Tablet 7

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Hi Rock

I found this pretty consistent regarding personal will and sovereignty.

http://www.drboylan.com/starnationsmanifesto.html
regards
sevens

[ 01-07-2007, 07:20 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi Rock

I agree its very in depth I am looking at it. No worries.

Here is some apparently Roswell footage

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4139287160539051614&q=ufo+mexico&hl=en

I must say there is allot of UFO action in Mexico. I wonder why that is. Maybe its to do with the connection of the ancient culture of the Mexicans or maybe the Mexican people are generally open and honest people willing to accept things not to mention there strong religious beliefs. I'm not sure but why do the Aliens appear en masse in Mexico?? I just wonder if there is a sentimental and spiritual connection and if there is. Would it have something to do there ancient past and spiritual beliefs of the past.

Consider the Nasca lines. Surely there was involvement from the Aliens I wonder if there is a tie in.

An image taken of an Alien

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8347505111031094831&q=ufo+mexico&hl=en


I suppose the Aliens use Tesla anti gravity technology.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3017194771837860523&q=ufos&hl=en
You know after seeing this video

I reckon there is big lie going on which has deceived mankind. It does say in revelation that the big lie will be exposed.

About the UFOs. Apparently there is a processional force that is created by the UFO engines which makes UFOs a little unstable at very low speeds. That explains what makes UFO wobble at low speed.

One of the Sarajevo video in the above posts clearly demonstrates this instability during hovering.

Its just interesting that the US government totally denies anything to do with UFOs...

I wonder why??

Because they know the real truth!!!???!?!

Anyway UFOs and the suppression/denial could be simply government and big business who want to maintain the status quo of the wretched state of this planet.

However there is ancient records of UFOs even seen in paintings.

We could live in a utopia world! We definitely have the technology.

regards
sevens

[ 01-07-2007, 11:04 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:11 am    Post subject:

Hi Rherman

No worries I'm glad you find the research interesting.

I wasn't sure how far I could go regarding this subject, it can be a little controversial. But in the following link Ive been researching it further, just simply trying to the truth if I can regarding UFOs.

http://forums.atlantisrising.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=000236;p=1

There perhaps might more stuff you could add Im not sure.

But its something that should be addressed and examined in light of what people claim to see and have documented and analyzed so far.

It could also be related to the destiny of the planet.

Anyway all the best.

regards
sevens

Well its certainly interesting the whole UFO debate. Somehow I think it will intensify as time moves on. As people become more aware of this pheonomena.

It appears to be getting more obvious even though I haven't looked at UFOs for years. I think there is a tie in everywhere that connect. Ive been trying to find Eden/Atlantis/Dalamatia in religious books and then to see this evolve into UFO pheonomena was quite unexpected and to find so much was quite enjoyable and intriguing.

I cant help to think of the frequency of sightings and how longer and more interesting they are. Also I found a huge amount of documentation that is available.

I truly wonder where this will lead to considering all things such as the ongoing research. I mean to say this government was unheard of considering the descriptions of a UFO given in Ezekiel.

It would be an interesting study to see if what Ezekiel describes applies in today's world.

Perhaps there is a connection to this pheonomena we see today?

We all know the technology was not around in those days so what we see today must have an element of Ezekiel description. Past to Present.

All I know that what I saw on that video from Mexico fulfilled the description in Enoch and revelation. The sky filled with the Sons of God descending.

If what was seen in Mexico was a small taste of the Seraphic transports I shudder to think worldwide.

No joke, Ive been searching and discovering Eden throughout various religious books and through myth and legend wherever the truth emanates from. Everywhere where I find Eden there is some change or realisation of sort attached in reality.

Considering all realities in discoveries from Eden to Dalamatia and other discoveries could be building up to something. Even in scripture you find that God is referring to the ancient foundations and speaking as if there was some unfinished business to deal with that emanates from those times.

I feel the discovery of these places even the perception and discussion not to mention all the adventures that is related to these places is enough to set the wheels in motion in the way of prophecy fulfilling itself in the most interesting way that you would never think off.

Its like the Past, Present and the future including prophecy, discovery, adventure, faith that unfolds in the most incredible story that has so much depth and wide field of differing dimensions and that encompasses a book of revelation. Like eternity touching time space through history, our origins into today's reality in discovery following the clues to the great mystery. Discovery in the spiritual and the physical in a way that expands our knowledge of all things in a more meaningful and expanded way.

If its right what Im seeing and trying to understand I would think Jesus would have to be endorsing this whole event. Personaly, I see big connection in this whole journey and seems to make all sense in reality. But then I dont know Im just following the clues from all over the place.

Im not sure where this leads but its a great adventure in the unknown. I think this puzzle is coming together into a great harmony which sits well with me. Its really like Stargate or Star Trek in a sense knowing that we are about talking UFOs of all things.

WWWWWWW

the best over
sevens

[ 01-08-2007, 05:28 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi Wanderer

Actually that sounds quite reasonable. I agree with you anything is possible in the digital age.

Like with video you could overlay it with stars if you like which look like ufos.

But then again when you consider the Mexican Air Force infra red video footage of Light flying in parallel with them you would think, why would they even bother to create something like that to fool people?

Particularly from an government institution.

Anyway III keep an open mind there certainly seems to be heaps of information on all levels. If its an conspiracy. What an all time conspiracy it is!
of the grandest scale.

But then what if it isn't and does represent some forward movement of revelatory truth.
Just the fact that this is a reality in the most honest sense and not Hollywood just boggles the mind. Just the fact that we could be in the actual reality of what you see in the movies just blows me away.

In real life, in real happening things occurring on the planet. Its a huge prospect of a great watershed of truth! I really see the potential and the possibilities realizing itself from the journey in discovery and in what happens in the world. kind of thing. For me it appears to be a match of realities from the past present and the future harmonizing. Discoveries of the past in the physical and in the books of the past related to a new book the Urantia book.

The Urantia Book was the primary viechle that led this multiple reality merging. Like in a oneness in space and time that merges with eternity in discovery of truth of the same thing on multiple levels that connect into the angelic dimension through unfolding of the reality of the great mystery.

Gee I hope that made sense. I mean its an personal experience in the journey. And its all linked to our origins and Heaven.

The journey is like a tower to heaven of physical and spiritual in the oneness. Anyway its all compelling and rather intriguing to say the least.

Then you have the UFO pheonomena which is on another level altogether is something else.

Anyway see what happens you never know what one discovers. Regarding pheonomena I suppose these reports go back to the many thousands of years. Surely mankind cant be totally wrong in what he saw and documented on a rock or on a picture or as a recital which became the book.

You know what could be a real event I find the religions rather quite. I wonder what they think and if they see these things?


All the best
sevens

[ 01-08-2007, 05:37 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi

Here is some more information on implants, propulsion systems and explanation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-vOUWb893Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhfcFkkvPFo&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxdvUXZz5XU&mode=related&search=

Enjoy

Sevens

Hey thanks for your beautiful and kind words  I really appreciate them. I find what you say about me is rare I don't receive kind words like that from the Internet. Its really lifts my soul and gives me strength I don't have problems in sharing my journey with you. I'm very happy that you are receiving joy in the journey of this type of truth discovering that I'm experiencing.

Isn't it a way to go a discovery on the run and revealing the search we move forward having faith along the way that you are being guided within and without. Its a beautiful journey in a complete relationship of love and discovery of the Father through these experiences.

The whole key to this I feel is to reveal on the run somehow I think that is good so friends and fellow researchers can find there own threads of truth and share it like you did. I really appreciated I has so much relevance to Dalamatia. I really feel Dilmun lies submerged of Iran's North Eastern coast. I have no doubt. I was looking there last night and I feel I could see it. More so.

Blessings
sevens

Hi Its just a screen capture of NASA worldwind.

Looking into dimun further It appears to me that city began as Dilmun then had its name shanged to Bablot.

In the following are some keywords that describe Dilmun.

The Key words that describe Dilmun are

 

Clues of Dilmun tells me the cultural center adjoins the sea, the tower of Bablot was close to the sea. The tower of Bablot is bigger than anything the world has seen.. It was great commercial center.
Dilmun is to the East of Dalamatia.

It had a large farming environment.


all the best
sevens

Well I hope number 54 comes soon and kick some goals for mankind.

When do you think he will come? From what I saw on a Alien presentation yesterday apparently the Aliens where ever they come from tie themselves to the Mayan calendar of change.

Well according to two crop circles in Mexico.

Also apparently they have a warning as well, which to me no different from what we see in our own scripts.

After seeing the video I can understand where the Mayan got there inspiration of the Nasca lines, the sphere of the Aztecs and there huge religious bent of the Gods, perhaps similar to what we witness today?? Perhaps that's why they had this blood religion to entice the Gods to come back again or something.

You should checkout this video. I feel there are many connections to what we find today in the research regarding Aliens there message, the Aztecs and the Mexicans. Like history coming back to haunt them with the final Alien prophecy of change or transition for mankind!!!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7100421049435171351

The most interesting thing for me is that since researching the ancient places for years now the Alien visitation has become more frequent in those times, more en masse, Visitations that have message through crop circles, more personal conscious visitations etc.

I feel the major occurrences all occurred around activity associated with 1stEden thats my feel about it. Actually I wonder whether all these discoveries are in parallel with the Mayan calendar of change?

regards
sevens

[ 01-11-2007, 12:39 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject:

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject:

Hi

That was beautiful. I really enjoy reading the Adventures of Robert Sarmast. If it wasn't for him all this type of research wouldn't of happened. I'm glad he walked in faith and went out there and found 1stEden/Atlantis. I was so inspired by his efforts that it lead me to search for Eden in the Bible and through other scripts which simply led to where I'm at right now. On the shores of Dalamatia and Dilmun, how fantastic is that!!
I wish Robert Sarmast all the best in all he does in uncovering truth. Robert Sarmast is the biggest history changer around. Where no ones dares to venture to, he goes there and does stuff!

Currently, Im researching the sea level at around 12,000 years ago to make sure Dilmun was above water.

Its interesting that the timeline and the sea levels 12,000 ago seems to be right


 

So it seems to me that 1st Dilmun was above water 12,000 years ago and was occupied. Considering the present ruins isn't that far under the current sea level. This is around the times when the Harrappan coastline cities where lost due to increasing sea levels.

Dilmun from what I can see was a huge cultural and commercial center.

Also

Here is something that seems to indicate an earlier position of Dilmun near the North Eastern coast of the Persian Gulf


 

I wonder what scholarly information leads them to Dilmun on the North Eastern in section of the gulf?

You know the revelators of the Urantia Book whilst they cant reveal unrevealed information. I feel the revelators gives us solid clues of where to search in a very roundabout way. By simply describing Dalamatia and Dilmun they are giving us solid clues that leads us to the place. Its Like with 1st Eden its the same principle.

You just combine all the research and information of all the ancient submerged places and you have the biggest presentation that world has ever seen. by far!! It all points to the fantastic Urantia Book, the book of life! The New Book written in the "hands of Angels"

thanks for the link

Here some image ideas about Bablot/Babel It was supposed to be a huge structure bigger than anything man has seen.


http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel1.jpg


http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel1.jpg



http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dilmun/babel2.jpg

Anyway what I think is a good way to estimate the final demise of Dilmun is by following the second last dispersal of the Andite peoples at around 9000BC from Mesopotamia. It was when the Andites where entering Malta and Cyprus. I suggest that these Andites where refugees from the city of Dilmun and Mesopotamian coastline about 9000BC and have carried the circle emblem in there religion as seen in very ancient ruins in Spain, England, Malta, Cyprus, and other parts of Europe. I feel this circle sign of Bablot perpetuated through those very ancient Andites reminiscent of Dilmun there paradisiacal vista of glory.

A little speculation

However around 6000BC was there last dispersal because of Noah's flood.


I find it interesting that Bablot or Babel is still kept in the legends of religion even from 12,000 years ago. I wonder if there are some elements of Plato in here and whether the record of the Egyptian of Atlantis is really about Dilmun knowing that Egypt would of received these Andite refugees from Dilmun.. Many people seem to suggest Atlantis went down 10000 years which seems to match the Dilmun and Bablot destruction and other areas of the Persian Gulf. Remembering that Dilmun was considered a paradise of Glory and connected to Dalamatia the original home of the Gods. The legend of Dalamatia transferred to the Dilmun after its destruction and then upon destruction of Dilmun itself I would say around 9000BC. The refugees of the destruction brought there legends with them including Dilmun.

The Egyptians recorded this information and was eventually transferred to Plato and then becomes Atlantis if we are looking around 11,000 years ago.

Dilmun, The Harrappan coastal cities and other commercial centers were destroyed in that time. However the only common thing is the circle shape In Dilmun you have the circular temple/tower, the circular temple in Dalamatia and circles mentioned in Plato and the fact that all three places were considered the home of the Gods. All common with Dilmun, Dalamatia, Eden and Atlantis, they were all considered home of the Gods However the Sumerians got Dilmun, Dalamatia and Eden all confused and so as you would expect all the stories of the home fo the gods have cross pollination of descriptions that intersect each other but does need unraveling and better understanding.

If we could prove that Dalamatia and Dilmun the east of it and prove through expeditions these places do exist and we can find evidence of mans existence there it could mean many things. For example of we could prove the date of Dilmun through studies of tower of Babel and the walls to the North around that timeline then we could prove that a renown home of the Gods existed and was submerged this would Parallel the Harrappan coastal city submergence.

Also the Urantia Book gives us clues to stone tablets lay of mealtime prayers which are given in the Urantia Book. If we can find those tablets with the inscriptions then we can work out the language which should be a peculiar writing system perhaps similar to an Aryan tongue sound.

We could find a match to there alphabet of 12000 years ago of the Dilmunites or the Babelots. Remember Dilmun was foreseen as a great commercial center which it was. But that world was wiped out and all other commercial cultures as the cities were destroyed by the sea. Only there legends exist and all mixed in together with all pieces of the real truth.

Just thinking about the location of those tablets with the mealtime prayers.

I feel the tablets could be in Dalamatia being the original home of the Gods and it was destroyed suddenly. So perhaps there lays intact tablets in the rubble.
However in the Urantia Book it tells us that the tablets are off the coast of Iran which leads me to believe that the most important place in Dilmun where the tablets may exist is near the tower of Babel. Perhaps! Remembering that the tower was last worked on 12,000 years ago. At the height of another glory time.

Just imagine doing an expedition over these places just following the clues given in the Urantia Book. Going there in an boat discovering these places, finding the tablets as perceived beforehand through the Urantia book Deciphering the language of the prayers which leads to more discoveries of there libraries or something. If they existed and continue uncovering this massive city that existed for 150,000 years.

Well that would be beautiful and would be possible even in light of the situation. I feel the information behind this would be enough to change the gravity of truth.

I suppose this research using all the knowledge is similar to this following verse.

 

All the best
sevens

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:47 pm    Post subject:

Hi Coors, no Worries

Its certainly and interesting study of ancient Dilmun in the land of Shinar which to me was a wide open plain filled with water. Apparently the Persian Gulf 15,000BC was filled rivers, swamps and freshwater lakes.

Also I was looking at the following verse of Enkis description of Dilmun.

When you consider the following image of Dilmun does look like a match considering

 

Enki I believe is giving us a very clear physical description of the City of Dilmun as discovered.

Dilmun which looks like a big fish with the shrine as the eye.

Also does the fish like description has the appearence of an isthmus with a large swamp area close by?

Also Bablot Tower seems to resemble an eye in the faintest sense! What else uses an eye for a symbol? Remembering this place was the first home of the Nodites! The Nodite culture.


http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel3.jpg

regards
sevens

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:52 am    Post subject:

Yes Brother Coopmon

They were beautiful and clearly outlines the agenda and is very specific and it parallels beautifully.

In the interim I was reading some other posts and I came across this one.
http://www.pyracantha.com/ameshas.html

Saoshyant

 

I was drawn to these key statements

 

Any its a bit late and Im going around the bend I think.

The possibilities are very interesting.

interesting coming from Zoroaster

regards
sevens

On MSNBC tonight 1/14/07 Quest for Atlantis is on @ 7pm CST...8pm EST.

Doesn't give any description to the show, but I am watching anyway !!

Hi Rhermen

How is it going? I hope well. I was thinking about your question

 

Hi Rhermen

How is it going? I hope well. I was thinking about your question

[quote]what does your own Heart Logic tell you? What "rings true" for you?[/quote]

Its funny sometimes I don't what to think about the UFO pheonomena or anything for that matter in all the things that are happening. I mean to say you have a book written in the hands of the Angels that leads us all to 4 major underwater discoveries 1Eden, Dalamatia, Dilmun, The Tower of Bablot/Babel. That's if you think I'm right in what I present. Also going through the adventure in scriptures inside and outside including the Bible, the Quran and reading all the fragments as clues in all the books is just amazing. The spiritual key I realized is having no fear or prejudice in reading the books, with an open mind. Because of the Urantia Book I can simply read these scriptures as I felt my mind was opened further in a wider sense and I could understand the scriptures in relation to Eden and recognize truth in the quickening of within experience like I feel with the Urantia book. Revelational/Evolutional

The whole adventure has been absolutely fantastic and the discoveries within the scripts along with the excitement and exhilaration of discovery was beyond words except giving glory to the father. I mean to say it would be like a charismatic praise and worship...you know... praise the lord, thank you God, thanks Jesus my friend and brother. It was great and that happened many times all over. Just that experience gave me the will power to keep on the journey as a number one priority and its been completely enthralling the whole mystery journey. Working alone it becomes like you and God together working at the great mystery.

Anyway I suppose I'm off topic a little but its a real experience, like in the movies but in real reality, in virtual time, the whole unraveling of the mystery. That rings very true in my heart as a personal witness to the long journey that for me started on a fishing boat. On that flight deck on windless night moon shining brightly with the desire to find Eden. I'm happy I found it in the books and that was a huge blessing for me. For sure and where it led me was beyond my thoughts. I was attempting to prove the existence of the Andites in Africa which included in Malta (circular, co planar ringed temples) and found images of the round headed people of a different culture with interesting features in the SubSahara like a different culture. I was equating them to the possible Andites then after a long journey in scripts I found the clue and quickened to look for Dalamatia through NASA worldwind software Which I did and found what I believe to be the cities. Perhaps the above has something to do with the UFO debate or connection.

Im not sure what to think regarding there existence. Sometimes I wonder whether they have something to do with the Nodites of old. Considering they were more of the Santania line a different type of Human all together. Could the UFOs be a branch of this race that harnessed and evolved higher technology and protected it over 150,000 years and used it over the years? Somehow I don't think so I don't feel quite right about that.

Maybe the planetary circuits are opening and maybe there are celestial fleets of Angels and other fleets in our dimension or that can go in and out of dimensions which includes the Infra red band. When you think about it these discoveries is in line with all these outer events, in my view. It could be a part of an revealing of some sort one including the hidden/lost past through these multiple discoveries in our seas as in lost cities that unifies with the fantastic Urantia Book, the book of life written in the hands of our great angels for us to make the connections spiritually and in the physical way that unifies all levels of knowledge and existence.

Pretty big and then pondering the UFO mass appearances something from the outer, the other realm is quite staggering, You know our universal cousins of stabilized planets could be part of the circuit reconnection physical and in the spiritual.

Quite phenomenal in the way I see it. Yet its all long hours but the experience is worth it. It really is. Its a great family adventure of discovery but through the books of religion in connection with all the physical discoveries.

You know while Im here. I would love to produce a very short movie on the "The young man that was afraid" That for me was the most beautiful story of Jesus counseling the young man with his wisdom and guidance. That to me is a very touching story and has always inspired me in many ways during the journey. You know there is enough here in just this journey to inspire the future leaders of this planet.



All the best
sevens

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject:

.

Hi Coop

Its interesting that

 

Its funny when I made a declaration on the 4th July that was the 7 month When I made the call 4th July and then ran into Enoch 10 week prophecy which was in the same timeline. It had Sevenfold all over it and its discovery of the ancient places in the Seventh Part. I'm sure the seventh part is still in the process as everything becomes apparent.

Here is another little synchronicity
 

Note the date, multiples of 7 on the first month and the documentary has a heavy focus on 1Eden/Atlantis

I thought that was interesting the 7 marker in the date and Eden being presented to millions of people in the USA.

7 and 14(7x2) = 777 3x7=21 Jesus birth date then 21 as in 2+1=3 Trinity or Paradise Trinity

Ahh just having some fun being creative!

But then you have this Documentary coming up

 

I couldnt help myself spoken by Jesus about the Sevenfold peace as recorded by the Essenes.

 

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/eden/essene_eden.htm

Here is an extract 1Enoch. I know its full on regarding the judgment scenario However what I highlighted really spoke to me.

http://www.carm.org/lost/enoch.htm Thanks for the link

 

I think judgement is a spiritual judgment of personal conviction about ones motives and what drives him and is based on the standards of all the books including The Urantia Book, the Book of life. I also feel that when in revelations it says that if your name is not in the book of life you will not survive.(something like that) I feel this has to do with what is within oneself. Its like, if the truth cant be found within you in your daily life bearing good spiritual fruits through righteousness in your heart then the spiritual light cant be recognized as described in all the books.

also in Enoch chapter 3

 

Again we see the number 14 (7+7) 77

And it speaks of a time period of 2 to 3 years does reflect the time period of the process of the light that shall appear unto us, under our noses over a 2 3 year period as in the discoveries? Foilage is that a reflection of using the old knowledge and the new knowledge together until it begins to shine in completeness as we put all the connections together on the run?

Or when the new comes is that day of the Melchizedek?

Most compelling mystery

Its all fantastic!

regards
sevens

Hi Tansneen

 

I thought the above was very interesting from your link
thanks

regards
sevens

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:54 pm    Post subject:

Hi Tramp Swan and Joer
(marathon post sorry, I got going)

Joer it was great reading your post I always enjoy them and they seem to understand how I feel. I really take note of your posts and research I really enjoy it and get inspiration out of them.

I think it would be good the study the Book of Enoch and perhaps identify the gems in Enoch and find the Eastern Mysticism aspect that in error.

Tramp Swan

I enjoyed reading your post to I think your right when you say this

 

I'm thinking about if Sevenfold is Eastern Mysticism and examining whether that is the Eastern Part error in Enoch which could be the error?? The Sevenfold aspect could be an error.

Although In my heart I cant see why! as the Sevenfold is repeated in All the religious books such as the Books of Isaiah, Enoch 1 and 2... III do a search.

Wow after doing a search on the sevenfoldbooks I had to make sure the books I mention does actually contain sevenfold

and

look what I found a fragment of a Catholic Prayer that I documented over a year ago and Look what it says about Sevenfold.


 

Joer did you see that??!!!?

I cant believe it surely the Sevenfold aspect of Enoch is for real even mentioned in the Catholic prayer. Well thats the answer for me about Sevenfold. To me that confirm its credibility

like links in to this

 

There is a interpretation I have thats connected to Eden and the gibraltor break "as the light of seven days, in the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach"

 

We all know its the Urantia Book

Here is a UB word search Urantia

http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=sevenfold&submit=Submit

Surely it must be obvious from the way I see it and I think its through the viechle of 1Eden and all the other places an exansion in experiential of truth and knowledge with an Eternal link and I think Sevenfold and Seven iis the marker throughout time past ,present and future.

back to my search, Im getting going, cant stop!!! through the search.

and then the Urantia Book

 

How obvious is that Sevenfold scheme of training from the Urantia Book.

Back to the search

 

Thats is very interesting in Bold a three fold experience, the highest experience sounds like close to translation experience. Surely this could be comprehended through personal experience and being led?? And connecting in the highest levels in personal discovery like my experience in the scriptures and the Urantia Book through a unification experience of seeing the discovery of Eden in The Urantia Book and off course through technology that led to the other locations which again support The Urantia Book beautifully. Im documented by experience as ongoing positive Saga in the mystery.

Back to the search

Oh and this beautiful piece of Jesus' words in the following

 

How beautiful is that Gee how powerful and beautiful and how Urantia. In the following must be linked to the threefold experience of God the Sevenfold, maybe these angels are part of the sevenfold scheme Seraphim's? of God the Sevenfold Action Corp. I think this research is very powerful, its driven and revealed not knowing what turns up, all driven by faith for the benefit of anyone! In love for one another.

I wander if the threefold experience is linked to these angels. This whole experience sure feel like it. The way you run over these things and connect them.


 

back to the search

Is Enoch wrong here, Is this the mystical section that's in error. The way I sevenfold is in the description of the sun Is that marker of the sevenfold linked to some change of whatever perhaps a judgement of some sort??

 

Is 1st Eden and our foundations have something to do with it. I ask this question to myself? My gut feeling is it has. It would just seem so obvious
Something arising that on one would expect. Like the word biggest secret in the Angelic world now revealed through physical discovery and through the Urantia Book.

How fantastic is that and linked in the books of religion embedded and therefore creating a bridge to Christianity even to the Catholic church of these places and the Urantia Book in theology and through traditional prayers. Unbelievable. A real big connection in world to Peters Church to points to the foundations of the earliest civilisation.

Back to the search

Here some Ovid

 

That shame in heaven referring probably to the fall of both epochs and a warning to guard yourself. Assent given, does that mean permission, granted. Saturnia, sounds like Santania departed heavenwards in her light chariot perhaps a seraphim heavenward to the Santania 7 mansion worlds. In her light chariot..mmmm I wont mention UFO here.

That was real interesting and again you see the sevenfold star aspect again the marker of sevenfold or even seven.

 

And what about Tennyson

 

What a blessing

How interesting is that I feel that has all to with 1Eden and the other foundations and under the sea with mention of Sevenfold but in the way of a Calm eyed sea Snake with love in his heart and shared there immortality through there love. To me that speaks of the tree of life aspect and another clue to under the sea and discovery of the throne, The Acropolis Hill and sevenfold connected through the friendly sea snake. Its about the journey of the discovery or something.

Well we have to examine these things and go from within.

back to the search

 

Again the Sevenfold and the judgment connection but I'm not how in relation to the eastern mysticism

An extract from a Babylonian tablet

 

Book of the dead, the Seven Gods

 

And what about

1 Enoch 92:17 The former heaven shall depart and pass away; a new heaven shall appear; and [b]all the celestial powers shine with sevenfold splendor for ever. Afterwards likewise shall there be many weeks, which shall externally exist in goodness and in righteousness.[/b]

and finally in closing in Jesus words from the Essenes

 

In conclusion after a though examination of the word sevenfold I would like to safely say that it appears to authentic in its use and connection to the discoveries. Its been the major marker and connection with all the books of religion quite worthy of study and all these books talk particularly revelation speaks about the New book which I feel is The Urantia Book.

I hope I haven't upset anyone but to me it was good to see if the parallels work in a consistent harmonization and unification of all the books of truth which points to connection of time space and eternity.

all the best everyone
regards
sevens

All the best

Well Fetish

Thats my research, I am what I am, just sorry if you dont like it, thats the ways it goes. Im on no high horse Im willing to put it out there and test it to see what people think. Thats it. Sharing it.

Far enough, maybe I could of or should of expressed myself differently. Sorry about that.

All the best
sevens

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I wonder which truth was it that he recognised within Enoch. What aspects of this End time book that was very near to the truth. What elements within the book impressed Jesus besides the Son of Man fragments?

Actually, who wrote the Book of Enoch if it wasn't Enoch? and what do they mean by partially accredited??. Whoever wrote the book of Enoch was right on it, so much as to impress Jesus. The author must of been very impressive in his foresight and perhaps in some of his prophetical input.

I feel the Author of the Book of Enoch is very amazing and I feel he describes Eden and its relevance in a very convincing way according to the experience.

regards
sevens

Hey Joer. No worries at all!!
 

Hi Tramp Swan

That quote is very intriguing I wonder if it applies in today's scenario as well as back then. in duality sense.

That is an interesting statement but was he thinking at the time or do you think it relates to today.

In my studies I came across this

 

I found it was an interesting find. I also found out that the 12'ver or twelver sect of the Sharia Islam believe in Jamshids coming again. I think the leadership in Iran believes in this and I was wandering if that could be a reason for the gulf in relations with Iran. I was wandering if there could be an interpretation that could be driving this ideological difference.

Anyway its food for thought and is related to end times scenario in accordance to another culture that appears to be playing out in there own books.

It was intriguing studying fragments of the Avestan, some of the Quran and other books from the Persian area. I'm particularly looking into the Ahura Mazda information and Adamsons link following the threads.

I found quite alot that was relevant to the search of truth.

All the fragments of truth are spread throughout all the books, I feel you can see the work of the Melchizedek sometimes in semi physical form guiding the human author in his inspiration. The author probably had no idea what the relevance was at that time. Not sure! But all the fragments and pieces seem to fall in place and appears to fit nicely into a wonderful presentation.

Gee when it says that Jamshid or the Mahdi arises from well in Jamarakan. I cant help but see the discoveries in this like coming out of a dark place and in the case of Eden hidden but as it arises so does the truth that is accessible of all faiths because every book or faith has a piece that unifies with Eden and the other places in the fantastic Urantia Book.

Here is a piece that I found about Jamshids Cup

 

I thought the parallel of the immortality, the cup and the ancients all represents the tree of life in symbolism and this ancient legend perpetuated in the Holy Grail myth. The actual holy grail came from India according to the myth so it makes sense that therein perhaps lay the connection to both myths in time.

There is alot more to Jamshid that gives me real clues.

Here is also a nice piece I found about Dalamatia

 

And this piece gives us clue where most of the students of Dalamatia came from. Western India in the highlands.

 

Now Im doing a search on the Bon culture which apparently dreived 18,000 years ago in Tibet and in around that area. Could this be another vestige of Dalamatia in name of the founder of this culture.

http://www.bonfuturefund.org/wp/about-the-bon/

I wonder if its Bon as in the UB that this culture was named after. Also this culture would of known about the Amadon/Vanite Culture.

and Bon in the UB

 

Here is somegems in the Bon History

 

and more

 

"West of Tibet, near Mt Kailish" It sounds very close to the Vanite sphere of influence or perhaps this race could be related to the original Amadon/Vanite culture??

Are the Bon the actual long distant product of the original Dalamatia teachings?

Apparently this mountin is also associated with Mt Meru.

 

I wonder in the above are reflections of Van blended into some of the Names as in Vara/Van also Vara has Persian connection with tree of life and Van, same with the UB. Also it mentions the liberation of the 24. I wonder if that is a reflection of something like the council of the 24 or the translated 44 teachers 150,000 years ago or perhaps just simply something to do with translation of a group of people? Liberation high on a mountain.

here is a little UB search on Tibet

http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=tibet&submit=Submit

 

All the best

sevens

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Hi Tramp Swan

Yeah I know it can be all over the place but does need more explanation. Im trying to see if there are links and parallels following the Urantia Book and see if there are reflections in our day or in history.

The research is just a testament of the experience. There are many gaps and things I would add and expand upon. But I figure being in the public on the run makes it even more intruiging from a UB student point of view.

The thing is, this was not ever premeditated nor planned out in a meeting or anything, it just happened and evolved this way. Its all spontaneous following the threads, reading and bearing witness to a truth fragment. Dont know what to do with the research but what I have done is released it before everyone so that it becomes a journey if one sees something in it.

regards
sevens

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:08 am    Post subject:   Hi

I did some looking around for Adamson's civilisation using NASA worldwind software.

I was following the circle thread which I find common in all the places to see if I could find some similar signs in that Narrow fertile belt or midway of it.

Here is a little gallery I made up.

Now I could be wrong, its only software and off course it need further testing but I found it interesting.



http://www.dalamatiacity.com/Adamsons/

Its just a thought where I think the Adamson civilisation lived and dwelt. I think Robert Sarmast was right about that fertile belt.

Surely they would of left a sign that we could recognize today. Like a circle

regards sevens

Im not sure about visibility and Dalamatia but from where I sit, it looks pretty visible.

With regard to band spectrums. I wouldnt be surprised if life exists in those spectrum bands and Angels have the ability to shift in and out of varying bands. Seems UFOs do the same thing, like cloaking. Like multi purpose transmutation on each level.

This UFO thing is all one big mystery it could be a conspiracy or it could be true. Personaly, II'd prefer research into something solid like the UB studies. UFOs really give me a headache it could be government, paladeans, Nodites, Star central....I dont know! its really an open debate. There must be something going on.

Its all a mystery and interesting to contemplate.

regards
sevens

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: The Test of Mankind proposal

Yes would be good to be in the field but no resources to physically explore. I suppose with free to air lousy reception and limited programs the Internet will just have to do for now.

Hey I was thinking Wall street would be happy with it original tower Babel found!!??@%$

Should float it on the Wall str market and get the resources to explore it somehow. Since Babel is not flush with funds at the moment, it could draw resources from its child. However, I don't the Iranians may go for that. I dont think they know these places are on its doorstep.

Forgetting all the above creativity. I just wonder if these discoveries could be used as a viechle for enlightenment on both sides. Like a joint venture into truth where you have both sides and the independent side of the research linking to the UB. With both sides having both the truth of the research and the places. An expedition could be launched as an endeavor for peace and verify the existence of the ancient places and accept the outcome of the discovery and the changes it means to our knowledge.

If the discoveries are verified that would speak louder than words in the way of revealment. Would both sides have the courage to venture on the quest of truth?? Both sides would have to be represented even with a UN rep involved. It would be a challenge of truth where Heaven is represented in the research through its guidance throughout the ancient texts.

Surely, these places must have an purpose in its discovery? Surely they must be in our minds for a purpose. I sit here and I wonder where to now??

The more I think about the proposal the more I like it. All sides would have there truth on the table. What decides the outcome is the truth in the physical discovery. I suppose its like a test of truth on all sides. Instead of war as correction this will be based on multiple discoveries like Dilmun, Dalamatia, the walls of Dilmun and the foundations of the tower of Babel.

If all places are discovered as written then Heaven wins hands down and both sides have to sue for peace and rethink there ideological position since God has declared his hand and revealed himself.

I reckon that's a great idea!!

You know that is a test leadership, there could be certain conditions to comply with like the reality tests on TV. There would be a representative of each country involved, a UN guy and the research team. All places would thoroughly checked and investigated using the best equipment. Also these places are shallow and can be dived and filmed.

All findings would be backed by state of the art research teams with an element of speed, if possible. All documented on the run.

You know if verified it wouldn't be a case of I know better than thou as both sides would learn much about there origins.

Its like a test of Mankind but its in the discovery and the research is like the testament. Like a test for everyone, like two quarrelling brothers and The Father comes to intervene through his books and research backed by the discoveries of the ancient places.

That's inspiring to me and that is unheard of and something totally different.

What makes it authentic is that its been on the run from day one. People can see the progression and where it leads to through ideas and discoveries in the books thus leading us to these places.

I think this is an excellent purpose for these places as in plea for peace and rethinking our whole existence on this planet.

I say in light of this forget about the war option, this is a better way to resolve the present crisis. That's the best idea Ive had all week!!??!!

Now if we could locate the tablets with even meal prayers then the case would be solved and the research would be authentic and would give light the truth of Urantia Book and give greater voice to the teachings of Jesus and all the knowledge about these places.

I would propose that before entertaining some possible war that this proposal should be explored first.

A contest of truth

That is the best reality presentation Ive heard of. The above seems to be a good synopsis.

all the best
sevens

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:35 am    Post subject:  Posted by Joer

P.786 - §1 At one time physicians believed in bloodletting as a cure for many diseases, but they have since discovered better remedies for most of these disorders. And so must the international bloodletting of war certainly give place to the discovery of better methods for curing the ills of nations.

P.160 - §1 Curiosity--the spirit of investigation, the urge of discovery, the drive of exploration--is a part of the inborn and divine endowment of evolutionary space creatures. These natural impulses were not given you merely to be frustrated and repressed. True, these ambitious urges must frequently be restrained during your short life on earth, disappointment must be often experienced, but they are to be fully realized and gloriously gratified during the long ages to come.

P.402 - §6 4. The spirit of knowledge--the curiosity-mother of adventure and discovery, the scientific spirit; the guide and faithful associate of the spirits of courage and counsel; the urge to direct the endowments of courage into useful and progressive paths of growth.

P.483 - §1 The evolution of mechanisms implies and indicates the concealed presence and dominance of creative mind. The ability of the mortal intellect to conceive, design, and create automatic mechanisms demonstrates the superior, creative, and purposive qualities of man's mind as the dominant influence on the planet. Mind always reaches out towards:
P.483 - §2 1. Creation of material mechanisms.
P.483 - §3 2. Discovery of hidden mysteries.
P.483 - §4 3. Exploration of remote situations.
P.483 - §5 4. Formulation of mental systems.
P.483 - §6 5. Attainment of wisdom goals.
P.483 - §7 6. Achievement of spirit levels.
P.483 - §8 7. The accomplishment of divine destinies--supreme, ultimate, and absolute.

P.1123 - §2 What is human experience? It is simply any interplay between an active and questioning self and any other active and external reality. The mass of experience is determined by depth of concept plus totality of recognition of the reality of the external. The motion of experience equals the force of expectant imagination plus the keenness of the sensory discovery of the external qualities of contacted reality. The fact of experience is found in self-consciousness plus other-existences--other-thingness, other-mindness, and other-spiritness.

P.1222 - §6 The expansion of material knowledge permits a greater intellectual appreciation of the meanings of ideas and the values of ideals. A human being can find truth in his inner experience, but he needs a clear knowledge of facts to apply his personal discovery of truth to the ruthlessly practical demands of everyday life.

P.2078 - §3 The sincere pursuit of goodness, beauty, and truth leads to God. And every scientific discovery demonstrates the existence of both freedom and uniformity in the universe. The discoverer was free to make the discovery. The thing discovered is real and apparently uniform, or else it could not have become known as a thing.
_________________
Joe - The more we discover how much we are Loved by God, the more we want to do His Will.

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:56 pm    Post subject:

Hi Joer

How's it going? Well I hope. I really enjoyed your post of some great gems from the fantastic UB.

I really liked them, they all spoke to me especially this one.

 

I hadnt seen that piece before but I was truly inspired. I thought the above in relation to these ancient places was perfect in relation to the proposal I proposed fits beautifully within the boundaries of the above.

That to me feels like some support from the UB. What a way to avoid the bloodletting as people are fearing about Iran.

Why not use the ancient places in discovery to bring about the truth, like truth in there face particularly of we find the tablets with prayers on them.

I feel the multiple discoveries and documented and organized with the purpose of truth and war avoidance is the great idea.

I personally feel that the Father really likes the idea. This would be a proposal that would test everything, all the books and the truth. By the discovery man would have to re evaluate his position has God would be right there with man having the proof in his hand.

He would have to accept the outcome as the outcome of verification would be solid.

Thinking about it. Who would finance such a venture without trying to control the info?? It would have to be someone who also wanted truthful resolve where money is no object. Rare to find.

If such a thing occurred that would be a planetary presentation and discovery where the normal people would love to see the event particularly watching there leaders under the pressure of truth and discovery. Where at the end of the day all that ideology would be smashed in an instant and would call man for a review.

Anyway I think the whole Idea works but it would be matter of permission to check the areas of interest. How would you get that permission without being bold.

By the way the reason I do this is that I'm fed up with all the bloodletting!! full stop.

regards
sevens

Hi Fetish I understand how you feel about the world system. I feel the same. I used to get all angry about the system and attacked the system a bit. But these days I just accept it and strive to bring about improvement.

Its like when I came into the UB I used to get angry with the Christian faith but since I read all the book (not page by page but the relevant points I'm allot peaceful now and I do embrace Christianity for all its short coming. Same goes for Islam, since I looked into the texts using UB eyes and discoveries I see so much more and do understand what the angels did over time.

I'm not fussed about religion or even wall street, they only know what they know.

But now I see a little plan in these ancient places I'm not bothered at all because I know these place by themselves will result in change for the planet.

The hardest part would be the participation of the Iranians. But deep down I would think they are truth seekers as much as us and they, like us , are only under the influence of espoused doctrine and what scholars think they interpret. But when it comes to ultimate truth I would think they would be interested like us.

But its a test to the system of the planet, all systems including Wall/Babel jnr street. All systems will put under the test through discovery and I believe the Father would be present through the research of his servants and the Urantia Book. No escape from discovery and conviction.

Ahh! the test of man, has he got the guts or the courage! What is man made out of courage or cowardness in light of truth.

Is man a man or a mouse!!!

Well see in the future.

regards
sevens

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:11 am    Post subject:

Hi Joer

How is it going? well for you?

Yes I really loved the excerpt you posted. It seems to make so much sense considering the current thoughts.

Its like the UB giving prodding us along paths perhaps in that lead to alternative ways to avoid war and bloodletting.

After thinking about the proposal idea and seeing your excerpt seems to make sense and it felt 100% right.

I suppose the difficulty would be in getting there and permission to explore the area considering the current tensions. Mind you much of what is driving the tensions is interpretation of scriptures or information in the Koran and other books related to the 12ver sect who believe the Madhi is coming soon, according to there own prophecy in there books.

I feel the Iranian government and religious are fairly convinced in there own books. I feel this is what's driving the division. I'm not sure whether they would accept such a thing. Its really dependent on there level of pride which I can understand to venture in the sees and discover these places on there own shores. Same goes for Iraq concerning Dalamatia.

But then truth is truth and its only pride and prejudice that would get in the way of exploring the truth. This would be the major factor in the endeavor however, in the west I feel there would be a number of potential investors in such a project particularly in a virtual real-time scenario such as this. The search for truth through discovery of the most ancient places.

I mean to say it sounds quite outlandish but when thinking about it . It seems like the most logical scenario and its real, Not Hollywood, a real event that points to the beginning, literally the beginning considering Dalamatia, Dilmun and Babel/Bablot and what about those tablets of prayers??

Man o man that would the icing on the cake. That would say everything no one could deny that or pass it off. What's most incredible is that we can decipher the tablets and there language because we know through the Urantia Book the Seven commandments included in the meal time prayers written on those tablets. That's big that would make a big impression on all sides the 7 commandments in the language of Dalamatia or Dilmun depending were there found.

Can you imagine deciphering the ancient tablets, the seven commandments which gives up the first alphabet ever on Earth. What a blessing that is the tablets from Dalamatia in there own written language. That will be the first thing we read, the Seven Commandments. I'm really excited about the possibility.

I am so convinced the UB would not give us these stories and clues if they could not be discovered which have value in the expansion of religion and mankind in general. Its seems so right and logical that these places could be used in a way to bring about the mutual enlightenment of brother and brother that could avoid war.

To me this seems like the best method when you consider the conflict over there. If it was funded and documented properly and with respect towards one another regardless of views it could be a successfull situation that may prevent further bloodletting.

Consider the courage it would take for the leaders to be involved in this kind of thing and the personal challenges everyone would face. One the other hand it could be a very joyous moment. Discovery one after another of the ancient places and everyone has there own personal benefit of it.

You would have the research team going on total faith in the research and the pre expedition material, going by the Urantia Book and NASA software and perhaps some other helpful evidence plus all the research that led to these places initially. You have a Iranian representative/s on board to witness the discovery which should be shared as this is a mission of truth. You have perhaps some people from religion, the major ones then you would have UN reps and reps from a major country, again to witness all things and to go through the research. Why the research could be funded under the UN in some way. Sounds like a big ship you would need.

On the actual expedition the anticipation of all would be quite high as the boat goes from one location to another all feeling anxious filled with perhaps excitement, think of the wonderment and particularly when the evidence begins to unfold and reveal. The Father making this happen to make an impression that leads to truth which maybe seen as subtle hint which hopefully man begins to improve his ways. Like come to settlement and understanding and live in peace with anticipation of better things to come.

Anyway that's one scenario out of many. But I like the idea however it would have to happen quickly as things seems to be moving rapidly.

I have the ideas but no resources at all. Off the top of my head III say about 20 -30 million should cover all basis. Perhaps maybe more if we discover the tablets with the prayers. I believe they could lay in Dalamatia and perhaps Dilmun near Babel, it does say in the UB of the Iranian shores lays the tablets. I also feel the walls of Dilmun would have to investigated and thoroughly researched from end to end. I feel they could be manmade mounds built up as protection which created an enclosure for farming and animal husbandry.

Like with Eden I suppose the walls would have to be checked in the same way. Also the ruins can be reached by divers and observed which is a definite advantage. I think that should be possible for all areas of interest.

All food for thought I just want to say that I'm quite happy to be here. I hope you don't mind my posts in general. It certainly makes life interesting seeing it from a different point of view sharing with fellow brothers of Urantia and exploring the possibilities

All the best
sevens

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject:

Im just coming back to this

 

I think that is exactly what is happening now.

No doubt about it.

I would say the treasure houses are open all this is meant for a purpose in my view.

regards

sevens

Posted: 23 Jan 2007 03:40 am    Post subject:   Hi Qoasis

How's it going? well I hope.

With the worldwind software there buttons on the top of the screen. Just press the filters until you get the desired effect I think the button was the NLT Im not sure.

With the second transmigration of the pre Greek I'm not sure on the actual timeline either. Maybe 12,000 years ago or so. Im not sure at all. But from what I can see they migrated to the islands of the Med and became the Ionians and then the Greeks. There is more I have to research on that.

It would be an interesting study to pin point the timeline. I figure when Dilmun went down was around 9000-10,000 years ago I'm sure they migrated as well to the island of Malta and Cyprus with the circle emblem. I figure they were the Andites. Knowing that they did migrate to Egypt I wonder whether the Egyptian priest somehow encapsulated the story of the submergence of Dilmun by the use of the circles as in the story of Atlantis. Considering the circular foundations of Babel in Dilmun.

I'm trying to piece together myself.

What ideas do you have of the timeline.

regards
sevens

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:41 pm    Post subject:

sevens



Joined: 14 Dec 2006
Posts: 84

 

Hi Tansneen

Wow! they were some pretty eye opening prophecies held in the Hadiths and the Quran. I was impressed by all of them seems to highlight much of what is happening today.

It simply highlights how every religion has truth within itself. Imagine if you combine all the truth fragments and prophecies of all the books together you would have the whole end time scenario perhaps in a nutshell and in detail.

But because of division we don't see this. It also demonstrates that no one can afford to be exclusive about there religion as exclusivity only creates division in my view, prejudice.

Tansneen do you know if there are any prophecies in the Quran of the Hadiths that have anything about hidden in the waters or some thing to that effect. I was thinking if these places are in prophecy within the Quran about these ancient places "hidden in the waters" or "hidden", that might make easy for Islam to embrace these places which may lead to the desire to discover of there shores.

All the best
enjoyed the posts.
sevens

posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:28 pm    Post subject:

No worries Tansneen.

thanks for that, see what happens. I try and have a look to I did some word search in the Quran sometime ago and found some interesting things but not to much about these places. I thought I found something about hidden in the waters but I could of been dreaming as I could not find the references a second time.

With prophecy I'm still thinking about it. However I do feel that the angels do give man glimpses of the future and clues when its appropriate.

Also here is a link to some searches I did of the "Garden" in the Quran. I tried to see if there was any clues in relation to Eden in the physical at that time. I highlighted what I thought could be a subtle clues although it I feel it does talk about the garden in metaphor but sometimes I feel there could be physical clues that relates to the experience.

I hope it helps.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/eden/quran_garden.htm

Here is a beauty, it interesting going through the research again



 

Here is another link to various searches. I must say it needs more work and study but there could be clues there to the current reality.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/eden/quran_header.htm

Remembering that having no pride or prejudice and willingness to examine other books of religion is the key to the hidden secret or mystery.

Well, in my view.

Here another set of little excerpts from here
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/053.qmt.html#053.006

There is more in the link.

The below for me seems to have reflections to the Garden of Eden, the lote tree is a metaphor for the tree of life. 053.017 I feel the reflection in this passage is journey beforehand. We all knew it was there in relation to Eden Robert Sarmast was spot on and accurate and didn't swerve in the call to realize Eden and the same goes with the research of the other places. Same experience unswerved and unmoved in the determination to explore and discover. "For truly did he see, of the Signs of his Lord, the Greatest!" That is so true and points directly to the ancient places and its purpose and to me they are the signs of the great day that may be soon approaching. What else could these place be??? Its seems so logical to me.



 

I don't about anyone else but if you read the above link fully I feel it gives us a clear picture of today in relation to the ancient places.

Note: the connection of Garden and the tree of life as seen as the Lote tree enshrouded in light and mystery. Eh! What are we talking about today in discovery and in the word especially in Enoch and the tree of life and the foundations mentioned in the bible and other books!

So we have four major components that parallel in today's experience.

The Garden of the Abode (the tree of life)
The Lote Tree (The tree of life)
unspeakable mystery (The journey and the discovery of the ancient places)
Signs of the lord (I think the ancient places are the signs)
truly did he see, (The person/s was right in his conviction about what he had seen beforehand as he followed the threads of truth.)

By the way , the mention of "Signs of the Lord" sounds very Christian to me. I wonder if this piece was related to the Abnerian truth within the Quran??

Much food for thought here I think!!$@%#%

 

Perhaps upon confirmation of all the places could be a good setting for the below.

 

and

Gee I could go on forever. Thats it last one
 

"whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;"
It appears the Quran recognise the same prophets is written about in the Gospel and other books of religion. That's interesting its in all the books as acknowledged in the Quran. Quite impressive.

 

and

 

The Great Urantia Book;

The many religions of Urantia are all good to the extent that they bring man to God and bring the realization of the Father to man. It is a fallacy for any group of religionists to conceive of their creed as The Truth; such attitudes bespeak more of theological arrogance than of certainty of faith. There is not a Urantia religion that could not profitably study and assimilate the best of the truths contained in every other faith, for all contain truth. Religionists would do better to borrow the best in their neighbors' living spiritual faith rather than to denounce the worst in their lingering superstitions and outworn rituals.
http://mercy.urantia.org/cgibin/webglimpse/mfs/usr/local/www/data/papers?link=http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper92.html&file=/usr/local/www/data/papers/paper92.html&line=158#mfs

Remembering the journey in the search for Eden in the books ended up being on the premise of a test regarding hidden foundations, and beforehand fragments finds in the books and the prime revelation, the Book of Life, the great Urantia Book.

all the best
sevens

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:36 am    Post subject:   Your right 36,000 thousand years ago. Thats interesting being close to the time of Adam and Eve. I wonder where they got the 36,000 years from?

I found what you found quite interesting. There seems to be quite a few translations of the Emerald tablets.

To be honest I would have to do more study in this area. I just came across the emerald tablets 3 weeks ago on Crystal links. I was intruiged and to be honest it sounded very close to the Urantia ideas. Like 38,000 years ago, it seems that both books have the same date.

Do you really think the tablets are 38,000 years ago, When you consider other versions. Is it the same version?? I dont know.

Also Isaac Newton tablets he was transcribing, was that said to be around 800AD? Also Is the tablets of Toth related to the Hermetic ideas and is the Hermetic thoughts or philosophy derive from the East?

To be quite honest they probably come from 800AD but I dont know maybe they are 38,000 ago. Just have to try and find out, maybe there is a clue in the words that will reveal its age.

Actualy III go there now to the tablets and find some things that interest me.

Maybe one comes from the other, Im not sure whether they are related.

THE EMERALD TABLETS OF THOTH
http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald.html

The Emerald Tablet
http://www.crystalinks.com/emeraldtablet.html

I gravitated to this

 

I still have a few questions like I would like to find more about Dorreal, More authentic data or images or something.

I suppose it gives us a new insight into Atlantis.

All the best
sevens

Hi Ideo

Thanks for your post. I always hope you get value in the fragments and links, if only one person gets value Im happy.

no worries.

Anyway what I propose and declare with the ancient places is a

 

quote:

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"The Test of Everything"
Peace through discovery
the seven parallel

In essence what I propose is a major expedition within the Persian Gulf exploring all the proposed submerged sites as seen using NASA software.

The expedition would on based on the research following the seven research in conjunction with all the books as a commentary in the timeline of the leads that led us to these places. All research is drawn from all the books of religion from various truth fragments found within them and connected with other common scripture regardless of book. The Urantia Book will be prime source and made open as its the only book that points literally to these locations.

The premise of the expedition is truth as in search of the lost cities as mentioned in the Urantia Book and as seen in the NASA software and other supporting evidence. The expedition would comprise of all the surrounding nations within the area and probably the UN being a planetary project of truth. Being a test of all things where all nations must be involved.

The expedition will simply be a test of all the knowledge as a demonstration of truth through the research that led to these ancient places and the actual discovery of these places. Simply, The ancient places are either there or they are not.

All parties including the universal and planetary government will be in the same arena of the test of everything. Everything that each side to purport will be tested by discovery and highlights the new book, The Urantia Book as the new revelation as mentioned in revelations.

This proposal is also reflected in the Quran so this should be acceptable to the surrounding nations.

 

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YUSUFALI: The Day that (all) things secret will be tested,

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If people need healing its the nations in the middle east but also this research could bring correction to erroneous ideas and could have the potential to bring about peace in the area through enlightenment. Through the expansion of knowledge by the proposed expedition.

The 4 main target areas would be
1. Dalamatia where the 10 major divisions of Dalamatia can be seen. I would propose a diving expedition there including a core samples of the location.

2. Dilmun where the walls of the rectangular plain of Dilmun can be examined to see whether they are manmade and purpose built, scan the general area for other possible manmade remains. Analysis of the general area of the main city of Dilmun. All areas can be dived.

3. A complete dive and analysis of the foundations of the Tower of Babel including the surrounding platforms that surround Babel and comprehensive study of the walls of Babel itself

4.A search in both Dalamatia and Babel for the tablets of the evening meal or sections of the 7 commandments of Dalamatia.

The highlight in the expedition would be the discovery of the 7 commandments. If the writing could be read we could then decipher the language of Dalamatia. The first language. Imagine if the tablets was found in Babel considering the confusion of language that came from.

The goal of the expedition would be simply highlight truth as in discovery as mentioned beforehand in the books and create higher sense of knowledge and understanding of our history and origins. Its is hoped that in light of these discoveries that current world leaders will serious reconsider themselves and think again in there actions and to avoid war.

Anyway that's my proposal for a solution for the area and a big wake up call for the planet.
 

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regards
sevens

[ 01-28-2007, 01:18 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi

I say leave it here.

Most UB students are intelligent and smart they can work things out for themselves.

Plus it demonstrates that the UB is dynamic and harmonizes with all the books and shouldn't be hidden away or locked up as everyone else seems to do in the volts of religious history.

Knowledge is Freely given, and should be freely given away.

regards
sevens

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Hi Fetish

That was interesting but I'm concentrating on the submerged places as 2ndEden would be all gone or built upon.

I think the other places would be better preserved being submerged and hidden and therefore would make a better point as it could be seen and discovered.

Its either we sit around and continue the talk fest or we can actually do something purposeful and physically for the planetary destiny because the current religions ain't going to solve this problem as they are all to shallow and secular in the depth and range of knowledge and don't have much opportunity to seek the real truth and origins of the area because of this gross limitation.

I feel this bondage on the religions has to be cracked wide open and debate has to be focused on the results of a demonstration of the Father through discovery. I believe this is the only effective ticket that will crack open religion and uplift it for all mankind through the refinement of truth. I cant see any other way unless we want to sit here for another 1000 years just talking about the same ole problems making very little planetary spiritual progress. While countries arm themselves with nuclear weapons and thats is a fact so dont delete this part. Thats the truth!

All the main religions definitely need refinement as there is too much doctrinal baggage of out worn beliefs, thought and perception with limitation thus creating shallowness and very little depth.

The only active sections of most religions are the embedded or hidden clues to the great mystery. These are the markers that will come alive as we pursue the physical discovery of the ancient places, in there own books of religion.

I was thinking about the midwayers, basically there job here on earth is essentially babysitting man. Man in general is just a big baby most of the time, getting it all wrong because of wrong motives and coupled with limited views of religion and doctrine. The midwayers must be so used to disappointment, most of the time because of the limitations of man in his spiritual bondage and lack of!

Another point I dont care for a moment who goes there to discover these places provided that the Most High and The Father are honored publicly upon discovery and the Urantia Book is proclaimed as the book that made it happened Because that is where the ultimate and absonite truth of this whole experience comes from and it lays with the Urantia Book.

The Book of life!!!! written and given by the hands of angels!

By the way feel free to edit the post!!

all the best
sevens

Hi Tramp Swan

You can lock up the subject that no different in suppressing truth. Gee there only thoughts.

Locking things gives no accessibility to the UB student.

Anyway lock it up if you like but I will still continue this path of enquiry.

But man has to know what's happening he cant be left in the dark all the the time. Locking it up is just one step towards secularism even in the UB centers of circles. Aren't we doing what all the faiths do, locking it up and that's part of the reason we have wars and evil things because of locked up truth not made accessible to mankind. Secularism.

I mean to say most Urantia readers come from other religions where they have been overwhelmed by the fear doctrine and end days and hell and all kinds of things. The UB readers are experienced in religion, they know what's going on and I feel most of them are intelligent readers and want to be informed and to know cutting edge research as that's lifts there faith.

Why should anyone be left in the dark for fear of fear itself or its just too hard.

Come on lets get some courage, boldness and faith going here. We have all been led to the Garden of Eden now lets go for the other places since they are in our sights and discover them with real intended planetary purpose.

We are faith sons of the Father all of us, we go by faith, let not fear get in the way, that would only mean victory for those who want to lock up information and prevent it from its intended use.

Did Jesus ever lockup the 70 disciples in there preaching of the kingdom of heaven? Did Jesus ever lock himself up in his ministry? No he shared the truth as he saw it and understood it from his studies and research.

Also not many people are interested in this, believe me the world does not care about this information. You can shout to the hill tops and the world will not respond. I know I see it everyday for years now.

I could put the best part of my research up and man will not give a damn except if it fattens his gut. Even the churches don't respond to this. Nothing, absolutely nothing.

Don't worry about it they are asleep in a big way. They know there is change coming but they have no idea of the logistics. They are great for expounding things but when it comes to the real big things, its just over there heads because they aren't interested in this truth when it comes down to it because they have a different agenda. Whilst they say great things about Jesus there congregation is controlled by the fear doctrine and we all know that and that's why they lock up things. All these churches and other faiths are fear ridden that's why the Father can only work with them in a limited way or in no way at all. Because they are not accessible! Because there minds are locked up and filled with only certain truths which is filled with bias and in some cases pride and prejudice!

That's a no win situation for the Father. That would be the useless branch that the Father prunes of the vine.

Gee I went to a couple of bible colleges and I know what they teach and there methods and it is nothing compared to what is in front of your eyes.

Man today is either a man or a mouse. Which is it??

Or maybe its up to the women of the world, maybe they have the courage and faith that man lacks because of his fear. Maybe man is the mouse and we today have to rely on the women of great faith to make things happen.

There is a prophecy in the Book of Mormon where the Church will be rebuked for not responding to the call because of a lack of faith and research, they will get no prizes but they will survive according to the Mormons.

If something of change is attached to these places everyone will be caught out unaware and by complete surprise. Believe me I wouldn't underestimate anything regarding this journey to the ancient places.

All I would say is be aware and don't reject everything. Sometimes the greatest thing comes from the smallest people or even the Village idiot. That's what the Father intended.

Anyway all the best Tramp Swan and nothing personal or anything like that.


regards
sevens

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:45 am    Post subject:

Hey Joer that was interesting post.

As for me III rest my case, Ive presented what I thought through the timeline experience in prophecy and thats it.

Everyone can make up there own mind, its out there in the open, no restriction.

If its true and correct it will manifest, then again if its all just a mindal thing all this work will simply be an archive. Big deal!

So all the best everyone I wont discuss this any further.

Great blessings to all and thanks for the opportunity to express my work.

You know my work its out there. Im very happy people here are aware of it, lets see what occurs in the timeline being a completely faith project. Lets see what faith does.

Whether you like it or not you are now all apart of the journey.

Lets see what happens!

Tramp Swan thanks for not deleting my posts I really appreciate that very much. Normaly most forums including Urantia based forums delete all. The only forums that hasnt deleted my posts is Atlantisrising.com. Thats why I keep a record of everything that is said, being part of the testament and journey.

III leave you with this

 

The Midwayers


and

 

Blessings
sevens

Everyone can relax now hehe!

http://www.crystalinks.com/elysium.html

Elysian fields was linked to Dilmun maybe the refugees from Dilmun went to these areas as suggested in 10,000BC and inhabited Europe and the Med when the water level rose in the Persian Gulf and sunk the original city of Dilmun where Babel exist. Perhaps maybe the Dilmunite refugees brought tales and myths of the City of the Gods of Dalamatia and the early days of Dilmun and perhaps that some how intermingled with the Plato story.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel/index.html

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel1.jpg

sevens

[ 01-29-2007, 07:55 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi

I think maybe the Egyptians got there truth from a previous culture whose symbol was an eye in a triangle. I feel this earlier civilisation came from Dilmun where the tower of Babel was situated around 12,000 years ago. When Dilmun was submerged by rising sea levels its knowledge and myths where passed on to the Egyptians through migrations.

The foundations of Babel in submerged Dilmun "The eye in the triangle" culture.
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel3.jpg
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel/index.html


Another symbol in the Egyptian symbolism that connects with Dilmun is the circle. The Andites came from Dilmun around 10,000 years at around the time Dilmun sank like Atlantis sinking in Plato's story 10,000 years ago (the timeline). Perhaps, maybe!.

Even if you look at Babel from this angle it looks like an eye in a triangle same as you see in Egyptian eye in the triangle symbols. In those ruins may lay tablets with writing or maybe in Dalamatia.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel1.jpg

pretty weird!

Here is a thought, perhaps form this place comes the origins of free masonry. The Egyptians basically transferred this knowledge on from Dilmun the land of Bablot.

I suppose if these hunches and threads are right well there's Babel. The truth laid bare! I suppose "all that is hidden will be revealed" Enoch.

Maybe the Dilmunites are the Ad as spoke about or the Adites, the Aditya or the Andites. The Egyptians recall this place in the Book of the Dead as Dilmat, land of the maat. However the legends of the Gids immortal of Dilmat or Dilmun is based upon the earlier culture of Dalamatia the true culture of the Gods which itself was submerged 150,000 years ago by a tidal wave.

The Sumerians of 6000 years ago keep a record of Dilmun through the reflections of Enki. Dilmun and Dalamatia reflections have always been confused in the record.

Interesting the Dilmat/Egyptian and Dilmun/Sumerian connection and also Dilmun is associated with the Elysian fields in Greek mythology.. Perhaps the Egyptians where reflecting upon this place Dilmat/Dilmun of the paradisiacal glory of the Gods that submerged 10,000 years ago. Like in the Plato story and the connecting circle symbol.

some thoughts
sevens

Hi

Well its not a full triangle wrapped around the eye.

But its a circular foundation of a temple and there are 2 remnants of walls that are connected to it or close to the circle, then as fan out from the circle/temple the wall run parallel and then fan out. There seems to be form about it. The whole structure appears to surrounded by a depression which seems to have the appearance of a triangle.

To me it looks very curious.

Its exactly where it should be according to the information that led me there.

The only way is to go there and verify. It looks to me the place was built on a peninsula where the was the Shrine, Dilmun was all about. To the north there seems to walled areas for produce and animals.

sevens

[ 01-30-2007, 08:41 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi

Wasnt the Etruscian civilisation only 800BC

 

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Culture that is identifiably and certainly Etruscan developed in Italy after about 800 BC approximately over the range of the preceding Iron Age Villanovan culture. The latter gave way in the seventh century to a culture that was influenced by Greek traders and Greek neighbors in Magna Graecia, the Hellenic civilization of southern Italy.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etruscan_civilization

Im talking about 12,000 years ago time, of when Atlantis or some city of the Gods was supposed to of sunk as legend speaks of. Why we speaking about Italy.

sevens

[ 01-30-2007, 09:11 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

http://www.thendtimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9330#9330

Hi Figure this

Because these ruins lay of the coast of Iran. Just say if the leader there catches wind of this and performs his own expedition and discovers these ruins and proclaims himself to the nations as proof of what he has been saying and therefore glorifyinh himself and denying the real truth and origins of the discovery.

There is a strong possibility that these ancient foundations could be defiled by a lie.

Its a strong possibility of Revelation fulfilling itself.

Think about it?

Just a thought!

sevens

Hi Brother Matt and Jimmy and Petra

Thanks for the welcome.

I appreciate it. Brother Matt Ive been researching the Urantia Book for a number of years and still do. But what I do is I research the book in conjunction with all the other books of religion to see if I could find connecting ideas and parallels in my search.

A number of years ago I began a search for Eden in the Bible, Enoch and a whole variety of other religious Books of different cultures. I must say I have not been disappointed at all. Since I began the enquiry for Eden in the books my appreciation of the Books, including the Bible has increased 100 fold.

From my personal journey I am convinced that the truth of the last mystery in contained in fragments all across all the books. From my observation I am sure that the ancient places and the discovery of them is all part of the signs of change.

However before any change occurs I feel the truth of our origins has to be laid bare before mankind. I also believe that relating information has to be present before change and information that connects, parallels and completes in the harmonization of science and religion. All knowledge coming together in the oneness of the Father.

I am quite happy to post my journey and what I found along the way if that helps us to understand this time and with perhaps greater accuracy...maybe!

I found that by extending the research from the Bible in all the books of religion gave me a better idea of the whole scenario as well as the dangers involved as I expressed in my last post.

I posted the information here so that you know the progression from religious study and before anyone discovers this you know the progression of discovery in truth. This is to prevent false claims and particularly by someone or individuals using these discoveries for there own self vain gloriousness which can happen with leadership of countries that is guided by religion in order to prop up there position. You may know who I'm referring to.

The beautiful thing in this journey is that its in all the books which all work in harmony together with respect to Eden and all its attachments. There is certainly no fear in the studying all the books and that's why many things were discovered that really connect beautifully.

I have no idea of when or time of judgment but I do know that the signs that will appear, will change our understanding of our history and help us to appreciate the information we study. In a sense the correction of our knowledge has already began through discovery backed by what is written in the word. All these ancient places where discovered by following the threads of truth in the books coupled with the use of technology.

The more we discover and put the scenario together the closer we get. I believe this whole judgment or change process will be wonderous in discovery and that will change our understanding. However the greatest hindrance in all this can be the fear to examine other books as people feel reluctant because of what is taught. All I know I went forth in faith in all the books including the UB and the Bible and it led to me to these ancient places in parallel and sequence with the words of the books of religion.

Honestly when preachers bag other books and denigrates them, don't believe them, there is just so much value in all these books of revealed religion. Even the Apocrypha books are filled with so many fragments that relate to Eden and change.

Anyway thats a little of where I come from.

I hope the info helps in the great mystery.

All the best
sevens

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:56 pm    Post subject:   Hi Brother Matt and Jimmy and Petra

Thanks for the welcome.

I appreciate it. Brother Matt Ive been researching the Urantia Book for a number of years and still do. But what I do is I research the book in conjunction with all the other books of religion to see if I could find connecting ideas and parallels in my search.

A number of years ago I began a search for Eden in the Bible, Enoch and a whole variety of other religious Books of different cultures. I must say I have not been disappointed at all. Since I began the enquiry for Eden in the books my appreciation of the Books, including the Bible has increased 100 fold.

From my personal journey I am convinced that the truth of the last mystery in contained in fragments all across all the books. From my observation I am sure that the ancient places and the discovery of them is all part of the signs of change.

However before any change occurs I feel the truth of our origins has to be laid bare before mankind. I also believe that relating information has to be present before change and information that connects, parallels and completes in the harmonization of science and religion. All knowledge coming together in the oneness of the Father.

I am quite happy to post my journey and what I found along the way if that helps us to understand this time and with perhaps greater accuracy...maybe!

I found that by extending the research from the Bible in all the books of religion gave me a better idea of the whole scenario as well as the dangers involved as I expressed in my last post.

I posted the information here so that you know the progression from religious study and before anyone discovers this you know the progression of discovery in truth. This is to prevent false claims and particularly by someone or individuals using these discoveries for there own self vain gloriousness which can happen with leadership of countries that is guided by religion in order to prop up there position. You may know who I'm referring to. Really these ancient places are to be used for the physical and spiritual education of man not to be used for self glory nor to be used to influence man for self ego political purposes. Im afraid that would defile the ancient places!

The beautiful thing in this journey is that its in all the books which all work in harmony together with respect to Eden and all its attachments. There is certainly no fear in the studying all the books and that's why many things were discovered that really connect beautifully.

I have no idea of when or time of judgment but I do know that the signs that will appear, will change our understanding of our history and help us to appreciate the information we study. In a sense the correction of our knowledge has already began through discovery backed by what is written in the word. All these ancient places where discovered by following the threads of truth in the books coupled with the use of technology.

The more we discover and put the scenario together the closer we get. I believe this whole judgment or change process will be wonderous in discovery and that will change our understanding. However the greatest hindrance in all this can be the fear to examine other books as people feel reluctant because of what is taught. All I know I went forth in faith in all the books including the UB and the Bible and it led to me to these ancient places in parallel and sequence with the words of the books of religion.

Honestly when preachers bag other books and denigrates them, don't believe them, there is just so much value in all these books of revealed religion. Even the Apocrypha books are filled with so many fragments that relate to Eden and change.

Anyway thats a little of where I come from.

I hope the info helps in the great mystery.

Petra, I met Coulter on another forum, Ive read his posts they are excellent, he has alot of knowledge.


All the best
sevens

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject:   Hi Wolfman66

Its certainly an interesting topic although because I mention the Urantia Book it no means that Im here to replace anything nor to influence people where they drop there truth. On the contrary I found that since incorporating the UB, the Bible and all the books together my love for all the books have increased immeasurably.

I'm really here to share my research in the hope that it could fill the gaps of the end times, perhaps! and to be of some assistance if I can in any other way. I remember when I began the search for Eden in all the scriptures and books I really desired to find a bridge between the UB and Christianity through commonality. I really believe that by the focalization on Eden throughout the books and its clues brings us faith sons closer together.

Also in the far past I went to a couple of Bible colleges in search of truth so I do have some familiarity in the Christianity however it has been a while since I have been to church. Mostly these days my church is in my research in all the books and keep myself open to where the Father wants to be in this research in the attempt to find commonality amongst all the varying religions. Whilst finding commonality I also found that these days I'm allot more peaceful about religion and I don't seem to be aggressive towards the inconsistencies either because of a greater sense of understanding a product of the journey to Eden.

Anyway I think its is absolutely great that religionists can come together like this and share information for the good of the whole body. I think its great that Urantia Book students and Bible Students can come together like this and share information particularly on the run.

Wolfman66 in regards to Eden the location of the 1st Garden of Eden was submerged 36,000 years ago between Cyprus and Lebanon. The discovery of Atlantis is all to do with 1st Eden (the original) the of location of the 2nd Garden of Eden, after expulsion is between the Tigris and the Euphrates.

The location of Babel that I submitted is located in Dilmun of the North Eastern coast of Iran. This is the home of the Nephilim after there rebellion in Dalamatia. Originally Dilmun was built 150,000 ago by the Nodites and the Nephilim. The Dilmun myths of the physical paradise of the Gods stem from Dalamatia when things where in harmony.

However there is another place where the Nephilim lived before they feel in rebellion and that was a place to the east of Dilmun called Dalamatia. This location was the true home of the Gods. Nephilim before the fall, after the rebellion, Dalamatia was destroyed by a tidal wave where the population migrated to the North and to the East in Dilmun.

Here is a initial picture of Dalamatia but I will start a thread on it eventually.


http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/overview.jpg

This is the place where the Gods came down from Heaven to teach man civilisation but the plan went wrong 150,000 years ago. Literal fall of the Gods. The Spiritual administration. The Lucifer rebellion.

Now I know some of these dates seem wild but that's why its important that these ancient places are fully investigated by the honest and sincere God filled researchers who will express honestly, without some other self vain glory agenda. This is where I feel the lie or deception as expressed in the Bible can appear. Where people of power who can use these ancient places to further there own spiritual agenda which is not common to all mankind. Maybe I could be a little worried here but I thought by sharing this we can see the progression of this and see if there is commonality in scripture and see if this part of the signs????

That's why its important that UB and Bible students alike know what's happening step by step. Its also a learning experience for us all as a body and like minded individuals who simply love Jesus and desire to do the will of the Father in Heaven and within us through the Holy Spirit, being led in our own way.



regards
sevens

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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:45 am    Post subject:   Hi Stephen,

No worries I understand what your saying. No problem.

But so far I haven't been disappointed and I am going by faith in the journey. However, I'm aware of the problems that can occur and that's why I share this. To see what you think.

I appreciate your concern. That's why its important that an expedition is conducted to examine these areas to see the facts of the matter. Also in these ruins should lay some tablets with the evening meal prayer. These tablets could lay in either Dalamatia or Dilmun perhaps near Bablot.

Because we know what's written on the tablets beforehand, if we discover the tablets and decipher the writing we could then read the first alphabet. These prayers were a commandment out of the Sevens commandments then. Gee! imagine that discovery of the 7 commandments. The first ones!

The discovery of the 7 commandment tablets, to me would be the stone taken out of the mountain that filled the earth as mentioned in Daniel which incidentally smashed the pieces the iron and brass or changed world knowledge. But that's my speculation!

But the discovery of the 7 commandments wow!

That would be something and would verify the journey and the information.

Its all a real test of faith. The expedition that I propose in my thoughts would be called "The test of everything" Literally testing all the information in particular the Urantia Book and ruins that lay there. In my view.

With the Eden and the stone wall being discovered which is mentioned in the UB was an example of word and physical discovery that relate to our origins.

I'm seeing the same pheonomena occurring in the same way with these ancient places. All these ancient places or foundations are being discovered for a reason. I am convinced but everyone has to do there own research and see what they come up with.

Anyway this is one scenario out of many.

However, if the 7 commandments or one written commandment on a tablet were discovered that would mean that the information that led to the discoveries would pass the "The test of everything" test.

That's why I proposed the test of everything test, lets see where the truth lays. Lets see what the Father has install of us all. The end times are going to be a correction time so that means our knowledge will be corrected and complete. Apparently there will be a new book given to us in the hand of angels. So a new books and other books are involved and then you have the seventh angel which I interpret that as the Sevenfold angels.

There is so much to this. If the Urantia Book is a deception these places should prove it without doubt. In regards to the test of everything

 I submit the Urantia Book as the first book to be tested against the ancient foundations as seen submerged in the Persian Gulf.


Thanks
sevens

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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:44 am    Post subject:   Hi

 

I felt the above verses very intruiging, the end from the beginning and from the ancient times outstanding business.

I find that very interesting. I wonder if this all to do with the ancient places and the resolve of the things that happened there.

just a thought

sevens

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:47 pm    Post subject:   Hey Jimmy

No problems at all I understand what you saying in relation to the Bible and authority no problem.

I respect that. What I doing is just adding some extra information just for observation reason so that youre in touch with this perspective. So Iam quite happy to stay with Bible as much as I can however I will touch on the UB if I see a gap the UB can fill.

From what I understand about judgment through the bible is that
 

In the following is some fragment threads on the Sevenfold that I found along the way. The Sevenfold i embedded in all these ancient scriptures which is als within the Bible. I feel the Sevenfold is very universal in time past and is reflected in the religions of the past.


Here is the Sevenfold in a fragment I found within a Catholic Prayer that I documented over a year ago and Look what it says about Sevenfold and it relation to a mystery.


 

The Sevenfold aspect of Enoch mentioned in the Catholic prayer. Well thats the answer for me about Sevenfold. To me that has credibility.

It kind of links into this

 

There is an interpretation I have thats connected to Eden and the Gibraltor break " presented in metaphor in as Eden which was destroyed by a breach of the Gibraltor dam and the reference of the breach and the binding up of the breach, to me expresses the spiritual unification effect of the discovery. As seen as the light of seven days, in the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach"

 

Here is a UB word search Urantia

http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=sevenfold&submit=Submit

Surely it must be obvious from the way I see it and I think its through the viechle of 1Eden and all the other places an expansion in experiential of truth and knowledge with an Eternal link and I think Sevenfold and Seven is the marker throughout time past ,present and future that is associated with these places, the unification marker and the mystery of the Seventh angel.

Here is a connecting parallel found in the Urantia Book

 

This project is part of the Sevenfold scheme of training from the Urantia Book.

This is interesting.

 

Thats is very interesting in Bold a three fold experience, the highest experience sounds like close to translation or very high transcendental experience.

And connecting in the highest levels in personal discovery like my experience in the scriptures and the Urantia Book and the Bible and other books through a unification experience of seeing the discovery of Eden and the other ancient places in The Urantia Book and off course through technology that led to the other locations which again support The Urantia Book beautifully. The wonderfull journey to Eden.

Here is a beautiful piece of Jesus' words in the following

 

How beautiful is that!

In the following must be linked to the threefold experience of God the Sevenfold, maybe these angels are part of the sevenfold scheme Seraphim's? of God and the Sevenfold Action Corp. I think this research is very powerful, its driven and revealed not knowing what turns up, all driven by faith for the benefit of anyone! In love for one another.

I wonder if the threefold experience is linked to these angels. This whole experience sure feels like it. The way you run over these things and connect them.


 

back to the search

In the following sevenfold is presented in the description of the sun. Is that marker of the sevenfold linked to some change of whatever perhaps a judgement of some sort??

 

I believe 1st Eden and our foundations have something to do with the Sevenfold truth. It just seems so obvious. Its like something arising from a place that no one would expect. Like the world biggest secret in the Angelic world now revealed through physical discovery and through the Urantia Book and all the books.

How fantastic is that and linked in the books of religion embedded and therefore creating a bridge to Christianity even to the Catholic church of these places and the Urantia Book in theology and through traditional prayers. Unbelievable!

Back to the search

Here some Ovid

 

That shame in heaven referring probably to the fall of both epochs and a warning to guard yourself. Assent given, does that mean permission, granted. Saturnia, sounds like Santania departed heavenwards in her light chariot perhaps a seraphim heavenward to the Santania 7 mansion worlds. In her light chariot..mmmm I wont mention UFO here.

That was real interesting and again you see the sevenfold star aspect again the marker of sevenfold or even seven in Greek mythology.

 

And here is beautiful piece from Tennyson in regards to the Sevenfold and describes the location of 1Eden to a tee.

 

What a blessing.

How interesting is that, I feel that has all to with 1Eden and the other foundations and under the sea with mention of Sevenfold but in the way of a Calm eyed sea Snake with love in his heart and shared there immortality through there love. To me that speaks of the tree of life aspect and another clue to under the sea and discovery of the throne, The Acropolis Hill and sevenfold connected through the friendly sea snake. Its about the journey of the discovery or something.

Well we have to examine these things and go from within.

back to the search

 

Again the Sevenfold and the judgment connection.

An extract from a Babylonian tablet

 

Book of the dead, the Seven Gods

 

And what about

 

and finally in closing in Jesus words from the Essenes

 

In conclusion after a though examination of the word sevenfold I would like to safely say that it appears to authentic in its use and connection to the discoveries and the great mystery. I would say its a legitimate marker through the angels. Its been a major marker and connection with all the books of religion quite a worthy of study and all these books talk about Sevenfold.

I hope I haven't upset anyone but to me it was good to see if the parallels work in a consistent harmonization and unification within all the books of truth and that points to the connection of time space and eternity.

Here is another clue about the Melchizedek and the end times that really interested me..

 

I wonder if this year could be good year of favor. The seventh month eh! I dont know stretching it a bit.

With all this knowledge coming to pass it would seem like a good year of the Lord favour.

all the best everyone

regards
sevens

"he is to instruct them about all the periods of history for eternity"
Im sure its all to do with the ancient foundations

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Hi Hebron

Thanks for your input I really appreciate it. I'm not exactly sure on how we get from A to B in respect to the temple. I'm not sure if that is 70AD reality brought forward.

All I know that if Im right about these ancient places these are holy temples as well as the tree of Life was present in both Dalamatia and 1Eden. Dilmun was a product of the fallen angles of where the Nodites came from. However after the 2nd attempt to resurrect Babel failed hence the foundations. I dont think Dilmun is the feature of the fall and Babel is the reminder.

However Dalamatia and 1Eden are the true temples of the tree of life of which Gods lived of and Adam and Eve 38,000 years ago.

I personally think that its possible to defile these places with respect to self motive. This is where I feel dangers lie. I mean to say these are major sites that change our history and knowledge.

Think of where these locations are and think of the religious interpretations that are happening. I know in Iran leadership is expecting the 12 Imam any day know. The believe in the 12 Imam like we do Jesus coming back. However in respect to the ancient places we have to knowledge that brought us there combined with advise and guidance in the highest possible sense. (Bible included for sure)

However a person not guided by the discovery truth and influenced by there own information could misinterpret these places and use them as an example of self glorification to a nation and convince them of something for political purposes.

That attitude I believe would defile the ancient temples and would feature an anti Christ feature. Anyway that's a little speculation. But its quite possible!

Just some thoughts.

I'm still thinking about those 7 commandments, discovering them would be perfection to the journey. To me that would be a completion. It begins with the 7 commandments and ends with the 7 commandments.

The Lord is the beginning and end.

Have a think of this

The Gospel of Thomas 18 declares

 

What a massive clue that was. Isn't this what we are talking about, the beginning looking for the end!!!!!

in "the Test of Everything"

 

and

the best
sevens

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Hi Ideo

Yeah cool. I thought it was perfect. Why not! Lets test everything.

I reckon lets test all the books and truth through the discovery and further investigation of these places. Lets test the whole lot of it.

I reckon the things that would pass the test is the discovery and verification of all the places and the discovery of tablets with the 7 commandments or a tablet with one commandment as in the UB.

Thats the bar for the Urantia book with these discoveries. If the test is passed that would mean the information leading us to the places was spot on! Also history, religion and science would under go change pushing back the bar of time and knowledge.

Hey I was thinking just think of courage and faith it would take to conduct a full on test of everything adventure with full production on the run spanning over multiple targets based on the UB, other information including NASA software.

Geee! the stakes would be high, think of the tensions where everything regarding religion and history is in the balance and in the public going through the test of discovery. I reckon its full on!!!

All the best Ideo, I really enjoy your rocks. I love the front end rock ..Wow!

sevens

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:44 pm    Post subject:   Hey Stephen

No problem, with the "the ark of testatment" That was only my speculation. Actually that thought stemmed out of revelation 11. Also thanks for your concern, I appreciate it, thats the reason why I placed the UB on the table so we all can test out the information, understanding this is a journey a faith in all the information.

In light of this I would suggest bible scholars to examine the book for themselves, there is much more to this book which I believe is connected to the new book also its important to examine without bias or a preconcieved position. I feel by connecting the parallels in both books widen and fills the gaps in the end times scenario with uncanny accuracy and precision which can be seen in the bible..


Its like with Revelation:11 to me it almost sounds like it relates to the expedition where directions are given for the direction of the ROV in relation to the artifact that changes things I feel it could be a tablet with writing. Perhaps...maybe!! Its just speculation.

These are almost like directions of where to look. But hey its only specualtion.

 

and in then in the same chapter you have the actual discovery. Whilst it speaks of the temple of God in Heaven, these places are also temples of God on Earth. By the opening of the temple in heaven can also parallel to the 1stEden and to other place discoveries.

 

also remember this regarding the thunder and lightning

 

Anyway there just some literal interpretations I thought that could be attached to the foundations of the ancient places of which God will raise. I believe this is happening today in the multiple ancient submerged places and indicates that we are in possibly a process of change and correction or within the Seventh Mystery, the Sevenfold mystery.

In the fragment Revelations 14 could also be a clue even though time sequence appears out. Im just focusing on thunder, voices and lightning.

 

However if this the truth revealing the nations wont be happy

 

Just some thoughts.

all the best
sevens

Just some thoughts.

all the best
sevens

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:20 pm    Post subject:   Hi Stephen

I'm not sure whether the UB is that erroneous we are testing it right now in a time/space journey of discovery. Its all laid possibly. We have to go on the timeline to see if there is error. Mind you I am using Biblical text as a foundation and using the UB to fill the gaps.

To judge at this point might be to hasty.

Also, how do you know that I'm wrong?

Thats why we are testing to see if there is sustainability. From my personal experience in this on the run timeline scenario Im am pretty convinced that this is a big operation of heaven where heaven is drawing on all embedded truth relevant to the reality. This whole experienced is witnessed openly because its an open reality connected to a mystery designed to test all mankind and his level of faith!

This includes all religion of the world and the refinement of all there books.

How else do you propose that end times should occur? In relation to the foundations. Where is the ancient foundations in your view that God will raise up and build upon?

regards
sevens

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:11 pm    Post subject:   Hi Stephen

 

Hi Stephen

No worries, when I mean the ancient foundations, I mean significant locations that had spiritual and physical significance to heaven and to the origins of mankind and places where the tree of life was housed and the same places where great spiritual epochs began and failed.

Namely the fall of the Sons of God (Nephilim) which happened in Dalamatia and the fall of Adam and Eve in 1stEden. Dilmun is as a result of the fall of the Sons of God where the Nodites sprung from.

Perhaps I may ask you what major secret is Daniel referring to revealed in a dream in the latter day? Is is something to do with a mystery and our past and something that will change all our knowledge and refine and complete our religions?

 

I feel that the seven Gods are connected with the Seventh Angel mystery.

In the following could be glimpse of the event of a significant discovery, same book.


 

Like a beforehand picture of the event in faith of the truth fragments found in the books......What a journey!!

Further in the book you have this a fulfillment beforehand

 

Judgement according to the Book of the Dead and the relationship with the ancient hidden places.

 

remember Job 38

 

and

 

Eden and the other ancient foundations are the seal of the mystery, the Sevenfold mystery. The angels standby like a garment or the seal is like a garment.

Here is a few New Testament verses I think have relevance.

 

The living stone in the following is like the living mystery of mankind! Also when Peter speaks of to whom is coming he is speaking about the future in the latter days. I'm sure! Also is the living stone similar to the bright spark described in the hymns of the Seven pearls in the mystery of Solomon written by St Ephraim of the Eastern Christian branch in around 300AD.
 

In the following sounds like the connection with the ancient places.
 

and Jesus from the Urantia Book

 

and lastly a little reassurance and relation to the old estates of the beginning.

 

Information regarding former estates.

 

regards
sevens

Hey no worries Stephen

Lets see where this thread takes us. I suppose the religious powers said exactly the same when Jesus went before them. If any new information is to be regarding it has to pass the test of time/space (reality) and the the eternal words of the Father in Heaven.

However, I do take what you say on board but I do have differing opinions.

Also simple faith leads to salvation as faith is demonstrated in the doing.

Thanks for checking on things, I appreciate your guidance and do listen. However remember everything that is false will depart and everything that is true will stand and that includes everything all our books. Also in the judgement period and new book will be given and things will be refined and completed. Undeniably.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong where all this information will simply be an interesting archive. But that would have to be demonstrated using all knowledge with objectivity and with no bias, however until then I'm satisfied III keep on this track of exploration and see what we further uncover.

Hey but what I'm right??!!!?!?!%$$#6

all the best

sevens

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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:29 am    Post subject:   Hi Stephen no problem

Lets test it out.

I mean to say there are vast differences in Christianity as well, don't you think? Why should this book be singled out and like I said a refining of our information will take place.

All truth will be tested.

Lets see what happens but I will say its good that you have it in the initial stages. So that at least your aware of thoughts of other Jesus researchers into revelatory religion.

Lets uncover the evidence to prove the UB wrong in its expression with all things equal.

No one can afford to be judgmental on another's truth in these latter days. We cant to presume the truth unless its fully tested and examined with an open mind and passes the testing standards of discovery.

I'm afraid this includes Christianity and every other faith.

I'm sure the Father has his own plan and will do all his pleasure.

Gee I like this one from Job, says it all. Im not talking about the UB but using biblical scriptures.

 

I mean to say what is Job telling us?? To look into the past of our fathers, giving us hint to our origins which part of the Seven mystery.

all the best
sevens

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:58 am    Post subject:   No problem Stephen

However from my observation and personal studies and research in the Urantia Book I dont think the UB is a product of error. I find the scriptures of the Bible confirm much of what the Urantia Book has led to in this research.

I think the bible sums everything that is happening.

found this in

 

Also Ive been aquainted with this whole journey and I feel extremely confortable and peaceful about it and not ruled by fear! I sense a real oneness about the whole research. The reason is because I can see the reality unfolding before our eyes and see it written and reflected in the scriptures.

Do you propose any other way the Father should do this? Also Ive asked a number of questions that you dont answer. It would be good to see some of your answers.

Also what is the mystery in your view and what does it relate to?

"The test of everything"?

regards
sevens

Hi NIKAS

How is it going, yes its the same sevens, no worries. Hey that was a great debate we had on Malta on September 16th. That debate led to multiple discoveries that night, like Dalamatia, Dilmun and Babel. If it wasn't for our debate the ancient places would still unknown.

The research has really increased since then with real precision.

And has really evolved in the Test of everything!

All the best
sevens

Well then Doc

Go to your place of where you think Atlantis is and discover it for us. Instead of talking in an endless loop, just do it! Go find all the matching clues 96%+!

That would be great to see the results. I looked with NASA software and saw some interesting things.

Be my guest

Discovery of Atlantis that is part of whole revealing that goes beyond Atlantis itself and is beyond mans current thinking! Even though there is more multiple targets to explore I am very satisfied with the results. The Urantia Book says a stone wall was still remaining when it submerged and thats what they found. Simple!

You read it and see it.

sevens

Hi Stephen.

I think you're a little paranoid about the UB. Since Ive read and researched which includes examining the whole book I found my understanding has increased in the Bible and other Aphycropha Books. I rely enjoy the Bible as I can understand much of it and see what the prophets are saying.

It is the fruit of world that says all. In my research that I have posted I have upload many biblical scriptures in the Bible and only some from the UB to demonstrate a connection, a pathway.

All things revealed through discovery can be tested by all and everyone can make up there mind up after examination. When you say I'm caught. Really what are talking about, where is your faith to explore truth with all that negative paranoid little talk. What happened at Pentecost, do you deny the power of the Holy Spirit and its diversity?

I don't judge Christianity in my posts but you judge other peoples research on the limits of your understanding and level on taught doctrine. Religion does not stop to grow and expand and doctrine will ever have to be improved and better refined in times future. This I believe is essential for the survival of religion. As people have to relate to religion on aspects of knowledge and there has to be unified connection of all knowledge.

The divisional religions we have today have to work more in commonality of each other rather than the better than thou and I know all attitude. Lets look at the results of religion that believe in exclusivity of doctrine. I think it has led to much pain and is no different than being in judgment of each other today.

Anyway about Dalamatia I have posted various biblical texts of a path that may yield much benefit. However there is not allot in the Bible I was wandering if there where more reflections that can be found.

 I have relied heavily on the bible, actually most of my work is in the Bible. Please don't say I don't use Biblical reference of the journey when I have demonstrated that.

sevens

Hi Stephen

 

When you read the UB in what frame of mind where you in. A suspicious one from the stand point of view that you were right? and everyone else was wrong? Did someone teach you that?

Have you ever considered that the UB is connected to the future book of the future Epoch to provide assistance to mankind in his religions and fill the gaps that need connection. Have you ever considered that this is the work of the Father that you stand in judgment over. I'm not sure what you thoughts are in reading this but lets test this out and see it through. By following this thread we are testing the journey. I think that quite OK Jesus speaks positively of examining things. That's we are doing following the threads of truth.

Consider this thought "The Paths" what is Job talking about? Have you thought that the ancient places is a path or a condition relating to a circumstance in which heaven can actually be involved in, like in a project of our origins who can actually have the ability to demonstrate something like in a discovery but on the highest levels touching all levels of spirituality and revelation. To expand our understanding and knowledge. That's the whole point of this and end times. Not one side against another. But to mutually uplift each religion through commonality in each book and scripture through discovery and adventure in the scriptures beforehand and to the physical manifestation of the unveil an age old mystery found in the physical confirming the discovery through a expedition with multiple targets named as the "The test of everything".

I think the discoveries and conditions are also outlined in revelation, we have a mystery on our hands, its related to our origins, there is potential of error in how its used, the primary guide was a new book and the research also incorporated the Bible, completely embraced including other books of the main religions, the is a testament in writing to be discovered, the ark of his testament, The 7 commandments are involved the first and rediscovered in a end time condition. The first and the last scenario as expressed in Thomas 18. In following it can be demonstrated that we have a real beginning and end scenario. The examination of Dalamatia and discovering the tablets of the 7 commandments would fulfill a literal beginning and End scenario as to word of God Discovering the beginning which is related to an remnant of the first Epoch. The Commandments, how symbolic is that, i ask.

My hunch is that that would be the likely place of the beginning and end as that would be the first place, Dalamatia the first place and if the 7 commandments are discovered that scenario alone is another first and the last word discovery of the 7 commandments. Because we know what they and are recorded in all the books that would be the confirmation.

Really in discussing this im outlining the test standards of the test of everything.

That fits and I see no suspicion in this.

referring to

 

As the apostles experience revelation through the Holy Spirit in today's times we can also benefit from a revelatory experience through the discoveries of these places along with beforehand knowledge through our books, all books open for examination on the places.

I'm not here to judge the bible but to use it and find the truth embedded and to see commonality by following the leads without pride and prejudice. This is the problem we have today and that's why we have error.

Also before you point the finger of deception lets see what uncovers in "the test of everything" Lets see what lays around the corner. Why I share this with you is that you know the progression to minimize error. Like refining my own knowledge. But don't say it all wrong in one judgement .

We will all know in the future whether this is true blue or not. If its a deception we will all know. But it has to be tested and this the only viechle we have today connected with the ancient foundations that can be tested and refine religions of the world.

If I am right in this journey. This is the tree of life knowledge stemming from our books today and can be assessed physically but does need physical examination to determine the origins. The potential that could come from these places could be the literal "Healing of the Nations" for the countries in that area directly connected to the tree of life knowledge that was housed in Dalamatia, Eden and another location in North East.

There could be so much undeniable revelatory content in these discoveries, passing all the standards of the test that it could lay the path of expanded truth and help uplift religion and where it all points to Jesus.

Anyway see what happens, there is still much to do and contemplate. If its authentic a path will open up to test these things. Also consider that there is many pathways in this research to lights up truth fragments in other religions as well. Ive seen many fragments else where and connections. This really affects everything, all knowledge. Its worth exploring this without taking anything away from people.

would you imagine the discovery of 7 commandments in Dalamatia fulfilling a major connection timeline and revealing. I'm not sure whether Babel would have some honour or even potential. However ,I do feel there are tablets there of thanksgiving of the evening mealtime.

The mystery I refer to is the mystery that the Seventh angel calls in mentioned in Revelation.

sevens

quote:

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I wonder what Seven would say. Do you still support his theory?

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1stEden of Cyprus is directly related to the other places submerged in the Persian Gulf. Both Dalamatia and 1stEden/Atlantis and Dalamatia are the location where 2 major Epochs began. The discovery of all these places are part of a very large picture of revealing in my view and no place should be discounted. I will always support Robert Sarmast views because I know he is right and that will be proven in the long run and it will be undeniable.

All these sited needs further testing in order to make a judgment. It all needs further research.

sevens

That's what I say.

sevens

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No worries, Stephen don't worry about that question.

I was fairly concerned about the recent article particularly in light of my concerns of how these could be used for and for what agenda.

I feel the much of the problems we have is interpretation. I feel that Christian and Islam do have commonalities which I discovered about 4 months ago. I did do a study in the Quran as I felt I had to study the book to see if there is commonality. I found quite a bit as I know much of the earlier teachings of the Seventy was absorbed in Islam which explains the Jesus content in them.

However there was some very intriguing things but I feel the problem is how its interpreted and to what use. I tried to share some stuff on a Islam forum but I got banned after a month.

The problem is that you have leadership that is guided by a book of religion who seeks an interpretation that is of use for a political agenda. They are convinced the Mahdi is coming and because of the mystical experiences of the prime person there runs the risk that he thinks he is the Mahdi. But he is not as I can tell in what he says. The information and the spirit of the information seems contradictory to the books we are familiar with.

Currently what I see between the cracks that what is occurring over there appears to be right in the timeline and all the pieces of the end time puzzle appear the be present in the reality.

Just figure if leadership finds out about the locations of the ancient places of his coast, like Dilmun, the power of that alone would be enough to make a man, without the right understanding, guidance and advise given in the books think he is of divine personage or something and become a product of erroneous interpretation of the wrong spirit. I feel many people over there, like here are a miracle seeking generation. If leadership decides to discover this location themselves they could really get carried away with it all considering the spiritual import of the places.

I'm quite happy to post up some Islam parallel verses that had meaning for me in relation to the ancient places but I'm not sure how others would feel about that on this forum. However, I feel that the fragments found could be beneficial in highlighting things that may bring about commonality and that may provide some healing to the rift between the 2 religions. I think the UB provides a good explanation of the origins of the rift.

If we are to get over this religious divide it has to come from within our books with the right interpretation linked with a discovery to make the bridge. Truth. The discoveries may lead to the solution to the problem over there. I think the situation there is spiraling out of control guided by hatred all around. Something like the discoveries could be the balm to the wounds by a refinement of knowledge with a demonstration of our origins. Also consider these places are of the tree of life knowledge as referred to by Enoch. These ancient places could be the healing to the nations with the right attitude.

Somehow I feel there is much pride and religious ego that has to be broken in the scenario. Like man has to be refined in spirit as in the word, its hard to know what may play out but I'm convinced that we are very close to something and there appears to be an acceleration in the realities like a quickening about things.

I was thinking in Revelations when the final mystery was being sounded the Seventh angel blew the trumpet. Is that to say whilst the final mystery was being unraveled a change happened. It makes you think how close we truly are as all the pieces appear to be falling in place considering the reality and the level of our conversation.



All the best
sevens

Well thats true, there are vast differences and quite a different culture.

About those Quran texts they don't exactly refer to biblical prophets.

But I was curious about this in relation to this current timeline.

 

I was wandering if this could be a reflection of this current reality today as we speak looking at all the components.!!

Note: the connection of Garden and the tree of life as seen as the Lote tree enshrouded in light and mystery. Eh! What are we talking about today in discovery and in the word especially in Enoch and the tree of life connections and references to the foundations mentioned also in the bible.

Also this intrigued me in relation to the scenario around these place

 

I feel the treasures of Allah could only be the ancient places or our origins.

All these texts I discovered and recorded but only rediscovered them about 2 weeks ago and upon going over them they seem to have more significants.

the following got me going to

 

It must be an ancient mystery or huge secrets which houses the treasures of Allah. Something like those 7 commandments tablets would be considered a treasure of Allah and the foundations of old are treasures. It would interesting to do search on tablets in the Quran and see if there is some beforehand insight of the discovery of the tablets, maybe perhaps!

I thought to myself regardless of the test of everything what we see with the foundations and the information leading us to them is in essence a test of everything. Isn't it what are we speaking about, a test of everything. Whatever occurs or comes to pass regarding these places is a test of everything regardless how you see it. To me i see perfection in the whole notion and what is before our eyes.

and then this one

 

Well it seems that whatever the test or standard, "it was confirmed". It makes you think are we in the scenario today in the right timeline with all the right conditions appearing before us?

It also appears to me if I'm seeing this right that whatever was confirmed made no effect, it sounds like a business as usual kind of thing.

but then

 

To me that sounds like adjudication in heaven and on earth.

Further down you appear to have more details of the hour I wonder if there are further clues.

 

"It will come to you" Just like that, all things will form a conjunction, all truth will form a oneness. I can see sense in that as one cannot predict the time event. Its impossible to say at this time or that time because its a total faith journey of you, the Father and the books, the books of scripture. Im sure this is the design of the mystery, the construct of faith and reality. Something like that!

Again I see commonality to the scenario in what we have before us and its relation to the places of old and wasted places.

Just know that this post of the Quran is for study and research to see if there are connecting bridges in the current reality view point.

Really speaking in all the research and speaking on a myth and legend level. You have two quests happening.

Like a quest for the Golden Grail in the west

and

knowledge that pertains to Jamshids seven ringed cup of the immortal elixir of life , the east.

Its like 2 mysteries running parallel in conjunction because there are same thing. All this knowledge and the ancient places have the tree of life all over it!

Then this mystery intersects into Greek Mythology and Plato and descendants of the pre Greeks and its parallels.

Its quite all encompassing and its being tested i believe today as we move forward in time.

here is another interesting one

 

I wonder if my scheme is the Sevenfold Scheme as in the UB?

http://www.urantia.org/urantia-book/search Link is to long
keyword search Sevenfold Scheme


 

I feel combine the best of precepts in all the books where you a have very defined reality picture that reflects all the signs and the coming reality as I can see forward through the scriptures of religion.

lastly

 

and

 

and the Biblical link to the ancient of Days

 

the Ancient Days of the Jesus Papers of the Essenes

 

And St Ephraim of the Eastern Christian church in 300AD before Islam.

 

and The Simultudes of Enoch looking for the ancient of Days and there relation to the ancient places

 

sevens

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Fifteen Hymns for the Feast of the Epiphany.

 

and

St Ephraim
The Pearl-Seven Hymns on the Faith
Hymn I.

 

St Ephraim
The Pearl-Seven Hymns on the Faith
Hymn I.
 

St Ephraim
The Pearl-Seven Hymns on the Faith
Hymn I3.

 

St Ephraim
The Pearl-Seven Hymns on the Faith
Hymn I3.

 

St Ephraim
The Pearl-Seven Hymns on the Faith
Hymn 6.

 

St Ephraim
The Pearl-Seven Hymns on the Faith
Hymn 6.

 

sevens

Hi Petra

How does it not agree with the bible? and which specific areas do you think it does disagree?

I suppose in time all this will be proven either way. Its like the weighing of words. If all this research is proven wrong then its wrong which is OK I would admit that, I'm not that pride filled to say I'm wrong.

However, if its proven right. What challenges does that pose for man? and will man be able to handle expansion? And what of the information being espoused today how will that change? Has man got courage? This enquiry will determine many things in my view and many things about Christianity may change because of the results of this enquiry and investigation.

I believe we are in the testing agree or not, this is a test of all our words. Either way this progression has started and will go through the timeline and will not stop until its concluded.

Also the references to St Ephraim is part of the Eastern Christian branch which was guided a person called Abner who was in charge of the 70 disciples in the time of Jesus. Most of the his co workers were ex John the Baptists disciples they were a separate group and were part of the Philadelphian church. The problem arose when Abner and Paul disagreed, with the trinity truth. In light of that division two Christian branches began The Western church following the Pauline gospel and then the Abnerian gospel the eastern branch of the Church.

Overtime the eastern branch got run over and became absorbed in Islam and much of the Jesus info within Islam comes from the Abnerian ideas. This is why you have this division of the trinity ideas between Christianity and Islam. There has always been a remnant of this church but because of survival reasons in recent history, the Eastern branch became absorbed by the Catholic church with there ideas.

Also with the Book of Dead excerpts are remnants from Iknanton who basically began the first monotheistic religion in Egypt and departed from the multiple Gods notion of Egypt. There is connections that stems through to the Salem/Abrahamic truth. Iknanton was influenced by Sinuhe who believed in the Abrahamic covenant and the truth of Salem.

That's why fragments can be identified that have reflections of Jesus in that book and also has end time reflections, my view. I'm not sure if they teach this in Bible college. I wouldn't think so perhaps because of exclusivity and possible secularism.

The reason I post up different excerpts from different books is to demonstrate commonality in the focalization of the ancient places. I believe there is commonality amongst all religions. I think its gross error to say I am right, you are wrong and then judge without testing all the research in the timeline of manifestation.

I would keep an open mind on all things because I feel the Father has his own agenda in all things not what we think or speculate. Mind you, im going through this journey in total faith myself guided by the books but before I admit error Im going to give all the scriptures of all the books a vigorous testing.

III find out for myself the truth of the matter through thorough investigation of everything! regardless where truth lays as long as its truth and nothing but.

Also note that when the end the signs appear, it was also seen that no one will respond including many individuals and leaders in churches and of all religions. Much of the call in the initial stages will be rejected or not even researched by the scholars. Most of the body will ignore it probably through fear and crystallization. Its a total faith journey and you cant expect man to have much faith in this kind of thing, not even most of the religious types. That's why I would not cast aside this type of research because it could be right but it could be wrong???? Either way its a valid enquiry.

Apparently during judgment when the angel calls the mystery finished there is much regret within the churches for not responding to the call. This was seen particularly by the Mormons in there end times prophecy whether you believe them or not.

However this judgment process is not a nice walk in the park or like going to a church meeting on a nice day. This mystery is designed to test all mankind, to test all mans faith including all the churches and all the religions of the world and its very rigorous and tough. The mystery is the journey of faith that will challenge everything, the books, mans faith, his knowledge, his history just everything. Mans deepest thoughts and motives will be searched.

There will many disappointments within the churches where they wont get prizes because of the lack of faith in the judgment process. Nothing bad will happen to the church but it will be corrected in areas where there is weakness.


Well that's I reckon as one scenario out of quite a few presented.

Even the leaders of all faiths are being tested as we speak today! I wouldn't underestimate anything these days. Nothing at all. Anything can happen at anytime particularly since the images of the ancient places have been released with associated research drawing from all things not just one book or one compile of information.

Its like the sorting of the wheat and chaff and mans faith is the test, it is the mystery and all man will go through this tough testing period. No matter who or where they hail from!

I feel the ancient places are the great sign of the times and will be used to test the motives and the faith of man in his relationship with the Father and towards one another where all things are tested and I believe the conditions are right in the timeline of reality and prophecy.

Most of the parables of Jesus was about the end times, I think in his mind he was interested in the final conclusion and gave the best advise for mankind in this time now in the parables. The parables offer the very best advise for the attitude to have in this testing period right now! If there was something I would adhere to that was simple of understand it would be the parables of Jesus.

The Father already knows how miserable and lacking the response will be from his church at the call of the seventh mystery and that's why he may call in the whole mystery at anytime soon in the timeline. When that mystery is called in in its will be too late to back track.

In saying this he will be merciful and companionate to his people even in error, because its in the motivation and he understands that people believe in things that they are told to and many people don't research all of the threads because of doctrinal fear which can limit the faith walk in the Father as Jesus showed in his example and in the words that he expressed displaying no fear and a willingness to look at things and enquire!



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All these scriptures in the this thread and the Babel thread are the fragments I feel have relationship with these ancient sites, indirectly and directly. The scriptures and other information is the basis for "the test of everything" essentially.

Know the main standards of the test in the physical side would the verification of these places by the approved standards of manmade discovery and also the discovery of the tablets.

By posting the following forms a condition of passing the test. I'm testing this UB extract.

We should expect to find the seven commandments in the lost city of Dalamatia as directed in the Urantia Book.

 

and Im testing this following UB excerpt

 

What I was interested in was "The house of Fad" in Dalamatia. I sense from reading the following is that we should expect to find some stone slabs with the law of the 7 commandments inscribed on them. In addition there maybe some clay tablets and perhaps remnants of the "House of Fad" hard to know what lays there until we are there.

Now if we find the "House of Fad" in Dalamatia and stone slabs with the 7 commandments written on them in there alphabet which can be deciphered then we will know the written language of Dalamatia.

That would be clear evidence of proof of the research and presents the Urantia Book as an authentic book and written in the hand of the Father with the help of his spiritual helpers...surely!

What are the odds of finding the 7 commandments in this day and age all seen beforehand and guided by a book alone in the final episode in the saga of mankind.

In regards to the Babel location and Dilmun I would expect something similar in but much later in the timeline like 10,000 years ago when that city built on a peninsula and had walls like Dalamatia for farming and animal husbandry. The city was submerged in the Persian Gulf I reckon about 10,000 years from 600BC It also may have possible timeline links to the Atlantis story in the timeline but we wont go into that although take note of the circular shape and use it as the identifier or marker.

Anyway again this is one scenario out of many. However in this example we have a live situation in discovery and through the scriptures and the best part everyone can hold on there faith.

Don't be surprised if those stone slabs are like the blocks of Baalbek in Lebanon with huge inscriptions that could hopefully rigor the test of 150,000 years of environmental damage. Hopefully the writing can be identified.

Just seems like Indiana Jones stuff but in a real planetary journey through the scriptures of all religions. I mean to say this is tree of life stuff happening here, its the real holy grail, jamshids cup and all knowledge forming a conjunction in a very real way its all part of the refinment of knowledge.

I mean here is a glimpse



http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/overview.jpg

and then the glimpse of Babel which was huge. There could contain massive blocks of stone neatly aligned. Possibly have to go there.



http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel7.jpg

another view of Babel



http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel10.jpg

Consider this the ring you see the Kings holding in the Sumerian tablets is probably representative of the shrine of Dilmun(Babel) Dilmun and has all to do with Enki in the story of Gilgamesh.

Note the ring Enki is holding. Is that the sign of Dilmun. Always remember the myths and legends of Dilmun of the Gods originated from Dalamatia all the reflections of Dilmun regarding the paradise of the Gods and the bright ones in Anduruna where the Gods play are all reflections of Dalamatia adopted by Dilmun. Yet Dilmun was built by the fallen gods and did commingle with there followers and created the Nodite race. I suppose in reflection Dilmun is also a place where the Gods played but in a fallen state. Dilmun is the origins of the Nodites in the land of Nod.



Know look at the circular object on the pedestal and draw the comparison to the circular temple or shrine of Babel Dilmun. This reflection in this Sumerian tablet is a reflection of Dilmun and its shrine but has origins further back to Dalamatia. The original home of the Gods before the fall. Think to the reflections of circular city Atlantis and destructive deluge 10,000 years ago from 600BC as recorded by Plato, could this be description of Atlantis by the Egyptian priests really be the description of the shrine in Dilmun as described by Enki? One in the same circular object?

And note the ring of power Enki is holding, the ring of Dilmun, ensign of the shrine also note the Rod. Is that representative of the isthmus of Dilmun kind of like a map with the circle of Babel in his hand?



here are extracts from Enki who describes Dilmun and does connect with the images

 

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dilmun/babel2.jpg

Here is an aspect of the possible isthmus where Dilmun and the tower of Babel was built upon.



http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel6.jpg


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Consider that, what was written then as i was seeing it seems different and needs further work as this reality has been ever unfolding.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/eden/the_seal.htm

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