The City and Rising of the Sun Study

A group of posts that look at certain aspect legend giving us clues as to the location of Dilmun to the East.  Also Im trying to find value and weight in the journey to the ancient places.

Upon further analysis of the above and this particular verse

 

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"6 And they shall go up and tread under foot the land of His elect ones
And the land of His elect ones shall be before them a threshing-floor and a highway :"




It really sounds like in the moment stuff as those who can go and explore the ancient foundations may very well go to the lost cities and discover the seven commands.

The land of the elect from my prospective is the ancient foundations namely Dalamatia.  Its is the land that the elect is relying on to bring out the ultimate truth of the matter. Its is the land of the elect who look for as the path to the unfolding the final mystery.   It is also the land that the Elect look for in having total faith in the Father that he will being everything to it ultimate conclusion as seen beforehand.

All I can say is that by those who go there to discover its mystery are actually laying a path towards the places are entering  the threshing place where truth with Paradise endorsement happens. The ultimate mystery of mankind for his destiny.

The following Nostradamus quatrain could relate to Enoch extracts.

 

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81
The royal bird over the city of the Sun, (Dalamatia image or it might be about Dilmun )
Seven months in advance it will deliver a nocturnal omen: (7 months in the beforehand experience to the event? or in the Seven month in the relevant year where judgment will occur, the sleeping Omen arises)
The Eastern wall will fall lightning thunder, (A shift will occurs through revealment and knowledge.)
Seven days the enemies directly to the gates.



Below is what I think.


The royal bird over the city of the Sun, The Royal bird I see seems to reflect Dilmun.

 

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/Dalamatia2.jpg

By the way "the city of the Sun" is Equated to Dilmun. Nostradamus must be referring to one of these ancient foundations. Dilmun was the home of the fallen angels that began the race of the Nodites. Understanding that Dilmun imported there myths and legends of the glory of the Gods from Dalamatia. When you read the descriptions of Dilmun, they are in essence really describing Dalamatia by proxy, the first place when the times were good.

 

In the following is a link of the the following descriptions of Dilmun found on Sumerian texts.
http://www.piney.com/BabEpicParad2.html

  • "From the bright covering of thy great heaven may the waters flow,
  • May the city be refreshed with water, may it drink,
  • May Dilmun be refreshed with water, may it drink,
  • May the deep of bitter water flow as a deep of sweet water.
  • May the city be a resting, an abode of the people,
  • May Dilmun be a resting, an abode of the people.
  • Now, O sun-god, shine forth,
  • O sun-god, stand in heaven;
  • Bring open water from the womb of the land!
  • [And] fish, O moon-god, from the water.
  • In the water-course on the face of the land, O earth's sweet water come!
  • That from the bright covering of the great heavens water may flow,
  • Its city be refreshed, may drink,
  • Dilmun be refreshed, may drink,
  • The deep of bitter water flow as a deep of sweet water,
  • The fields and meadows....
  • The city be a house for the multitutes of the land,
  • Dilmun be a house for the multitudes of the land.
  • To shine may the sun-god come forth--let it be so.
  • He who alone is wise (i.e. Enki)
  • To Nintu, mother of the land....

    • Dilmun is one of the Ancient places that Nostradamus is directly referring to.

    http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel/gallery/index.htm

    Seven months in advance it will deliver a nocturnal omen: I see this as the message and the images where revealed beforehand . Perhaps in Seven months time the Omen or message attached to the places comes to light,

    The Eastern wall will fall lightning thunder, Perhaps when the sleeping Omen awakes, major changes happen particularly in the East within there religion. Perhaps all those killing in the name of God through erroneous doctrine see Paradise respond.

    Seven days the enemies directly to the gates.

    Maybe Dalamatia is the snare which captures the enemy its a trap!! A trap that is set to be sprung

    I thought the following Nostradamus quatrain was interesting as well.


     

    Quote:
    C1 Q 56
    The great amount of silver of Diana and Mercury
    The images will be seen in the lake
    (1st Susa the confirmation. This is exactly what we have seen The city in a lake as speculated before finding this quatrain, another beforehand experience only to find it late written about.)
    The sculptor looking for new clay.
    (New truth and enlightenment through discovery of the ancient places pointing to all the books.)
    He and his followers will be soaked in gold.
    (the path of truth, beauty and goodness will be blessed and rewarded.)
     



    Anyway its all interesting

    Amazing that the Sumerian tablets were found in the 1800's which refers to the "The City of the Sun" as being Dilmun and Nostradamus is referring to the same "City of the Sun" and its purpose in the 1500s. Incredible, surely this must provide authenticity of Nostradamus experience?

     

    here is another view of the Elysian fields

    http://www.crystalinks.com/elysium.html
     The tower that the many builded, in mystery looked for One, who coming down would build on earth a tower that lifts up to Heaven.

    Like the mystery in the ancient places which include Babel, 1st Susa and Dalamatia.


    Blessings
    sevens

    Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:06 am    Post subject:

    Consider the following reference to the Elysian fields which Parallels Dilmun as being connected to the Elysian fields.

    In the following is another Nostradamus quatrain.

     

    Quote:Elysian Fields
    97
    The forces of the sea divided into three parts, 3 locations of the ancient foundations.
    The second one will run out of supplies, The 2nd expedition runs out of supplies.
    In despair looking for the Elysian Fields, (Elysian fields is directly related to Dilmun direct but is in metaphor to 1stEden as the places are all the Elysian fields in real truth.)
    The first ones to enter the breach will obtain the victory. "The Breach of Dilmun" Isaiah connection.
    (This above appears to be describing the expeditions to the ancient places (the Elysian fields) Dilmun is directly related to the Elysian fields and the term Elysian fields can be found in Greek mythology as the land of the Gods) The Elysian fields could also mean all the ancient submerged locations relating to the land of the Gods)



    So maybe Dilmun where the Tower of Babel maybe the place where everything unfolds?? Nostradamus and the books seem to pointing to the location!



    http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/dilmun.jpg

     

    Dilmun could be were the Saga may unfold!! Could very well be.

    Here is the Dilmun Link to the Elysian fields in the Wikipedia, Note that the general description is a land of the Gods.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elysian

     

    Quote:
    The Elysian Fields lay on the western margin of the earth, by the encircling stream of Oceanus, and there the mortal relatives of the king of the gods were transported, without tasting death, to enjoy an immortality of bliss (the land of the Gods Dalamatia City in truth but adopted by the Nodites through there own cities.  The Dilmuns, reflections of the tree of life in Dalamatia City The true land of immortality back then.)

     (Odyssey 4.563). Lesser spirits were less fortunate: an eerie passage describes the twittering bat-like ghosts of Penelope's slain suitors, led by Hermes:

    "down the dank

    moldering paths and past the Ocean's streams (could be the the divided channels outside the headwaters of the Persian Gulf when the rivers flowed parallel to the outer coastlines and then (Berbian Shelf) eventually flowed into the sea) they went
    and past the White Rock (the beacon) and the Sun's Western Gates (The heads) and past
    the     Land of Dreams, (reflections of submerged Dalamatia city represented by Dilmun) and soon they reached the fields of asphodel  where the dead, the burnt-out wraiths of mortals make their home"

    (Odyssey 24.5-9, translation by Robert Fagles)

    3rd November insert
    The above seems to be also clues to the location of Dilmun to the East

     The possible location of Dilmun to the East

     

    another image of the area of ancient Persian Gulf

    Hesiod refers to the Isles of the Blessed (makarôn nêsoi) in the Western Ocean (Works and Days). Pindar makes it a single island. Walter     Burkert notes the connection with the motif of far-off Dilmun: "Thus Achilles is transported to the White Isle and becomes the Ruler of the Black Sea, and Diomedes becomes the divine lord of an Adriatic island."[3]

    In Elysium were fields of the pale liliaceous asphodel, and poplars grew. There stood the gates that led to the house of Ais (in Attic dialect "Hades"). The place of Judgement?

     

    Elysium in Literature

    Among the poets to interpret Elysium is Virgil, who describes an encounter there between Aeneas and his father Anchises. Virgil's Elysium knows perpetual spring and shady groves, with its own sun and lit by its own stars solemque suum, sua sidera norunt (Aeneid book vi:541).

    In the Renaissance, the heroic population of the Elysian Fields tended to outshine its formerly dreary pagan reputation; the Elysian Fields borrowed some of the bright allure of paradise.

    In Paris, the Champs-Elysees retain their name of the Elysian Fields, first applied in the late 16th century to a formerly rural outlier beyond the formal parterre gardens behind the royal French palace of the Tuileries.

    After the Renaissance, as popular poets became less influenced by reading Greek and Latin literature, and images of Valhalla entered the popular European imagination, an even cheerier Elysium evolved for some poets. Sometimes it is imagined as a place where heroes have continued their interests from their lives. Others suppose it is a location filled with feasting, sport, song; Joy is the "daughter of Elysium" in Friedrich Schiller's Ode to Joy.

    Dante had a very different idea of the Elysian Fields - he described them as the very upper level of hell, a place of peace that the unbaptized and the non-believers who lived virtuous lives go. It is a place of happiness, but it is closed off from God and thus remains as hell.

    Elysium in Neopaganism

    Many Neopagans today, particularly Hellenic neopagans in the United States, have what most would consider a new-age view of Elysium. Elysium is seen as a multi-layered paradise, or Heaven, to many modern neopagans. Some believe that the outer layer of Elysium is composed of great and beautiful fields, often envisioned in imaginative descriptions as having green glowing blades of grass and bubbling springs of glowing water and wine, often made from the nectar of Ambrosia. Beyond the fields of Elysium, reserved only for the most righteous and virtuous, is the Golden City where spirits exist in a state of constant euphoria. Whether or not such beliefs are based in actual mythology often seems rather unimportant to many neopagans. Most claim that old myths are simply mortal accounts and interpretations of the divine, but the same could be argued about any current beliefs regarding Elysium. Much of what many modern neopagans believe today regarding Elysium seems to be borrowed from popular Christian imagery of Heaven.

     

    more in the wikipedia

    In the Renaissance, the heroic population of the Elysian Fields tended to outshine its formerly dreary pagan reputation; the Elysian Fields borrowed some of the bright allure of paradise. In Paris, the Champs-Élysées retain their name of the Elysian Fields, first applied in the late 16th century to a formerly rural outlier beyond the formal parterre gardens behind the royal French palace of the Tuileries.

    This may explain Nostradamus reflection with the Elysian fields but I do feel its points to the current discussion of Dilmun.

    The Elysian fields are directly connected to Paradise.

    Dilmun, Nostradamus and the current Saga all connect.

    Here is another view

    http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Mythology/Elysium.html

    All essentially says the same thing.

    Here is another view of the Elysian fields before the fall. However it appears to be a description of Dalamatia.

     

    Quote:
    The Latin world perpetuated most of the same themes. Ovid, in the Metamorphoses, points to some of the bad things people did not have to worry about: "Golden was that first age which ... without a law of its own will kept faith and did the right. There was no fear of punishment. No threatening words were to be read on brazen tablets; no suppliant throng gazed fearfully on its judge's face, but without judges lived secure. ... There was no need at all of armed men, for nations, secure from war's alarms, passed the years in gentle ease.


    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1141/is_n44_v31/ai_17634103

    Here is another remarkable extract from the

    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1141/is_n44_v31/ai_17634103/pg_2

    This is a very big confirmation!!!! and confirms what I been saying the whole time

     

    Quote:
    A persistent theory for many centuries suggested that in this Paradise the just awaited the resurrection and final judgment -- which early believers generally thought was closer at hand than we seem to think. One such view was that Paradise (or ex-paradise) was in some remote part of the earth, preserved in its original state but inaccessible except to those possessing a special passport and an angelic guide. This was connected to the wide belief in the early centuries that when Jesus made his promise to the good thief, he was technically reopening the earthly Paradise out of which God had booted Adam and Eve.

     

    and this

     

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    Gham / ghomeh’ (above, in that order), and ghan g | ? (below left), in symbol and metaphor, encompass the sacred garden of eternity, the rich soil and breasts of life, the fluid humus of anticipation, the river of sustenance, sustainment, and nurture.
    Ghan (to the left) represents the fertile fields of the Crown of Creation, the eternal fields of the heavens, the Elysian fields of those blessed by LOVE: living blossoms opening beneath the ETERNAL SUN of ’ELOHIM* ’AH_VAH, the ONE TRUE GOD of LOVE



    from this

    http://www.messiah.org/messiah-torah-3.htm

    Here is some Sumerian and Persian Tablets with familiar ensigns to seen in the images of Dalamatia and possibly Dilmun.
     


    Aquatic - Enki - Sumer - Zoroaster above Tree of Life - Persia
    The above tablet seems to have a message that I feel reveals the purpose of the Gods and this place as depicted.  I notice the tree of life where the fruits are gathered for the Gods, it must be Dalamatia, the first place, I notice that a Ostrich is snared by a solider, perhaps adjudication, I also notice another solider with a sword.  The place must be submerged as depicted by the Fish priests, the angels preserving the place for the final message. 

    The above seal could be a prophecy in the making, the message might come from Iran as indicated by the ancient Seal where everything is dealt with in final for the next thousand years!

    PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:06 am    Post subject:   


    Here is the meaning of the Persian faravahar which is the Seal in the above tablet, its not to far from what I have found previously about the Persian connection to the ancient places which is connected to the "Ahura Mazda" the secondary midwayers mentioned in the Urantia Book who are directly related to the progeny of the eldest Son of Adam, here is the vestiges of the Adamson civilisation in North Eastern Iran.

    http://www.dalamatiacity.com/Adamsons/index.html

     

    Quote:
    Scholars disagree about just what the symbolism of the Persian faravahar indicates. Is it a symbolic image of Ahura Mazda, the Zoroastrian name for the One God, the "Wise Lord?" If it represented Assur for the Assyrians, is it Ahura Mazda for the Persians? Many scholarly writings on the image still identify it as such. But in the Zoroastrian faith, Ahura Mazda is abstract and transcendent. God has no image and so cannot be represented in any form.



    taken from here

    http://www.crystalinks.com/faravahar.html



    Ea stands in his watery home the Apsu.
    Yes, ready for the final judgment of man and angels, Ea or better still Jesus will arise with the message from the past.

    All seems to be the same story.

    Either Dalamatia or Dilmun.

    another image from Egypt


    Z as Thoth holding - XX Chromosomes - Full Circle - Return to the Feminine

    The image above could be a link to the mystery to the Great Pyramid

    and a description of the bird headed Gods, the first ones in Dalamatia who gave knowledge to man.


     

    images taken from this link

    http://www.crystalinks.com/dilmun.html

     

    Here is a link to the History of the Faravahar, I think it has connection to current mystery and originates through Dilmun.

    http://www.crystalinks.com/faravahar.html

    Extract

    History of the Faravahar

    The history of the Faravahar design begins in ancient Egypt, with a stylized bird pattern which is known as the spread-eagle.

    A spread-eagle as it is called in heraldry - features a flying bird shown from below, with its wings, tail, and legs outstretched.

    Such designs have been used in cultures throughout history, including American, where the seal of the U.S. Government features a spread-eagle.

    An Egyptian spread-eagledevice is featured in the treasure of Tut-ankh-amoun which has a bird's body with a human head, and in which hieroglyphic symbols are held in the outstretched talons. These features will later re- appear, transformed, in the Faravahar.

    Closer still to the Faravahar are Egyptian designs which feature a sun-disc with wings. This winged sun-disc represents Horus, the hawk-god believed by the ancient Egyptians to be incarnate in Pharaoh, the god-king.

    The winged disc was from the beginning a symbol of divine kingship, or the divine favor upon a king.

    Very early on (second millennium B.C.) this design had migrated from Egypt to the ancient Near East. It appears above the carved figure of a Hittite king, (The Hittites flourished from about 1400-1200 B.C.) symbolizing a god's favor in the spread-eagle form.

    In Syria it is shown on a seal from the Mitanni civilization (c.1450-1360 BC).

    The proto-Faravahar symbol may also have a native Mesopotamian origin, which was combined with the Egyptian symbol in ancient Assyria.

    Assyrian art also associates the winged disc with divinity and divine protection of the king and people.

    It appears both with and without a human figure.

    Without the human figure, it is a symbol of the sun-god Shamash, but with the human figure, it is the symbol of the Assyrian national god Assur. This appears on many carvings and seals. The Assyrian versions of the winged disc sometimes have the kingly figure inside the disc, and others have him arising from within the disc in a design that is very close to the Faravahar as it appears in Persian art. The graphic evolution from the spread-eagle is evident in the stylized Assyrian version of the design, where the bird's legs are abstracted into wavy streamers on either side of the disc which end either in claws or in scrolls, as they do in the Persian design.

    By the time of the Achaemenid kings (dynasty flourished from about 600 B.C. to 330 B.C.), then, the design that would become the Faravahar had already been in use for at least 1000 years, from Egypt to Syria and then to Assyria. The early Achaemenids conquered Mesopotamian lands in the 6th century B.C., and re-patriated all the peoples subject to Babylonian rule, the Jews among them. These same Achaemenids also adopted Assyrian and Babylonian motifs for their monumental art, including the winged disc.

    The Persian Faravahar is carved on the rock-cut tombs of the Achaemenid kings at Bisetoon in Iran, and varies from one carving to the other. In one it is very much like the Assyrian version, with squared-off wavy wings. But it is in the carvings of Persepolis, center of the Achaemenid dynasty, that the Faravahar reaches its most elaborate and finely wrought perfection. The Faravahar of Persepolis is the one that has been adopted by Zoroastrians as their symbol.

    More can be found here

    http://www.crystalinks.com/faravahar.html

    and

    The revelation of Zarathushtra from the beginning has been associated with light. The Gathas are filled with light and sun imagery; light is not only physical, but metaphysical, the prime symbol for Goodness and God. Thus the khvarenah in Zoroastrian teaching, though specified to the glory of the King, also has a much more universal meaning.

    According to Zoroastrian scholar Dr. Farhang Mehr, the khvarenah is granted to those human beings who are great benefactors of the world: good kings and rulers, prophets like Zarathushtra, or heroes. In the Gathas, these benefactors are called saoshyant, an Avestan word which means "saviour."

    In later Zoroastrianism the term saoshyant acquires a messianic, mythical meaning, and this Saoshyant also enjoys the blessing of the khvarenah. Thus khvarenah also has the meaning of God's Grace. But is this grace only for the Great Ones of the World, or do we lesser folk have - khvarenah, too? As Mehr has written, the khvarenah is enfolded within everyone. With those who are great in virtue, it is more radiant and powerful. Our work on this Earth is to grow in goodness and thus show forth our own God-given khvarenah, which is the light of our excellence. This, then, is what the Winged Disc signifies both for the ancients and for us: the shining khvarenah, or "farr."

    and

    Zoroaster Prophecy - Saoshyant

    Saoshyant refers to one who will "make existence brilliant" in the Zoroastrian religion. Literally, the term means "one who brings benefit."

    In common usage, this term refers to a future savior or Messiah-figure, who will spread divine truth and lead humanity in the final battle against the forces of evil.

    In Zoroaster's own writings, the Gathas, the term is used to refer to his own prophetic mission and to the community of his followers, who 'bring benefit' to humanity.

    In later Zoroastrian doctrine it is envisaged that there will be three future Saoshyants, who will restore order when the world has fallen into chaos. These will be born of virgins from the miraculously preserved seed of the prophet Zoroaster himself.

    The last Saoshyant will bring about the final judgement of humanity and will secure the harmony of the world.

    Since He is (the One) to be chosen by the world therefore the judgment emanating from truth itself (to be passed) on the deeds of good thought of the world, as well as the power, is committed to Mazda Ahura whom (people) assign as a shepherd to the poor." --Yasna 27:13, the Ahuna Vairya prayer

    In some cases, this term is used as a plural, saoshyans, to refer to religious leaders.

    In Iran and India Zoroastrians and others, still use this name for males.

    It is speculated that this Zoroastrian belief in a Saoshyant influenced the Jewish belief in a Messiah.

    http://www.crystalinks.com/zsaoshyant.html

     

    Here are some scenarios of the end times in different cultures that we are in.

    http://www.crystalinks.com/eschatology.html

     

    Sevens

    More can be found in this thread in this end time forum

    Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods

    http://www.thendtimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=950&start=120

    You might have to join.

     

    More on the go information can found here

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    Quote:

    Rev 7:217

    2 Then I saw another angel ascend from     the rising of the sun, with the seal of the living God, and he called with a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm earth and sea,
    3 saying, "Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God upon their foreheads."
    4 And I heard the number of the sealed, a hundred and forty four thousand sealed, out of every tribe of the sons of Israel,



    Could the above be directly connected with this Journey and discovery of the Ancient places in the connection of "another angel ascend from the rising of the sun" particularly the term "rising of the sun" Could this term be linked to the references to Dilmun in its relation to "the rising of the sun". Could this journey and what is uncovered as in the cities of the rising sun, the seal, and its through the test of faith, that the elect of 144,000 as mentioned in the Revelations that are selected and caught up with God ready for the new world.

    References "to the rising sun" seal which I think is the seventh mystery and the submerged cities.

    Another reference

     

    Quote:

    "Isaiah 42 25 I have raised up one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the potter treadeth clay."



    another from Isaiah

     

    Quote:

    6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord, and there is none else



    Here is another from an unexpected source

     

    Quote:

    Abu Hurairah said,
    "The Prophet (sal-Allaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) said, 'There are three
    things which, when they appear, no good will it do a soul to believe in
    them then, if it believed not before nor earned righteousness through its
    Faith. They are: The Dajjaal, the Beast, and the rising of the sun from the
    west.'



    that was interesting

    Malachi 1 11 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the Lord of hosts

    nostradamus

     

    Quote:

    The royal bird over the city of the Sun, (Dalamatia image) insert this could refer to Dilmun of the East
    Seven months in advance it will deliver a nocturnal omen:



    The Sumerians about Dilmun

    Dilmun, sometimes described as "the place where the sun rises" and "the Land of the Living" is the scene of a Sumerian creation myth and the place where the deified Sumerian hero of the flood, Ziusudra (Utnapishtim), was taken by the gods to live for ever.

    Note the connection Sumerian Noah, Babel was built in Dilmun. The seal is connected to these cities that are arising in truth.

    sevens

    Here is a link to the ongoing forum section that contain these relevant posts in the actual timeline and context of discovery in the journey to the ancient places.

    and now this discovery


    Avatar ImageIcon 1     posted 11-02-2007 08:47 PM

    Here is thumb of some thoughts of Dilmun to the east near the headwaters of the Persian Gulf.

    Myth unlocking more of the truth.

    -

    Clues to Dilmun to the East of Dalamatia built by the Nodites

    The rising of the sun

    an extract

    quote:


    This submerged valley/plain/edinu would be the lost world of the Mesopotamian Dream-Time, the source of their later legends about the beginning of things.

    For those espousing Mesopotamian roots for Genesis fantasies, it could also be the land of Eden, in an eastern part of which the Garden was planted.

    Dilmun at the place where the sun rises, said to be located on a river bank at the Place of Crossing

    http://oi.uchicago.edu/research/library/ane/digest/2001/v2001.n203


    Sevens

    Remember these extracts from the Urantia Book.

    line 69: After the submergence of Dalamatia the Nodites moved north and east, presently founding the new city of Dilmun as their racial and cultural headquarters.

    and this

    The central group remained in the immediate vicinity of their original home near the headwaters of the Persian Gulf

    Here are further studies into the 2 Dilmuns

    More thoughts on Dilmun to the East

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