the UB is only one of many
references to this place and is strewn all across our BC books of the past,
everyone one of them and there very specific.
Are people that fearful to explore new possibilities that widen and expands
his personal experience of truth.
You know anyone can post whatever idea they think and no one is going to
jump down there throats like they do on other forums.
Everyone is respected here. Well I know I like everyone here. I think there
is real brotherhood here. That makes me feel comfortable where I can share
my ideas with like minded people.
Its unbelievable, everyday there something turning up from a rock that is
all connected and becomes more intense in the Space/time continuum. Its just
full on for me. Everything about this place was well documented. It truly
changes everything.
That's what I reckon.
Personally, I think its a time of real rally of truth and its identification
in all areas and combined. Its such an education in such a fantastic
journey, Just incredible. A great experience for all the families of the
world because its that element that has to be strengthened for our future.
I just want to thank God for all many great blessings that comes out of the
Branches of Atlantis/Eden/Paradise truly the desire of God to bestow upon a
real great blessings that connects space/time/eternity for man.
Exactly as described in Plato to a tee and not to mention all the
prophetical books. Brilliant, the mind of God. Its just sensational for
religion and everything else and the great UB is right in the middle of it.
This the biggest thing since sliced bread and all the induviduals connected
with this are working flat out in the operations of the universe in there
part. That means everyone in spiritual and in physical. You know money, fame
and all that is far down the priority list, believe me the truth behind this
place is just transcendental, sublime and supernal...The gravity of all this
way is above all that stuff...truly.
The power of truth that comes out from the location is enough to inspire any
man who is willing to research it, no matter what his condition is. Becuase
it this knowledge and the living experience that will revitalise his soul.
Thats what man needs a revitalisation of the Soul, the connection. Thats the
ingredients that change our environment around us.
If man could embrace the totality of this he would know that there is
absolutely nothing to fear, concerning his future. Nothing at all to fear.
Nothing! He would realise that fear is only an illusion that is perpetuated
and can be dealt with with truth. I feel that where our future lays in
truth.
all the best and great blessings
sevens
I been studying the problem with Islam and Chrsitianity
Here is what I found about Islam and its Hikack of the Christian beliefs and
perpetuated by Abner.
I hope you're well, Yes I checked out the liberty forum, I didn't
last long there as its pretty ugly and full of hate. I don't last
long on those forums.
However I'm thinking of a post. But I think I'm stretched for time
to get involved in another forum. Since being on the other Anyway
forum I've had to modify myself just to stay there. As a part of my
research I've been looking into the Quran to see if I could find
commonalities.
I'm quite impressed of how many parallels there are to the scenario.
I must say its been a real eye opener to see parallel truths but I
could never understand the division between these religious family,
Notably Christian and Islam.
As you know I read the Urantia Book and use it a guide So I did a
word search on Islam to see if I could find some extra knowledge
that could define the problem of why there this division today. I
was surprised with what I found.
Here is an excerpt from one of the links in the main link.
The following really says it all.
The many religions of
Urantia are all good to the extent that they bring man to God and
bring the realization of the Father to man. It is a fallacy for
any group of religionists to conceive of their creed as The Truth;
such attitudes bespeak more of theological arrogance than of
certainty of faith.
There is not a Urantia religion that could not profitably study
and assimilate the best of the truths contained in every other
faith, for all contain truth.
Religionists would do better to borrow the best in their
neighbours' living spiritual faith rather than to denounce the
worst in their lingering superstitions and outworn rituals.
Apparently a lot of the problems that we have today between both
religion stem out of a division of Paul thoughts on the trinity and
the thoughts of Abner who was in charge of the Philadelphian church
which was independent from Jerusalem. Abner was in contact with the
Jesus the whole time but after his death when things became more
defined he found it hard to accept the Pauline idea of the Trinity
concept. I think Abner took this to personally and isolated himself
for the rest of his life and perpetuated his own church that ran by
the Jesus truth but a few different ideas over doctrine.
So you had the Eastern church of Jesus and the Western Church of
Jesus and the 2 never saw quite eye to eye. The was miscomprehension
of the trinity concept and other racial things bore out of that.
This division occurs virtually straight away after Jesus ascension.
I would say around 40AD or so the division became apparent and
perpetuated.
No doubt there would of been a collection of writings of this
Eastern branch that was pre Islamic and was probably was not
regarded or recognised by the Western branch. However this Eastern
branch perpetuated in the East as a Christian group following the
teachings of John the Baptist and Abner the Eastern representation
of Jesus words and this Church still survives today. However, 600BC
Mohammed came took over the whole region and began social and
religious reconstruction which delivered the Quran that beheld many
of Abners ideas and personal thoughts handed down over time if not
all, compiled a book including stemming out of the very earlier
beliefs stemming from Jesus containing in doctrine the disagreement
between Abner and Paul which is apparent.
Note that the Quran does recognise Jesus as prophet but not the
ideas of trinity and because of that you have bias and division.
It was all over a disagreement of doctrine, it had nothing to do
with Jesus words in truth.
The picture I see in connection to this journey of Eden. Is that I
get the feeling and picture that God may use Eden and an attempt to
dispel this error or division in both churches and may include a few
more.
I feel Jesus is going gather his church, all of his church unto
himself through Eden and the knowledge it represents. That would all
the churches and Judaism and all the other churches. But as far as
Christianity and Islam this would be the issue that would be sorted
out.
Isn't that incredible God coming down to sort out the mess between
his spiritual brotherhood/family himself. I am going on gut feeling
here, however the construct in discovery through the Quran and
knowing what we know seems like a perfect construct and falls into
place with the current scenario. In other words the picture seems to
be forming in the reality.
In the Quran in one of its prophecy says that the Quran, everything
will disappear one day and all believers go to paradise. In relation
to the construct I can see that happening in a way that Jesus,
Paradise and local personalties come down, all truth is refined
through an adjudication process where truth only will be left
standing and then compiled in a super book of religion including all
the past relevant books and info and connected with the new book.
All the books including the truth only books of the Quran and other
compiles. All error in any book will be discounted.
So then we have a super book with all the book in including the
Urantia Book and other relevant truth books. In response to this all
the religions will be amalgamated into one religion for the future
as a religion of personal religion between God and man without
prejudice and filthy stuff.
I'm sure there will be a demonstration that will happen in the
physical and spiritual and will be undeniable and world wide. There
will be much mercy however all the ugliness on every level will be
dealt with. I'm afraid this goes for all However, knowing the truth
makes you very peaceful and positively expectant.
Everything I feel will judged, a plumbline of no violence and
obedience has been drawn in the sand and has been presented and
rejected. I don't think I can do anymore than release mysterious
warnings to be vigilant without either being taken down or abused.
But I will do a bit of it because still has to be informed.
I released what I posted originally I would world war 3 on my hands.
God will just have to sort it out for us. In our personal
reflections of the short term past, a full scale war has died down
things are on track and we are still in the journey of faith, the
exact path that I feel is the right path, in the path to the truth.
The path of truth and discovery and the unrepealed, revealed.
If I go into my little the test scenario, according to my
calculations we have come out of the 9th week where, according to
Enoch the earth has been set for destruction, I feel this could be
because of rejection and nothing more can be really done. The stage
is set! we are entering into the tenth week. In this week according
to Enoch the Judgment process will begin particularly in the seventh
part which I calculate on the 4th July proclamation Sept 11th. that
is the last day the 7th day of the 10th week. That is the 70th day,
this fits the Daniel and Ezra 70 days.
Its either that day or no day as far as my research is concerned.
Also III extend an extra 3 days to that because three days are
important.
Also looking at the days leading up to Sept 11th in my hemisphere.
Friday 8th
Saturday 9th-----Jesus died
Sunday 10th Jesus resurrection
Monday 11th
Ascension May 18th
I find it interesting how the timing of the test seems to fall in
the same day timing as the sept 11th construct.
Anyway here is Jesus ascension words
"I bade you tarry in Jerusalem until you were endowed with
power from on high. I am now about to take leave of you; I am
about to ascend to my Father, and soon, very soon, will we send
into this world of my sojourn the Spirit of Truth; and when
he has come, you shall begin the new proclamation of the
gospel of the kingdom, first in Jerusalem and then to the
uttermost parts of the world. Love men with the love
wherewith I have loved you and serve your fellow mortals even as
I have served you. By the spirit fruits of your lives impel
souls to believe the truth that man is a son of God, and that
all men are brethren. Remember all I have taught you and the
life I have lived among you. My love overshadows you, my
spirit will dwell with you, and my peace shall abide upon you.
Farewell."
When the morontia Master had thus spoken, he vanished from their
sight. This so-called ascension of Jesus was in no way different
from his other disappearances from mortal vision during the
forty days of his morontia career on Urantia.
about the Quran study here is a collection of commonalities that
I could find and some other interesting things.
Hi everyone, I'm a individual religionist, Ive been researching
the great mystery of Mankind for many years. I research all the religious BC
books and AD books. All of them in connection to Eden, the Garden of Eden and
the discovery of it. Cyprus.
Where ever I find the location in all the books including the Quran I find there
is judgement day attached to it. In all the books. Without going into it too
much there is another source info revealed that is pointing to this location and
is very serious about it.
Recently, Ive been studying the Quran and I can see all the signs in the Quran
but in the other books of religion and there all saying the same thing. Beware!
I'm telling you. Now is the time to be careful.
I'm not trying to convert no one to nothing at, all I'm saying in this post from
now up to Sept 11th plus 3 days just take it real easy. If you can resist
physical and spiritual violence then do it, because everyone is being reviewed
and tested in accordance to what's in there heart and there deeds and in
accordance to the standards of the universe as revealed in the new book for our
spiritual destiny. It is in prophecy and has proved itself. In essence the
message has been out there for sometime and has been rejected by all, but has
been embraced by very a marginal few. Because of that, prophecy will run its
course in parallel to what has been foreseen and prophesied in the past.
This goes for all religion, all man and all governments. Everyone. No one
escapes the review of God. I reckon its the time for correction and all the
signs seem to be appearing in the space/time continuum as written about and its
in the Quran (totally) and its all about Eden and its has a big message. Every
book of religion has a piece of the puzzle and when you combine all the pieces
together without all the error, you have this whole picture that is spread out
over the space/time in prophecy and reality that conjuncts to a literal event
designed for the future of the destiny of mankind and his spiritual welfare.
I'm not going into details because there is no time. But in this coming period
is the time to humble oneself, resist violence of any sort and self reflect upon
your inner thoughts and pray and read the Quran and all the other books of
religion you may venture into.
I'm telling you its close and all man will be seen by Heaven. Those who persist
in violence knowing the real truth runs risk. Paradise is here and is closeby
who is hovering and awaiting to see how man reacts to what is unfolding and is
being revealed. Basically its virtually a lost cause for the religions of the
day, there not doing there proper jobs.
In the next 8 days be real aware and vigilant and no psychic or physical
violence as there is a huge amount of scripts in all the books that prove that
violence is not path to Paradise and Paradise will not help those who involved
themselves in the discovery of terrors. this includes all sides.
Just spread the word, if you feel there is something going on and you are seeing
individual confirmations in the signs that are revealing itself. Just spread the
word, its time "to warn you fellow kinsman" that means all mankind this is not
exclusive.
I feel there is something very serious going on here, really bloody serious so
just take ok.
No don't hassle me anyone. I'm only doing this for everyone's benefit if I'm
right. If I'm wrong sorry for that ok.
regards
sevens
Edited by sevens on 09/05/06 06:24 PM.
Hi Nour of Islam,
Yes its been a great journey search through the Quran, I have found much
that confirms much of my research in all the other books. I have found
many connections and parallels. I'm very glad that I did research the
Quran and the Hadith books.
It has really been a great journey to find all this knowledge and its
connection. What I'm doing is finding the best of all the commonalities in
the each of all the books. Reading the Quran was the last step in the
journey and really confirms everything. A you know my research is related
to Eden and when I find Eden in the Quran I see all the same thing and
confirmations of the realities as I reflect back in time of the journey.
Its truly a blessings seeing this.
Anyway I wont go on.
He are some gems I found in the Quran that I want4d to share that I
relevant to the journey.
Here is what I thought was a gem
YUSUFALI: Be quick in the race for
forgiveness from your Lord, and for
a Garden whose width is that (of the whole) of the
heavens and of the earth, prepared for the
righteous,-
PICKTHAL: And vie one with another for forgiveness from your Lord,
and for a paradise as wide as are the heavens and the earth, prepared
for those who ward off (evil);
SHAKIR: And hasten to forgiveness from your Lord; and a
Garden, the extensiveness of which is (as) the heavens and the
earth, it is prepared for those who guard
(against evil).
I thought the above just says everything, Its a race upon realisation,
its all to do with forgiveness from your Lord so it must speaking about
the family of God as we discussed in the above. Its all do to with a
garden that is huge and wide, perhaps a discovery and the foundation that
was laid in our past is being raised in the discovery of it, in scripture
that is raising of the foundation thus refining the scripts in truth and
in discovery and the knowledge it extends to. A realisation in discovery
of our origins. The garden is related to Heaven and Earth and is prepared
for the righteous, those who believe with faith and in goodness. For those
who wait and pray.
That's what I see in the above.
I am so glad I didn't abandon this post a self defensive attitude, I'm
glad I made the wise choice to research the Quran at this time at the end
of the journey.
I'm glad I'm came and found all this great beautiful knowledge that
confirms all that I found previous.
All the best everyone its been a real blessing to find this.
Here is another Gem
015.045
YUSUFALI: The righteous (will be)
amid gardens and fountains (of
clear-flowing water).
PICKTHAL: Lo! those who ward off (evil) are
among gardens and watersprings.
SHAKIR: Surely those who guard (against
evil) shall be in the midst of gardens
and fountains:
and I found this
098.004
YUSUFALI: Nor did the People of the Book
make schisms, until after there came to them
Clear Evidence.
PICKTHAL: Nor were the People of the Scripture
divided until after the clear proof came unto
them.
SHAKIR: And those who were given the Book
did not become divided except after clear
evidence had come to them.
and I found this
088.001
YUSUFALI: Has the story reached thee of the
overwhelming (Event)?
PICKTHAL: Hath there come unto thee tidings of
the Overwhelming?
SHAKIR: Has not there come to you the news of
the overwhelming calamity?
I wonder what overwhelming calamity story? and in what is it connected
to?
Well we have to see on the day what the clear evidence is if the latter
extract is about Judgment.
Quite remarkable all saying the same things.
regards
sevens
For sure Via Mars 3 this
topic is pretty heavy.
Anyway Sarah, I found this link to St Ephraim he was is charge of the Eastern
Church of the Christians at around late 200AD to 300AD. They where apart and
not influenced by the Pauline church in the occident. I don't they agreed with
the trinity idea. I think the whole argument was adopted and perpetuated
through a lack of understanding.
Here is a link to the seven pearls of Hymns of Faith
Its quite remarkable there are so many keywords and connections. I'm sure
allot of this stuff were pre Islamic texts that where drawn upon in 600AD.
There might be clue to this.
I thought this was seriously important to the scenario. It a link to
St Ephraim and his seven Hymns of pearls (again the sevens) St
Ephraim was is charge of the Eastern Church of the Christians at
around late 200AD to 300AD. They where apart and not influenced by
the Pauline church in the occident. I don't think they agreed with
the trinity idea and this division continued. Apparently the Eastern
Church that you never heard off where influenced by Babylonian is
Hellenist ideas .. I think
Here is a link to the seven pearls of Hymns of Faith
Its quite remarkable there are so many keywords and connections. I'm
sure allot of this stuff were pre Islamic texts that where drawn
upon. Perhaps I'm searching that for myself.
This link has all the links and is the scenario and speaks of the
hidden things and the revealed things.
Here is glimpse of Solomon's Secret I believe it all about the
location and what's is happening now
Solomons End of
times mystery.
The Queen of Sheba was a sheep that had come into the place
of wolves; the lamp of truth did Solomon give her, who
also married her when he fell away. She was enlightened and went
away, but they were dark as their manner was.
The bright spark which went down home with that
blessed [Queen], held on its shining amid the darkness,
till the new Day-spring came. The bright spark met with
this shining, and illumined the place.
(I think the R.O.V
going down to the location lighting up the place. IIIuminating
the Acropolis Hill.)
4. There are in the sea divers fishes of many cubits, and
with all their greatness they are very small; but by thy
littleness the crown is made great, like as the Son, by whose
littleness Adam was made great.
(The Sea, the submerged Garden connection through Adam.
Illuminated the area. The lamp of light.)
For the head is thy crown intended: for the eye thy beauty,
for the ear thy goodliness. Come up from the sea, thou
neighbor to the dry land, and come and sojourn by the [seat
of] hearing. Let the ear love the word of life as it loveth
thee! In the ear is the word, and without it is the pearl.
(Its the message of the location, The discovery, the Books
and the truth and the relevance for the today and the future.)
Let it as being warned by thee, by thee get wisdom, and be
warned by the word of truth. Be thou its mirror: the beauty of
the Word in thine own beauty shall it see: in thee it shall
learn how precious is the Word on High!
The ear is the leaf: the flesh is the tree, and thou in the
midst of it are a fruit of light, and to the womb that
brings forth Light, thou art a type that points.
(Wow that was huge message. All in the italics, in the
above was about the discovery of Eden The Message that comes
from the location. Its related to the tree/fruit of
life/light, It comes from the womb, the beginning. where the
end will be (The Gospel of Thomas 18) St Ephraim is telling
what is happening and what its related to and the message.
Lets go further in unlocking Solomon's mystery.}
Thee He used as a parable of that kingdom, O pearl! as
He did the virgins that entered into it, five in number, clothed
with the light of their lamps! To thee are those bright ones
like, thou that art clad in light!
(This must be the actual event of spiritual realisation
and physical manifestation at the event perhaps upon a
discovery.)
5. Who would give a pearl to the daughter of the poor? For
when it hangs on her, it becomes her not. Gain without price
that faith, all of which becomes all the limbs of men. But for
no gold would a lady exchange her pearl.
(This experience is priceless and cannot be brought or
exchanged for gold. It has to be given, that's the moral of
the mystery. Give freely what has been given to you.)
It were a great disgrace if thou shouldst throw thy pearl
away into the mire for nought!
If one rejects the massage and the whole scenario the will be great
disappointment.
Well that's what it says.
Anyway I thought it was important for this thread.
I hope you're well, Yes I checked out the liberty forum, I didn't
last long there as its pretty ugly and full of hate. I don't last
long on those forums.
However I'm thinking of a post. But I think I'm stretched for time
to get involved in another forum. Since being on the other Anyway
forum I've had to modify myself just to stay there. As a part of my
research I've been looking into the Quran to see if I could find
commonalities.
I'm quite impressed of how many parallels there are to the scenario.
I must say its been a real eye opener to see parallel truths but I
could never understand the division between these religious family,
Notably Christian and Islam.
As you know I read the Urantia Book and use it a guide So I did a
word search on Islam to see if I could find some extra knowledge
that could define the problem of why there this division today. I
was surprised with what I found.
Here is an excerpt from one of the links in the main link.
The following really says it all.
The many religions of
Urantia are all good to the extent that they bring man to God and
bring the realization of the Father to man. It is a fallacy for
any group of religionists to conceive of their creed as The Truth;
such attitudes bespeak more of theological arrogance than of
certainty of faith.
There is not a Urantia religion that could not profitably study
and assimilate the best of the truths contained in every other
faith, for all contain truth.
Religionists would do better to borrow the best in their
neighbours' living spiritual faith rather than to denounce the
worst in their lingering superstitions and outworn rituals.
Apparently a lot of the problems that we have today between both
religion stem out of a division of Paul thoughts on the trinity and
the thoughts of Abner who was in charge of the Philadelphian church
which was independent from Jerusalem. Abner was in contact with the
Jesus the whole time but after his death when things became more
defined he found it hard to accept the Pauline idea of the Trinity
concept. I think Abner took this to personally and isolated himself
for the rest of his life and perpetuated his own church that ran by
the Jesus truth but with a few different ideas over doctrine.
So you had the Eastern church of Jesus and the Western Church of
Jesus and the 2 never saw quite eye to eye. The was miscomprehension
of the trinity concept of which other racial things bore out of it.
This division virtually occurs straight away after the Jesus
ascension. I would say around 40AD or so the division became
apparent and perpetuated.
No doubt there would of been a collection of writings of this
Eastern branch that was pre Islamic and was probably was not
regarded or recognised by the Western branch.
However this Eastern branch perpetuated in the East as a Christian
group following the teachings of John the Baptist and Abner the
Eastern representation of Jesus words and this Church still survives
today.
However, 600BC Mohammed came took over the whole region and began
social and religious reconstruction which delivered the Quran that
beheld many of Abners ideas and personal thoughts handed down over
time if not all. Compiled a book including the very earlier beliefs
stemming from Jesus containing in doctrine the disagreement between
Abner and Paul which is apparent.
Note that the Quran does recognise Jesus as prophet but not the
ideas of trinity and because of that you have bias and division.
It was all over a disagreement of doctrine, it had nothing to do
with Jesus words in truth.
The picture I see in connection to this journey of Eden. Is that, I
get the feeling and picture that God may use Eden and an attempt to
dispel this error or division in both churches and may include a few
more.
I feel Jesus is going gather his church, all of his church unto
himself through Eden and the knowledge it represents. That would be
all the churches and Judaism and all the other churches.
But as far as Christianity,Islam and Judaism this divisional issue
would be sorted out.
Isn't that incredible God coming down to sort out the mess between
his spiritual brotherhood/family himself. I am going on gut feeling
here, however the construct in discovery through the Quran knowing
what we know, seems like a perfect construct and falls into place
with the current scenario. In other words the picture seems to be
forming in the reality.
In the Quran in one of its prophecy it says that the Quran,
everything will disappear one day and all believers go to paradise.
In relation to the construct I can see that happening in a way that
Jesus, Paradise and local personalties come down, all truth is
refined through an adjudication process where the truth will be left
standing and then compiled in a super book of religion including all
the past relevant books and info and connected with the new book.
All the books including the truth only books of the Quran and other
compiles. All error in any book will be discounted.
So then we have a super book with all the book in including the
Urantia Book and other relevant truth books. In response to this all
the religions will be amalgamated into one religion for the future
as a religion of personal religion between God and man without
prejudice and filthy stuff.
I'm sure there will be a demonstration that will happen in the
physical and spiritual and will be undeniable and world wide. There
will be much mercy however all the ugliness on every level will be
dealt with. I'm afraid this goes for all However, knowing the truth
makes you very peaceful and positively expectant.
Everything I feel will judged, a plumbline of no violence and
obedience has been drawn in the sand and has been presented and
rejected. I don't think I can do anymore than release mysterious
warnings to be vigilant without either being taken down or abused.
But I will do it because people still have to be informed.
I released what I posted originally would attract world war 3. God
will just have to sort it out for us. In our personal reflections of
the short term past, a full scale war has died down things are on
track and we are still in the journey of faith, the exact path that
I feel is the right path, in the path to the truth. The path of
truth and discovery and the unrevealed, revealed.
If I go into my little the test scenario, according to my
calculations we have come out of the 9th week where, according to
Enoch the earth has been set for destruction, I feel this could be
because of rejection and nothing more can be really done. The stage
is set! we are entering into the tenth week. In this week according
to Enoch the Judgment process will begin particularly in the seventh
part which I calculate on the 4th July proclamation Sept 11th. that
is the last day the 7th day of the 10th week. That is the 70th day,
this fits the Daniel and Ezra 70 days.
Its either that day or no day as far as my research is concerned.
Also III extend an extra 3 days to that because three days are
important.
Also looking at the days leading up to Sept 11th in my hemisphere.
find it interesting
how the timing of the test seems to fall in the same day timing
as the sept 11th construct.
Anyway here is Jesus ascension words
"I bade you tarry in Jerusalem until you were endowed with power
from on high. I am now about to take leave of you; I am about
to ascend to my Father, and soon, very soon, will we send into
this world of my sojourn the Spirit of Truth; and when he
has come, you shall begin the new proclamation of the gospel
of the kingdom, first in Jerusalem and then to the uttermost
parts of the world. Love men with the love wherewith I have
loved you and serve your fellow mortals even as I have served
you. By the spirit fruits of your lives impel souls to believe
the truth that man is a son of God, and that all men are
brethren. Remember all I have taught you and the life I have
lived among you. My love overshadows you, my spirit will
dwell with you, and my peace shall abide upon you. Farewell."
When the morontia Master had thus spoken, he vanished from their
sight. This so-called ascension of Jesus was in no way different
from his other disappearances from mortal vision during the
forty days of his morontia career on Urantia.
about the Quran study here is a collection of commonalities that
I could find and some other interesting things.
Not a problem, thanks for your reply, all my calculations seem to be falling in
this time period and is in line with all the end time prophecies contained in
all the books. I'm just researching the Quran through word searches and finding
exactly the same things to a tee. Its everywhere Everything seems to be based on
Enoch's ten week judgement process but is confirming all the other mysteries
within all the other books.
It been a continual journey of revealing and has really come to a close in this
phase of the research, However there are more positive threads that I was led to
from the Quran to the St Ephraim and he prophecies exactly the same scenario
that is occurring right now in the current reality and its all to do with Eden
of Cyprus and what has eventuated and what is eventuating. Its an actualisation
of time and space and its all spread out and contained in the all the books of
religion.
Anyway the answer comes of the Eastern Med and from all the books not to mention
a new book.
Also to get through this relates to the simple words of Jesus, regardless of
doctrine. Love one another which incorporates all things. Being half-hearted is
no problem, the universe doesn't expect much from man but require respect in
mans attitudes particularly towards one another as the big guns of the universe
paradise are here. There is no time for spiritual arrogance from any man let
alone religion.
USDA I know you're aware but the following are for those who are not. This is
what the universe expects from all religionists..
Here is Jesus' words from the new revelation and is gives clear instructions for
all religions. These words do come with gravity and has weight and respect from
Paradise so ignoring this will have its consequences from any party.
And yes this revealing involves the following book very much.
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The Urantia Book extract
The many religions of Urantia are all good to the extent that they bring man to
God and bring the realization of the Father to man. It is a fallacy for any
group of religionists to conceive of their creed as The Truth; such attitudes
bespeak more of theological arrogance than of certainty of faith.
There is not a Urantia religion that could not profitably study and assimilate
the best of the truths contained in every other faith, for all contain truth.
Religionists would do better to borrow the best in their neighbours' living
spiritual faith rather than to denounce the worst in their lingering
superstitions and outworn rituals.
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Thanks for your post,
regards
sevens
Hi Ideo,
Every time I think about Steve Irwin I feel great Sadness, everyone in Australia
is in morning. I feel great loss and sadness. He was a such an individual who
personified that great Australian spirit of no worries mate in the best sense.
He brought so much happiness for everyone over here and throughout the world. He
was quite a character. The world needs more of these warm, friendly and open
people.
All the best for his family in this troubling time of loss we all miss him.
absolutely, 100%
feeling sad about it all.
sevens
Hi Nour of Islam.
Yes its all about the one the God, no problem. Also I must say I do receive
similar blessings from all the texts, but that is my experience. I have found in
all my life God does show me things and then leads me on.
I was reading your link you provided and you had an insert into with information
of St Ephraim. Well that again was a huge blessing, I had never delved into his
work. I found so many clues. The whole experience is just incredible. Because I
know what to look for I can go straight to the source and identify it instantly,
I know the markers. That's because of how I have been led and taught to see over
the years of research into the matters of Eden and the day.
That my personal experience with God through the scripts. Looking through the
Quran I experienced many blessings as well, no doubt about that.
all the best and great blessings all round.
sevens
Nation
I think what you're trying to do is worthy, however the time of grace is just
about over and everyman has to stand for himself with his crappy thoughts,
intentions and motivations this where no religion is going to save unless he
is connected and lives the truth in all aspects.
All arrogance will be dispelled in an instant. When that occurs there will be
great worldwide disappointment and the fire of failure to listen and activate.
By then the opportunity is gone. Only those guided by true faith with truth
beauty and goodness are the only ones that will survive. That's it. Nothing
less.
regards
sevens
Last edited by sevens : 1 Minute Ago at 06:43 PM.
I wonder if this connection
to the timing of the mystery.
St Ephraim
The tower that the many builded, in mystery looked for One,
who coming down would build on earth a tower that lifts
up to Heaven.
Religionists would do better to borrow the best in their neighbours' living
spiritual faith rather than to denounce the worst in their lingering
superstitions and outworn rituals.
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Exactly right all the rituals are outworn and have nothing of value that why he
have all this rubbish talk as a result of all the dogma that has kept man apart
from the truth and this is a result, a conversation on such a low level of
spirituality as witnessed here.
And some you guys claim you are a servant of God in your crappy words, rubbish,
a servant of only inner mindal nothing where a river of rubbish flows out.
Paradise see all this and just shake there head in disappointment. All this
rubbish you see is a complete result of the failure of religion on this planet,
complete and utter failure, all of them.
By the way if there is anyone planning a bomb or thinking of some crazy thing
against your fellow man in violence just know that Paradise will not help you
and you will be completely abandon by Paradise.
Also the doctrine of Martyrdom and those willingly to take ones own life and
other innocent peoples as a consequence, is only seen as cheap bribe to get into
Paradise, it is not the path and those who pursue this path will not be regarded
and those who perpetuate and teach this knowing the truth will be abandoned and
will be a victim of there own folly and will be judged accordingly to his
motives and abandoned.
Paradise will not help anyone who is into physical or physcic violence. Nothing.
so forget it! That's is truly a deadbeat/loser road to God he will not respect
that from any man and most likely that man will be rejected by Paradise.
Anyway just be very careful with your words don't underestimate anything that is
occurring. When it happens man will have no control of this and it will come
very suddenly.
Then those who have nothing but filthy words to convey will be seen running away
from themselves through inner fear every man who do abominations against mankind
and no dogma is going to help you except what is within you, no escapes least of
all the words of Crap..
For those with simple faith and look to God with Love and show Love rather than
violence in physical and in word, will have nothing to worry about.
They can walk tall and with real confidence. But violence will have no entry in
to the Kingdom of Heaven and will not be included in the new world.
regards
sevens
Hi Looks like other religious organisations are coming up with similar
calculations. However there talking about a Nuclear Bomb.
Quite interesting all these calculations there all very similar by the looks of
it. But I must say there is variation. But I feel what I'm presenting is more
specific and more varied since I take embrace all books of religion and its all
there.
Gee who could think of doing such an evil thing. If that's the plan of the Evil
ones, I'm sure there would be a religious content in amongst that. No doubt.
If that is the case I wonder from what generation this thought pattern hails
from. We all the know the truth as presented with honesty and openly shared. Is
this the scenario or is it the second coming in connection with Eden or is it
both or is it all mans imagination and someone's stirring.
All I know I'm going out there and spreading my thoughts because I'm going to
see if I can do something, preparing for the worst scenario.
I tell you if this is the ground zero scenario with some bomb and if it
motivated by religion God will be very very angry so much so that he may react
and take that branch out himself. Paradise Trinity would be completely offended
and that would be seen as last going away card of kal.
Well If this is correct The Paradise Trinity will really help us out here help
mankind uncover this evil plot if it is in the making.
I tell you if religion is responsible for this and if the Physcic powers are so
strong amongst a whole generation then I feel prophecy will come to pass and
there will be a reckoning of those responsible. That whole branch will go. I am
so certain of that.
I just hope that is not the case. I honestly hope so. If anyone knows someone in
Government let them know to be aware, let them know this research if it helps
mankind. I know Ive said a few things here and there and society is evolving
when it comes this possibility and if this is helps mankind avoid a complete
disaster upon innocent people then government has to be aware.
If its correct, if Im right?? or the article. The possibility is high and the
timing seems right from my end. To be honest a long time ago when I discovered
Sevenfold in Isaiah it did occurred to sometime later could this mean a bomb.
I'm not trying to scare monger. I did record it but then I took it down but I
didn't want to consider that as possibility.
Everyone you have to make your mind up what you think in all the research n
stuff. You quite to let me know that I'm wrong but honestly is a result from a
simple search Eden and discovering things along the way just excited me like a
child, man some of the experience it just fantastic in discovering things of God
and his mind in a personal way. That's my personal individual experience as it
should be. But to think that I was being lead to a scenario like this is just
frightening experience really to be confronted with the possibility of this my
own research which is now a common thought through independent research unless
they have the site already. I don't know.
It could be looping message, it could be, that why the research has to be
different in what there using and there interpretation has to be checked as
against my research and see where it fits.
The links are there, its all very compelling.
However in all of this Jesus does say that he will come on that day and will
protect us. Maybe this the faith we have to cling on to and is probably the life
raft and all the scripts and its prophecy.
Just consider a simultaneous day of a potential possibility of disaster, then
you have on that day (I don't nothing about dates)but a discovery of all
proportions and then you have the coming.
The day of Good evil resolved in a single day.
That would be the Testamony of the scriptures and all the prophets who come to
Earth and are revealed with all the universe personalties and bring the
inauguration of the new age in a final resolve.
I reckon if this right that would the final scenario.
Also people I don't mind you copy this as a record. OK
But don't publish ok. But you don't hear from me or whatever you have this
record. Really this is the time of prayer, far-out we have to get it on with the
angels and work with them and close in your own way. No time for doctrine it all
to do with sincerity of heart. This could be the real saga of mankind.
And all for peace and goodwill in truth, beauty and goodness. That's all it is.
Also I have great confidence in the Sevenfold team of the Angelic world, they
are right beside everyone and they know the situation and all can say that this
journey is the great of real victory for mankind and no one is going to spoil
the day of the Lord.
Its just simple that no entity is going to bring that day down. This whole
Testamony only leads to final victory for all mankind.
Absolutely
Anyway back to normal, I sent them my research to see if there are parallels.
Well its either a normal day or a sevenfold day one or the other.
All the best and take care.
Its interesting if the scenario is correct look at what Atlantis/Eden/Isle of
Maati has done for us in searching the isle of the Gods.
I have faith in that.
regards
sevens
Hi
I just went to the link and searched the scripts they were relying
on.
(Isaiah 13).
1 The pronouncement against Babylon that Isaiah the son of Amoz
saw in vision:
2 Upon a mountain of bare rocks raise up a signal, you men.
Lift up the voice to them, wave the hand, that they may come
into the entrances of the nobles.
(The Eden connection, The signal, The proclamation, The entrance
of the Nobles, Eden, its part of the mystery.)
3 I myself have issued the command to my sanctified ones. I
have also called my mighty ones for [expressing] my anger, my
eminently exultant ones.
(Well that just says it all, we are all a witness that verse 2.)
4 Listen! A crowd in the mountains, something like a
numerous people! Listen! The uproar of kingdoms, of nations
gathered together! Jehovah of armies is mustering the army of
war.
What nations or raising there voice and who which crowd and its
numerous people.! from which mountains? Seem obvious.
5 They are coming from the land far away, from the extremity of
the heavens, Jehovah and the weapons of his denunciation, to wreck
all the earth.
Look like Heaven is activated.
6 Howl, you people, for the day of Jehovah is near! As a
despoiling from the Almighty it will come.
Pointing to the revealing. The day.
7 That is why all hands themselves will drop down, and the
whole heart itself of mortal man will melt.
When all is revealed all man will bow to Universal personalties
from heaven.
8 And people have become disturbed. Convulsions and
birth pains themselves grab hold; like a woman that is giving
birth they have labor pains. They look at each other in amazement.
Their faces are inflamed faces.
Everyone is shocked and realise many things.
9 Look! The day of Jehovah itself is coming, cruel both with
fury and with burning anger, in order to make the land an object
of astonishment, and that it may annihilate [the land's] sinners
out of it.
10 For the very stars of the heavens and their constellations
of Kesil will not flash forth their light; the sun will actually
grow dark at its going forth, and the moon itself will not cause
its light to shine.
I hope this is not some bomb of some sort.
11 And I shall certainly bring home [its own] badness upon
the productive land, and their own error upon the wicked
themselves. And I shall actually cause the pride of the
presumptuous ones to cease, and the haughtiness of the tyrants I
shall abase.
(really sounds like a correction for mankind, a very serious one.)
12 I shall make mortal man rarer than refined gold, and
earthling man [rarer] than the gold of Ophir.
The ultimate blessing to man, any man who has faith.
13 That is why I shall cause heaven itself to become agitated,
and the earth will rock out of its place at the fury of Jehovah
of armies and at the day of his burning anger.
Yes because the Paradise Trinity will be present and matter is
probably affected.
14 And it must occur that, like a gazelle chased away
and like a flock without anyone to collect them together, they
will turn, each one to his own people; and they will flee, each
one to his own land.
It is ordained, it must come to pass, prophecy must come to pass.
Nothing will stop this correction.
15 Every one that is found will be pierced through, and
every one that is caught in the sweep will fall by the sword;
Well that's been the message the whole time.
16 and their very children will be dashed to pieces before
their eyes. Their houses will be pillaged, and their own wives
will be raped.
Well that seems a little extreme, I wonder if that an after effect
of some sort.
17 Here I am arousing against them the Medes, who account
silver itself as nothing and who, as respects gold, take no
delight in it.
I wonder you the mede is in this situation.
18 And [their] bows will dash even young men to pieces. And the
fruitage of the belly they will not pity; for sons their eye will
not feel sorry.
Mind you this was written long time back however it does seem very
extreme, very difficult times.
19 And Babylon, the decoration of kingdoms, the beauty of
the pride of the Chaldeans, must become as when God overthrew
Sodom and Gomorrah.
It sounds like some retribution in that area perhaps?
20 She will never be inhabited, nor will she reside for
generation after generation. And there the Arab will not pitch his
tent, and no shepherds will let [their flocks] lie down there.
I must say this quite harsh punishment of some sort. But that how
they interpret it.
21 And there the haunters of waterless regions will
certainly lie down, and their houses must be filled with eagle
owls. And there the ostriches must reside, and goat-shaped
demons themselves will go skipping about there.
22 And jackals must howl in her dwelling towers, and the big
snake will be in the palaces of exquisite delight. And the season
for her is near to come, and her days themselves will not be
postponed
I thought that was interesting. Quite an interesting piece.
See this is the thing. Whilst I felt there was much truth in the following link.
I feel the paper was limited to one book. I feel that by drawing on this
knowledge from all the books including the Urantia Book it paint a clearer
picture with perspective. Even though its quite remarkable that we are coming up
with same date times and patterns.
These people who wrote this paper are pretty sincere in what they do as you can
see and there an organization and put there reputation on the line and there
coming up with some results that have parallel. However I'm not familiar with
them I also found it interesting his 7 connection. I thought was an interesting
connection.
Well personally I walk in faith, see what happens in all this but I cant keep on
doing this for the rest of my life in continual end times.
I don't think there is better timing than this. If all is normal and normal then
it wont be for a thousand years perhaps. Its all consuming and everything is
such a low priority. But I feel its worth it.
I thought this was seriously important to the scenario. It a link to
St Ephraim and his seven Hymns of pearls (again the sevens) St
Ephraim was is charge of the Eastern Church of the Christians at
around late 200AD to 300AD. They where apart and not influenced by
the Pauline church in the occident. I don't think they agreed with
the trinity idea and this division continued. Apparently the Eastern
Church that you never heard off where influenced by Babylonian is
Hellenist ideas .. I think
Here is a link to the seven pearls of Hymns of Faith
Its quite remarkable there are so many keywords and connections. I'm
sure allot of this stuff were pre Islamic texts that where drawn
upon. Perhaps I'm searching that for myself.
This link has all the links and is the scenario and speaks of the
hidden things and the revealed things.
Here is glimpse of Solomon's Secret I believe it all about the
location and what's is happening now
Solomons End of times mystery.
The Queen of Sheba was a sheep that had come into the place
of wolves; the lamp of truth did Solomon give her, who
also married her when he fell away. She was enlightened and went
away, but they were dark as their manner was.
The bright spark which went down home with that
blessed [Queen], held on its shining amid the darkness,
till the new Day-spring came. The bright spark met with
this shining, and illumined the place.
(I think the R.O.V going down to the location lighting up
the place. IIIuminating the Acropolis Hill. The Temple/Altar
area being light up and explored.)
4. There are in the sea divers fishes of many cubits, and
with all their greatness they are very small; but by thy
littleness the crown is made great, like as the Son, by whose
littleness Adam was made great.
(The Sea, the submerged Garden connection through Adam.
Illuminated the area. The lamp of light.)
For the head is thy crown intended: for the eye thy beauty,
for the ear thy goodliness. Come up from the sea, thou
neighbor to the dry land, and come and sojourn by the [seat
of] hearing. Let the ear love the word of life as it loveth
thee! In the ear is the word, and without it is the pearl.
(Its the message of the location, The discovery, the Books
and the truth and the relevance for the today and the future.)
Let it as being warned by thee, by thee get wisdom, and be
warned by the word of truth. Be thou its mirror: the beauty of
the Word in thine own beauty shall it see: in thee it shall
learn how precious is the Word on High!
The ear is the leaf: the flesh is the tree, and thou in the
midst of it are a fruit of light, and to the womb that
brings forth Light, thou art a type that points.
(Wow that was huge message. All in the italics, in the
above was about the discovery of Eden The Message that comes
from the location. Its related to the tree/fruit of
life/light, It comes from the womb, the beginning. where the
end will be (The Gospel of Thomas 18) St Ephraim is telling
what is happening and what its related to and the message.
Lets go further in unlocking Solomon's mystery.}
Thee He used as a parable of that kingdom, O pearl! as
He did the virgins that entered into it, five in number, clothed
with the light of their lamps! To thee are those bright ones
like, thou that art clad in light!
(This must be the actual event of spiritual realisation
and physical manifestation at the event perhaps upon a
discovery. Also it could be directly related to the delivery
of the message and the all the prime personalities involved.
Also St Ephraim is describing Jesus describing this actual
time through his prophecies 2000 years. All those parables
where about today.)
5. Who would give a pearl to the daughter of the poor? For
when it hangs on her, it becomes her not. Gain without price
that faith, all of which becomes all the limbs of men. But for
no gold would a lady exchange her pearl.
(This experience is priceless and cannot be brought or
exchanged for gold. It has to be given, that's the moral of
the mystery. Give freely what has been given to you.)
It were a great disgrace if thou shouldst throw thy pearl
away into the mire for nought!
If one rejects the message and the whole scenario there may be a
great disappointment for onself.
Well that's what it says.
Anyway I thought it was important for this thread.
I really appreciate the posts. I think it good that this is all coming out in
the open and all mankind can explore the texts and stimulate a debate on the
Judgement Day or the End times whatever you prefer.
I just want you to know that Im not here to use scripts in not in vengeance or
in malice but here to get to the bottom of it all and to highlight a positive
outlook using some scripts from other sources including the Quran which I have
just discovered and enjoying it.
For a start my research covers a whole gamut of the religious Books of all
cultures that go back thousands of years. My research is not limited to a book
ore one book but embraces all the book that concerning a simple search for
Eden. Ill post the following in the hope that we can all learn from each other
the truth and how when you combine the whole truth the is puzzle that comes
together..
All what I present is from a simple for Eden that began 14 years ago but its
in the last 2-3 years that I embarked on a journey for Eden through all the
scripts. I started with Enoch and then was led through all the BC books and
its just recently that I became familiar with the Quran. I was stunned by the
what I had found. I certainly found much gems that was confirmed in all the
other books.
From the Quran and my enquiries and questions I was led to St Ephraim and
again I was absolutely stunned again. As I found many gems there to.
To begin with I would like draw on Jesus' very words from the New revelation
for the New world.
Its up to you whether you want to accept it but its part of the great
Testamony which is undeniable. But Im not to convert anyone, everyone keep and
here to their own faith. Ok
---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Urantia Book
The many religions of Urantia are all good to the extent that they bring man
to God and bring the realization of the Father to man. It is a fallacy for any
group of religionists to conceive of their creed as The Truth; such attitudes
bespeak more of theological arrogance than of certainty of faith.
There is not a Urantia religion that could not profitably study and assimilate
the best of the truths contained in every other faith, for all contain truth.
Religionists would do better to borrow the best in their neighbours' living
spiritual faith rather than to denounce the worst in their lingering
superstitions and outworn rituals.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
That is exactly right. Since I have covered all the books in search of Eden
which led me here. I have profited very much from every book that is related
to religion. The great puzzle is covered all over the books, all the books and
the mystery slices through all the doctrine. Its part of the revealing
Here is a little example of the Gems I found in St Ephraim Hymns of the Seven
pearls.
The following is an extract. Understand that St Ephraim came from the Eastern
Christian Church ran by Abner in Philadelphia. but was not recognised by the
Pauline doctrine that absorbed in the west. There was argument about the
trinity idea very soon after Jesus. Abner was in physical connection with
Jesus and was present in Jesus' ministry
This argument perpetuated and was absorbed in the Quran where the argument
still exist. This is the problem. Also because you have to understand there is
a description that is built upon this division wielded by the last fallen
entity. KAL
Remembering we are in the last throws of the conclusion of the rebellion .
This division in ideas of both main religions has been exploited and is part
of the deception and how it manifests itself is in violence and self
destruction. That is not the path to Paradise and I can prove that to you in
all text and all points to one thing and groups of individuals. Imp sorry to
say.
This exploitation is the root of the problem, the branch that has fallen, like
the towers. People have to abandon violence on all levels at this time every
individual has to search there heart, there soul to the right way of truth and
righteousness. Truth beauty and goodness. Its a simple faith.
The exploitation has keep all the spiritual brothers apart.
Anyway, here is a gem from St Ephraim of Solomon's
Mystery, In between the verses are my thoughts. I hope it is profitable for
all man. Given freely.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Solomon's End of times mystery.
The Queen of Sheba was a sheep that had come into the place of wolves; the
lamp of truth did Solomon give her, who also married her when he fell away.
She was enlightened and went away, but they were dark as their manner was.
(That's right the sheep amongst wolves regarding this very truth and the
exposure of it. But I have faith in Paradise Eden God. There seems to be
enlightenment of the mystery which does bring disappointment to many. This
also may indicate an evil intention which is countered by heaven, judgment
occurs and in a simultaneous event of a discovery. The conjunction of
time/space and infinity.)
The bright spark which went down home with that blessed [Queen], held on its
shining amid the darkness, till the new Day-spring came. The bright spark met
with this shining, and illumined the place.
(I think the Bright spark the R.O.V going down to the location lighting up the
place, Like the rod unto reed measuring the temple (Rev 11) Eden, the city.
IIluminating the Acropolis Hill, Cyprus. The Temple/Altar area being light up
and explored and all prophecies coming to pass. Dayspring , The Angels
connected to Job 38, The angels of Heaven, the guardian of the location. The
seal of Seven The Bible, The Seven Gods, The Egyptian Book of the Dead. The
new Dayspring the new Epoch.)
4. There are in the sea divers fishes of many cubits, and with all their
greatness they are very small; but by thy littleness the crown is made great,
like as the Son, by whose littleness Adam was made great.
(The Sea, the submerged Garden connection through Adam. Illuminated the area.
The lamp of light. The Crown of Wisdom, Good for all man no matter who, so
long as they obey the commands of Jesus of Love for one another, Goodwill and
glad tidings amongst all man, all religions.)
For the head is thy crown intended: for the eye thy beauty, for the ear thy
goodliness. Come up from the sea, thou neighbour to the dry land, and come and
sojourn by the [seat of] hearing. Let the ear love the word of life as it
loved thee! In the ear is the word, and without it is the pearl.
(Its the message of the location, The discovery, the Books and the truth and
the relevance for the today and the future. Also the crown is related to the
head, through the mind, in prayer and in research in loving relationship with
God. Seeing and hearing God, being led through the scriptures in faith, the
Godship of 7)
Let it as being warned by thee, by thee get wisdom, and be warned by the word
of truth. Be thou its mirror: the beauty of the Word in thine own beauty shall
it see: in thee it shall learn how precious is the Word on High!
(That's right listen to the message that comes from the place, contemplate it
in truth, the oath to Paradise through discovery of the mind and God, not
violence. This word comes from high, the kingdom of heaven.)
The ear is the leaf: the flesh is the tree, and thou in the midst of it are a
fruit of light, and to the womb that brings forth Light, thou art a type that
points.
(A huge message in the above was about the connection to Eden The Message that
comes from the location. Its related to the tree/fruit of life/light, It comes
from the womb, the beginning. where the end will be (The Gospel of Thomas 18)
St Ephraim is telling what is happening and what its related to and the
message. Lets go further in unlocking Solomon's mystery.}
Thee He used as a parable of that kingdom, O pearl! as He did the virgins that
entered into it, five in number, clothed with the light of their lamps! To
thee are those bright ones like, thou that art clad in light!
(This must be the actual event of spiritual realisation and physical
manifestation at the event perhaps upon a discovery. Also it could be directly
related to the delivery of the message and the all the prime personalities
involved. Also St Ephraim is describing Jesus who is describing this actual
time through his prophecies and parables of 2000 years. All those parables
where about today, the event and the time and the attitude and the entities
involved and what occurs.)
5. Who would give a pearl to the daughter of the poor? For when it hangs on
her, it becomes her not. Gain without price that faith, all of which becomes
all the limbs of men. But for no gold would a lady exchange her pearl.
(This experience is priceless and cannot be brought or exchanged for gold. It
has to be given freely, its the pearl, the womb, the birth, the beginning from
the end. Eden Paradise, that's the moral of the mystery. Give freely what has
been given to you.)
It were a great disgrace if thou shouldst throw thy pearl away into the mire
for nought!
(Those who reject the offer of the pearl will walk away very disappointed.
Well that was remarkable and I hope it was profitable and we all got something
out of that.
Also here is an example a gem out of many I found in the Quran for the
believers of Faith and Goodwill. Its a description of Judgement day and Eden.
In brackets are my thoughts.
In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
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YUSUFALI: Has the story reached thee of the overwhelming (Event)?
PICKTHAL: Hath there come unto thee tidings of the Overwhelming?
SHAKIR: Has not there come to you the news of the overwhelming calamity?
(The Eden historical hypothesis, and the calamity that befell it. The message
of the place for the future and its connection to God.)
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YUSUFALI: Some faces, that Day, will be humiliated,
PICKTHAL: On that day (many) faces will be downcast,
SHAKIR: (Some) faces on that day shall be downcast,
(That day will humiliating for many, there will be great disappointment. Those
without faith will be disappointed, all man.)
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YUSUFALI: The while they enter the Blazing Fire,-
PICKTHAL: Scorched by burning fire,
SHAKIR: Entering into burning fire,
( this describes the spiritual realisation of there own reject of the message
beforehand, all man will go through a fear period where it will be apparent.
The fire of disappointment, The soul effect.)
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YUSUFALI: The while they are given, to drink, of a boiling hot spring,
PICKTHAL: Drinking from a boiling spring,
SHAKIR: Made to drink from a boiling spring.
(Made to go through disappointment, its all connected with the correction of
mankind particularly the religions as they have failed largely through
division in doctrine and distraction from the essence of religion.)
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YUSUFALI: No food will there be for them but a bitter Dhari'
PICKTHAL: No food for them save bitter thorn-fruit
SHAKIR: They shall have no food but of thorns,
The Spirit of God and the angels will withdraw and man will feel abandoned. A
desolate feeling.)
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YUSUFALI: Which will neither nourish nor satisfy hunger.
PICKTHAL: Which doth not nourish nor release from hunger.
SHAKIR: Which will neither fatten nor avail against hunger.
(Might indicate earth changes as result of Paradise being present and obvious,
they are high being from above and when present in time space has an effect on
matter and the solar system.
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YUSUFALI: (Other) faces that Day will be joyful,
PICKTHAL: In that day other faces will be calm,
SHAKIR: (Other) faces on that day shall be happy,
(However for those who have faith and believe and repent and make connection
with God in there personal self and are good towards there fellow man will be
successfull. As simple as that by hearing the words of Jesus and all the
prophets of the past of every religion through the books.)
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YUSUFALI: Pleased with their striving,-
PICKTHAL: Glad for their effort past,
SHAKIR: Well-pleased because of their striving,
(Those who heard the message beforehand and responded and activated passed the
test of faith, in his faith, personal faith, faith of God, in God its really
quite simple. Activation of Good deeds.)
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YUSUFALI: In a Garden on high,
PICKTHAL: In a high Garden
SHAKIR: In a lofty garden,
(100% confirmation of the Garden of Eden connection and Judgment Day as found
in the Quran. There are many references Eden in the Quran and the Garden
Paradise Eden Urantia)
Note the similarities Uran tia Q uran Just in its words must send a message
surely)
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YUSUFALI: Where they shall hear no (word) of vanity:
PICKTHAL: Where they hear no idle speech,
SHAKIR: Wherein you shall not hear vain talk.
(The right the message of the Garden is vast and includes all man, there will
be no right than thou nor man taking advantage of another. Its will be
Paradise Eden on Urantia as prophesied and Jesus is all connected.)
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YUSUFALI: Therein will be a bubbling spring:
PICKTHAL: Wherein is a gushing spring,
SHAKIR: Therein is a fountain flowing,
(Yes exactly right another connection, to Eden, the springs, the fountain of
truth, knowledge and physical revealment. From that place comes the
revealment, the discovery.)
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YUSUFALI: Therein will be Thrones (of dignity), raised on high,
PICKTHAL: Wherein are couches raised
SHAKIR: Therein are thrones raised high,
After Judgement Day, The Ancients of Days and all the characters of the past,
present and future will be present for the inauguration and the final end to
the Lucifer rebellion.
And it will be final and completed.)
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YUSUFALI: Goblets placed (ready),
PICKTHAL: And goblets set at hand
SHAKIR: And drinking-cups ready placed,
(There will be great joy in all the lands and this time now will be forgotten
as a distant memory and the spiritual world and the Humans will together and
be present and Paradise personalities will be here to help us in our new
world. This place is in important to the Universe ascension scheme.)
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YUSUFALI: And cushions set in rows,
PICKTHAL: And cushions ranged
SHAKIR: And cushions set in a row,
(There will a great party with much and joy looking for the future.)
Well I enjoyed that very much, it was a real blessing to sahre that I hope it
was profitable for the day and uplifting as there is good end that we can have
faith in we can all look forward to.
All the best.
regards
sevens
Mystical Concepts,
I really enjoyed reading through the pdf. I could identify many clues. It was a
real good to read, I saw much value in that and could see many things.
I think that was a very constructive post. I profited much from that and I think
all religion could investigate this to and see how it all connects and conbine
to seek the commonalities.
regards
sevens
Here is a link on the
Sevenfold Canon relating to the bible.
Remember the former
things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God,
and there is none like me, Declaring the end from the
beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet
done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my
pleasure:
The Numbers 37 and 73 (the fourth Star Number) are palindromic
primes. They are both a kind of "division of unity" into two
primes 10 = 3 (Trinity) + 7 (Fullness). Their product is the sum
of the Creation Holograph: 2701 = 37 x 73 = Sum(73). The Number 37
is the Ordinal Value of the word Wisdom: Wisdom (Ord)
Thanks for your post, I appreciate your connection. Thanks for sharing. Yes ,
research into the books of religion can be perplexing and yet it has been one of
the most rewarding experiences. I have found great pleasure in investigating all
the truth from every book. In all my research, it really comes down to this
weekend and perhaps the next week.
I have been following the Sevens pattern in all the books and its seems to be
connecting in perfection to this weekend, particularly 911. All I can say this
is the result of many years of locating Eden and all the attached judgment
scenario contained in all the books and there is a discovery at hand of Eden and
its message is in the books, all of them, they all have the piece of the puzzle.
I'm convinced that the way will bring it in through discovery/mystery/puzzle
something that inspires the higher self of man and his personality Not war or
violence. Its Gods puzzle and Eden is right in the middle of it. Its all seems
to be coming to a climax in spirit.
This weekend or in the next week will confirm my studies in time accuracy. Its
all been a journey of faith and sincerity. One thing I'm happy about that I
searched all the books without bias but with love and respect. I also
experienced many discoveries in the Quran which was a great find right at the
end of the journey and does contain many of the ancient truths. I really praise
God for that. truly wondrous.
Also I must say the Urantia Book was truly the major feature in all this
journey. It truly is the Urantia book of God prophesied in Enoch about the
Sevenfold Doctrine. I have no doubt about that. Its the book that had guided me
in all this journey and has taught me many things about the journey and how to
see things. You know The individual, all the scripts, Eden, searching for it and
all the angels involved in the project of destiny. Its such a completion that
worthy of Testamony and truly written in the stone tablet annals of this
universe even up to Paradise. That's what its all about the connection, the
parallel, the oneness the truth.
Sublime Supernal and transcendental.
During my research in the Quran I did locate the source problem of why there is
division among the religions. I noticed that the difference really stem out of a
disagreement that occurred right after Jesus between Abner and Paul about the
trinity and God. But honestly Its not enough to have a wall between us.
After all my investigation I found there is no reason why the brothers of
religion have to be in enmity of each other, absolutely no reason from reading
in the all the scripts of all the books.
We have so much in common, much more than differences. So much so that I feel
that if any scripts that perpetuates division among men through scripture is
false doctrine, in any book. However its all there for a purpose.
In respect to the law of the scriptures in the pure sense, all spiritual
brotherhood should lay down there arms, Religion shouldn't be involved in war
anymore, it should be for spiritual benefit and the joy of man in self
discovery. The paths are quite clear and there easy when you are in relationship
in God to perpetuate good deeds and feel love towards one another..
You know if everyone just stopped lifting there hand up against there brother
that includes the enemy, there would be change and it would happen quickly.
There would be peace and room for discussion making sure everyone has enough for
shelter and food.. Peace would prevail if everyone had a change of heart and
would respond in truth. All war would go. Why cant that happen I ask? Instead
spending money on destruction why not spend it on housing, food and the family.
All the money is being wasting on crap at the end of the day and all the
spiritual violence that I see just adds to the cost that we all bare as a
planet. Then people complain, I wonder why!
Why does division exist at all, when in the spirit of God there is happiness in
peace and itsrewards. Theres no difference to this in all the books.
Anyway we live in a completely upside down world. Its so illogical.
Maybe this weekend maybe the time or in the next few days.
There will be no indication however there are signs and time/space patterns that
seems to be in conjunction to this weekend and for the next few days. Its
perplexing so in light off that I'm figuring for the worst, I'm not
underestimating this.
It could happen and it will happens suddenly, before man realizes its done. If
there is an wilful violent act involved. All I can do to stop it is by releasing
all this. If there is a plot involved I don't want my fellow brother to be hurt
whoever he is.
One voice in amongst billions but you know never know how the angels work in
delivering the message to certain individuals in the reality of disaster to
think again, consider all things. Hopefully the right message can get across to
prevent disaster. That's the faith I have.
Anyway all the best. I hope there some profit here for you somewhere. All my
research is being tested right now, I know the feeling that you were relating
to. Well its supposed to be a faith journey completely, its all in the scripts
and the faith in Gods words, I can only go by my personal experience.
I must say if all is normal throughout this year well, that's OK my hypothesis
was wrong. However I felt in finding all this I had a responsibility to warn
mankind just in case I was right regardless what flack I may get.
See what happens Eh! All I know is that Eden/Atlantis of Cyprus is discovered
and its in all the books and it has a huge message that should be explored by
all man.
thanks for your post.
all the best
sevens
Edited by sevens on 09/08/06 08:52 PM.
I thought religious represession was outlawed and against the virtue of
freewill of choice as given by God!
All the spiritual brotherhoods of the planet where ever it is should lay down
there arms, Imposing ones will upon another with ones religion, whoever,
regardless plays right into the hands of Satan in my view. Man should be given
free choice, of free will in a society that is tolerant of another beliefs
with respect.
I only know the benefits of that I see it all around me, we all live in
harmony and are free to share. When man is free to expand himself in personal
religion and expression without fear the results are remarkable and is truly
worthy of a civilisation. When man truly realises that, mans civilisation in
relationship with God as described will be counted in amoungst the
civilisations of the universe.
I mean the freewill civilisations only, I think its through the right loving
attitude of man that will attract people of the religion of God. Religious
imposition upon the will of man only blinds man and is not inline with the
Universal government structure of governance of its universal citizens.
What we have now on this planet is just rubbish the whole lot of it is just
stained with hatred, hurt, mailce, war, this and that, lets get this guy, lets
get that guy, lets destroy a civilisation. Come on people of the world. You
know muslim this , christian that, Jew this.... The whole is thing..
everything. Its all upside down,
Im right, your wrong and no one has explored all the texts available and in
our BC past....No one! and yet everyone knows everything. Everyone is an
expert but hasnt read and considered everything. All the religions are guilty
of this and guilty of exclusivity. This is the problem. Well, regardless what
I think I think times are changing.
This goes for all the brotherhoods, its just ridiculous. What gets me everyone
is afraid to explore the new revelation called The Urantia Book. You Know,
look at the names... The Quran....right , now look Urantia. This
URAN commonality in names and Look UR like the knowledge of UR or something.
Know this book is resposibile for the discovery of Eden and is written in the
hands of angels and its where the search began and from there it extends into
all the scripts that where explored without bias and division including my
experience in the Quran.
Well I think this journey is a testamony of man in discovery to Eden,
documented and given freely away for mankind to take and think about, it was
never held back and was given as it came. Personaly, in light of the gravity
of this, man has shown little respect to this discovery and its import to
mankind and thats becuase of what is within himself and his cynical ideas.
Its really time to wake to the call of realisation and self reflection upon
ones own self, if God cant the get message through he may have to come down.
But I feel when that happens and man realises that, it will be to late. It
will just happen. Have no idea when. God does say he will show signs.
Personaly, Im sure seeing the time/space patterns in the sevens, extending it
further, its a pattern of 3, 7, 10 in time reality events that appears to link
with prophecy and the realities of today.
This is what I see in my research
sevens
Also I found in the Quran there will be a big discovery of there waters. I
know exactly what that discovery is where have a good idea where it lays and
its a very, very ancient place that ancient Sumerians wrote about and its
related to the origins the Sons of God, the actual place from where they came
from and where they administered before they fell. The place is called
Dalamatia and it lays of the Persian Gulf. The new revelation speaks about it
and points to it ,Like in the Quran.
Does anyone want to fulfill a prophecy in the Quran in the Urantia Book
together and launch an expedition to find the place and that will prove a
joint venture between the the Quran and the Urantia Book working together in a
way to expand in a new revelation in the fulfillment in discovery and
enlightenment rather than conlict. a different path! Eh! something that
arouses the curiosity of mankind.
Get his soul going a bit though a revelation in prophecy. There are ancient
and ruins of the ancient place Dalmantia in the Persian Gulf. Wouldnt that be
something a discovery of something like that, that would light up th place, a
revealment led by the books.
anyone interested?
sevens
Last edited by sevens : 1 Minute Ago at 02:49 AM.
Why don't we, right here collect texts in the Quran that relate to hidden of
the waters prophecies from all the book of the Quran and see where it leads
to.
Lets go into the Sumerian tablets and see what information we find about the
paradise gardens of the Gods or the Land of the Gods that the Sumerians
spoke about. Lets collate all the information we can find in all the books
and I know where to look in the UB that definitely gives us clues.
Lets make it fun in discovering the very first place of the Gods as in
scripts and in stone.
Try and refine the search area throw some money into it and ahoy away we go,
on an adventure on the high heavenly sea of peace on a quest of discovery,
another one that incorporates both Books together. Although no one is
converting anyone here at all, not at all, its all to do with knowledge. the
truth and books of knowledge.
Lets make this an adventure into the scripts.
All I know there are vestiges of ancient tablets of the even noontide meal,
and there vestiges of the city, remnant. Apparently went down in a tidal
wave at its Southern shores. All part of the mystery. It could be close to
ancient Dilmun or it could be off Mesopotamia headwaters.
Its a worthwhile search for truth and enjoyable and uplifting and lightens
the soul and you can have confidence that we are going to find something
really good as this has happened before in the eastern Med regarding
1stEden.
Im calling this as proposal for peace and truth and discovery for the
countries that gather the Persian Gulf for all the brothers of kind. To go
and find this place of the scripts and tablets.
A discovery like that would make everyone happy for a change and it could be
linked to the Quran and equally to the new revelation The Urantia Book.
That would be a fine path and does directly involve Jesus in a way that
could be accepted and would link to prophecy to the Quran and this
revelation would be unifying force without taking anything away and as a way
of expansion in the understandings of the universe at large not to mention
personal relationship with God, up to date for the future of the new world
to come. One day!
What do you think?
regards
sevens
Hi mysticalconcepts
How are you, Ive really enjoyed your posts. I'm amazed how there are many
similarities with our research, Thanks for the links and leads of knowledge. III
research them I'm getting great value out of our discussions.
Ive been thinking about the why there is difference between Islam and Christians
in doctrine so I thought I would share some research with you. The way I do my
research is that if I see something that interests me I go to the UB run a
search and from the back track to get a fuller understanding from all aspects.
Like for example, realising some of the differences in doctrine
I did a search on Abner he was the man who began the Eastern Christianity just
after Jesus. I think Abgar is mentioned in the records and I suspect it is Abner
or its St Addai. Also Abner was In direct communication with Jesus.
Here is an excerpt out of the UB about Abner.
Quote:
The Eastern version of the message of Jesus, notwithstanding that it
remained more true to his teachings, continued to follow the uncompromising
attitude of Abner. It never progressed as did the Hellenized version and was
eventually lost in the Islamic movement.
in the next excerpt we find out who Abner and the connection to St Addai or
Agbar I think one or the other.
Quote:
On Tuesday, January 3, A.D. 30, Abner, the former chief of the twelve
apostles of John the Baptist, a Nazarite and onetime head of the Nazarite
school at Engedi, now chief of the seventy messengers of the kingdom,
called his associates together and gave them final instructions before sending
them on a mission to all of the cities and villages of Perea. This Perean
mission continued for almost three months and was the last ministry of the
Master. From these labors Jesus went directly to Jerusalem to pass through his
final experiences in the flesh. The seventy, supplemented by the periodic
labors of Jesus and the twelve apostles, worked in the following cities and
towns and some fifty additional villages: Zaphon, Gadara, Macad, Arbela,
Ramath, Edrei, Bosora, Caspin, Mispeh, Gerasa, Ragaba, Succoth, Amathus, Adam,
Penuel, Capitolias, Dion, Hatita, Gadda, Philadelphia, Jogbehah, Gilead, Beth-Nimrah,
Tyrus, Elealah, Livias, Heshbon, Callirrhoe, Beth-Peor, Shittim, Sibmah,
Medeba, Beth-Meon, Areopolis, and Aroer
so you can see that Abner is The leader of the Seventy who set up the Eastern
Christian Church which many of its teachings was absorbed into Islam including
disagreements.
If you follow the following link you will find that the Urantia Book has a lot
to say about Abner and all gives rise of the division of the Trinity concept
between them and that is apparent in doctrine.
The Jews at Jerusalem had always had trouble with the Jews of Philadelphia.
And after the death and resurrection of Jesus the Jerusalem church, of which
James the Lord's brother was head, began to have serious difficulties with the
Philadelphia congregation of believers. Abner became the head of the
Philadelphia church, continuing as such until his death. And this estrangement
with Jerusalem explains why nothing is heard of Abner and his work in the
Gospel records of the New Testament. This feud between Jerusalem and
Philadelphia lasted throughout the lifetimes of James and Abner and continued
for some time after the destruction of Jerusalem. Philadelphia was really
the headquarters of the early church in the south and east as Antioch was in
the north and west.
line 158: The many religions of Urantia are all good to the extent that
they bring man to God and bring the realization of the Father to man. It is a
fallacy for any group of religionists to conceive of their creed as The Truth;
such attitudes bespeak more of theological arrogance than of certainty of
faith. There is not a Urantia religion that could not profitably study and
assimilate the best of the truths contained in every other faith, for all
contain truth. Religionists would do better to borrow the best in their
neighbors' living spiritual faith rather than to denounce the worst in their
lingering superstitions and outworn rituals.
Here is another I found which I think is relevant for the work we do.
Quote:
The future of Urantia will doubtless be characterized by the appearance
of teachers of religious truth--the Fatherhood of God and the fraternity of
all creatures. But it is to be hoped that the ardent and sincere efforts of
these future prophets will be directed less toward the strengthening of
interreligious barriers and more toward the augmentation of the religious
brotherhood of spiritual worship among the many followers of the differing
intellectual theologies which so characterize Urantia of Satania.
There is much more to the truth. But Islam believe it or not has assimilated
much of the Abners 70 and also has absorbed the disagreements. There is a direct
relationship there. That why I can recognise much in The Quran that is in common
with Christian info.
It probably needs a new book to heal the rift and drag mankind to the future.
But understanding the root cause of the problem gives us better insight and
hopefully helps us to make better decisions.
I believe there is no reason for attacks consider we all follow the same root
truth. In essence.
I hope this was interesting for you.
Also it probably explains the use of words that begin with Ab, Abba, abba,
Abner, Abbes All subtle associations to a prophet or leader.
I like to Add that St Ephraim and his writings was something else. There is so
much of the Seven hymns of the pearls that relates to the discovery of Eden. He
leaves so many clues to what is happening today.
What we are doing by researching this is flushing out the problems with a
solution with additional information from heaven. Its like bringing healing to
all 3 religions through a demonstration. Perhaps!
regards
sevens
Edited by sevens on 09/09/06 03:16 PM.
Hi
Hi Ive been looking into the the differences of Paul's Gospel to that of Abner.
Trying to understand the difference and then identifying the root cause. Abner
was in direct contact with Jesus and leader of the 70 so his teachings would be
equally as valid as the ideas of the occident.
Abner's idea was the primarily The Gospel of Kingdom of Heaven and the
Brotherhood of mankind.
Similar to what we see in Islam essentially and the very early teachings of the
Eastern Christian Branch of Christianity.
Abner was in charge of the Eastern Branch which was headed in Philadelphia. In
revelations there is message to that particular church. I'm assuming that this
blessings is for the end times and being a message for the Church of
Philadelphia, the message extends to the religious branches that subscribe to
this promise which I believe extends to Islam or the religions of the
Abnernarian Gospel of Jesus' message.
Quote:
Revelation 3
7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things
saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he
that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth; 8 I know
thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut
it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not
denied my name. 9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan,
which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to
come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. 10
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from
the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that
dwell upon the earth. 11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou
hast, that no man take thy crown. 12 Him that overcometh will I make a
pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will
write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which
is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will
write upon him my new name. 13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the
Spirit saith unto the churches.
I'm not sure how one would take the latter, you have to search that for
yourself. But I do believe that its a message for the middle eastern and eastern
Med branch of the real gospel of Fatherhood and brotherhood of the kingdom and
who have overcome destruction and division, the works of Satan. There is a crown
reserved and no one is gong to take it away. It gives us further clues that is
connected to the key of David, The key of David which my research indicates is
connected to Eden and its glaring message. Regardless of the name there is a key
involved a mystery, and when that mystery is realised and shared beforehand, the
door will be open for a time and then and then the door will close and no man
will be able to open it, meaning when man realises his demise of rejection and
the door or opportunity is closed. God wont hear his prayers!. I believe that
key is Eden, the discovery of it and it will ensue. Its all to do with a key, a
lock and a door. He who hears the message and adheres to it, the message of
goodwill he will overcome.
That's what I see as the promise to the Abners church and its branches.
Note the, "I make a Pillar in the temple" would that be a reference to the Kabba
stone, "I make a pillar in the temple". Is that a hint.?? and is there a duality
in connection to Eden a pillar in the temple the acropolis Hill and what's could
be a possible ruins of a temple on the hill. A duality connection.
There could be many clues here, and those who overcome are the ones who overcome
the voice of division and warfare. The road is peace and goodwill and there is a
very big promise here for Islam and those who follow and adhere to the truth
which is in the Quran and the Early Jesus gospel of the Eastern Branch, the
Kingdom of Heaven Paradise Gospel. Same message.
I think that is very interesting.
Quote:
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and
he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God,
and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which
cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my
new name.
I find allot in this, Like a ritual that will be replaced by a new city and new
temple that no one has to leave. The city is lowered and the knowledge that new
city extends will be a new book that will have a new name. If this is the case,
it would fulfill the Quran prophecy that it will be replaced by a new book from
heaven overnight. But in a positive light? Not in a light of disaster.
I would also like to pint out the following
Quote:
I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews,
and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship
before thy feet,
Its like today, who is today, pointing fingers at the Jews with accusations and
threats. These same threats is what Gods sees as lies, written in the books
directly, Im not making this up its in black and white. . You can work that one
for yourself. But then It does suggest that they who are pointing the finger and
are motivated with hearts of hate in Gods name will be humbled and they are
associated with the church of Satan. These are the divisive and violent people
who destroy willingly and innocent people in the name of Gods name, all sides.
food for thought.
regards
sevens
Edited by sevens on 09/09/06 10:40 PM.
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Great site, I enjoyed the
links. How deep is it?. If its like 150 feet or so it could relate
this advanced Andite civilisation before Carthage as we know it was
built.
This may be a clue I find in UB it may relate to the people in Malta
and there origins perhaps.
About 5000 B.C. a
mighty host of progressive Mesopotamians moved out of the
Euphrates valley and settled upon the island of Cyprus;
this civilization was wiped out about two thousand years
subsequently by the barbarian hordes from the north.
Another great colony settled on the Mediterranean near the
later site of Carthage. And from north Africa large numbers of
Andites entered Spain and later mingled in Switzerland with their
brethren who had earlier come to Italy from the Aegean Islands.
The buildings in Malta have similar characteristics to those in
Morocco, Pacific Island, Lake Titicaca and Baalbek. All similar
Characteristics. If your pics are ruins I would say they would be
the victims of rising sea levels, a gradual process. Also the
Egyptians were part descendants of the Andite ancestry. The Ad is
another word for them which is found in the Quran which I recently
checked into. I feel the Ad are later descendants of the
Atlanteans/Andites.
I had a look at Google myself. I they look like trenches or fault lines.
I don't think they are manmade at all. I think there would be ruins of temples
under the water as a result of rising sea levels close to Malta. No doubt but
what your suggesting is ridiculous and completely preposterous if you base your
theories on just Google only on unrealistic measurements and no data whatsoever.
However what I would like to suggest is what your finding is probably part of
the ancient coastline of the Sea of Atil, the second sea, if its about a mile
deep. It could be an ancient canyon where a large river ran through and emptied
in the Basin of the Second sea.
I would think that would be a better idea.
regards
sevens
Hi Nikas I did these pics. Im not sure wether you seen
them. I think what you found is simply the gouging effect of the deluge.
Seems to prove the Cyprus theory more so.
also here is viewing from worldwind NASA
Were I cant see your canyon
and here is a 3d view of the gouging effect
and here is the ancient coastline of the ancient Sea of Atil.
and lastly here is one of the submerged Sicilian landbridge looking towards the
west.
