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Also there is a proposal for a 3rd expedition to 1st Eden that you might be interested in!!

Discovery of Atlantis
Discovery of Atlantis 3rd expedition proposal


THE HOUR HAS COME
THE TIME HAS ARRIVED

The declaration in Spirit of the 3rd expedition to 1st Eden,
"the Valley of the Shadow of Death"
Psalm 23

There is no better time than now.


11th March 2011

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Sevens8 I saw an interesting story on the news about Salman Ahmed and his music against extreme terrorism. Islam has to repair there own vine, like we see in the efforts of individuals. There is a huge positive path for Islam available in the Urantia Book.

Matthew 12 in King James Version (English Bible).

Sevens8 This I believe is about Jesus but can have a dual application in the end of the Age of Ignorance.17 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, >>>>18 Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: >>>I will put my spirit upon him,<<< and >>he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.<< 19 He shall not strive, nor cry; neither shall any man hear his voice in the streets. >>>20 A bruised reed shall he not break, and >>>smoking >flax< shall he not quench,<<< till he send forth judgment unto victory.<<< 21 And in his name shall the Gentiles trust.<<<
These verses have always fascinated me.

 

Matthew 12 in King James Version (English Bible).

Sevens8 Matthew25
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

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Sevens8 Here is an Author believes the Aliens will appear in our skies in principle cities on October 13th 2010. Fair enough lets see what happens considering know one knows the time nor the hour.

Watch Ghost32's video about Oct 13th Update Demonic Close Encounters Symbolism documentary on Disclose.tv
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    • Seven8 Yeah man lets check it out.

      Doesn't worry me but I do feel a little sceptical as this is the 4th end time, time prediction where everything seems normal.
      October 4 at 4:44pm ·

       

      Seven8 As soon as he said ascended masters and channelling I lost interest.
      October 4 at 4:45pm ·

       

      Seven8 then again I don't agree with her either I feel she has limited information in a narrow view point.
      October 4 at 4:51pm ·

       

      Diane Denison Hahaha another conveyor of BS. Oct 13th this guy better pray it happens or he won't be making $$$ anymore
      October 4 at 4:54pm

       

      Seven8 The thing is Satan is in Jail and she does not know extra knowledge like the Urantia revelation coming from a point of view of negativity. More boring conspiracy.

      III have to check out Mathew 24
      October 4 at 5:01pm ·

       

      Seven8 see what happens eh!
      October 4 at 5:02pm

       

      Seven8
      Here the Matthew chapter she is referring to but I see no references to UFOs in the sky over cities.

      The Destruction of the Temple and Signs before the End
      24And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

      4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

      7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. 9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 1>>>>1 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.<<<<

      >>>>>14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.<<<<<

      The End means the Revealing, the End of the Age of Ignorance!.

      http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Mathew+24&ver=kjv

      I see false prophets and other cold things but the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven that Jesus was speaking about 2000 years ago will be preached at the End, Like the expanded revelation of the Urantia Book and blending with other books to bring out the truth relevant not to mention revealing of the the Cities of the Tree of Life and its demonstration.

      Nothing about UFOs, btw how does she know Aliens are bad being part of the Kingdom of Heaven?
      ?
      October 4 at 5:16pm ·

       

      Diane Denison I loved the verses out of Matthews. Thanks for posting this
      October 4 at 5:18pm ·

       

      Seven8 For sure, I loved this one

      >>>>>14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.<<<<<
      October 4 at 5:18pm

       

      Seven8 The End must be a major revealing.
      October 4 at 5:19pm

       

      Seven8
      Checkout this series of verses Diane

      20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the Sabbath day:

      >>>>21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since >the beginning of the world< to this time, no, nor ever shall be.<<<<

      22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. 23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
      >>>24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.<<<<

      25 Behold, I have told you before. 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

      >>>27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.<<<

      http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Mathew+24&ver=kj
      v
      October 4 at 5:22pm

       

      Diane Denison Christ reveals to us what is going to happen. We shouldn't be shock or afraid.. Sad yes it hurts to watch people suffer.
      October 4 at 5:23pm

       

      Diane Denison See that word Sabbath day It always bothers me the lack of honour for Sabbath day.
      October 4 at 5:26pm

       

      Seven8
      ‎>>>>42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.<<<<<

      43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

      >>>44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.<<<<

      In my the focus on the Tree of life in 1st Eden in a gathering together about the place where the Tree of Life once stood could be catalyst for the following, in response but that is something only the Father knows.

      ">>>27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.<<<"

      What better catalyst than the discovery of the beginning of all world spiritual heritage and the place of the tree of Life preserved one mile under the ocean
      .
      October 4 at 5:27pm

       

      Seven8 A 3rd to 1st Eden is a series of 4 expeditions and a final massive presentation of Jesus' life is no garauntee of Jesus coming either.
      October 4 at 5:30pm

       

      Diane Denison Well, he said, He will.. If he does not his army of warriors will.
      October 4 at 5:30pm ·

       

      Rene Ertzinger
      There's no need waiting for Christ to appear!
      His level of being is such - that he is always present throughout his realm of Nebadon. It's an issue of us mortals recognizing that - and connecting with his circuits and also the circuits of the Divine Minister
      OH - and then - spirituality in general is about connecting with many many more circuits :
      )
      October 4 at 5:31pm

       

      Rene Ertzinger Aliens will appear?
      Not a day goes by on Urantia without many Celestials being here and student visitors coming to study this planet.
      October 4 at 5:32pm

       

      Seven8
      Thats sounds interesting Rene

      "connecting with his circuits and also the circuits of the Divine Minister" could a trip to 1st Eden following thoughts and ideas be a manifestation of the divine Minister and Jesus connecting to there circuits in the spiritual experience in the outset leading one all the way inset, the accomplishment of the goal??
      October 4 at 5:34pm

       

      Seven8 The Urantia Mentions that if Jesus comes again you will see him in the spirit?
      October 4 at 5:35pm

       

      Seven8 In connection of his circuit?
      October 4 at 5:35pm

       

      Rene Ertzinger
      At the time he said that about seeing him in the spirit that could have technically referred to seeing him in the Morontia estate as he made his appearance after being resurrected.
      Yes - one would also like to believe that he will personally return to come visit us here on Urantia BUT - I don't think he really has a need to be doing this anytime soon more so  because I would guess his abilities allow him to be super-conscious of anything he wishes to tune-into.
      October 4 at 5:40pm ·

       

      Seven8 Yeah I know but would be nice to see my fellow friend and brother Sovereign in this journey to 1stEden to the Root of the Tree of Life in the Gathering together.
      October 4 at 5:42pm

       

      Seven8 Like when Jesus gathered about the camp fire on the shores of Galilee with his disciples eating fish in his appearences. The friends gathering together with Jesus fellow Friend and Brother Sovereign.
      October 4 at 5:45pm

       

      Rene Ertzinger It would be neat but perhaps maybe "you should seek him out on Salvington - at his throne - in the threefold mansion of light".
      October 4 at 5:45pm

       

      Seven8 Im not sure if have that circuitry hahaha. aah its ok I'm happy with the connection I have.
      October 4 at 5:47pm

       

      Rene Ertzinger
      I once had a very neat vision of being before this throne and the entire floor being made of crystal and in this crystal  one can see anything one wishes to see within all of Nebadon.
      That at least is my interpretation of what I witnessed in this particular vision. Given is difficult to find words to place upon these unique types of experiences.
      October 4 at 5:48pm

       

      Seven8 Its all so personal and individual.
      October 4 at 5:49pm

       

      Seven8 Like I have visions of a gathering around the root of the Tree of Life Like the Disciples and Jesus gathered around the camp fire on the shores of Galilee.
      October 4 at 5:50pm

       

      Rene Ertzinger Yes it is these type of experiences have much to do with an individual receiving personalized spiritual learning experiences.
      October 4 at 5:50pm ·

       

      Seven8 But I think it can manifest reality to. The visions of one, in the beginning feeling and seeing the outcome and then actualising it, then actualisation.
      October 4 at 5:53pm

       

      Rene Ertzinger
      If that is a vision that you actually saw and experienced then I would value it as such.
      My personal vision that I shared with you here that was an extremely visual experience of actually being transported to that place. The thought-adjusted projecting to this place -- and me being allowed to experience this episode. At least - that's how I understand what I experienced.
      October 4 at 5:54pm ·

       

      Seven8 That is amazing Rene that would been an incredible experience.
      October 4 at 5:55pm

       

      Rene Ertzinger
      I follow what you say Dennis.
      What is always of value -- is spending time (much much time) - in communion with Christ.
      Yes Dennis - this was to me personally an incredible experience -- which was a result of communion with Christ.
      I have many hundreds of such amazing personalized experiences that go hand-in-hand with the UB.
      The motto of "seek and you shall find" -- holds quite true in regards to spiritual pursuits
      .
      October 4 at 5:59pm ·

       

      Seven8 How true Rene "seek and you shall find"
      October 4 at 6:06pm

       

      Rene Ertzinger That "floor of crystal I was before the throne" is I guess sort of like a version of the "Sea of Glass" on Jerusem which is also used in the technique of visualizing various universal or local broadcasts.
      October 4 at 6:09pm

       

      Linda Hodge
      ‎170.4.5 Although Jesus referred one phase of the kingdom to the future and did, on numerous occasions, intimate that such an event might appear as a part of a world crisis; and though he did likewise most certainly, on several occasions, definitely promise sometime to return to Urantia, it should be recorded that he never positively linked these two ideas together. He promised a new revelation of the kingdom on earth and at some future time; he also promised sometime to come back to this world in person; but he did not say that these two events were synonymous. From all we know these promises may, or may not, refer to the same event.

      176.4.4 Many of us are inclined to believe that Jesus will return to Urantia many times during the ages to come. We do not have his specific promise to make these plural visits, but it seems most probable that he who carries among his universe titles that of Planetary Prince of Urantia will many times visit the world whose conquest conferred such a unique title upon him
      .
      October 4 at 6:10pm

       

      Rene Ertzinger
      Yes Linda those are good sections from the UB in the subject matter of a possible re-appearance
      Given that Urantia is the sentimental shrine of Nebadon I would recon our planet receives special attention.
      It's probably very far off into the future of Urantia but I guess he would come here for a visit -- when our planet officially enters the era of Light & Life when the Morontia Temple comes down from heaven to here on Earth.
      BUT hey! Christ is very very busy attending to 6.9 million inhabited spheres let alone all the Celestials needing time with him for directions.. and the zillions of things we can even imagine that preoccupies him
      .
      October 4 at 6:16pm ·

       

      Seven8 It could depend on how Jesus maybe not in a world crisis but what about a discovery eh! hehe.

      That could be different as that would have real purpose and effect.
      October 4 at 6:17pm

       

      Rene Ertzinger As mentioned Dennis - he's very very busy doing the Father's will attending to his 6.9 million inhabited planets do the math - of just how so many people/beings and celestials there would be in Nebadon that are of concern to Michael and the Divine Minister.
      October 4 at 6:19pm ·

       

      Linda Hodge I don't think Christ Michael is short on time. And we are a favourite spot of his. He'll be back, surer than The Terminator. Sooner the better. We need a wake up call. ;-)
      October 4 at 6:19pm

       

      Seven8 Just the simple request from the heart and soul in friendship with purpose, in the right conditions Jesus may respond to personally, in the spirit and might entail physical.
      October 4 at 6:19pm

       

      Seven8 Right on!
      October 4 at 6:20pm

       

      Rene Ertzinger I would agree! He is available!
      October 4 at 6:20pm

       

      Linda Hodge Besides, I've been nagging him for a while now!
      October 4 at 6:21pm ·

       

      Linda Hodge So nice to be able to talk to people who have read the Urantia book. What a treat guys.
      October 4 at 6:22pm

       

      Rene Ertzinger You're not alone about nagging him laughing about this
      I'm sure there's more than a few trillion prayers nagging at him.
      October 4 at 6:22pm

       

      Seven8 that was funny, well all I know that if he go to 1stEden Jesus has the Captain seat so to speak. That I have in my vision from some ago as I see in my mind. Like in the Catholic image of Jesus helping the man steer the boat pointing the way and the Captain steering by faith.
      October 4 at 6:24pm

       

      Rene Ertzinger Nice to meet you Linda!
      Wishing you Light & Life eternal.
      October 4 at 6:24pm ·

       

      Linda Hodge Lucky he's Omnipotent, Omnipresent and generally good natured then.
      October 4 at 6:25pm

       

      Rene Ertzinger Christ Michael is also here on the planet via those mortals that are doing his work of ministry.
      October 4 at 6:25pm

       

      Linda Hodge Thanks Rene, likewise.
      October 4 at 6:26pm

       

      Rene Ertzinger and in that regard ask what you can do for Christ - to help him here on Earth - and he shall be with you.
      October 4 at 6:26pm

       

      Seven8 all true
      October 4 at 6:26pm

       

      Seven8 Gathered around the camp fire with Jesus together with all his friends.
      October 4 at 6:28pm

       

      Rene Ertzinger
      ‎>>Lucky he's Omnipotent, Omnipresent
      I was once trying to understand more deeply as to how old Christ Michael might possibly be. he started Nebadon 450 billion years ago had a significant paradise education career before that aside from all the benefits of attributes inherent through direct creation by God the Father & Son
      Is possibly 500-700 billion or perhaps even a trillion years old and experienced???

      Jeez I might be more like an angel within a few millions of years - gri
      n
      October 4 at 6:33pm

       

      Linda Hodge Well, there's a question to ask Him when you meet. :-)
      October 4 at 6:38pm

       

      Rene Ertzinger Bet he has some smart answer to that question about his age
      In Earth-years, Nebadon-time and then probably stuff about he hails from Eternity - and absonite realms
      October 4 at 6:40pm

       

      Linda Hodge Older than Methuselah!
      October 4 at 6:43pm

       

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Sevens8 I hope this never happens but I feel there is motive behind all actions like in Tibet. Its all about increased influence and power over the other guy at the end of the day for self purpose.

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Sevens8

How bible prophecy codes explain the many heavenly signs in 2004 and s on St. Malachy's prophecy about popes.

Sevens8 Very Interesting.

Watch Fatrock386's video about Qur'an satan Islam devil documentary on Disclose.tv

Sevens8 Could this stone be the Seven commands being lifted without Human Hands?? where the truth changes things that will be enduring!

Describing the time represented by the feet of iron mixed with clay, Daniel said to Nebuchadnezzar: >>>>"While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands.<L<<< It struck th
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statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them The rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth" (verses 34-35, New International Version, emphasis added throughout unless otherwise noted).

What does this mean?
Daniel went on to explain this symbolism: "In the time of those kings [the leaders of the mixture of people represented by the iron and clay], the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands"

It could mean an ROV lifting something from the depth without hands from the Sevenfold cities and verifying the truth. Maybe the root of the Tree of Life from 1st Eden.

(verses 44-45, NIV).This "kingdom that will never be destroyed," we know from many other prophecies, is the Kingdom of God, which Jesus Christ will establish on earth at His return. This is confirmed by the triumphant announcement that accompanies His return as recorded in Revelation 11:15: "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign for ever and ever" (NIV).

praise the Lord.

 

Where is the ever-closer, ever-more-powerful union of Europe heading? Do history and Bible prophecy help us understand where these trends are leading?

Sevens8 Here is an interesting series of of a flotilla in 5th century that made it the Ohio America.

 documentary on Disclose.tv

Sevens8 Someone mentioned serra da lousã mountains I thought I would look into when I contemplated the thought, I remembered a dream I had about being in place like Portugal or Spain in an old village ringed by mountains where I met 2 girls in an open Restaurant, like in a old village in a very nice climate. Then suddenly I was diving in water submerged like stepping of a thin ladder.

The ring of mountains was like this image but there were many tracks through the range. I remember thinking in the dream viewing the range in my dream, "Gee its like being in Atlantis" the ringed range had many tracks around the old village. I just know it was in Portugal or Spain or in that area by the climate and characteristics of the climate and the culture of the village and the Dark headed girls who seemed very advanced then suddenly water.

I thought I would look into. There might be a clue or another gate you just never know.

http://www.jardimdatia.com/sitebuilder/images/viewfrom_house_640x480-226x302.jpg

 

Sevens8 Another interesting article about Volcanoes from 40,000 years ago suspected of depopulation of the Neanderthals.

This around the time of Adam and Eve who arrived 38,000 years ago.


Fragment

Evidence for the catastrophe comes from Mezmaiskaya cave in the Caucasus Mountains of southern Russia, a site rich in Neanderthal bones and artifacts. >>>>Recent excavations of the cave revealed two distinct layers of volcanic ash that coincide with large-scale volcanic events that occurred around >>40,000 years ago,<< the researchers say.<<<<< Geological layers containing the ashes also hold evidence of an abrupt and potentially devastating climate change. Sediment samples from the two layers reveal greatly reduced pollen concentrations compared to surrounding layers. That’s an indication of a dramatic shift to a cooler and dryer climate, the researchers say. Further, >>the second of the two eruptions seems to mark the end of Neanderthal presence at Mezmaiskaya.<<
Numerous Neanderthal bones, stone tools, and the bones of prey animals have been found in the geological layers below the second ash deposit, but none are found above it.

 

New research suggests that climate change following massive volcanic eruptions drove Neanderthals to extinction and cleared the way for modern humans to thrive in Europe and Asia.

Sevens8 It happened in March 2009 but I am fascinated with the discovery in the timeline.

uk.reuters.com
CAIRO (Reuters) - A team of Egyptian and European archaeologists have discovered two statues of King Amenhotep III, who ruled Egypt roughly 3,400 years ago, the Supreme Council for Antiquities said Thursday. Chief

Sevens8 ‎21 Volcanoes Across Country Ready to Erupt
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Bandung. Twenty-one volcanoes across Indonesia could erupt at any time, leading to natural disasters, officials have warned.

 

  • Sevens8 Like birth pangs and restlessness, like the travail of new birth and renewal.
    Sunday at 8:49am

     

    Diane Denison ‎21 that is a lot all in one area. WOW. Thanks for posting this, Dennis
    Monday at 6:02pm

     

Sevens8 How about this news article, another interesting Event that is perceived to be other worldly and unusual where many people saw this.

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Sevens8 here is another article on the lazer light spotted. Much the same thing as other article but I noted that this system lays in the Constellation of Libra or close to it.

I thought I would find out more information on Libra Zodiac to see if I could find anything that maybe relevant.

Here is the fragment in the article i
w
as curious about.

The findings come from 11 years of observations at the W. M. Keck Observatory in Hawaii. The planet orbits a small red star called Gliese 581(14, 77 sevens) in the >>constellation of Libra.<< The planet, named Glieseg, is >118<,000,000,000,000 miles away (me.118, 11 or 18(666) - so far away that light from its start takes 20 years to reach the Earth.

It takes just >37< days to orbit its sun which means its seasons last for just a few days. One side of the planet always faces its star and basks in perpetual daylight, while the other is in perpetual darkness.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1316538/Gliese-581g-mystery-Scientist-spotted-mysterious-pulse-light-direction-newEarth-planet-year.html#ixzz11EZbfams

I thought I would look into Libra
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>>>Libra (♎) is the seventh astrological sign in the Zodiac, originating from the constellation of Libra.<<< In western astrology, this sign is no longer aligned with the constellation as a result of the precession of the equinoxes. In astrology, Libra is considered a "masculine", positive (extrovert) sign. It is also considered an air sign and is one of four cardinal signs.[2] >>>>>Libra is ruled by the planet >Venus (which also rules Taurus).<> Being >>>the seventh sign<<< of the zodiac, Libra has been associated with the astrological >seventh house.<<<<<

Individuals born when the Sun was in this sign are considered Libra individuals.

Libras are commonly referred to as fiesty and fiery individuals. Under the tropical zodiac, the Sun enters Libra on the moment of autumnal equinox by definition on >>>September 23, leaving it on October 22.<<< Under the sidereal zodiac, it is currently there roughly around October 19 and November 16. Libra, also known as >>>>"The Scales" or "Balance"<<<<<<, is the only symbol of the zodiac that is represented by >>an inanimate object,<< rather than an animal or human.

and

Mythology
See also: Libra (constellation) Mythology In Greek mythology, Libra is considered to depict >>the scales held by Astraea<< (identified as Virgo), >>>the goddess of justice<<<


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libra_(astrology)

 

A member of the Australian chapter of SETI had been sweeping the skies when he discovered a 'suspicious' signal from an area of the galaxy that holds Gliese 581g.
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    • Seven8 So a light emanates out of a System in Libra, out of the Seventh House and is related to Justice which in this journey could mean judgement or Adjudging of the Age of Ignorance.
      October 3 at 7:17am

       

      Seven8 ‎"fiesty and fiery individuals"
      hahaha
      October 3 at 7:18am

       

      Seven8 I curious about Jesus what his Zodiac is.LEO, the Lion.

      Reminds me of the Sphinx, and the Lions of Judah!

      Note in the word LibraLibRa like NowRA in the recent UFO video Like Liberation Ra
      October 3 at 7:22am

       

      Seven8 Also the connection of Venus and Taurus!!! and thinking about trip back from Queensland and noting Venus below the crescent moon and the branch in the journey that emanated out of that.
      October 3 at 7:24am

       

      Seven8
      and off course the Sevens aspect being the Seventh House I thought was cool to and related to Justice.

      All the in the same theme in the parallelism of the journey from ancient times and has strong metaphor to the reality in reflection, i
      n the recognition of familiar patterns.
      October 3 at 7:27am

       

      Seven8 Remember the angels of Six wings, the good Beasts Angels 666, in charge of the broadcast circuits and in todays reality we find a lazer light ))SIGNAL(( emanating from close to an inhabitable planet. Interesting connection.
      October 3 at 7:29am

       

      Seven8 I thought that whole thread of thought experience was totally cool I enjoyed that. That must of been 10 minutes and what if eh! Just say the activation of Judgement is done in 10 minutes, through a series of thought and threads unlocking the lock where man has spent thousands of years trying to unlock the mystery of the Judgement of the Rebellion.
      October 3 at 7:36am

       

      Seven8
      I thought that whole thread of thought experience was totally cool I enjoyed that. That must of been 10 minutes and what if eh! Just say the activation of Judgement is done in 10 minutes, through a series of thought and threads unlocking the lock where man has spent thousands of years trying to unlock the mystery of the Judgement of the Rebellion.

      Done in 10 minutes. what if eh! hahaha

      what an amazing book based on true events of mankind
      .
      October 3 at 7:37am

       

      Seven8 That to me is a Grand Final win, in the thought.
      October 3 at 7:39am

       

      Seven8 ‎"the scales held by Astraea"

      Behz like that one being related to Ast linage being a perpetuation of Eve the mother Goddess in those areas of the Eastern Med near 1st Eden near where the Tree of Life once stood.
      October 3 at 7:46am

       

      Seven8 A place where we can gather together.
      October 3 at 7:47am
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    Sevens8 Praise the Lord, the Most High! in how all things can be used for the purpose of the Father of Heaven in the Kingdom of Heaven and Jesus the Sovereign makes all these things happen because he can being a Sevenfold Paradise Son and a true Friend of all mankind, if all mankind wishes.
    Sunday at 7:52am

     

    Xylinda Morpheus shared!!!
    Sunday at 7:52am
  • Sevens8 Is there parallelism going on here??? Is everyone gearing up for the EVENT. Is there an under current in World Government going on here??

    Sevens8 Here is another article linked the Lazer Light coming from near Giliesi 581.

  • Sevens8 Aaaah see what happens next in the meantime well find more things that may bring us closer to grand things in the Sevenfold Splendour that have been reserved for the Friends of Jesus, the Sovereign of the Sevenfold Universe. The friends who recognise him appreciate him where worship of the Father and Him springs out like an everlasting fountain of everlasting waters upon the Tree of Life in the light of the truth, the everlasting truth of all things
    Sunday at 8:22am

     

    Sevens8 In the everlasting annals of the planet and events.
    Sunday at 8:23am

     

  • Sevens8 I was noticing familiar patterns in the stat world image, I captured an image in my intrigue. Just having fun!

    Sevens8 I thought this was a interesting calculation.

    Playing around with some numbers, I discovered this strange thing. Maybe I'm wrong, high probably I am, but just take a look and tell me
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      • Diane Denison I like the article. Because 3 summers ago I was a chaperon for 12 kids for Spring break to Florida. Teens are teens but all that came out of their mouths was, "Party, party, party the worlds going to end in 2012." When I tried to tell them No One really knows. And that is most likely not true. They had it stuck in their heads it was going to happen. So it is not a good influence pushing out that propaganda BS..
        October 2 at 10:05pm

         

        Seven8 I agree Diane, no one knows the hour nor the time but there are signs and the season mentioned. I used to be interested in dates but not anymore, Im just swimming in the river.
        October 2 at 10:10pm ·

         

        Diane Denison It could be true. Life is full of surprises. Were just all in a fish bowl swimming about. Now aren't we mate LOL.
        October 2 at 10:12pm

         

        Diane Denison Don't quit the numbers. I love your numbers and data
        October 2 at 10:12pm

         

        Seven8 hahaha swimming looking for the whopper.
        October 2 at 10:14pm ·

         

        Diane Denison You know we don't have to look for the whopper, it's coming we just don't know when
        October 2 at 10:15pm ·

         

        Seven8 Aah we will just swim away mate! on the high seas and see what we uncover.
        October 2 at 10:15pm

         

        Seven8 No worries it will be ok.
        October 2 at 10:15pm

         

        Diane Denison Let uncover it now. I hate waiting..
        October 2 at 10:16pm

         

        Diane Denison Hi Carl.
        October 2 at 10:17pm ·

         

        Diane Denison Hahaha you lost me.. And you did that on purpose. I am no stupid..
        October 2 at 10:18pm

         

        Seven8 Wrong thread sorry
        October 2 at 10:19pm

         

        Diane Denison Da, I must of taken Di's dense pill tonight
        October 2 at 10:20pm

         

        Seven8 Aah no worries
        October 2 at 10:22pm

         

        Diane Denison I know No worries. I entertain you
        October 2 at 10:24pm

         

        Seven8 hahaha
        October 2 at 10:28pm

         

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  • Diane Denison Cheers mate
    October 2 at 10:29pm

     

    Sevens8 You to eh! you have all blessings.
    October 2 at 10:47pm

     

  • Sevens8 What a beautiful craft not sure on the time stamp.

    Great chance sighting !! Thanks you cosmostv.org !!

    Sevens8 Quite a truthful interview.

    Watch Fatrock386's video about The truth about islam documentary on Disclose.tv
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      • Rebecca Bencini Our God is a loving God The God of this world is a God of lies.. Jesus never hurt a soul.. ♥ ♥ ♥
        October 2 at 12:50am

         

        Seven8
        Well I believe this lady more than anyone. Islam needs a complete upgrade and uplift because its wrong and confused and does not reflect the nature of the Kingdom of Heaven.

        Some horrific stories about there man and his attitude towards h
        is wife being ripped apart by his followers. That is complete maladjustment and is evil, that whole scene is very shameful and is NOT the mark of a prophet of the Kingdom of Heaven. That has all the hallmarks of Caligastia in his destruction of things the major influence. All thiose terrorist and doctrines are not worth a cracker, no worth for anyone.
        October 2 at 5:31am

         

        Seven8
        I rather trust myself aned my guidance of the Holy Spirit rather than go to the advice of a Mullah Any day knowing the positive benefits, I think you are much safer to research on your own because I don't think they know much at all becasue there religion is not the witness of the truth and it dumb people down and reduces there potential. And the language is very negative along with there actions upon others when they have power over others. Its not of Jesus, it could never be representative of him in its current state because there witness is the most appalling witness on the planet. Look at the fruits and there you will know the answer.
        October 2 at 5:36am ·

         

        Seven8 Rote and ritual is no true religion and it could never be.
        October 2 at 5:37am

         

        Seven8
        All those leaders in Islam with there sophistry have much blood and Sin on there hands in there witness of today. And the paradise of a women IS NOT under a man foot but how about in your mouth in the denigration of the women as virtual slaves where the man cant control his mind so set rules upon woimen, how weak is that. All completely and utterly MANMADE nothing to do with the Father in heaven for Women, absolutely no relevance. These manmade rules in subjection of women in Islam are like Dust in the Wind as far as the Father in Heaven is concerned.
        October 2 at 5:45am

         

        Seven8 While Islam bathes in the fields of Death and Destruction in wayward doctrine and filth, there will be NO PROPHET coming from that religion as he will not be able to demonstrate himself in truth. That will be taken away.
        October 2 at 5:48am

         

        Seven8 Islam should look to the root of the Tree of Life and be teachable and move forward in new light of truth dispelling the darkness. That is the path for Islam, the root of the Tree of Life(Jesus) in 1st Eden. No other pathway is of high quality than this Sevenfold path on this planet currently.
        October 2 at 6:04am

         

        Seven8
        What better book, the Book of Ur, The Urantia Book in the Regalia and light of the Truth. Its the Book of Jesus for us today that leads us to the Root of the Tree of Life in 1stEden.

        Its the best construct for all religions on the planet t
        oday. No other construct comes close that touches the heart of the Kingdom of Heaven and all the generations from the Beginning.
        October 2 at 6:11am

         

        Seven8 Jesus is the Second Adam and Jesus is attached to the Garden of 1st Eden, he comes back to 1st Eden to the root of the Tree of life, to deal with the Snake of the Garden of today, dealing with all his snake nefarious schemes within all religion by way of discovery, recognition and appreciation. Truth!
        October 2 at 6:27am

         

        Seven8
        That is the clue, Jesus = Second Adam and Jesus = 1st Eden the parallel! Off course the reflection in parallel. Jesus and 1st Eden, the root of the Tree of Life.

        Jesus comes back to 1st Eden as the Second Adam and as Planetary Prince whi
        ch = Dalamatia City, that is also another reflection in the Parallel as Jesus, the 2nd Adam deals with Caligastia in the final judgment of the rebel and his mates, the reason for Dalamatia City and its purpose in the revealing.

        All makes sense in reflective parallel and in synchronisation with the journey from ancient times. The beginning of all our generation from the times of the Sons of God to 1st Eden
        .
        October 2 at 6:28am

         

        Seven8 Types and shadows where truth emerges out of the shadows in true light in demonstration.
        October 2 at 6:30am

         

        Rebecca Bencini You said it brother!! Nice outlook! :)
        October 2 at 6:47am

         

        Seven8 All from the Heart and Soul, in the river thoughts and feelings that spring up from within to without feeling passion and warmth.
        October 2 at 6:52am

         

  • Rebecca Bencini You said it brother!! Nice outlook! :)
    October 2 at 6:47am

     

    Sevens8 All from the Heart and Soul, in the river thoughts and feelings that spring up from within to without feeling passion and warmth.
    October 2 at 6:52am
  • Sevens8 Interesting, a possibe signal coming Giliese 581e

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        Seven8
        This should get the Babel people wondering. Considering all the off usury about this planet. I wonder how the principles of Babel/Babylon fall within the Universal Law???? considering its illegal beginning as in rebellion. And now we have laser signals coming from a newly discovered planet.

        Wouldn't you say its one step closer with a laser signal emanating Giliese 581

        I just wonder if there gross usury based system is legal???? Dilmun/Babel is the product of rebellion and it did achieve its personal goals but what of the consequences to man and how does it stand in Universal LAW???
        ?
        October 1 at 5:40am

         

        Seven8
        And what of the Wall street Babel people when they gloat and salivate in the name of profit without any regard to anyone?? Note some of there Gross internal emails of the true attitude of Babel and the people that run it. Just head up because when Jesus comes it means Judgement, he will adjudge the age because he can do so and he will because simply Jesus says so.

        Wall/Babel street better start changing there attitude. All these are clear warnings could mean a permanent slide to 0 points if there is a revealing. Just letting my fellow brother know that he has to get his act together and see how he falls within the Universal Law and make changes and there is a path
        .
        October 1 at 5:49am

         

        Seven8 Judgement comes from the beginning and its all about the beginning of the default and us today.
        October 1 at 5:54am

         

        Seven8 You see Babel rely on the mystery religions and Sophistry as there saviour but all that gets wiped out in Judgement. Sandy foundations, there is no stability in truth from Babel/Babylon Street especially not prepared to be able to cope with the Adjudging of the age by Jesus.
        October 1 at 6:00am

         

        Seven8 Babel Street is like a sitting duck currently and there is nothing much anyoine can do, dont think anything will be the same after the adjudging of the age. Now way known!
        October 1 at 6:02am

         

        Seven8 Babel Street is like a sitting duck currently and there is nothing much anyone can do, don't think anything will be the same after the adjudging of the age. Now way known! If you work for Babel street just find and know the truth, acknowledge and do.
        October 1 at 6:03am

         

        Seven8 That Milestone around mans neck will be thrown into the sea by the Angel and where does the Angel comes from? the sea. Like the Tree of Life in our day mmm. The ArchAngel is the Angel with the pronouncement and with the Millstone in his hand. All he has to do is reveal and the Millstone goes back to the sea from where it came from.
        October 1 at 6:08am ·

         

        Seven8 In all the conversations behind closed doors, the angels have to find the truth in there conversations to assist the truth somehow, they have to wade through 98% bullshit and grossness in attitude before they get some resemblance of the truth in Babel Street. Den of thieves in woollen clothing acting like predator sheep, ahh the priests of Baalim!
        October 1 at 6:12am

         

        Seven8
        In all the conversations behind closed doors, the angels have to find the truth in there conversations to assist the truth somehow, they have to wade through 98% bullshit and grossness in attitude before they get some resemblance of the truth in Babel Street. Den of thieves in woollen clothing acting like predator sheep, ahh the priests of Baalim!

        and know Gordon Gecko is back in the Babel Street idealisation and what's within it, the hero of Babel and he's back! Big Deal
        !
        October 1 at 6:14am

         

        Seven8 I reckon 99% the time the truth in Babel Street is non existent. Thats how sceptical I am about that whole system and the people who represent it. I just see the effect on mankind everyday.
        October 1 at 6:17am

         

        Seven8 In the future there would have to be a different attitude to money and the running of it. This way is no way despite what people think. The compound effect bring only prosperity to a few in relative terms of world population. And who can trust the FEW in motive and deed behind closed doors?????
        October 1 at 6:23am

         

        Seven8 Thats the issue of Babel from the beginning, Trust, Truth and Loyalty.
        October 1 at 6:23am ·

         

        Seven8 Anyway Babel str in the meantime, you work youre asses off to make a better system for mankind. You get paid well, you make it better for all mankind and not only for a few in the compound interest tree of profit motivation salavation. The most ugliest thing on the earth, that spirit and what it does to man and what he becomes.
        October 1 at 6:41am

         

        Diane Denison Good point Dennis
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        Seven8 I see it everywhere the effect of profit motivation and its salivation forsaking all, trampling over people like they are a nothing because they have the power and money with influence and they use it for selfish purposes driven by ego. Loyalty forget it, because in that salivation comes other things that destroys loyalty.
        October 1 at 8:05pm ·

         

        Seven8 Just sick of what I see sometimes and I feel useless half the time to do anything about things that are misshapen. Thats why I do this, I feel I can do something with the Father concerning this through 1st Eden and the Tree of Life maybe!
        October 1 at 8:09pm

         

        Seven8
        Anyway, the ball is mans court. So lets see what man does?? Lets how good man is really amoungst all his crap.

        I challenge man to find the truth in 1stEden, lets see how gutsy he is!!! He talks alot but lets do. By the way where is re
        ligion in all of this??? All quite on the home front asleep or in denial choosing to be ignorant. Is that the family of Jesus the Sovereign?? Where is his so called friends in religion, asleep when Jesus the Sovereign requires you to perform a task!!
        October 1 at 8:18pm ·

         

        Seven8
        At the end of the day in the Dead Sea Scrolls in digging a well in the water the final message will be rejected by many many people and that is reflected in the DSC.

        Don't worry about it mate! III just do it anyway at least in the thought.
        T
        he Father says to the churches, Why did you not listen to my servant? then rebuke.

        The last Teacher of Righteousness in the reopened Office of the Messiah, the servant will be battered and bruised within himself spiritually and emotionally no worries about that but he will not brake.

        The world will brake before he brakes because he is of Dutch origin mate and they are stubborn, single minded and determined when they are inspired within. That's why people don't like them much hahaha because of that fact and which can lead to other things that can be misshapen spiritually.

        At the end of the day if the track is right, The Father will have to back up the journey in full revealing whether we go to 1st Eden of not. If Christianity lets this opportunity slip by then there is problems, I'm sorry but this is a project of the Father in Heaven and it requires his children to look into the matter for all mankind.

        If it means researching and testing a new revelation to look into via 1st Eden and the possible root of the Tree of Life then look into it
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        October 1 at 8:39pm
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    This is the Day and the Lord I believe is set to come and I think its all about 1st Eden and the root of the Tree of Life via the Urantia Book and can be blended with the Bible and other books of religion.

    The Urantia Book came to uplift the Bible and enhance it. I know I go over the bible and the UB each day and I know the effect. Enhanced appreciation and increased love and relationship with the Father in Heaven with clarity and as a friend a good friend more importantly, like Jesus, he is a loyal friend in the witness of my journey from the Beginning.
    October 1 at 8:50pm

     

    Sevens8 Praise the Lord and thank you Jesus my friend, absolutely 100%
    October 1 at 8:53pm
  • Sevens8 A crop circle for September.

    Baltic Farm, nr Bishop Cannings, Wiltshire.
    Reported 26th September.

    Interesting pattern.

     

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      • Diane Denison That is a nice looking crop circle..
        October 1 at 2:36pm

         

        Seven8
        Hey Diane, how you going? well I hope.

        With the Crop pattern the only thing that comes to mind regarding this crop circle is the ribbon effect between the dots.

        It reminds me of a Nostradamus image and things I did some time ago.


        http://www.dalamatiacity.com/NostradamusEndScenario.ht
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        October 1 at 7:39pm

         

        Seven8
        Reflecting on the image, note the Tree of Life image and note the significance considering the recent thoughts regarding the Tree of Life and 1st Eden in a third expedition proposal in the thought. Note how its associated with a sword held by one man. The double edged sword, a blessing for some and a curse for others.

        Must be the message at the end of ignorance AGE.

        http://www.dalamatiacity.com/NostradamusEndScenario.ht
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        October 1 at 7:44pm

         

        Seven8
        That thing on the Tree of Life is the Harlot riding on the Beast but the beast is in enmity with the Harlot(Babylon). The purpose of the Beast representing the angels of Six wings of the broadcast circuits is to Bring the Harlot/Babel/Babylon to Judgement.

        The Harlot rides the Beast as the Beast brings her to the Universal Justice Courts of the Ancients of Days. Part of the Sevenfold Universal Government of Jesus the Sovereign. The Beast is an Agent of Jesus the Sovereign who brings that harlot of Babel/Baalim world system to Justice.

        In my mind this is the right interpretation.

        That is exactly what the Babel/Baalim system is a Harlot in the highest degree, who lives on the backs of all mankind sucking life out of man in the ruination of man through debt of the worst kind, compound interest life time debt for the small man
        .
        October 1 at 7:52pm
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  • Sevens8 That is the Mystery of the Harlot/Babylon/Babel take your pick.
    October 1 at 7:53pm

     

    Sevens8
    Now who is going to go 1stEden looking for the Tree of Life. Now the boldness and courage of man in all his speak has to arise when required.

    Will that happen, I'm not sure because when it comes to things like this, man generally not all, is a gutless wonder when it comes down to it. He can throw his life away upon stupid things but when it comes to the truth he runs to the hills for fear of what he looses rather than what he gains. Thats faithless and fear bound, even in the faith there are those that simply run and deny but can never demonstrate but full of judgement upon another That is not the witness at all.
    October 1 at 7:58pm

     

  • Sevens8 UFO over Nowra on the 17th September 2010

    Note NowRain Nowra, it was filmed >>05.00am<< in the morning by a painter going to work.

    NowRa from the Land of Sinim at the Ends of the Earth.

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      • Seven8
        There exists an ironstone slab found by a man out (date unknown) which bears a Phoenician inscription - >>>>"The Eye of Ra the sun rules Sinim."<<<<

        Sinim was the ancient Hebrew name for a mysterious southern continent, mentioned in the Old
        Testament. The Phoenician name for it was Ophir, a "great south land of gold" where gold was obtained to build Soloman¼s temple. The Egyptians called it "the land of Punt."

        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/720016/post
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        Seven8
        Im still amazed by this reflection.

        The extraordinary 5,000 year-old story of the death and burial of >>"Lord Djes-eb"<<>> one of the sons of the >>Pharaoh Ra Djedef.<<

        The dj and DEF aspect fascinates me.


        http://preterhuman.net/texts/other/crystalinks/egyptaustralia.htm
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        September 30 at 9:09pm

         

        Seven8
        Im still amazed by this reflection.

        The extraordinary 5,000 year-old story of the death and burial of >>"Lord Djes-eb"<<>> one of the sons of the >>Pharaoh Ra Djedef.<< and its connection to 14561, def-456 and the dj aspect and the nature o
        f the journey and many other things.

        The dj and DEF aspect fascinates me.

        http://preterhuman.net/texts/other/crystalinks/egyptaustralia.htm
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        September 30 at 9:13pm

         

        Seven8 Interesting site

        http://www.australiaoncd.com.au/discovery/phoen.htm
        September 30 at 9:26pm

         

        Seven8
        Here is some dreamtime reflection, the URu who got there understanding from the serpent heroes, thought to be Egyptian. Sounds familiar, serpent people something I have heard before??

        "The Turawul people said their ancestors had obtained t
        he returning boomerang and other cultural items from the “culture-heroes” and it was these “culture heroes” who gave them many of their religious beliefs and practices in the long-ago “Dreamtime”. Descriptions of these great culture-bringers elsewhere describe them as a white, ie pale-skinned race. Aboriginal myth and legend Australia-wide identifies the Uru as Sun-worshipping ‘Serpent Beings’ and the creators of Man.

        The tribespeople of the Kimberley district, Western Australia recall them as “worshippers of serpents” and in Central Australia they are linked with Uluru [Ayers Rock], which to the Aborigines means >>“Serpent of the Rock”<<. >>The Aborigines described them as a tall, pale [ie white] skinned, blue-eyed race.<< (adamic gene influence, Andite)

        These traditions are mirrored in those of the Solomon Islanders, who claimed >>“Serpent Beings” inter-bred with their ancestors,<< having arrived from the great land to the south of New Guinea. Mummified and skeletal remains of these “Serpent Beings” are said by Central >>Australian Aborigines to lie hidden in secret burial places,<< as do the New Guinea and Solomon Island natives. Such claims are also made by the Fijian, Tongan and Maori peoples. "

        http://www.mysteriousaustralia.com/aboriginal_uru.htm
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        September 30 at 10:00pm

         

        Seven8
        Im also interested in the Pharoah Den whilst following the dj trail back to Egypt.

        Horus Name Den, "Horus who Hits", "Horus who Strikes"
        Nebty Name Nebti Khasti, Nebti Chasti, "Nebti, the one of the desert"

        pharaohs

        Menes
        Djer
        Merneith
        Djet
        Den
        Anedjib
        Semerkhet
        Qa'a
        Sneferka

        monuments
        Tomb T, Abydos
        Tomb, Saqqar
        a
        September 30 at 10:11pm

         

        Seven8
        More about Djedefre

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djedefre

        Djedefre (also known as Radjedef) was an Egyptian pharaoh, the son and immediate successor of Khufu. The mother of Djedefre is unknown. His name means >>"Enduring like Re."[3] Djedefr
        e was the first king to use the title Son of Ra as part of his royal titulary,<< which is seen as an indication of the growing popularity of the cult of the solar god Ra.
        September 30 at 10:15pm

         

        Seven8
        Interesting and we are speaking about the Sphinxs pointing to the city of the Rising Sun(Dilmun/Babel) in the Sea of the Rising Sun, the Persian Gulf.


        Djedefre continued the move north in the location of pyramids by building his
        (now ruined) pyramid at Abu Rawash, some 8 km to the North of Giza. It is the northernmost part of the Memphite necropolis.

        >>>Some believe that the sphinx of his wife, Hetepheres II, was the first sphinx created. It was part of Djedefre's pyramid complex at Abu Rawash.<<<<
        In 2004, evidence that Djedefre may have been responsible for the building of the Sphinx at Giza in the image of his father was reported by the French Egyptologist Vassil Dobrev.[14]

        http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Sphinx_of_Hetepheres_II_-_fourth_dynasty_of_Egypt.jpg/125px-Sphinx_of_Hetepheres_II_-_fourth_dynasty_of_Egypt.jp
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        September 30 at 10:20pm

         

        Seven8
        Due to the poor condition of Abu Rawash, only small traces of his mortuary complex have been found; his pyramid causeway proved to run from >>north to south<< rather than the more conventional >>east to west<< while no valley temple has been found.[16] Only the rough ground plan of his mud-brick mortuary temple was traced—with some difficulty--

        >>"in the usual place on the east face of the pyramid."[16]<
        <
        September 30 at 10:22pm

         

        Seven8
        Due to the poor condition of Abu Rawash, only small traces of his mortuary complex have been found; his pyramid causeway proved to run from >>north to south<< rather than the more conventional >>east to west<< while no valley temple has been found.[16] Only the rough ground plan of his mud-brick mortuary temple was traced—with some difficulty--

        >>"in the usual place on the >east< face of the >pyramid<."[16]<
        <
        September 30 at 10:23pm

         

        Seven8
        Khufu,
        (Horus (Throne) Name), Medjedu 2470 - 2447 BCE Great Pyramid of Giza (I see a ddj in the throne name, hahaha )

        Djedefre,
        (throne name) Kheper 2447 - 2439 BCE Pyramid of Djedefre

        (Like keeper, Kheper)

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_dynasty_of_Egypt

        Dje-seb son of Djedefre died in Australia/Sinim
        .
        September 30 at 10:39pm

         

        Seven8
        ‎4th Pharaoh Den, First Dynasty, 2975–2935

        list

        djer

        den
        djet

        dj aspect is very common
        .
        September 30 at 10:40pm

         

        Seven8 The >fourth< dynasty of ancient Egypt (notated Dynasty IV or Dynasty 4) is characterized as a >>"golden age"<< of the Old Kingdom. Dynasty IV lasted from ca. 2613 to 2494 BC.[1] It was a time of peace and prosperity as well as one during which trade with other countries is documented.
        September 30 at 10:53pm

         

        Seven8
        Anyway about NOWRA, it means

        Written 'nou-woo-ro' by Charles Throsby in 1821, Nowra is an aboriginal word reputedly meaning either >>'camping place' or 'black cockatoo'.<<

        Interesting we speak about the Black Stump, the Tree of Life destroy
        ed by Fire. Its a camping place to, a gathering of the Tree of Life.

        http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-factsheet/nowra--culture-and-history-20081117-68zj.htm
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        September 30 at 11:01pm
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  • Sevens8 Nowra is in Jervis Bay, sounds like Jesus Bay!!
    September 30 at 11:02pm

     

    Diane Denison That was a bright light..
    October 1 at 2:40pm

     

  • Sevens8 Totaly Cool!

    A team of planet hunters led by astronomers at the University of California (UC), Santa Cruz and the Carnegie Institution of Washington has announced the discovery of a planet orbiting a nearby star, Gliese 581, at a distance that places it squarely in the middle of the star's "habitable zone." This
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      • Seven8 Gliese 581..5+8+1=14(77) sevens hahaha
        September 30 at 8:02pm

         

        Seven8 and I see a DEF hahaha
        September 30 at 8:05pm

         

        Seven8
        In their report, the scientists announce the discovery of two planets around Gliese 581, bringing the total number of known planets around the star to six.

        http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/science/found-a-planet-we-might-survive-on-201
        00930-15xxn.html?from=brisbanetimes_sb
        September 30 at 8:32pm

         

        Laurie Sorensen Dennis, what is a DEF? And isn't 1+4=5? Could you explain? I have a numerology book right here.
        October 1 at 6:27am

         

        Seven8
        Hi Laurie
        No, its not numerology, just a simple adding calculation to see if it reveals familiar number patterns that I see in the journey, like the 777s, 555, 222 in the result.

        The DEF thing came out of alphabet I made up in the magnetar j
        ourney. DEF also reflected 456 but 456 is also part of my birthdate. 14561 and then there def-456 secondary midwayers. Then you have RA djeDEF reflected in Egyptian Kingship with the dj reflection running down the line and Jane leads triangle 456stuff like that! finding commonality amoung these things and events to see how it reflects along the journey in the timeline.
        October 1 at 6:33am ·

         

        Seven8 Its kind of like personalised meant for specific purpose in a long term project and it runs through the timeline. The patterns are like dolmens, landmark of identification in the timeline of the journey as reflected.
        October 1 at 6:36am

         

        Laurie Sorensen Dennis, is this about the 7's diagram on the triangle/pyramid timeline? Are you the one who shared this?
        October 1 at 6:48am

         

        Laurie Sorensen I have long believed inside our planets are hollow, too, and I am seeing more evidence that supports this. Do you?
        October 1 at 6:50am

         

        Seven8 Yeah its me, hard to explain it was something i was inspired about and things happened in my experience.
        October 1 at 6:50am ·

         

        Laurie Sorensen You CREATED it? that is fantastic
        October 1 at 6:51am ·

         

        Seven8 I dont think there is hollow earth but I dont know, Im sure there are many hollows in the earth.
        October 1 at 6:52am

         

        Laurie Sorensen ok. then, help me wrap around this. You are seeing a connection with this discovery?
        October 1 at 6:52am

         

        Seven8
        Many connections and parallel along the way where i see familiar number patterns and the journey reflected in the Magnetars that I realised along the way in the plotting of them. The Magnetars kept on flashing during the journey, it was really exciting and in parallel. Like with the crop circles of 2009 and 2010 all familiar patterns and symbols that I felt reflected familiar things I have seen before. The more I shared the more happened.

        I see connection right through to the ancient places in all kinds of branches and paths along the way in the linear journey of the timeline
        .
        October 1 at 6:59am

         

        Laurie Sorensen I know a few people that are experiencing similarities as you are. We are waking up and paying attention to the details in every layer, and becoming aware of the synchronicities. We are seeing these connections, as well. Cellular memory?
        October 1 at 7:04am ·

         

        Seven8
        Everything was released and documented along the way and I knew in the beginning it was the right thing to do.

        The one question I had in the beginning was, I wonder if a bridge could be made to Christianity? then I looked into it focusing
        on1st Eden to see if i could see it reflected in other books which began an inquiry that has expanded into many areas.
        October 1 at 7:04am

         

        Seven8 Thats interesting Laurie, sounds like something is arising or revealing but what is it specifically? It could be memories of the past from the beginning dealing with unfinished matters of the planet perhaps from the beginning.
        October 1 at 7:07am

         

        Laurie Sorensen omg. I am trying to find connections to Christianity, too. Ok. Where are you getting 1st Eden? I have never read the Urantia. Could you describe its authenticity? I put it in favourites for later, but you have me moving forward now. Is this a trusted document? I don't need any more confusion. Trying to connect it all, from the ancients, even if alien. I have come across the Emerald Tablets as well. How did you get to where you are now?
        October 1 at 7:09am ·

         

        Laurie Sorensen Yes, inquiring has opened up many things to me, too. What are your thoughts on the bloodlines and the lizard connections?
        October 1 at 7:10am ·

         

        Seven8
        Might take a while to answer all your questions Laurie, the urantia Book is a massive study.

        But this might it make easier

        Here is a link to the Garden of Eden


        http://www.urantia.org/en/urantia-book-standardized/paper-73-garden-eden?term=Garden+of+Eden#search-jump-result-0

        Here is a link to Discovery of Atlantis, the book and expedition of Robert Sarmast.
        http://www.discoveryofatlantis.com/

        and here is another link of my own in my journey with some creative imagination.

        http://www.dalamatiacity.com/EdenGates/1stEden.htm

        I hope this helps, the real proof is in the verification and we have to do more verification, to know it is the truth but so far so good
        .
        October 1 at 7:20am

         

        Laurie Sorensen This is great! Thank you for offering so much!
        October 1 at 7:21am ·

         

        Seven8
        Our Genes have been corrupted by the Fallen Sons of God who built Dilmun/Babel. They are the fallen Sons of God and we know there will in manifestation. However we have a portion of this corruption down from the ages, like there are portions of the Adamic Gene uplift in the world today. The affliction of this corruption is FEAR, that is the signature, mankind suffers from too much fear.

        How it manifests mainly today is in attitude, with lizards and things I'm not sure there is too many bad videos and things on the Internet and some real dumb people in there conspiracy thoughts to.

        It all becomes quite boring after a while.

        In my writing that I feel could have Universal effects going on a hunch, no government or threat has entered my email. I work for government in a sense to uplift civilisation in truth verified, I'm doing what all religions should be doing, they should be doing this and funding it for the truth
        .
        October 1 at 7:28am

         

        Laurie Sorensen I am so tired of fear. I am really struggling with it as we speak. I am so grateful you continued with your effort to share more. Please keep pressing. Thank you for inspiring. I mean it. Don't stop what you are doing. You have passion.
        October 1 at 7:33am ·

         

        Laurie Sorensen I will pass your thought on to churches. I network pretty far here. You are right.
        October 1 at 7:34am

         

        Laurie Sorensen No, not directly, just not afraid to spread the word. I have a little trouble with organized religion.
        Where do you think 1st Eden is?
        October 1 at 7:43am

         

        Seven8
        I didnt realise you were connected to Churches but they should look into it. The current focus is 1st Eden, looking at the place where the Tree of life once stood and to see if there is any evidence there. The best one could hope for is a Black Stump and roots petrified.

        The connection Jesus is the Tree of life, he is the root and he is from the beginning being the Alpha and the Omega. The gathering together I believe could be connected to a third expedition focusing on the middle ring on top of the Acropolis plus the whole city.

        It will run into millions to be honest including production and so forth and there is a long term plan and goal as recently expressed
        .
        October 1 at 7:55am ·

         

        Seven8
        Laurie, I just saw your posts after I posted the recent on of mine.

        No worries, I will keep on pressing on seeking, finding and revealing all I can. Its just a natural response for me but be assured we are on an exciting path to 1stEden off
        Cyprus which lays 1 mile under the water.

        Robert Sarmast confirmed the location in his expeditions but we have to go there again with a more thoughts with a focus on the Tree of life. The time in between, bridging of the gap allows us to find further vision about the place in relation to all religion. Bridging of the Gap allows us to get re-inspired again in light of more information that had to be seeked out in the books of religion in the blend with the Urantia Book.

        The mission of 1stEden was never finished, the worlds best kept secret and mystery was never completed just a hiatus for re-energising and find out more things
        .
        October 2 at 6:42am

         

        Seven8
        Laurie don't worry about fear, understand its in our genes. We can overcome fear in faith and we have a good friend to help us in truth and understanding. The Angels are right next you and love you and guiding you in the will of the Father which is your will, in your own individual way in synchronisation with the Father in Heaven in truth. Everything will work out fine, 100%

        The Father in Heaven have good people in the field in service to you with the best information that can be possibly perceived. Don't you worry about that, everything is well in the hands of the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven. The whole Universe is right behind you, I know that and you have good friends here
        !
        October 2 at 6:49am

         

        Seven8 Thanks Rebecca for your thought and reading through things, I really appreciate it. It very good for me, its a blessing and furthers the work, the mission, its gives spiritual strength.
        October 2 at 6:55am
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  • Sevens8
    Laurie dont worry about fear, understand its in our genes. We can overcome fear in faith and we have a good friend to help us in truth and understanding. The Angels are right next you and love you and guiding you in the will of the Father which is your will, in your own individual way in synchronisation with the Father in Heaven in truth. Everything will work out fine, 100%

    The Father in Heaven have good people in the field in service to you with the best information that can be possibly perceived. Don't you worry about that, everything is well in the hands of the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven. The whole Universe is right behind you, I know that and you have good friends here
    !
    October 2 at 6:49am

     

    Sevens8 Thanks Rebecca for your thought and reading through things, I really appreciate it. It very good for me, its a blessing and furthers the work, the mission, its gives spiritual strength.
    October 2 at 6:55am

     

  • Sevens8 It just occured to me that Jesus is the Second Adam then it is only logical that Jesus would focus on the Tree of Life in our day and that means 1st Eden. I think a third should occur over the whole area Eden proper with a strong focus on the top of the Acropolis in the middle ring.

    September 30 at 6:23pm

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      • Seven8 The Temple of Adoration.
        September 30 at 6:24pm

         

        Seven8 Adam lived of the Tree of Life. Jesus, second Adam Sovereign is the Tree of Life and that would be the right focus as Jesus is the Root, the Core.
        September 30 at 6:25pm
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  • Sevens8 I reckon that is the Target!
    September 30 at 6:27pm

     

    Sevens8 We should Go for1st Eden, we should make it happen in a worldwide event.

    No worries mate!

    From the bloke from the Bush this side of the Black Rock near the Vale of Springs looking for the Black Stump of the Tree of Life!
    September 30 at 7:08pm

     

  • Sevens8 ‎1. And in those days >>I will open the store chambers of blessing which are in the heaven, so as to send them down ⌈upon the earth⌉ over the work and labour of the children of men.<<<
    >>>2. And >truth and peace<> shall be associated together throughout all the days of the world and throughout all the generations of me
    n
    .'<<<<

     

    The Book of Enoch, by R.H. Charles, [1917], full text etext at sacred-texts.com
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      • Seven8
        This includes truth looking forward, all generations from the beginning of our sentient species, in the revealing from the beginning of all our spiritual culture, all generations and looking forward.

        "2. And >truth and peace<>shall be assoc
        iated together throughout all the days of the world and >throughout all the generations of men<"
        September 30 at 5:44pm

         

        Seven8
        On Earth as it is in Heaven, the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth opening the Store Chambers, the Ancient Places of the Tree of Life.

        "I will open >the store chambers of blessing which are in the heaven,< so as to >send them down< ⌈upon the earth
        over >the work< and labour of the children of men.<<<
        September 30 at 5:47pm ·

         

        Rene Ertzinger
        One of the things yet to develop is the language around morontia / spiritual realities
        So many things mentioned in ancient texts -- well -- it's sort of like a bushman -- seeing a boeing 747 for the first time -- and for lack of words of
        understandings -- he runs back to the village proclaiming "the mighty thundering silver bird"
        In ancient, sacred texts, many visions -- lack appropriate language to correctly express what was experience
        d
        September 30 at 6:01pm

         

        Geoffrey Haefele Yes Dennis. I see you have acquired the Apocryphal writings. Controversial yet informative. DO you know when this truth and peaceful time period will commence on earth?
        September 30 at 6:03pm ·

         

        Seven8 A.S.A.P. hahaha as far as I'm concerned, but this peace may depend on a 3rd expedition to 1stEden to start with. Maybe its not over yet until we fulfil the goals! the tasks at hand.
        September 30 at 6:38pm

         

        Seven8 I have a feeling that the Father cannot reveal more until we reveal all that is hidden and Jesus the Root and core of the tree of Life, I believe Jesus and the tree of Life, 1st Eden is the focus point that may lead to peace.
        September 30 at 6:40pm

         

        Seven8
        Rene,

        well -- it's sort of like a bushman -- seeing a boeing 747 for the first time hahaha what a laugh! aah see what happens eh! When man gets the idea, then he clicks on, he gets inspired and highly motivated. I believe that can happen t
        o anyone being an inner spiritual experience in the physical and especially attached to the Tree of Life.

        When he hears and sees! Wow
        !
        September 30 at 7:18pm

         

        Rene Ertzinger
        yes - wow - when he hears and sees
        but let's build upon my bushman example!
        He's now overwhelmed! doesn't really at all have any sort of concept, let alone appropriate terminology, let alone understandings of the entire experience..
        He's
        up against something that will take a very very long time to come to terms with
        October 1 at 4:35am

         

        Seven8 But today many bushmen know about technology maybe its a matter of the mushrrom effect.
        October 1 at 5:27am

         

      • Sevens8 any volunteers or we just look and speak.
        October 1 at 5:27am

         

        Diane Denison I am speaking as a volunteer."I will open the store chambers of blessings which are in heaven, so as to send them down (upon the Earth)." A beautiful promise, there fore it will happen. As Christ said, "No one will know the minuet or hour I will come back." So another words there are no books written that reveal his exact plans. Only Christ and Our Father knows. We can assume and think we got it figured out. But not one human on Earth really knows the plan. Plans change
        October 2 at 9:33pm

         

    Sevens8 One Day the Core of the Tree of Life, will be with us WOW!

    (1319.1) 119:8.8 Urantia is the sentimental shrine of all Nebadon, >>the chief<< of ten million inhabited worlds, >>>the mortal home of Christ Michael, sovereign of all Nebadon, a Melchizedek minister to the realms, a system savior, an Adamic redeemer, a seraph
    i
    c fellow, an associate of ascending spirits, a morontia progressor, a Son of Man in the likeness of mortal flesh, and the Planetary Prince of Urantia.<<<

    >>> And your record tells the truth when it says that this same Jesus has promised sometime to return to the world of his terminal bestowal, the World of the Cross.<<<<

     

    [swf file="http://www.urantia.org/ub-media/ub-mp3/U119.mp3"]The Urantia Book Paper 119The Bestowals of Christ Michael (1308.1) 119:0.1 CHIEF of the Evening Stars of Nebadon, I am assigned to Urantia by Gabriel on the mission of revealing the story of the seven bestowals of the Universe Sovereign, M
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      • Linda Hodge Don't know about the rest of humanity, but I say come on back! All help gratefully accepted..
        September 30 at 7:40pm

         

        Sevens8 I know what you mean but I feel we have to do a few things.
        September 30 at 7:45pm

    Diony Thomson Thomson Dennis , thanks , its great to be among your friends , blessings to you, wonderful soul !!!!

    September 30 at 10:05am See Wall-to-Wall

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      • Sevens8 Thank you for your kind words Diony, I find your blessings very inspiring and inspires me to find more things of interest. Just inspires me, thats what we are made for, its where we find our true and full potential. Thank you for your blessings and pray for great and massive blessings for you to, 100%.
        September 30 at 10:10am

         

        Diony Thomson Thomson
        Dennis, Tomorrow its ours. I have no certainty of tomorrow. I can keep moving, I can live, I can follow, therefore, thinking, imagining, thinking, reading, writing, interacting with nature, with minerals, plants, animals as irrational and my fellows. But nothing and no one assures me it will. Only I suspect that there might be a tomorrow, but it is uncertain. And rivet: the only certainty I have of the future is that I have to die because living beings are born, we reproduce and die. And death is the end of this story. And everything you write us speaks of hope for the real story. I really like what you write. Thanks for existing! MY ENGLISH IS NOT VERY GOOD, BUT I TRY.God bless you !!
        September 30 at 10:20am

         

        Sevens8
        What you say is like me. Constantly for me, "thinking, imagining, thinking, reading, writing, interacting" Come what may I know my future is assured that gives me liberty and freedom as an individual in the truth to express myself being exactly who I am.

        I have no doubt despite anything the future is assured and there is nothing to worry about at all. Its a two way street of the Father in love and affection in the worship I experience that much as I find things that stimulate me, a natural response. To be in the river of the Father is very good experience and to see Cosmic synchronisation is very beautiful and open to all as one embarks on the journey with the Father in Heaven in Faith and mutual Love for one another.

        The more I receive the more I give out as a natural response. Being a natural response tells me its true, supernal and sublime and we share that submlimity together as walk in faith together, with all mankind on the voyage of faith, through shadow of the Waves of Spiritual Death that does exist in untruth. But we know our destination and where we come from and know what we must pursue on this voyage of truth, beauty and goodness
        .
        September 30 at 3:17pm

    Sevens8 Hey this is full on, dont look into the light from what I picked up. Should be interesting movie but I doubt this could ever happen in real life.

    cHh5ElMWJJg Looks promising, but dont get to excited, the people who directed this are the brothers strauss . And they directed this. IWn8vywxIm8 They are

    Rebecca Bencini ·٠•●♥ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ ♥●•٠· You Are Loved ·٠•●♥ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ ♥●•٠·

    September 30 at 8:28am

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      • Seven8 Thank you Rebecca, great blessings eh! 100% thank you.
        September 30 at 8:29am

         

        Rebecca Bencini you're welcome! ♥
        September 30 at 9:15am

         

        Rene Ertzinger that's a nice reward for all the efforts you invest here Dennis :)
        September 30 at 9:54am
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  • Sevens8 its a real blessing for me. thanks
    September 30 at 9:58am

     

    Rebecca Bencini yes I can tell by reading all you've written you devote much of your time seeking out the truth.. much love and blessings to you always. ♥
    September 30 at 10:00am
  • Sevens8 ‎1915.1) 176:2.4 “You behold me now in weakness and in the flesh, but when I return, it shall be with power and in the spirit. The eye of flesh beholds the Son of Man in the flesh, >>but only the eye of the spirit will behold the Son of Man glorified by the Father and appearing on earth in his own name.<<

    [swf file="http://www.urantia.org/ub-media/ub-mp3/U176.mp3"]The Urantia Book Paper 176Tuesday Evening on Mount Olivet (1912.1) 176:0.1 THIS Tuesday afternoon, as Jesus and the apostles passed out of the temple on their way to the Gethsemane camp, Matthew, calling attention to the temple constructio
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      • Seven8
        Isaiah 30:26
        Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in >>the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of
        their wound.<<

        Isaiah 58:12
        >>And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up >>the foundations of many generations;<<>> and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach,<< The restorer of paths to dwell in.<<

        http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?search=breach&p=2&q=breach&ver=kjv

        Praise the Lord we are today the Repairers of the Breach of the Tree of Life. We repair the Breach that destroyed 1st Eden through the Tree of Life where it last stood in 1stEden and we are the Sevenfold with the Sevenfold Instruction as foreseen by the prophets of old.

        "The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in."
        "the light of the sun shall be sevenfold,"
        'the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach of his people"
        "thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations"

        Praise the Lord, we are the Sevenfold of the Tree of Life with the instruction
        .
        September 30 at 8:27am

         

        Seven8 ‎"And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places"

        Yes Father in heaven, Praise the Lord.
        September 30 at 8:28am

         

        Seven8
        Right on fellow Brother of Old. Brother Amos.

        Amos 9:11
        In that day will >I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen,< and >close up the breaches thereof<; and >I will raise up his ruins<, and >>>I will build it >as in the days of old
        :<<<

        We do this today.

        Praise the Lord again
        .
        September 30 at 8:40am

         

        Seven8 The House of the Tree of Life! will be raised up Sevenfold.
        September 30 at 8:41am

         

        Angele Heinerikson
        Dennis you wrote
        Life where it last stood in 1stEden and we are the Sevenfold with the Sevenfold Instruction as foreseen by the prophets of old.

        The House of the Tree of Life! will be raised up Sevenfold.

         I do not get what u r saying what does the tree of life have to do with the sevenfold
        September 30 at 3:23pm

         

        Angele Heinerikson
        Also Amos

        Amos, was afflicted with a periodic form of insanity. There were considerable spells when he would find some clothing and deport himself fairly well among his fellows. During one of these lucid intervals he had gone over to Beths
        aida, where he heard the preaching of Jesus and the apostles, and at that time had become a half hearted believer in the gospel of the kingdom. But soon a stormy phase of his trouble appeared, and he fled to the tombs, where he moaned, cried out aloud, and so conducted himself as to terrorize all who chanced to meet him.

        (1696.2) 151:6.4 When Amos recognized Jesus, he fell down at his feet and exclaimed: “I know you, Jesus, but I am possessed of many devils, and I beseech that you will not torment me.” This man truly believed that his periodic mental affliction was due to the fact that, at such times, evil or unclean spirits entered into him and dominated his mind and body. His troubles were mostly emotional — his brain was not grossly diseased
        .
        September 30 at 3:36pm

         

        Seven8
        Just a familiar Seven pattern I have observed in the journey of the cities of the Tree of Life on all levels and its linked to the Urantia book.

        I believe the Journey to the cities of the Tree of Life is part of the Sevenfold Scheme.

        (430.3)
        39:2.7 4. Assistant Teachers. The assistant teachers are the helpers and associates of their fellow seraphim, the teaching counselors. >>>>They are also individually connected with the extensive educational enterprises of the local universe, especially with the sevenfold scheme of training operative on the mansion worlds of the local systems.<<<

        >>> A marvelous corps of this order of seraphim functions on Urantia for the purpose of fostering and furthering the cause of truth and righteousness.<<<

        http://www.urantia.org/en/urantia-book-standardized/paper-39-seraphic-hosts?term=sevenfold+scheme#search-jump-result-0

        Hereis a word search on the "Sevenfold" in the Urantia Book.

        http://www.urantia.org/en/search/node/%22Sevenfold%22%20type%3Abook

        Book of Enoch

        At its completion, there shall be elected the elect ones of righteousness from the eternal plant of righteousness, to whom shall be given sevenfold instruction concerning all his flock.

        http://cojs.org/cojswiki/1_Enoch_93:_Enoch%E2%80%99s_Vision_of_the_Futur
        e
        September 30 at 3:50pm

         

        Seven8 Angele, I didnt know that about Amos, when I was reading his verse I just felt respect for the guy when I posted and expressed it at the time. I didn't know about his background.
        September 30 at 3:57pm ·

         

        Angele Heinerikson Dennis also I did not know this until u talked about it, and i could not figure it out so then i read it in the UB..
        September 30 at 4:01pm

         

        Angele Heinerikson your quote on Isaiah 30:26
        is interesting
        September 30 at 4:02pm

         

        Seven8
        Oh no worries Angele, I was just looking into Enoch and I noticed these verses.

        >>>5 “Then after that at the completion of the third week a (certain) man shall be elected as the plant of the righteous judgment, and after him one (other) sha
        ll emerge as the eternal plant of righteousness.<<<<

        6 After that at the completion of the fourth week >>>>visions of the old and righteous ones shall be seen; and a law shall be made with a fence, for all the generations.<<<<<

        http://cojs.org/cojswiki/1_Enoch_93:_Enoch%E2%80%99s_Vision_of_the_Future

        Interestin
        g
        September 30 at 4:02pm

         

        Angele Heinerikson Dennis do u ever look at the clock often and the time is 11:11 or 2:22 , 3:33
        September 30 at 4:06pm

         

        Seven8
        Isaiah 30:26
        Very beautiful, we are the restorers of the Breach and because Jesus is (Enoch) "a (certain) man shall be elected as the plant of the righteous judgment" and " after him one (other) shall emerge as the eternal plant of righteou
        sness'

        Its all linked to the Tree of Life of 1stEden in my View and where the Tree of Life is so is Jesus in the physical demonstration of the Father in Heaven
        .
        September 30 at 4:07pm ·

         

        Seven8 Angele, "Dennis do u ever look at the clock often and the time is 11:11 or 2:22 , 3:33"Heaps of times and many other varied patterns. Just off the cuff glances no premeditation.
        September 30 at 4:09pm

         

        Angele Heinerikson
        my i suggest u visit theGetting the 11:11 PM wake-up calls, and the 11:11 AM reminder calls, tells you more about you than it does about the 1,111 Secondary Midwayers.

        1. You are genetically capable of 2-way contact with the 1,111 and
        other Celestials.

        2. You are prepared to be guided -- Obtain information from those who measure their IQ's in the thousands.

        3. You are fair in your dealings with others, and useful to the 1,111.

        4. You are 'ascending' in spiritual growth.

        5. I'm often told they will also need you at some distant future time, but I hardly ever get details. Getting info on the future of others is a rare thing.

        6. And most important, your Thought Adjuster (Spirit Self or God Fragment) wishes for you to get involved.
        p://board.1111angels.com
        /
        September 30 at 4:14pm

         

        Angele Heinerikson sorry ..my i suggest u visit http://board.1111angels.com/
        September 30 at 4:15pm

         

        Angele Heinerikson sorry for mixup
        September 30 at 4:15pm

         

        Angele Heinerikson u will figurer it outto join this group u must post a exp. within 24 hrs post something like u told me ".as of your saying Heaps of times and many other varied patterns. Just off the cuff glances no premeditation.ask what it means..
        September 30 at 4:20pm

         

        Seven8 Even though 1 Enoch 93 is about the history of the planet up to Jesus, I find some other interesting things in my view pointing to the Tree of Life in our day because that's the conversation and direction.
        September 30 at 4:59pm

         

        Seven8
        Beautiful

        (1318.5) 119:8.6 In the experience of descending from God to man, Michael was concomitantly experiencing the ascent from partiality of manifest ability to supremacy of finite action and finality of the liberation of his potential f
        or absonite function. Michael, a Creator Son, is a time-space creator, >>>>but Michael, a >sevenfold< Master Son<<<<, is a member of one of the divine corps constituting the Trinity Ultimate.

        http://www.urantia.org/en/urantia-book-standardized/paper-119-bestowals-christ-michael?term=Sevenfold#search-jump-result-
        0
        September 30 at 5:04pm

         

        Seven8
        I dont know, I see patterns in the events of many things and after calculation I find interesting commonalties.

        Here is a verse I was intrigued about in the Book of Enoch, you will notice a 14, a 77 pattern. The Sevens Pattern

        CHAPTER III.

        Observe and see how (in the winter) all the trees ⌈⌈seem as though they had withered and shed all their leaves, >>except >fourteen trees,< which do not lose their foliage but retain the old foliage from two to three years till the new comes.<<

        Why 14(77) trees?? what the significants of 14(77) and its a tree like in the journey of the Tree of Life, the Sevenfold Tree of Life.

        http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/boe006.ht
        m
        September 30 at 5:34pm

         

        Seven8 cool bro!
        September 30 at 5:56pm

         

        Robert Behzad Sarmast Wouldn't want to miss THAT!
        September 30 at 5:58pm

         

        Seven8 hahaha
        September 30 at 5:58pm

         

        Geoffrey Haefele Dennis, you may be intrigued to know that an amazing formatted code exists in a predetermined numerical alignment within the Bible. From the King James translation, it is said that if even one word in the Bible was changed, it would throw the entire code out of balance and would no longer exist. It is an amazing thing to see the pattern that leads everything back to truth.
        September 30 at 6:10pm

         

        Seven8 yeah its interesting, I've seen many different patterns, I've documented many things about the patterns on the run. There like dolmens, guide post landmarks.
        September 30 at 6:50pm

         

        Seven8
        I think this focus on purely the Tree of Life and Jesus is right. I think this objective clears the air of error in many ways and confirms our understanding of the past and today looking into the future, the success makes it viable looking forward!

        Gee, it would have to be a MASSIVE discovery to turn heads and be a BLOCKBUSTER that kicks of 4 more BLOCKBUSTERS including the Life and Teachings of Jesus our Sevenfold Paradise Master and Sovereign but more importantly Friend indeed
        .
        September 30 at 6:55pm

         

        Seven8 If it gets to the Life and teachings of Jesus we should become extras and things. Be all part of it. All the friends of Jesus, if we do a movie about him then he would want his friends to be involved.
        September 30 at 6:56pm

         

        Seven8 It would be fun.
        September 30 at 6:57pm

         

        Seven8 All the faith Sons of Jesus our Sovereign should be part of the Movie of the Life and Times of Jesus Christ stemming out of the Journey of the Tree of Life that would lead to the ultimate presentation/film with narration BlockBuster, path and Crescendo from the beginning and the Tree of Life.
        September 30 at 7:00pm

         

        Seven8 Praise the Lord in the Kingdom of Heaven!
        September 30 at 7:02pm
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    Sevens8 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots A rod, Stem, Branch, Roots

     Like a Tree of Life but a correction comes out of it. A normal minded correction through discovery and recognition with appreciation. Comes out of the Root!

    Jesus is the tree of Li
    f
    e for us, as in the root, the root of the Tree of Life and the core like when he pointed to himself.



    The Tree of Life for our day will come forth, it will be brought out.

     

    Isaiah 11:1 in King James Version (English Bible).
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      • Seven8 Rod would be bridging the Gap in truth and through a demonstration and the possible discovery of the Root of the Tree of Life in 1stEden would be an excellent demonstration for us today. Maybe preserved for us 34,000 years ago and with purpose.
        September 30 at 7:26am

         

        Rene Ertzinger and of what value is this speculation to mankind or yourself? What purpose would it serve?
        September 30 at 7:28am

         

        Rene Ertzinger I do agree with the insight of Jesus being the tree of life :)
        September 30 at 7:29am

         

        Seven8
        I have every faith in this spoken by Jesus.

        (1914.4) 176:2.3 In further answer to Peter’s question, Jesus said: “Why do you still look for the Son of Man to sit upon the throne of David and expect that the material dreams of the Jews will b
        e fulfilled? Have I not told you all these years that my kingdom is not of this world? The things which you now look down upon are coming to an end, but this will be a new beginning out of which the gospel of the kingdom will go to all the world and this salvation will spread to all peoples.

        >>>>And when the kingdom shall have come to its full fruition, be assured that the Father in heaven will not fail to visit you with an enlarged revelation of truth and an enhanced demonstration of righteousness,<<<<

        even as he has already bestowed upon this world him who became the prince of darkness, and then Adam, who was followed by Melchizedek, and in these days, the Son of Man.

        >>>>And so will my Father continue to manifest his mercy and show forth his love, even to this dark and evil world. So also will I, after my Father has invested me with all power and authority, continue to follow your fortunes and to guide in the affairs of the kingdom by the presence of my spirit, who shall shortly be poured out upon all flesh. Even though I shall thus be present with you in spirit, I also promise that I will sometime return to this world, where I have lived this life in the flesh and achieved the experience of simultaneously revealing God to man and leading man to God.<<<<<

        Very soon must I leave you and take up the work the Father has intrusted to my hands, but be of good courage, for I will sometime return. >>>In the meantime, my Spirit of the Truth of a universe shall comfort and guide you.<<<<

        http://www.urantia.org/en/urantia-book-standardized/paper-176-tuesday-evening-mount-olivet?term=demonstration#search-jump-result-
        0
        September 30 at 7:30am

         

        Seven8 ‎>>>>And when the kingdom shall have come to its full fruition, be assured that the Father in heaven will not fail to visit you with an enlarged revelation of truth and an enhanced demonstration of righteousness,<<<<
        September 30 at 7:30am

         

        Rene Ertzinger I would agree with that Dennis!
        September 30 at 7:31am

         

        Seven8
        ‎"and of what value is this speculation to mankind or yourself? What purpose would it serve?"

        I think it would fascinating enough for man to be curious and find spiritual treasure in a successful faith journey. Leading to an expanded revela
        tion would be inspiring for him leading to a wealth of information where he feels better about his life with a greater purpose because he can harmonise more, in greater understanding. He knows where he comes from and where he goes through his expanded experience leading from the tree of Life.

        An Edenic experience leading to the Book of Life from the Tree of Life
        .
        September 30 at 7:35am ·

         

        Seven8 This experience can Bridge the Gap between Religion and the Urantia Book plus in many other areas.
        September 30 at 7:37am ·

         

        Seven8 The Book of Life from the Tree of Life and there are names in the Book of Life in revelation perhaps the journey or the experience to the Tree of Life. That creates a gathering together of the Faith Sons of God in todays world.
        September 30 at 7:40am

         

        Seven8 ‎5 WorldWide BLOCKBUSTERS would certainly create a gathering together in TRUTH.
        September 30 at 7:41am

         

        Seven8 It would be the journey of the Tree of Life with the finale being the Life and Teachings of Jesus Sovereign our Lord.
        September 30 at 7:43am

         

        Seven8 Jesus Sovereign our Lord the Tree of Life., the Theme and the Journey! A physical and Spiritual Journey leading to the Tree of Life, Jesus
        September 30 at 7:44am

         

        Seven8 that would be his presentation, 3 hrs per expedition, 12 hrs and then a further10hrs-15hrs on his life in a teaching and life scenes in a series.
        September 30 at 7:47am ·

         

        Seven8 Lets say 25 hrs of movie quality truth revealing of the Tree of Life.
        September 30 at 7:48am ·

         

        Rene Ertzinger I'm more so looking for the eventual reinstatement of divine visible rulership here on Urantia that's something that will eventually happen.
        September 30 at 7:48am

         

        Seven8 No worries, that would just fantastic in itself but there has to be preperation, a presentation before any Sovereign arrives in the Finale.
        September 30 at 7:49am ·

         

        Rene Ertzinger Visible rulership is perhaps the greatest loss we as mankind have suffered from the consequences of the Lucifer rebellion. Things would be so very different here on Earth if we had a visible Adamic regime, and a planetary Prince (and his staff).
        September 30 at 7:50am

         

        Seven8 Things can change, I believe the planet is viable for revealing where it leads to what you say. Things will come back in truth I have all faith in that.
        September 30 at 7:51am

         

        Rene Ertzinger ‎"Preparations" -- I would think "The Urantia Book" is one first major step in that direction given that we (our humanity) tends to kill-off our Religious leaders (like Jesus) no wonder they give us a book :) pun intended.
        September 30 at 7:52am

         

        Seven8 hahaha I had a good laugh, we just refer all things to the UB.
        September 30 at 7:55am

         

        Seven8 The fact that we can express like this is very good.
        September 30 at 7:56am
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        Rene Ertzinger It's a nice and valuable process we have together "getting to know each other" and sharing our opinions and insights. I look forward to building our friendship on the values of "truth, beauty and goodness".
        September 30 at 7:58am

         

        Sevens8 Absolutely, 100% its the glue in a world of varying thoughts in the spiritual brotherhood of Man and the Fatherhood of the Father in Heaven and within us. We just want to know the truth and harmonise with it in your individual way in your daily life which you do, no doubt. being a time maker hahaha.
        September 30 at 8:01am

    Sevens8 Looking for gold fish anyone?

    Watch Djdamm's video about CARP HUGE GIANT GOLD FISH documentary on Disclose.tv

    Sevens8 Ok what about this verse, could this reflect gathering together about the black stump and perhaps roots, the Tree of Life in 1st Eden on the Acropolis. Jesus is like the Tree of Life in the metaphor, Jesus representing everlasting life.

    Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather t
    o
    gether in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

     

    ephesians 1:10 in King James Version (English Bible).
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      • Seven8
        and the next verse:

        11 In whom also we have obtained >an inheritance,< being predesignated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things >after the counsel of his own will:<

        http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Ephesians+1&ver=kj
        v

        Inheritance, the ancient places, the tree of life. inheritance from the ancient cities of the Tree of life.

        ">after the counsel of his own will:< " his own will being the Will of the Father
        .
        September 29 at 8:32pm

         

        Seven8
        and verse 9

        9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:

        Yes absolutely, the Cities of the Tree of Life in the revealing which is his good pleasure, the Father in Heav
        en. Its a massive mystery that surpasses all mysteries and includes many mysteries like the Urantia Book.
        September 29 at 8:35pm

         

        Seven8
        ‎2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. >>>3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.<<<<

        http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=John+14&ver=kjv

        In relation to the Tree of Life being of Heaven and Earth, We are gathered there and there Jesus maybe being of Heaven and Earth. The Tree of Life could be the focal point and therefore1stEden must be a focal point being the last point of contact with the Tree of Life.

        This would also include Dalamatia City and Vans Highland capital
        .
        September 29 at 8:42pm

         

        Seven8
        I got those verses from this Perry Stone Video

        But I think differently and I believe the Seven Feasts of Israel is a reflection of the Sevenfold journey that activates a major revealing through the ancient places of the Kingdom of Heaven. I
        reckon all characteristics of the Sevenfold journey is reflected in the Seven feasts of Israel! I reckon its about the Tree of Life.

        Note how he speaks of Types and Shadows.

        http://www.voe.org/Media/media-center.htm
        l
        September 29 at 8:59pm

         

        Seven8 Are we in the fullness of time heading for the Tree of Life of 1stEden? Maybe to find a black stump and roots or a root cave system in the middle ring of the Temple of adoration. Where we gather together about the things of Heaven and Earth, where the Tree of Life is, so is Jesus.
        September 29 at 9:04pm

         

        Seven8
        http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=John+14&ver=kjv

        John 14:4 >>And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.<<

        5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?


        >>6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. >>

        <<7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.<
        <
        September 29 at 9:15pm ·

         

        Seven8
        ‎>>20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.<<>> 21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and >will manifest myself to him.<<<

        and

        >>>>26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and <>bring all things to your remembrance,<<< whatsoever I have said unto you.

        27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

        http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=John+14&ver=kj
        v
        September 29 at 9:18pm

         

        Somonai UrAnid The Tree of Life was morontian. Even now, the soul of each of us is morontian, and the light body stemming from the soul is morontian. Heaven on urth is morontia on urth, and Spirit of Truth consciousness begins with morontian consciousness, or the 'lifted veil', the single eye (of Horus or the kyklopeans/cyclopeans) "Let thine eye be single".
        September 29 at 9:19pm

         

        Seven8
        Seems to have a physical element.

        (745.3) 66:4.13 These antidotal complements of the Satania life currents were derived from the fruit of the tree of life, >>>a shrub of Edentia which was sent to Urantia by the Most Highs of Norlatiadek at
        the time of Caligastia’s arrival.<<<

        >>In the days of Dalamatia this tree grew in the central courtyard of the temple of the unseen Father,<< and it was the fruit of the tree of life that enabled the material and otherwise mortal beings of the Prince’s staff to live on indefinitely as long as they had access to it.

        http://www.urantia.org/en/urantia-book-standardized/paper-66-planetary-prince-urantia?term=tree+of+life#search-jump-result-
        0
        September 29 at 9:24pm ·

         

        Seven8
        So it was a shrub that grew into a Tree cool so it could of been large with a root system.

        When the Most Highs of Edentia approved the commission of Caligastia as Planetary Prince of Urantia and those of the one hundred Jerusem citizens as
        his administrative staff, they sent to the planet, by the Melchizedeks, >>a shrub of Edentia, and >this plant grew< to be >the tree of life< on Urantia.<<

        http://www.urantia.org/en/urantia-book-standardized/paper-73-garden-eden?term=tree+of+life#search-jump-result-
        3
        September 29 at 9:27pm

         

        Seven8
        Seems to be related to electrochemical.

        (826.1) 73:6.4 >>This superplant stored up certain space-energies which were antidotal to the age-producing elements of animal existence.<<<

        >> The fruit of the tree of life was like >a superchemical s
        torage battery,< mysteriously releasing the life-extension force of the universe when eaten.<<

        mmm..">a superchemical storage battery,<
        "
        September 29 at 9:30pm

         

        Seven8
        Maybe that "a superchemical storage battery" could still be stored in a remnant that may be still there on top of the Acropolis?? in stasis, in the Stump.

        Statsis
        A state of stability, in which all forces are equal and opposing, therefore th
        ey cancel
        September 29 at 9:33pm

         

        Seven8
        Other seed fell upon the rocky places where there was little earth, and immediately it sprang up because there was no depth to the soil, but as soon as the sun shone,>>>> it withered because it had >no root< whereby to secure moisture.<<<<

        http://www.urantia.org/en/urantia-book-standardized/paper-151-tarrying-and-teaching-seaside?term=root#search-jump-result-
        0
        September 29 at 9:37pm

         

        Seven8
        ‎(1689.2) 151:1.4 “In patience have I instructed you all this time. >>>>To you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven,<<<<
        but to the undiscerning multitudes and to those who seek our destruction, from now on, >>>>the m
        ysteries of the kingdom shall be presented in parables.<<<<< And this we will do so that those who really desire to enter the kingdom may discern the meaning of the teaching and thus find salvation,

        http://www.urantia.org/en/urantia-book-standardized/paper-151-tarrying-and-teaching-seaside?term=root#search-jump-result-
        0
        September 29 at 9:39pm ·

         

        Somonai UrAnid Yeah but, it would be dead now Dennis. Are you thinking some resin from it could be used for something incredible? You know what the teachings say about the circuits in the bodies of those that were able to be nourished by the fruit of the Edentian tree.
        September 29 at 10:04pm

         

        Seven8 I dont know Somonai, it would be perhaps useless to us without that extra part to our genes.
        September 29 at 10:05pm

         

        Seven8 Just the prospect of discovering something related to the Tree of Life in 1st Eden fascinates me.
        September 29 at 10:06pm

         

        Seven8 maybe there might be something there, you never know.
        September 29 at 10:11pm
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  • Somonai UrAnid I reckon there will be submarine journeys sooner or later, like what happens with the Titanic. Behz Sarmast once said that the loss of supermortal culture since the departure of the Vanites and then the death of Adam and Eve followed by the demise of Eden has left a gaping wound in the psyche of humanity. I do not think all of humanity, but starseed feel it quite keenly.
    September 29 at 10:44pm

     

    Sevens8 I hope there is an expedition sometime in the future, I'm sure it would be good for all of us with a bit of excitement.
    September 30 at 6:21am
  • Sevens8 Revelation 22:16

    I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. >>I am the root<< and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

    September 29 at 10:17am

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      • Geoffrey Haefele Wow. Dennis, this verse and the next two following have been posted quite a bit between a few of our friends. It must be very important since it keeps popping up!
        September 29 at 3:04pm ·

         

        Rene Ertzinger Doesn't really sync with the Urantia Book at all.
        September 29 at 5:03pm

         

        Seven8 I dont know there is a whole section about Jesus' life, that's synchronisation and Jesus is the Root.
        September 29 at 6:10pm ·

         

        Seven8
        I dont know there is a whole section about Jesus' life, that's synchronisation and Jesus is the Root and we are on an jouney regarding the tree of life and its cities Rev 22 reveals much. Were else in religion is the change coming from.

        No one from I can see they are all out of sync.
        September 29 at 6:12pm ·

         

        Seven8
        Has anyone got anything to say in religion? Show me the demonstration using any kind of evidence? Islam and Christianity speak about the last prophet and his message, where is he, any religion, where is his demonstration????

        A far as Im c
        oncerned they all say the same things parroting each other. They know there will be a last message and things to complete but do they even know the catalyst or can they even demonstrate a catalyst in all the things they say??
        September 29 at 6:17pm ·

         

        Seven8 They think the last guy is going to come aand fix everything where they can sit back relax.No way, they have to widen themselves and deal with themselves and get it right because they not in synch, welll not totaly.
        September 29 at 6:21pm ·

         

        Rene Ertzinger Jesus is NOT the offspring of David and the Bright and Morning Star! That statement is total rubbish!
        September 30 at 4:26am ·

         

        Geoffrey Haefele Dear Rene, please offer your view. Perhaps many of us are missing something that was otherwise unapparent.
        September 30 at 4:28am ·

         

        Rene Ertzinger
        As the Urantia Book states: Jesus (Christ Michael) is a direct offspring of the Universal Father and the Eternal Son and The Bright & Morning Star "Gabriel" is the first born son of Michael of Nebadon and The Divine Minister.
        http://www.
        truthbook.com/index.cfm?linkID=1834

        So given that - the statement made in Revelation 22:16 is utter rubbish
        .
        September 30 at 5:49am ·

         

        Geoffrey Haefele Gee REne, I wonder which one is correct the Holy Bible, the Sword of the Spirit or is the Urantia Book correct or is there some deeper meaning. Perhaps BOTH are correct
        September 30 at 5:54am ·

         

        Rene Ertzinger
        The Urantia Book states itself to be a divine revelation directly from Celestial Beings so lets assume that it is a primary source of factual information complementing the man-made bible with all it's inaccuracies and countless mumbo-jumbo statements.
        Personally - my focus is on the UB and beyond - through the indwelling TA
        .
        September 30 at 6:01am

         

        Seven8 Way to go Rene but I wouldn't be too harsh on the authors of the Bible considering the times they lived and the BS that went on in those days. Not like our world today where we can spend time to finding things through technology and things. Since when does Man gets it 100% right in religion.
        September 30 at 6:15am

         

        Seven8 ‎"Jesus is NOT the offspring of David and the Bright and Morning Star! That statement is total rubbish!"

        Maybe not but Jesus created them all in this Universe. I don't know which is greater.
        September 30 at 6:18am

         

        Rene Ertzinger
        I'm not being too harsh I'm just speaking out-loud my own personal understandings // resulting from decades of study and research.
        The history of the materials presented via the bible (both new and old testament) // well that's a pret
        ty loaded subject matter. Thank God - we have the UB to help straighten things out // and to provide us new directions and understandings so that our minds and hearts can en-circuit to the higher morontia and spriritual realms.
        September 30 at 6:27am

         

        Geoffrey Haefele
        Dear Rene, you are a nice fellow and a real truth seeker based on your study into Urantia. I must say that your views on the Bible are archaic and tiresome. They are a simple recitation of what millions of atheists, agnostics, non-believers are promulgating.
        The truth is that the Bible is the divine word of God. As a college student 22 years ago, I spent much time refuting the Bible as well.
        What we learn, with great simplicity of thought ultimately is that the historical evidences contained in the Holy scriptures are in fact, Empirical reality. They have long since been proven.

        I am surprised to hear your aggressive tone considering the UB directly quotes over 100 Holy Bible verses word for word. The compatibility between the two works are obvious and complementary one to another. The depth and detail contained in UB make it a difficult rendering for most people to understand.
        Regardless of all this, we still must live by faith and not by sight
        .
        September 30 at 6:51am ·

         

        Seven8 Hey Rene, Im looking into the Bible from a different approach, from the perspective of the Urantia Book and my experience. Maybe there is something else underlying that Bible scholars are missing. I think its good to explore these things.
        September 30 at 6:54am ·

         

        Geoffrey Haefele It's funny to hear Mumbo Jumbo. Any objective reader with no pre-conceived notions would think that both books are "out there" based on their miraculous content. UB is way more out there than the Bible, so why reject one and not the other. Both will contain the wisdom of the ages and both indicate that humans need to return to God.
        September 30 at 7:07am ·

         

        Rene Ertzinger
        Geoffrey: "The truth is that the Bible is the divine word of God".
        Such a laughable and untrue statement.
        There is much that is good in the Bible. and I do value that which is truthful in the Bible But one should come to understand the
        history of the Bible and that the authors of the various sections are merely men // and as such - not everything stated is to be regarded as highest levels of truth.
        For example: when the Bible makes a statement such as "God's wrath" // well  that's hardly an enlightened statement about the nature of God - not exactly "the divine word of God". Or the unclear / vague story of Adam and Eve as presented in the old Testament // hardly the divine word of God
        .
        September 30 at 7:13am ·

         

        Rene Ertzinger
        Well Geoffrey // to each his own.. there are countless paths up the proverbial mountain I honor and respect your Godward path.. but I do not necessarily need to agree with your opinions. Nor do you need to agree to mine
        After-all // I
        'm sure both you & I will be much more enlightened about cosmic truths in millions/billions of years to come and the squabbles of early life here on Urantia will long then be proverbial "water under the bridge"..
        September 30 at 7:17am ·

         

        Rene Ertzinger Dennis -- I would tend to agree with you - in that - it's worth studying it from every direction // if you are spiritually driven to do so.
        September 30 at 7:18am

         

        Geoffrey Haefele Indeed. I do not disagree, just offering food for thought.
        September 30 at 7:18am ·

         

        Rene Ertzinger So Geoffrey - what do you have to say about "the Wrath of God" statements from the Bible // or the vague story of Adam and Eve???
        How is that "the divine word of God"???
        I welcome your explanation given your attack upon my opinions.
        September 30 at 7:21am ·

         

        Geoffrey Haefele
        Yes!!! Rene, man of wisdom. You chose my favourite subjects!!!
        If my references to your views as archaic and tiresome were considered an attack by you, I do owe you an apology. I consider those thoughts, as repetitious as they are, to still
        be the employment of the mindset conjured up by the 'god of this world', the prideful one.

        The story of Adam and Eve is vague isn't it? Necessarily so, in fact. Too much detailed information challenges the mind of the less intellectual ones. Indeed, much of scripture is simple and apparently lacking depth and expansiveness. During my time as an atheist, I scoffed the very subject. At the time when I experienced the supernatural, a showering of understanding and enlightenment encompassed me. It was told to me, and I argued it vociferously. The smiles directed to me the whole time were that of a relaxed character, with not a worry or a concern that I wouldn't get the message. Obstinate I remained in the midst of a supernatural occurrence that I was silent about for years and even dismissive of. I refused to believe it was even a real event.

        I was informed that the slight amount of information presented in so much Biblical text was intentional and had just enough meat, but no excess. The history was simple and easy for a child to follow.

        The God of Wrath a valiant and capable warrior who fights the nefarious princes of darkness on the behalf of His very own, the children of God, the citizens of all the earth.
        Place your child in the path of a sexual predator and murderer, and you will come out in defence of your child with the vigor and rage of a thousand men. Necessarily so. You will not stand for harm to come to your child.
        How much more would the Omni-conscious, Almighty God came to the rescue and defence of HIS very own? The answer I'm told is many
        times greater than the defence we would provide our very own children
        .
        September 30 at 10:13am

         

        Rene Ertzinger
        Geoffrey - I don't agree at all with your explanation about why the Adam & Eve story is so skewed in the old testament. My explanation is more along the lines of "an old old story passed on through generations, slowly lost and distorted - and some portion of it making it's way into the Old Testament.
        As to your explanation of "God's wrath" - being the father of 4 sons - I can appreciate your attempt to humanize God. BUT - I would totally disagree with this opinion.
        Jesus and the UB teach us that "God is pure spirit" - and pure love and it is a mistake for us to humanize his nature, his attributes and personality
        .
        September 30 at 12:48pm ·

         

        Rene Ertzinger
        Geoffrey - here's from the UB on the issue of God's wrath
        (57.7) 4:3.2 The eternal God is incapable of wrath and anger in the sense of these human emotions and as man understands such reactions. These sentiments are mean and despicable;
        they are hardly worthy of being called human, much less divine; and such attitudes are utterly foreign to the perfect nature and gracious character of the Universal Father.
        September 30 at 1:30pm

         

        Rene Ertzinger
        Geoffrey -- the impressions I receive via your statements -- is that you are operating from the perspective of a "fundamental Christian" - who but barely knows much about the teachings of the Urantia Book. And that your statements are hardly to be deemed scholarly.
        If you wish to impress upon me your opinions - then please state them in a scholarly manner with appropriate references to The Urantia Book
        .
        September 30 at 1:41pm

         

        Geoffrey Haefele
        It is always interesting that some perceive me as a fundamental Christian while others believe me to be a subversive occultist in addition to my well established roots in Hinduism. As a twelve year teacher of the deeper meanings of Urantia, many fundamental Christians do not favour my outlook as I appear to some to be a "New Ager".
        I am proud to say that I am all of these things. I can be defined under numerous humanic genres. If I were still bound by the human reigns that encumber earthlings, I might be more definable.

        I am known by many peers to be a veritable walking encyclopaedia a man of stellar intellectual profundity and learnedness. I do shun these terms out of embarrassment and because I really do not like undue attention directed toward myself. I am shy and reasonably humble for a successful man. I have only the Lord God YHWH to thank for my many gifts and blessings.

        Urantia, I know explicitly well due to my studies dating back to 1990 when I first stumbled upon the book. I was consumed with the reading and digestion of it from the start. Over the last 20 years, I have developed such an understanding of not only Urantia, but also of the more advanced and detailed works from Theosophy and Eckankar. My studies in so many varied religions have allowed me a view of the big picture. It is a view that deciphers the empirices set before us and the subversive philo-religions that seek to lead humanity astray
        .
        September 30 at 2:31pm ·

         

        Seven8 Hey Geoff, I percieve you and Rene as fellow brothers and I respect both your induvidual journies and respect what you have to say in your personal experience. I just feel we all have a very fine victory, truly within ourselves personal.
        September 30 at 3:20pm

         

        Rene Ertzinger Way to go Dennis! at least your statement is unifying and respectful of diversity in opinions.
        September 30 at 3:24pm

         

        Rene Ertzinger Good plan Dennis
        September 30 at 3:26pm ·

         

        Seven8 One day, if all works out to plan, it would be good to have physical Facebook party somewhere in the world physical, something like Oprah coming down to Aussie with her fans, paid for but without all the fan fare, just a personal gathering of friends where we could debate things and go over things after all is done.
        September 30 at 3:26pm

         

        Seven8
        For sure brother, when all is done then we gather together for conclusions of the journey and the many things that came out of it and we are all part of it from start to finish which never really finishes as we know hahaha.

        Way to go broth
        er.
        September 30 at 3:29pm

         

        Geoffrey Haefele This unity Dennis refers to exists within the children of God. There is that underlying connectivity to God that we of faith share. I do not disrespect Urantia or those who study it well and teach of it. This is what I do. Why would I dismiss your favor of Urantia when I teach people of the depth contained in Urantia weekly?
        September 30 at 3:32pm ·

         

        Rene Ertzinger hey - we'll definitely have a great party on Mansonia #1 - eh!
        September 30 at 3:33pm

         

        Geoffrey Haefele
        Rene, I do not dismiss Urantia or any other religion as incorrect , nor do I do so against the people who follow. Therefore, my comments that you perceived as an attack were not an attack at all, but rather a defence provided toward the reality of the written word of God.
        Defending the Bible is not an attack on you, and I did not dismiss your positive beliefs in Urantia. I only defended scripture and would simply ask that you look into the wide variety of groups that have discovered the long hidden truths of empiricism in the Bible.

        The railing accusation you made against the Bible were not insulting or upsetting, but rather, statements made from a very shallow understanding of what the Bible really is. We do not dismiss UB, or any other religious work as they are the provisions offered to mankind by Deity. I have not heard a reply from you concerning the questions I answered. I am very soft hearted and willing to share any insight I can
        .
        September 30 at 3:38pm

         

        Geoffrey Haefele Unity exists between us positionally as it is the reliance we have upon God that brings us to our meeting place. Let there be no divisions among us as we are of the very same lineage and have the same Father. My defense of scripture is only a call to the masses to learn of the beauty , truth , and complete acceptance that the Bible shares. Any negative views of seemingly wrong motives are miscontextualizations, and I am equipped with peaceful answers that will stir the heart to freedom and acceptance not hate or contempt.
        September 30 at 3:42pm

         

        Rene Ertzinger
        Hi Geoffrey I see the Bible as being a Religious-Historic document // or collection of religious writings. I do NOT see the Bible as being the "divine word of God" or "the written word of God"
        I see the Bible as being "man-made / writ
        ten" about God and spiritual things

        Geoffrey, I did reply to your comments you just probably overlooked or didn't understand my comments in relation to what you said
        .
        September 30 at 3:51pm

         

        Seven8 I feel it is manmade complied but by inspired people like how you would get all inspired about something and write about it or do it where its recorded but also there has been editing along the way. But I feel there are many fine threads existant in the Bible.
        September 30 at 3:54pm

         

        Rene Ertzinger
        Here's an interesting way of seeing it Geoffrey Be it the Bible, UB, any and all scriptures from any faith they are all pieces of a puzzle. As you collect and assemble the puzzle pieces and place them together, they reveal "the greater picture". So in that sense, every
        part of the puzzle is a worthy piece of the greater picture
        .
        September 30 at 3:55pm

         

        Rene Ertzinger Fully agree with you Dennis :)
        September 30 at 3:56pm

         

        Geoffrey Haefele
        I see. I now see your responses clearly. They were not visible earlier, but I do read them now. Thank you. Your perception that I am humanizing God with my rendering about God as a vigilant defender of His children is not actually a humanizing concept at all. I know that cetain areas of Urantia leave this topic open and others purport God's love as knowing no wrath or malintent.
        The understanding presented to me is that the highest Deity in Uversa does embody all 12 basic human soul channels. For it is written. "Let us make man in our own image." The defense of a child in harms way is either a Loving action or not. I believe it is Loving. We aren't humanizing God with this statement. Rather, mankind, who hold within the soul that spark of divine energy, is able to comprehend and feel the fundamental intrinsic need to protect their loved ones from death.

        Now Rene, if the notion that you protecting your children from harm is a human concept that cannot be applied to God, then that would mean that this very intent of protection is human in origin and not based on Love. Therefore, protecting your sons would then be classified as what?
        If not a loving action to defend them, what other attribute does it fall under? Meaning tell me how defense against evil lurking is not relatable to God.

        There is no love outside of the acquiescence of God. If a man loves, it is only because he relates to that divine spark of the Spirit of God indwelling the mortal
        .
        September 30 at 4:06pm

         

        Geoffrey Haefele Further, if no love is required to defend our loved ones from harm, then there can be no equal and opposite reciprocate in existence the reciprocate we refer to as sin or evil. If there is no need for love to fight to protect or defend, then there must not be any real enemy against the human race.
        September 30 at 4:08pm

         

        Rene Ertzinger
        Many animals (and some fishes and insects) protect their offspring. So that would seem a function of one of adjutant mind spirits.

        >>"Therefore, protecting your sons would then be classified as what"
        An adjutant mind function.

        Evil??? I don't use that concept anymore as it is commonly used.
        I see it more along the lines of "various levels of cosmic immaturities".
        I don't think God thinks of anything which he created directly or indirectly as Evil but more so, he would have an understanding of immaturities -- growth and experience needed to advance through immaturities.

        >>"highest Deity in Uversa does embody all 12 basic human soul channels".
        That is NOT from the Urantia Book
        .
        September 30 at 4:22pm

         

        Geoffrey Haefele
        Rene, pieces of the puzzle is correct. Now, every single book of scripture, wisdom, or otherwise are all written by man. It is humorous to me that with over 3,500 religions active in the world, the Bible is virtually the ONLY book that is diminished. Why not Bhagavad Ghita? Why not Torah? Why not any other text? Why not the Book of Mormon? So many long established religious works from the world over all agree that the aspects and qualities of God, Adam and Eve, and the like are plausible and real. The Urantia book takes a completely opposite stance to define what God does and doesn't do compared to every other holy book in existence. So, are all the historic books wrong?

        We know this verse you quoted in 57.7 is very contradictory against many other facts presented in Urantia because Jesus Himself, God incarnate, exercised anger and wrath toward the money changers in the Holy temple of Solomon. This historic document is clear as a bell. There is no disputing it. Even Urantia confirms it. If God, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit expressed anger on earth toward wrongdoing, He would express anger or discontentment toward the very same outside of the realm of earth. He reacted angrily to misappropriation we know as sin.

        Urantia is very curious with all of its differing authors because in one part it quotes the Holy Bible word for word and in another far removed section, it will turn and contradict previously established facts. This is completely apparent in the subjects of "salvation" and "atonement".
        No human or celestial has ever answered this question for me in thirteen years of asking
        .
        September 30 at 4:25pm ·

         

        Rene Ertzinger
        Geoffrey - Your example of Jesus becoming angry - well - do remember Jesus was both Man & God in one - flipping between the 2 states of being so I would believe - the human Jesus displayed anger

        The interesting issue of the material
        presented in the UB - is that the various authors of the UB are very very very old and experienced Celestial beings they of course, given their age, and exposure to cosmic realities (and to God related knowledge) // well - that puts the UB teachings in a class by itself compared to any human sources of religious/spiritual information we receive from supposed preachers/teachers, sacred books & writings, etc
        September 30 at 4:33pm

         

        Rene Ertzinger One of the things I have noted in my own studies of The UB - is that it has various celestial authors // for example, there are authors such as the Midwayers  that are relatively young and closer to humanity. Then there many authors that are ancient and hail from "close to the Source" thus the many differing levels of materials presented in the UB.
        September 30 at 4:36pm

         

        Geoffrey Haefele Exactly. Its not from UB. Many of the electorate council are postioning themselves to bring forth the Sixth epochal revelation to earth. It is being presented by the humanoid population that has descended from the realm of the Pleiades and will serve to usher in the greater knowledge base presented by the Ascended Masters of the Morontian dimension. It is scheduled to arrive on earth at the end of the year 2012. Urantia will remain but will be replaced by the new sovreign doctrine that touches every human in specificity.
        September 30 at 4:37pm

         

        Rene Ertzinger ‎>>Pleiades = Jerusem // System of Satania :)
        I've had some interesting experiences originating from the Pleiades.
        September 30 at 4:39pm

         

        Rene Ertzinger
        ‎>>the Sixth epochal revelation to earth
        not likely anytime soon!
        If you note the time-distances between epochal revelations - between the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and now the UB being the 5th
        the UB has yet to achieve it's purpose which in
        my books will take perhaps several thousands of years.

        So I wouldn't agree with anything special about 2012. Much less a 6th epochal revelation
        .
        September 30 at 4:44pm

         

        Geoffrey Haefele
        Animals do protect offspring. It is an inherent nature necesary for the cycle of life to continue to expand on Urantia. The human aspect of protection supercedes the animal kingdom's instinctual habits and follows the Spirit present within the heart of man. Rather than an adjutant response, man's effort are determined from the stirring of the feelings and emotion associated with love toward their children.

        Rene, it sounds to me, by your definition of adjutant mind spirits, that you have no inner need to love and protect your children seeing that you chose to define your own actions toward your children as that of an instictual effort as an insect. Do you understand the illogical hole you are digging here?

        You are agreeing with a clearly and demonstrably inept rendering by a celestial who refuses to identify themself in a giant book that has no practical or plausible history. This still does not mean that I dismiss Urantia, but it does indicate that the notion of God not having an ability to feel a need to protect His children is so preposterous that it is utterly mindless or subversive in its intent.

        In these many years, I have yet to hear any celestial respond to this thought from any study group or channeler anywhere in the United States. Perhaps elsewhere, but no responses here. I am very open minded to hear the logic if it were to present
        .
        September 30 at 4:47pm

         

        Rene Ertzinger
        ‎"that you have no inner need to love and protect your children" - I wouldn't tend to agree with such a statement.
        The point I was trying to make is that we as humans have inherited from the evolution of life  mammals to becoming humans,
        certain "instinctual traits and qualities" based upon the functioning of the Adjutant Mind Spirits of the Divine Minister. Even Monkeys and many types of birds show affections towards each other and are instinctually protective of their offspring.

        >>but it does indicate that the notion of God not having an ability to feel a need to protect His children

        I'm sure God - through the downwards chain of command - is involved with protecting his children (in countless ways we have little or no understandings of)

        For example, the UB talks about Edentia - the Fathers of Edentia - and their role in being involved in issues of planetary developments. Specially - politically The Melchezideks also having over-seeing powers and involvements So for example, it wouldn't surprise me - if God - through such channels has his involvements with national, political types of issues ie: World War II for example (and the outcome of that) OR // the classical Moses, liberating the enslaved Hebrew
        s
        September 30 at 5:05pm

         

        Geoffrey Haefele
        The regioanl and general commitments of Edentians and Melchizadeks are not the same as the personal intimate relationship afforded only by the Father and Son.

        I am wanting an aswer to the question as to how humans are any different than th
        e animals of lower intelligence with regard to protectin g their own. Humans learn of and exercise love God's spirit. Animals have no need to give or receive love as they are not voluntary will creatures.

        Either God has a a loving and protective nature that we humans inherit or He does not. If we are "automatic" protectors by instinct, then we , like animals have no spirit that needs to give and receive love and affection.

        The twelve attributed of spirit are embodied in the 12 disciples, the 12 apostles, and the 12 astrological signs given for our viewing guidance
        .
        September 30 at 5:17pm

         

        Rene Ertzinger ‎>Either God has a a loving and protective nature that we humans inherit or He does not.
        I would say we inherit such traits // in part through the ministry of the Adjutant Mind Spirits.
        September 30 at 5:32pm

         

        Geoffrey Haefele
        In a long way around, this is correct. Indwelling spirit in natural humans. Not incorporated with animals at this level level 5.
        These attributes I referred to earlier as God's attributes that are passed on to humans are exactly that. Th
        erefore the same energy exists in God and man.
        September 30 at 5:45pm

         

        Rene Ertzinger
        I think one of the issues worthy of mentioning - is that we as human deal so much with what I nickname "chemical love" ie - the whole mating game human interactions
        We know so very little about "Spiritual Love" - "God's Love" we
        tend to humanize God around this issue
        It wouldn't surprise if we'll be learning for eons to come - as to what God's love truly means // and how it all work
        s
        September 30 at 5:50pm

         

        Geoffrey Haefele This is true learning continually.
        Oh my I have a curious visitor who has joined me. Let us see what they want.
        September 30 at 5:56pm

         

        Geoffrey Haefele
        In answer to a prior post, Urantia, the fifth epochal revelation was delivered in spirit over 1,000 years ago. The ascended masters notable in other theology are the elders that offered the deeper insights presented in the papers. The fact that the Sixth epochal revelation is scheduled to release in the lower world in 2012 is not early, but rather right on time to attend the Uranian paradigm whereby the Beast will come forth to deceive the masses and hasten their spiritual death if they can keep people away from applying faith in God through Jesus.
        September 30 at 5:59pm

         

        Rene Ertzinger
        Interesting to hear your opinion though I have no reason to believe in it
        >>the fifith epochal revelation was delivered in spirit over 1,000 years ago

        That's not my own understandings of how the UB came about // or the timeframe it wh
        ich it all happened
        September 30 at 6:03pm

         

        Geoffrey Haefele I understand Rene. There is so much information that the authors include in theosophical scripture but not in Urantia. Keep reading and you will find that what I say here is true. I need no personal validation at al.. I was simply pointing out why the Sixth epochal will be soon approaching. Years after that(1,007) the Seventh and final epochal will result. It will detail everything in existence.
        September 30 at 6:19pm

         

        Rene Ertzinger as they say "time will tell"  the issue is of no concern to me at all.
        September 30 at 6:24pm

         

        Geoffrey Haefele Ha ha. Yes I suppose it will. Spoken like a true Venutian. Kindness is one of your strong points.
        September 30 at 6:25pm

         

        Rene Ertzinger I'm a Swiss Watchmaker by trade -- so I kind of have this knack around issues of time :) time-frames - time in any manner you might understand it.
        September 30 at 6:27pm

         

        Diane Denison I have one thing to say. No one will know Christ or Our Fathers deep love for us until we are with them. In the meantime our Thought Adjusters and my wording the Holy Spirit fills our soul with the truth. We ALL someday will actually be with the truth. Until then follow your heart and soul. Not One Book on Earth will reveal the explosion of love that you will feel when your with Christ and our Father. Do not be a robot and follow books to the tee. Hear your soul speak, open up your ears And just listen
        October 2 at 11:04pm

         

        Geoffrey Haefele
        Absolutely the truth , Diane. You have hit the bottom line. Please come and visit with me and my atheist friends who need to understand the urgency.
        Rene, A Swiss Watchmaker. Ah a wonderful craft to be gifted within. Your acute and preci
        se attention to detail carries great weight in the realm of spiritual discernment. This allows the cerebral Taurus to follow the facts while never dismissing the Love(God) which is the basis for all things.
        October 5 at 3:11am

         

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    Sevens8 Look at the verses in relation to the Tree of life in 1stEden today experience in the possibility of the roots of the tree of life still remains buried in the middle ring on the acropolis, the temple of adoration.

    Isaiah 11:1
    And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of hi
    s
    roots:


    Isaiah 11:10
    And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

     

    Bible search for root in King James Version (English)
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      • Seven8 not all verse will be relevant of the thoughts but there might be a couple.
        September 29 at 10:13am

         

        Seven8 with the thought of discovering remnants of the root of the tree of everlasting life, immortality. Is there some clues in the bible?
        September 29 at 10:19am

         

        Somonai UrAnid You wouldn't be 'grabbing at straws' would you Dennis?
        September 29 at 9:53pm
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  • Sevens8 Nah just intrigued with the verses.
    September 29 at 10:00pm

     

    Sevens8 Just looking for clues.
    September 29 at 10:01pm
  • Watch Uforeportlive's video about Disclosure UFO Nuclear Weapons Conference September 2010 Washington UFOs Alien Life Exist documentary on Disclose.tv

    Sevens8 But then again in all the speak of possible remnants of the Tree of life you have this remnant.



    They became enraged at their inability to benefit from the tree of life, and in connection with one of their internal wars, >>>the temple and the tree were both destroyed by fire;<<< only the stone wall stood until the Garde
    n
    was subsequently submerged. This was the second temple of the Father to perish.

    >>>the temple and >the tree< were both destroyed by fire;<<<





    The Tree was destroyed but what about the Root system of the Tree??

    Roots could be petrified or they could be burnt out leaving holes of as root system in the middle ring depenidng on moisture and how long the temple fire lasted.



    Another thing, there would of been waste circulating about the Tree of Life leaving the Roots moist and perhaps not burnt out when the fire stopped. Just a black stump. Eden was a very moist area to. If its a large tree I tend to think a large stump would be remaining. The Black Stump!

     

    [swf file="http://www.urantia.org/ub-media/ub-mp3/U73.mp3"] The Urantia Book Paper 73The Garden of Eden (821.1) 73:0.1 THE cultural decadence and spiritual poverty resulting from the Caligastia downfall and consequent social confusion had little effect on the physical or biologic status of the Uran
    •  
      • Seven8 I reckon there is perhaps a Black Stump and roots or evidence of root cave system burnt out. Something is there!
        September 29 at 9:37am

         

        Seven8 Hey, if its a small shrub like in your garden, don't worry about it mate!
        September 29 at 9:38am

         

        Seven8
        and this fragment in the link

        the temple and the tree were both destroyed by fire; only the stone wall stood until >>the Garden was subsequently submerged.<< This was the second temple of the Father to perish.

        >>the Garden was subsequentl
        y submerged.<< submerged for what?? for a rediscovery?
        September 29 at 9:38am

         

        Seven8 ‎2 temples we have to re-discover and thats 1st Eden and Dalamatia City.
        September 29 at 9:38am
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  • Rene Ertzinger if it served any purpose - the Celestials could always bring to Urantia a new tree of life and that could possibly happen - should an Adamic regime be re-installed on the planet. Perhaps a rehabilitated Adam & Eve.
    September 29 at 10:42am

     

    Sevens8 Thats what I was thinking to but it would be good to look for the other or the place where it was kept to see if there are signs there.
    September 29 at 6:45pm

     

  • Sevens8 Lately Ive been looking into the Aboriginal connection to the ancient places in the way myth reflection where I find strong parallels to where they foirst came from and its connection to Dalamatia City.

    I found this piece in the Urantia book which I thought it was interesting from the view that the UB speaks of the anc
    i
    ent cultures and there characteristics and in the next breath speaks of Dalamatia City and 1st Eden as if there was some fine connection from long ago.

    I was just impressd with the information given of ancient cultures and its connection or largely lack of connection to the cities of the Tree of Life in the same breath. I find it interesting that Im in this junction of the ancient culture of the local aboriginies of this area reflecting the things and on the journey from 1stEden to Dalamatia City and beyond.

     

    [swf file="http://www.urantia.org/ub-media/ub-mp3/U68.mp3"] The Urantia Book Paper 68The Dawn of Civilization (763.1) 68:0.1 THIS is the beginning of the narrative of the long, long forward struggle of the human species from a status that was little better than an animal existence, through the inte
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      • Seven8 But then it could just to have a protocol just in case. But I feel the protocol the other brothers would be interested in is a protocol with the Attitude of the Sovereign.
        September 29 at 6:53am

         

        Seven8 The fellow space brothers are friendly in my view. I think they have been with us for thousands of years, its just that they are hidden walking within there mandate. Like Jesus walked within his mandate of faith when he was on this planet.
        September 29 at 6:56am

         

        Seven8 They are not coming, they are already here for along time awaiting for us to get to a point of knowledge and understanding so they can reveal further like in today times.
        September 29 at 6:59am

         

        Seven8 BTW this planet will not blow up, it will always be preserved for ever because its Jesus Seventh Bestowal planet and that is very very important being the world of the cross, Jesus' personal planet. When people speak of this earth as uninhabitable, that will not happen just because it is Jesus' Sovereign personal planet and its experimental so anything can happen.
        September 29 at 7:04am ·

         

        Seven8 The only END that will come is the end of IGNORANCE of the masses and thats about it. But might entail a massive journey for the every person on the planet in the witness.
        September 29 at 7:06am ·

         

        Seven8 The panet seems a little touch and go with all these mad professors running around but I feel quite assured that the Universal Government of the Most High of this planet is well in hand.
        September 29 at 7:14am

         

        Seven8 here is one example of intervention

        Telegraph: Aliens are sabotaging nuclear missiles
        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/8028499/Aliens-are-sabotaging-British-and-US-nuclear-missiles-US-military-pilots-claim.html
        September 29 at 7:15am

         

        Seven8 Surely this should be a clear message to Iran Government if there will is to construct Nuclear bombs. Also a message to other states with these bombs. Not impressed with poor motives behind these bombs especially when religion is involved where it should not be in truth.
        September 29 at 7:19am

         

        Seven8 Where religion should be looking is to the Sovereign Jesus for assistance. Spiritual assistance and in knowledge to.
        September 29 at 7:25am

         

        Seven8 Everyday in leadership man has to strive better for the truth of everything so it helps his attitude in truth.
        September 29 at 7:26am

         

        Seven8 Thats why the verification of these ancient cities is important so we can establish the truth and know the truth and steer the path.
        September 29 at 7:27am

         

        Seven8
        Where religion should look into is the cities of the tree of Life, thats what the path should be where religion should look. Out of the cities of the Tree of Life will come the Healing of the Nations in verification of the truth.

        And what
        if the stump and roots of the tree of Life are buried there for us to verify. Jesus says I am the root. could he also be giving us a hint!! Is that what we have to discover makes sense to me!
        September 29 at 7:34am

         

        Seven8
        Maybe in light of this realisation, the acropolis Hill or the Temple of adoration of 1st Eden is ready to be looked into??? The possible discovery of the root system of the tree of life really depends on the size of it.

        It took two year
        s to transport the tree from the Van Highland Capital to 1st Eden so Im assuming it was large so perhaps there is a sizeable root system there, petrified perhaps or even still together slow of decay, if at all?? Underneath the initial Mud in the middle ring of the acropolis must be some Holes or something to that effect.

        Anyway I think that is the path fo religion rather than Nuclear Bombs
        .
        September 29 at 7:40am

         

        Seven8 Maybe there is some life to the Tree of Life, if a stump exists there and maybe in the right environment it could be enhanced back to life some how I dont know but maybe it would grow leaves only.
        September 29 at 7:43am

         

        Seven8 A fire doesnt necessarily destroy trees, it can destroy a temple. maybe on the outside it looks dead but internaly it might be a different story. Hard to say. Speculation
        September 29 at 7:44am

         

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  • Sevens8 Anyway I wish all the aboriginies left in Australia all the best and I hope this journey will uplift them and revitalise that vital spark of the past into the new world to come with a new vision going forward.
    September 29 at 8:58am

     

    Sevens8 Heading for a massive Dream Real Time and Reality. No worries at all! Gonna Kick Goals at the end of the day!
    September 29 at 9:00am

     

  • Sevens8 I think this is important and I tend to think something is afoot.

    Is The World Gearing Up For 1st Contact? What Do You Think? 1) we see the vatican admiting diclosure by suggesting baptism for the visitors
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      • Seven8 But then it could just to have a protocol just in case. But I feel the protocol the other brothers would be interested in is a protocol with the Attitude of the Sovereign.
        September 29 at 6:53am

         

        Seven8 The fellow space brothers are friendly in my view. I think they have been with us for thousands of years, its just that they are hidden walking within there mandate. Like Jesus walked within his mandate of faith when he was on this planet.
        September 29 at 6:56am

         

        Seven8 They are not coming, they are already here for along time awaiting for us to get to a point of knowledge and understanding so they can reveal further like in today times.
        September 29 at 6:59am

         

        Seven8 BTW this planet will not blow up, it will always be preserved for ever because its Jesus Seventh Bestowal planet and that is very very important being the world of the cross, Jesus' personal planet. When people speak of this earth as uninhabitable, that will not happen just because it is Jesus' Sovereign personal planet and its experimental so anything can happen.
        September 29 at 7:04am

         

        Seven8 The only END that will come is the end of IGNORANCE of the masses and that's about it. But might entail a massive journey for the every person on the planet in the witness.
        September 29 at 7:06am

         

        Seven8 The panet seems a little touch and go with all these mad professors running around but I feel quite assured that the Universal Government of the Most High of this planet is well in hand.
        September 29 at 7:14am

         

        Seven8 here is one example of intervention

        Telegraph: Aliens are sabotaging nuclear missiles
        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/8028499/Aliens-are-sabotaging-British-and-US-nuclear-missiles-US-military-pilots-claim.html
        September 29 at 7:15am

         

        Seven8 Surely this should be a clear message to Iran Government if there will is to construct Nuclear bombs. Also a message to other states with these bombs. Not impressed with poor motives behind these bombs especially when religion is involved where it should not be in truth.
        September 29 at 7:19am ·

         

        Seven8 Where religion should be looking is to the Sovereign Jesus for assistance. Spiritual assistance and in knowledge to.
        September 29 at 7:25am

         

        Seven8 Everyday in leadership man has to strive better for the truth of everything so it helps his attitude in truth.
        September 29 at 7:26am

         

        Seven8 That's why the verification of these ancient cities is important so we can establish the truth and know the truth and steer the path.
        September 29 at 7:27am

         

        Seven8
        Where religion should look into is the cities of the tree of Life, thats what the path should be where religion should look. Out of the cities of the Tree of Life will come the Healing of the Nations in verification of the truth.

        And what
        if the stump and roots of the tree of Life are buried there for us to verify. Jesus says I am the root. could he also be giving us a hint!! Is that what we have to discover makes sense to me!
        September 29 at 7:34am

         

        Seven8
        Maybe in light of this realisation, the acropolis Hill or the Temple of adoration of 1st Eden is ready to be looked into??? The possible discovery of the root system of the tree of life really depends on the size of it.

        It took two year
        s to transport the tree from the Van Highland Capital to 1st Eden so I'm assuming it was large so perhaps there is a sizeable root system there, petrified perhaps or even still together slow of decay, if at all?? Underneath the initial Mud in the middle ring of the acropolis must be some Holes or something to that effect.

        Anyway I think that is the path for religion rather than Nuclear Bombs
        .
        September 29 at 7:40am

         

        Seven8 Maybe there is some life to the Tree of Life, if a stump exists there and maybe in the right environment it could be enhanced back to life some how I dont know but maybe it would grow leaves only.
        September 29 at 7:43am

         

        Seven8 A fire doesnt necessarily destroy trees, it can destroy a temple. maybe on the outside it looks dead but internaly it might be a different story. Hard to say. Speculation
        September 29 at 7:44am

         

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  • Carl Joseph Marsden It's almost a foregone conclusion something of great import is on the horizon and partially showing its direction.
    September 30 at 11:00am

     

    Somonai UrAnid ‎"UFO: The Greatest Story Ever Denied" movie is due to hit the big screen soon!
    September 30 at 10:15pm

     

  • Sevens8 This is interesting,

    So easy to abuse this. How easy would it be.

    WASHINGTON - Federal law enforcement and national security officials are preparing to seek sweeping new regulations of the Internet, arguing that their ability to wiretap criminal and terrorism suspects is "going dark" as people increasingly communicate online instead of by telephone
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      • Seven8
        But then I understand how the terrorist would use the internet for communications. The only things that should given to the terrorist is the truth so he can contemplate and reconsider his current go no where direction in light of the truth revealing from the Hidden.

        That is a false world that has no standing in the Kingdom of Heaven let alone Paradise! They are all simply decieved! Utterly decieved
        !
        September 28 at 5:14pm

         

        Seven8
        The last thing the Father wants is war amoungst mankind! Full stop period! The Father in Heaven wants the Terrorist to cease operations of the terror nature, there is no future for such people despite what any says in the opposite.

        They
        cannot prove themselves nor demonstrate a thing of the truth in the witness.
        September 28 at 5:16pm

         

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  • Sevens8
    The Father in Heaven wants the Terrorist to abandon Terrorism and go new and better path that he has prepared, which is truth, beauty and goodness and learning to understand your enemy so he can become you're friend. And the most important in forgiveness with the view of a fresh start in peace and constructivity. But one must be sincere in truth!

    That is the witness that will work and good fruits will come out of that for the all families
    .
    September 28 at 5:34pm

     

    Diane Denison Also, Dennis it could be Big Brother watching what we talk about. Because to put it simple. If the US was so concerned about Terrorist, they would tighten up the Borders.. Since 911 anyone can walk through the US borders..
    October 2 at 9:53pm
  • Julie Ritchey hello!,,..i just confirmed your friend request. checked your info out first as is my custom - are you 'sevens' from truthbook forum? (not been there in a looong time - but i am 'sojourner' on truthbook forum.)

    September 28 at 9:34am

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      • Seven8 Hey Julie, it great to reconnect, it was me back then but I'm mainly on facebook now, well all the time really.
        September 28 at 10:02am

         

        Seven8 Some topics there at truthbook.com
        September 28 at 10:02am

         

        Seven8 Im going for it, still having fun and enjoyment still on the path of the ancient places.
        September 28 at 10:03am
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  • Sevens8 Spanning many other thoughts in the path, very intriguing for me.
    September 28 at 10:04am

     

    Julie Ritchey hello dennis! yes, it is indeed great to 'reconnect'. i really enjoyed your sharing of wonderments on truthbook as you made discoveries along the path - bringing those ancient places to life. your enthusiasm is as delightful as ever! ;)
    September 28 at 2:17pm
  • Seven8 I thought this was interesting, I wonder if this relates to the Ultimaton in the Urantia Book. Maybe the huddle effect of the Ultimaton!

    Fragment.
    "In some sense, it's like the particles talk to each other and they decide which way to go," explained CMS Spokesperson Guido Tonelli."There should be a dynamic mechanism th
    ere somehow giving them a preferred direction, which is not down to the trivial explanation of momentum and energy conservation. It is something which is so far not fully understood," he told BBC News.

     

    Scientists at the Large Hadron Collider say they are getting some fascinating early results as they get set to probe new areas of physics.
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      • Seven8 Ultimaton from the Urantia Book good study.

        http://www.urantia.org/en/search/node/ultimaton%20type%3Abook
        September 28 at 8:20am

         

        Seven8
        Here is an interesting fragment regarding attraction of the Ultimaton.

        (476.5) 42:6.3 >>>Ultimatons function by >mutual attraction<, responding only to the circular Paradise-gravity pull.<< Without linear-gravity response they are thus held in the universal space drift. Ultimatons are capable of >>accelerating revolutionary velocity to the point of partial antigravity behavior,<<<

        but they cannot, independent of force organizers or power directors, attain the critical escape velocity of deindividuation, return to the puissant-energy stage. In nature, Ultimaton escape the status of physical existence only when participating in the terminal disruption of a cooled-off and dying sun.

        (476.6) 42:6.4 The ultimatons, unknown on Urantia, slow down through many phases of physical activity before they attain the revolutionary-energy prerequisites to electronic organization<<. Ultimatons have >>three varieties of motion: mutual resistance to cosmic force, individual revolutions of antigravity potential,<< and the intraelectronic positions of the one hundred mutually interassociated ultimatons.

        http://www.urantia.org/en/urantia-book-standardized/paper-42-energy-mind-and-matter?term=ultimaton#search-jump-result-0

        Many clues there.

        and from the article of the post

        Fragment.
        "In some sense, it's like the particles talk to each other and they decide which way to go,
        "
        September 28 at 8:35am

         

        Seven8 Hint HINT .antigravity potential!!!! UFO antigravity!!!! mastery of the Ultimaton and they can transmute matter through Ultimaton Mastery which is something else altogether by revolution spin rate and radius from the center paradise! Anti Matter! a little different to Anti Gravity.
        September 28 at 8:38am

         

        Seven8
        The formula would have to have these 3 variables

        >>three varieties of motion: mutual resistance to cosmic force, individual revolutions of antigravity potential,<< and the intraelectronic positions of the one hundred mutually interassociated ultimatons.

        A project for the up and coming scientists who desire Anti Gravity and energy production for the good of the planet.

        Going beyond Tesla or anything else on this planet! ULTIMATON, the ULTIMATE subatomic particle related to the electron that provides for a number of things.

        Anti Gravity and Anti Matter. How Ultra and UltimateUltimaton/Ultimat
        e
        September 28 at 8:44am ·

         

        Esther Wood the most common hadrons are protons and neutrons, which are composed of quarks---particles a bit bigger than electrons, from what I've gathered. Electrons are composed of a hundred ultimatons, so I imagine that quarks must be built of ultimatons also, but probably more than 100.
        September 28 at 8:56am

         

        Seven8
        They are giving us part of the formula

        >>three varieties of motion: mutual resistance to cosmic force, individual revolutions of antigravity potential,<< and the intraelectronic positions of the one hundred mutually interassociated ultimatons

        Here is my all time formula start but I wouldn't have a clue, I'm doing this to provoke thought hahaha


        mutual resistance to cosmic force, resistance =R, cosmic force=Cf

        individual revolutions of antigravity potential, = individual revolutions=Re, antigravity potential=Ap

        the intraelectronic positions of the one hundred mutually interassociated, positions=P, number=100

        R=Cf

        Re and Ap

        P + 100

        All components needs a formula that works and identifies the Ultimaton
        .
        September 28 at 8:57am

         

        Seven8 and its relates to spin rate and radius from the centre of the huddle. Manipulation of that should give you results.
        September 28 at 8:57am

         

        Seven8
        I just saw your post Esther, you would know better than I but I was thinking maybe there might have to be a different approach as things in area seem to be a little allusive. What I was thinking assuming the UB is right and developing experiments that might give you that may result in a big way.

        Just a thought
        .
        September 28 at 9:02am

         

        Seven8 Like that formula thing I tried to piece in at least components, if a formula could be worked out for each component assuming a particular structure as projected in the UB, it might work. thereby verifying the truth because I feel this area is also related to the Father, changing matter and things. There might be another component involved which involves the spiritual. Just a thought.
        September 28 at 9:05am

         

        Seven8
        mutual resistance to cosmic force, resistance =R, cosmic force=Cf

        individual revolutions of antigravity potential, = individual revolutions=Re, antigravity potential=Ap

        the intraelectronic positions of the one hundred mutually interassociated, positions=P, number=100

        R=Cf

        Re and Ap

        P + 100

        Then you have Spin rate and Radius from the centre. There would centrifugal force in the spin rate.

        Spin rate=S and Radius = Ra and 1/2mv squared I think and Potential energy from the centre to the ultimation Ra x mass x gravity or force I think.

        S and Ra

        1/2mv squared

        Ra x mass x gravity?

        The Universe of the Ultimation or the huddle is no different to our solar system so there must be a clue in that through comparison
        .
        September 28 at 9:15am

         

        Seven8 What about spinning an electron to = the spin rate of the ultimaton outer layer whatever that could be being a threefold structure, rather than smashing the electron, isolate and spin in harmony to a resonance spin frequency perhaps.
        September 28 at 9:25am ·

         

        Seven8 Reach a harmonised spin in equilibrium and then alter the radius of the outer layer, increase the spin rate, perhaps like a UFO.
        September 28 at 9:27am

         

        Seven8 Its related to the concentric circles of the Ultimaton and Melchizedek had that same symbol which alsio beheld the great mystery of matter. i reckon.
        September 28 at 9:29am

         

        Seven8 Its part of the Paradise Mystery for us in time/space. AntiMatter and AntiGravity related to the Ultimaton and its concentric circles, 3 layers of differing spin rates at various radius in the huddle.
        September 28 at 9:32am

         

        Seven8 If a physicists works out the magic formula in the next few days using this model then we are going to ancient places all expenses paid by the science and research community. Ok deal! hahaha. Oh what a laugh!
        September 28 at 9:38am

         

        Seven8 Anyway, I will visualise the structure all day in my back thoughts at work and draw a model.
        September 28 at 9:39am

         

        Seven8 In the bag mate! well work it out in less than an hour because we have the Father supporting us, within us through our thought adjuster and our minds in creative imagination coupled with what we know seeing forward, moving forward into the great mysteries of life in this time.
        September 28 at 9:48am
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  • Seven8
    Again it will be another glorious Victory of man in truth as he walks through the Shadow of the Valley of Death but fear will NOT overtake him as he lights up the paths ahead of him in the realisation of truth and understanding walking the path of faith with the Father in Heaven.

    Man will be to inspired by the Father in Heaven to fear death, that all I know
    .
    September 28 at 9:55am

     

    Seven8 With all that negative stuff like terrorism and other fear stuff.

    All I say to fear is get yea behind me!!!

    Because Im going the Ultimate/Ultimaton way.
    September 28 at 9:59am

     

  • Seven8 Im curious about a possible connection with the Egyptians and the Aboriginals of Australia. I thought I would Look to see if there is commonality of quartz in religion in both cultures.

    Also consider the 5 creek conjunction with a Quartz stone in the middle near the Great Rock, a legend from one of the first families o
    f the Dandenongs ranges.

    .
    Nearly every ancient culture has revered Quartz. The ancients believed Quartz was actually water from the heavens that was frozen into eternal ice by the gods. In fact, the word "crystal" derives from the Greek word "krystallos" meaning "ice". Oceanic and Australian shamans spoke of Quartz as >>>>"a stone of light broken off from the celestial throne"<<<>>>.
    The Aborigines used the crystals to invoke rain,<<>> as did certain Native American tribes.<<

    In Australian Aboriginal mythology, >>>>>Quartz is the most common substance identified with their mystical substance called "maban". Maban is said to be the material from which wise men (called kara>dj<is) obtain their magical powers. During initiation ceremonies, maban is spiritually "inserted" into the body of the apprentice by the karadji.
    >>>>The Australian sky god, Daramulun, was long portrayed through art and sculpture as having a mouth full of >Quartz<, a huge phallus, and carrying a stone axe.<<<<

     

    Quartz is the most common mineral found on the face of the earth and occurs in all environments and all rock types - sedimentary, metamorphic or igneous. Its name derives from the German word "quartz", although other sources say the name is from the Saxon word "Querkluftertz", meaning "cross-vei

     

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      • Seven8 Now I would like to see if there are Egyptian records of Quartz in religion.

        Quartz was used in Statute construction in Egypt and Rose quartz was regarded by the ancient Egyptians.
        September 27 at 10:51pm

         

        Seven8
        Here is more information of Quartz and the aboriginals.

        >>>White quartz crystals are regarded as rain-stones by certain Queensland, Australia, tribes and are attached to the rain-sticks in the rain-making ceremonies.<<<>>> The people in Northern Queensland search for the white crystals in the mountains, pulverize them, and use the powder to simulate, or *be*, rain in their mimetic rain-making rite.<<<

        >>The powder is showered over the women by the men while the women hold wooden troughs over their head to keep off the "rain". <<

        >>The people of New South Wales also regard quartz crystal as a rain-stone. The >>rain-maker<< holds a fragment of it in his mouth and spits it toward the sky during the ceremony.<<

        http://truthbrigade.com/drlar/crystal/xls004.htm#quart
        z
        September 27 at 10:53pm

         

        Seven8
        ‎>>>>The ancient Egyptians held quartz sacred, and carved drinking vessels from quartz.<<>> When they drank from these cups, the water became imbued with life-giving energy. >>>They mined quartz, and along with many cultures began to carve it into jewellery and a variety of objects, both artistic and utilitarian.<<<<

        The Crystal Ball
        This unique form of quartz found by archaeologists has been found in such distant areas as Peru, Siberia,>>> Australia,<<< Chaldea, Greece, Rome, Assyria, Persia, Japan, and China. The ancient Chinese and Japanese regarded quartz as the perfect gem. The artists who carved spheres were thought to be the most capable of spiritual and artistic purity. >>>>>They considered the quartz crystal ball the heart or "essence of the dragon," symbolic of the highest powers of creation. The Chinese and Japanese shared the term sui ching for quartz, which means >"water essence,"< the source of peace and power.<<<

        http://www.psychic-reading-network.com/articles/quartz_crystals.php

        ">"water essence,"<" similar reverence to the Aborigines in relation to rainmaking
        .
        September 27 at 11:19pm

         

        Seven8
        Here is an interesting commonality in belief about the Auroras

        According to >>>>Egyptian and Aboriginal Folklore<<<, both cultures believed these Auroras (Australis in the south, Borealis in the north) to be >the Spirits of their Ancestors, and with these new arrivals from the Sun,<

        I’m guessing their arrival would have been greeted with great joy and ceremonies as they witnessed the cycle of life, with the ‘rebirth’ of these spirits back into the Earth.

        >>>This makes sense as the Aborigines themselves believe that at the point of conception two spirits enter the body, one from the Earth and one from the ‘sky’.<<

        Like the personality(earth) and later the thought adjuster(sky), the fragment of God or the Ka and Ba.

        http://www.psychic-reading-network.com/articles/quartz_crystals.ph
        p
        September 27 at 11:26pm

         

        Seven8
        Ceremonial sites
        The Aboriginies in some parts of Australia revered the Quartz stone as a "Magic Stone" The Quartz stone seems to have common reverance throughout Australia.

        http://www.newcastle.edu.au/Resources/Divisions/Academic/Library/Cultural%20Collections/pdf/dyallaug1972.pdf

        In 1971 Mr V. Wardell showed me a most interesting fistsized
        lump of white quartz which he had uncovered in the topsoil
        while clearing scrub from his property in Tirriki Roa~~~~~·
        Charlestown. One side of this lump had been broken away to
        reveal a mass of lustrous crystals, some of them an inch long ~
        and an eighth of an inch across. Such a "geode" is found only
        in vesicular lavas, the nearest examples of which would be 30
        miles away at Morna Point or Kulnura. >>>>It is highly likely that
        this geode is a "magic stone" brought to Charlestown by the
        aborigines. It is recorded by W.J. EnrightlO that the young
        men of the Worimi tribe around Port Stephens carried a piece of
        crystal in a small bag after being initiated at the Keepara
        ceremony, and several authorities<<<<<< Il ,12 consider the Awabakal natives of Lake Macquarie and those of Port Stephens to belong to the same tribe
        .
        September 27 at 11:42pm

         

        Seven8 ‎"Magic Stone", The Rainmaker Stone, The Quartz Stone in the Middle of the 5 creek conjunction in Olinda near the Great Rock, its all makes sense.
        September 27 at 11:42pm

         

        Seven8
        Here is some ancient prophecy from URU stone from the aborigines about Sky Being coming to Earth apparently, sounds famliar.

        Set 1. “The planet Mohala – 9 million people live there. It is the abode of 2 moons radiating for the god of millions”.

        Set 2. “Hail the beings of light of the planet Mohala, who with its two moons lies 300 time periods from our planet [Uru] within the great constellation of the serpent [Nim], from where tailed stars come. Temples stand upon its surface. Their flying craft have come from there to our world twice, from the abyss of space, where the people are great and live there in happiness, calculating the Sun’s movements over their land for reasons of its fertility”.

        Set 3. “From this site the planet’s orbit has been measured to a distance of 300 time periods from us. Mohala and ours >>[Uru]<<(Urantia eh!) are two worlds alike. From the abyss of space a Travelling tailed star will strike us in the first year of the Third Age”.

        http://livingjourney.wordpress.com/2010/05/27/the-aboriginal-baiame-sky-beings-and-the-mighty-men-of-renown/

        Set 4. “The Gods will come to show the way, to protect our planet. Praise Nim the Sun of millions, >>the Serpent of Light, praise him.<<(uh!) From their world to ours, from the sky to our planet to embrace and save millions. The body approaching our planet from above will break and shatter the land and great numbers of people destroyed in both hemispheres. This will occur in the Third Age as recorded on this stone”.


        Interestin
        g
        September 27 at 11:55pm

         

        Seven8
        This might be a further clue.

        The Aboriginal Tasmanians themselves are/were a unique breed, a lot smaller in stature than their mainland counterparts, with the average male ranging from 5’’5’ to 5’’10’. They peacefully co-existed for thousands of years alongside many weird and wonderful creatures such as the Tasmanian Tiger (Thylacine) and the small but powerful apex predator, the marsupial Lion (Thylacleo). They didn’t use boomerangs, didgeridoo’s or Woomera's for their spears as their isn’t the vast open plains like that of central Australia, during ceremonies they would sing their sacred Dreamtime stories to the beat of a rolled up kangaroo skin. Their diet consisted mainly of shell-fish that was gathered by the women (as it was ‘taboo’ for the males to swim in the ocean), duck and swan eggs and kangaroo that was gathered by the men.

        >>>>They mainly wrote on pieces of bark with charcoal, however they did seem to engrave concentric circles at various sites around Tasmania, the meaning of all these concentric circles has yet to be established<<<<<

        could they be reference to the ‘circle in the sky’ I saw over Tinderbox? I believe understanding the significance of this Aurora to the local people is key, is this >>the Creation Spirit at work?<< Is it part of <<<the Logos; the Divine order of the Cosmos?<<

        I believe the Egyptians had knowledge of this type of Aurora, successfully recreating it in the pyramids some 4000 years ago.

        http://www.amostunusualaurora.com/

        note the concentric circle symbols adopted by the Aborigines, the symbol of Paradise. Interesting. Coincidence about the concentric circles?
        ?
        September 28 at 12:02am
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  • Seven8 Tasmanian Andonties are mention in the Urantia Book and concentric circles being a result, mmmmmm?? Makes you think!
    September 28 at 6:04am

     

    Seven8
    I am absolutely sure there is an Hidden Aboriginal construct here that part of the mystery in the revealing of the Hidden. The mystery runs in the metaphor of many beliefs in the aboriginals culture and I believe my personal experience in the journey from ancient times, being close to these intriguing places for many years is part of it.

    I reckon the Midwayers in this operation had liaise with the local aboriginals around here over the thousands of years. I believe in faith the Midwayers are leading us in there culture to encourage us or me in the metaphor. I believe in faith, the Midwayers set this whole thing up from well over 40,000 years ago. They knew what was coming and implanted key features that we would recognise in there myths and legends in this day.

    This could been the work of the Primary Midwayers from Dalamatia City looking forward to a time to come. the end of rebellion
    !
    September 28 at 6:43am

     

  • Seven8 Carter found many weapons such as bows, arrows, throw sticks and boomerangs in the Annex of the tomb. Along with these real instruments were models. This boomerang, found in a box with several wooden ones, is one such model. Carved of ivory and capped in gold, it would be too delicate for frequent use, and the flat terminal is atypical for a boomerang.



    >>>>>The inscription refers to Tutankhamun as "the God, Lord of the Two Lands, 'Ra is the Lord of Manifestations', Beloved of Ptah, Who is South of his Wall."<<<<<



    The boomerang was used in ancient Egypt in all periods primarily to hunt fowl in the marshes. Scenes of tomb owners, about to hurl the weapon, were part of the artists' repertoire as early as the Old Kingdom (2700-2150 B.C.). A depiction of the king hunting in on the left side of the golden shrine. There, Tutankhamun stands in a papyrus skiff in the marshes, the boomerang in his right hand and captured birds in his left.

    While this scene may reflect an activity which he hoped to include in his afterlife, it is possible that the action of hunting the fowl may represent the king triumphing over the evil denizens of the marsh.



    >>The model boomerang then would have magical significance as a ritual weapon to aid Tutankhamun in overcoming the obstacles he would face in his voyage to the afterlife.<<

     

    Tut Exhibit - King Tutankhamun Exhibit, Collection: Other Items - Model Boomerang
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      • Seven8 mmmm interesting

        "the God, Lord of the Two Lands, 'Ra is the Lord of Manifestations'

        Lord of Manifestations'
        September 27 at 8:43pm

         

        SunSista This is an interesting connection - boomerangs in King Tut's tomb? Dennis, have you ever used a boomerang? It's one of those mysteries to me, how it works. Does it really come back to you or is that a myth?
        September 28 at 2:53am

         

        Seven8 Yes, I threw a boomerang once when i was a kid and it broke when it hit the ground. hahaha. But the modern boomerangs I have thrown do come back and Ive seen it on TV to. There pretty cool! The Aboriginals where quite resourceful with things.
        September 28 at 5:57am

         

  • Seven8 I think there should be a big study on the Aboriginals in relation to the Urantia Book and Dalamatia City and things. I think they have full blown descriptions of the that whole time in the myths.
    September 28 at 5:59am

     

    Seven8 I really think there is something hidden here concerning the Aboriginals and our past from the original homeland. The dreamtime world of the Sons of God and about the Sons of God that flew and made life easier for them. Good ole Bunjil! He will come again, the real Bunjil, Jesus the Sovereign who comes for the people of ancient culture, the Aboriginals. Absolutely Jesus will honour them in there part of the end times, the end of ignorance!
    September 28 at 7:02am

     

  • Seven8 I thought these facts where interesting.

    36,000 years: Egypt. "Old Egyptian writings state that their civilization learnt to build pyramids from an ancient people who once came from a great south land in the east."

    "According to the Turin Papyrus before Egypt’s first dynasty-preceding 3,000 years BCE- ‘The Followers of
    Horus ruled for 13,000 years and before them "the Gods" ruled for 20,000 years … their civilisation’s history dates back 36,000 years.

    "Cairo Times 1982: Siwa Oasis. "Archaeologists working at Fayum, near the Siwa Oasis, uncovered fossils of kangaroos and other Australian marsupials."

    "The Egyptian religious practices, zoomorphic pantheon of gods, concepts of life and rebirth, sorcery, magic and medicine all have origins in the primal culture of the First Day."

    Robert Lawlor<30,000 years: Australia (Wardaman Tribe, N.T.) "If night sky phenomena was being reflected here, ancient human culture with early astronomy might be over 30,000 years old."

     

    THE BEGINNING: "They say we have been here 60,000 years. But it is much longer. We have been here since the time before time began … All other peoples of the world come from us." Aboriginal Elder: Page 122 and back cover of "Voices of the First Day"
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      • Seven8 Seems like hard evidence of Egyptian travels to Australia.
        September 27 at 7:53pm

         

        Seven8
        seems like a long sometime ago.

        <55,000,000 years: Bundjalung Dreaming story: "The Sacred Spring." This oral account declares that "from the beginning, this land was one whole land from here to India," which was eventually separated by "just one mass of water."

        this was interesting

        400,000 years: Professor Cann was confident that "mitochondrial DNA puts the origin of Homo sapiens much further back and indicates that the Australian Aborigines arose over 400,000 years ago from two distinct lineages, far earlier than any racial type."

        Thats close to Dalamatia City and around the time of the Sangik races and there travels
        .
        September 27 at 7:55pm

         

        Seven8
        ‎"This oral account declares that "from the beginning, this land was one whole land from here to India,"

        In truth that would be right and consistent with the Urantia Book.

        The races came out of the India/Afghanistan area. It was the Secondary Sangik races is where the Australian Aborigines come from and it would be around 450,000-400,000 years ago when there migration began, IId say.
        September 27 at 8:00pm
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      • Seven8
        mmmmmm!

        According to Cairo Times, in 1982, archaeologists working at Fayum, near the Siwa Oasis uncovered fossils of kangaroos and other Australian marsupials.>>>>>>There's also the unexplained set of golded boomerangs discovered by Prof. Carter in the tomb of Tutankhamen in 1922.<<<<<
        September 27 at 8:07pm

         

        Seven8 Ok the Kangaroo fossils found in Egyptian story could be wrong?
        September 27 at 8:53pm

         

     

    books.google.com.au
    Harriet Crawford presents a scholarly and up-to-date account of the archaeology of the Arabian Gulf from c. 4500-1500 BC. She offers a new interpretation of the structure of the urban, centralized and probably literate society of the Early Dilmun period (c. 2000-1800 BC) using material from the rece
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      • Seven8 So Dilmun the City of the Rising Sun is in the Land of the Rising Sun.
        September 27 at 12:16am

         

        Seven8
        If you run on the 29N parallel Latitude line which cuts close to the Sphinx and stand in front of it. Where the Sun rises in the Horizon and draw a line for 1125 miles or 1810 kilometres you should hit the most Northern part of the Dilmun/Babel. The Northern part of the city of Dilmun is Rectangular and walled jutting out into the North surrounded by low lands and swamp, a perfect defence from the North, on an artificial Isthmus.

        Here is an image of the Northern rectangular Wall of Dilmun.

        http://www.dalamatiacity.com/breach.jp
        g
        September 27 at 12:34am

         

        Seven8
        I dont think early Dilmun was Bahrain.

        3: Bahrein : Its Archaeology and Geography(continued)

        Before proceeding to a discussion of the relevance of other Gulf sites to our topic, it is necessary to explicate the Bahrein-Dilmun equation.

        In 1881, about 20 years after the first reading of cuneiform, there existed some half-dozen documents mentioning a land called ‘Dilmun’. Many such documents containing the names of scores of obscure lands and cities had emerged from the libraries of Assurbanipal. In 1880 Durand had found a cuneiform inscription on Bahrein. The author of the inscription described himself as “slave of the God Inzak”. In the British Museum tablet that Rawlinson had himself deciphered and published,

        >>>>>“the God Inzak was defined as the ‘God Nabu”, in other words, the principle deity - ‘of Dilmun’. And Dilmun, according to the annals of Sargon of Assyria, was the land whose ruler dwell ‘thirty double-hours away in the midst of the sea of the rising sun’.<<<<<

        Rawlinson, for what it was worth claimed that Bahrein was identical with Dilmun. We are, we must confess with Bibby, >>>>still away from knowing the exact location of Dilmun,<<<< although Bibby tens to agree with Rawlinson’s interpretation as the one best fitting the facts.

        http://arutkural.tripod.com/tolcampus/drav-african.htm

        So we know Dilmun is in the Sea of the Rising Sun and therefore must be the city of the Rising Sun
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        September 27 at 12:46am

         

        Seven8 I wonder if Nabu has relation to NOG the God of False Light that came from fallen Dalamatia City.

        >>>>>“the God Inzak was defined as the ‘God Nabu”, in other words, the principle deity - ‘of Dilmun’. And Dilmun
        September 27 at 12:48am

         

        Seven8
        Ok what about the Sphinx does that reveal clues about the Rising Sun.

        "Facing due east, the Sphinx is aligned with the rising sun each morning, and later Egyptian rulers worshipped it as an aspect of the sun god,"

        http://www.amazeingart.com/seven-wonders/sphinx.html
        September 27 at 12:50am

         

        Seven8
        Now the Bible speaks of the Sphinx as a monument and a witness at the border, a witness to what?

        A witness of discovery of the Mystery of Babylon/Babel? where its culture evolved from Dilmun through the Sumerians, the first Place where Babel/Babylon came from, Dilmun/Babel?
        September 27 at 12:55am

         

        Seven8 The physical mark of the rebellion!!
        September 27 at 12:56am

         

        Seven8 ‎'at the mouth of the great rivers'.  ships from Dilmun,

        I suggest to the East of the mouth of the Great Rivers.

        Bahrain have no Rivers.
        September 27 at 8:00am
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      • Seven8 Maybe the ultimately Age of Bahrain can reveal the time Dilmun flooded, it could be that the migrants from flooded Dilmun relocated and adopted "Dilmun" the name in remembrance, man being sentimental.
        September 27 at 8:04am

         

        Seven8 ‎'in the land of the rising sun' infers you would travel South down the river and the East towards the Rising Sun where you will find the City.
        September 27 at 10:10am

         

    Seven8 interesting 5 patterns in the numbers when you look at it.

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    Seven8 Here is another Chris H presentation on the Adam and Eve papers from the Urantia Book.



    Adam and Eve papers.

    http://www.perfectinghorizons.org/04-adam%20and%20eve.htm

     

    Seven8 Well, III be working and revealing on all these presentations as we go and looking back in the journey to collect information and thoughts along the way. Im sure it will be completely different and Im settling and focusing on these Features as posted in the below.

    September 26 at 9:51am

     

    Seven8 There is another triangle City to discover where the Tree of Life was kept for 150,000 years ago and that lays in Iran. The Van Highland Kingdom.

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      • Seven8 This location would be the 3rd Triangle/Circular temple city. The Tipura where the 3 cities of the Tree of Life become one in truth and verification.
        September 26 at 9:36am

         

        Seven8 All 4 presentations and expeditions are Massive and Worldwide even Universal Wide touching the Sublime and Supernal.
        September 26 at 9:47am
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  • Lily Fraser Isn't it interesting that they (meaning the US) want to incite a war with Iran? and maybe get there to erase the evidence??
    September 26 at 12:14pm

     

    Somonai UrAnid Not to erase anything Lily, but to possess it in the same way that the Western Nodites of old clamoured to possess the Tree of Life and in the same way that Egyptian things such as the obelisk in Paris were "repossessed". Important to understand that the Egyptians of today are not the descendants of the Pharaohs, and the Arabs of Iraq and Iran are not Persian.
    September 26 at 9:03pm

     

  • Seven8 This Old Album of Dalamatia City can be updated to.

    Enough writing, timelines and speaking about it. I would like to go back to the Heritages of the Ages, the beginning of my spiritual culture. 1st Eden and Dalamatia City and everyone is invited. I was speaking to a friend about documentaries and things. As I was writing, I was thinking about some titles. The Quest of the Heritage of the Ages! I wanted to see if God exists? A mans quest to find God and to know him as friend! The Test and Journey of Faith, back to the beginnings? Back to the beginnings of all time! The Quest of God! The Cities of the Tree of Life The Cities of Immortality The Quest of Truth? Seek and you shall find? Let me know what you think. Here is a link with more information http://www.dalamatiacity.com/DalamatiaGates/dalamatia_city.htm I though this was cool I wanted to see if God exists? Seek and you shall find! That puts everything to the test and represents challenge in change but what a way to do it. Through discovery and recognition that we know in the beforehand through a revelation written by God, the Father in Heaven. Great Blessings
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      • Seven8 All 3 albums can be customised into real physical expeditions and provide real opportunity for all mankind.
        September 26 at 9:16am

         

        Seven8 Totaly Vast presentation and all embracing of the Sublime and Supernal.
        September 26 at 9:17am

         

    Seven8 This album of 1st Eden can be vastly expanded especially after yesterdays thoughts in a few posts previous.

    Ive updated the 1stEden image inconjunction with the rest of the other cities in the oneness. If this was taken to fullest extent I believe it would change things. However Dalamatia City, the Arattian Kingdom and Dilmun/Babel have to be verified with expeditions, walking in faith with a book in the hand and thats about it! I cant upload so here is the link http://www.dalamatiacity.com/TheTempleMount2.htm
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      • Seven8
        This albuim can be expanded to include a mystery that Chris H detected. I followed it through and was amazed. Here is the link of the post with links.

        My focus would include the possibility of dioscovering the Black Stump of the Tree of Life in the centre ring of the 3 rings on the top of the temple of adoration.

        http://www.facebook.com/Sevens8#!/Sevens8?v=wall&story_fbid=12088283130016
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        September 26 at 9:20am

         

        Seven8 Would that be amazing to discover the burnt core of the Tree of Life and its petrified root system from 1st Eden.
        September 26 at 9:22am

         

    Have you considered that the Sphinx is the remembrance of Dilmun that was destroyed from around 12,000 years ago, the right paw of the Sphinx points to Dilmun ACTUAL, submerged of the North Eastern coast of the Persian gulf. Follow the right paw of the Sphinx and there you shall find Dilmun. The Sphinxs points to the East and Dilmun is directly to the East of the Sphinx. What accompanies the Sphinx? The Pryamid, the Triangle and the Lion, they are all associated with another triangle Circle designed city submerged, the circular temple of Babel. TYhe city of Dilmun was based on the Design of Dalamatia City which was further to the South more or less. Dilmun was the city of the Rising Sun and the Great Pyramid is at the Setting of the Sun.Strong Metaphor! in the Triangle/Cricle Chevron. The closest thing we have to the Dilmun Script is the script from Jiroft, 11,000 years ago where one symbol in the script is the Triangle/Circle. All pointers and landmarks. All parts are coming together, I think I know how to approach Dalamatia City through Dilmun leading from the Sphinxs and the Great Pyramid. http://www.dalamatiacity.com/SphinxDilmun.htm
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      • Seven8 Its an old album due for expansion.
        September 26 at 9:09am

         

        Seven8
        The expedition presentation leads to Babel fulfilling the Mystery of Babel into a new understanding iof what we live in and why it is the way it is. It takes us back to the Origins of the Babel/Baalim system and the will/ideas behind the idea of Babel and its perpetuation of today.

        After this verification by lifting up the stones we go Dalamatia City the location of the Rebellion and verify the truth complete
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        September 26 at 9:25am

         

    Toni Anne Tierney Dennis thank you for your friendship..you are very handsome..have a beautiful day toni

    September 26 at 5:35am

    • Seven8 Hey no worries Toni, that was a very nice thing to say and uplifting, great blessings for you in all things. thank you
      September 26 at 8:23am

       

    Seven8 Here is the first series of the Adam and Eve presentations by Chris Halvorson, they are fabulous.



    Here is the page link for the series of presentations for Adam and Eve. I highly recommend watching them as they will provide a wide view on things.


    http://www.perfectinghorizons.org/04-adam%20and%20eve.htm

     

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      • Seven8 I reckon presentations like this from many groups such as Chris H' and including discovery and verification along the way is the way to go for the Urantia Book.
        September 25 at 9:38pm

         

        Seven8
        I believe a third expedition should be made to 1st Eden using all things previous and create a box office movie journey in a real movie with all the characters going through the whole experience and brought out in these presentations. All these presentations should be linked to the movie online as a teaching aid and connection to the Urantia Book online so people have more access to more information in there own experience.

        The 3rd expedition should include the wall, the Temple of Adoration, the Great Mound and the general area like the whole plain.

        The Movie should include the whole third expedition linking to the presentations.

        That should give the Urantia Book a good projection
        !
        September 25 at 10:34pm

         

        Seven8 The presentations can be expanded by Behzs thoughts throughout history.
        September 25 at 10:35pm

         

        Seven8 Healing of the Nations related to the "Leaves of the Tree" was interesting, II have to look into that.

        Sounds like a mystery in of itself.
        September 25 at 10:47pm

         

        Seven8
        The Bible Rev 22:2
        6. The Tree of Life

        (825.6) 73:6.1 In the center of the Garden temple Van planted the long-guarded tree of life, whose leaves were for

        >>>the “healing of the nations,”<<<< and whose fruit had so long sustained him on earth.

        Van well knew that Adam and Eve would also be dependent on this gift of Edentia for their life maintenance after they once appeared on Urantia in material form.

        and REV 22:2

        "healing of the nations" (King James Version)
        Revelation 22:2 (Read all of Revelation 22)

        In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and >>>>>"the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations."

        I note the 222 aspect in the pattern???? It would to be somthing to do with future prophecy in revelation and I believe it would have to be something related to the cities of the Tree of Life.

        >>>>>"the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations."

        http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=%22healing+of+the+nations%22&ver=kjv

        and the Urantia Book
        http://www.urantia.org/en/urantia-book-standardized/paper-73-garden-eden?term=healing+of+the+nations#search-jump-result-
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        September 25 at 10:53pm

         

        Seven8 Looks like a focal point, a triangulation of truth!!! What heals is the Truth verified and its leaves are of the cities/truth of the Tree of Life, the focal point. The beginning, the ancient cities of the Tree of Life and its revealing..Perhaps!
        September 25 at 10:55pm

         

        Seven8
        Here it is the whole chapter and a few key verses that may have relevance to the Journey from the cities of the Tree of Life.

        Its about the Coming of our Sovereign Jesus.

        Revelation 22

        Book of Revelation

        22And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

        >>2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and >>the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.<<<

        3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: 4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads. 5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

        Jesus to Come Soon
        6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.

        >>>7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.<<<

        8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. 9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. 10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. 11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. 12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

        >>13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.<<<

        >>>>14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.<<<

        15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. 16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. 17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. 18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

        20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. 21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen
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        September 25 at 11:24pm

         

        Seven8
        Praise the Lord, The Leaves are many with many branches that stem out of the core of the Tree of Life. The Leaves of Truth emanating from the branches of the Tree of Life from the Cities of the Tree of Life. The cities are a portal by the looks of it.

        The book of prophecy could be about the on the run book of the journey as well from the cities of the tree of life!!
        !
        September 25 at 11:27pm

         

        Seven8 mmmmmmmm!!!
        September 25 at 11:27pm

         

        Seven8
        This reminds me of my recent journey to Queensland and the my crescent moon and venus (bright Morning star and brilliant Evening star) observation which led to a great journey when I got back only to see it reflected in scripture following a different thread of throught.

        "16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am >>the root<< and the offspring of David, and >>the bright and morning star.<<"

        "The root" of the Tree of Life and "the offspring of it", David is the metaphor of the Offspring of the Tree of Life) being a Paradise Son Jesus Sovereign. Its the thing (The root and the branches and leaves of the tree of life) that gives power to the Spiritual Sons of David in the End times in my view.

        http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Revelation+22&ver=kjv

        I note interesting verses in the Seven pattern
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        September 25 at 11:41pm

         

        Seven8
        The core of the Tree of Life was left there because its connected to the witness in the End times of ignorance where the leaves in the message will come from precisely form there, the core, 1stEden. The core and the root system would of been burnt out but there might be evidence of a small root cave system in the middle ring of the 3 co planar circles upon the Temple of Adoration in evidence of a huge Tree with a large root system that grew there.

        That would be confirming!!! The Leaves of that discovery would be Healing for the Nations and its people leading to the Urantia Book, the book of truth for the new epoch
        .
        September 25 at 11:59pm

         

        Seven8
        Maybe the the core of the Tree of life is still there considering the nature of the tree in regards to decomposition. Maybe the core of the Tree of life is still there intact but burnt out but a remnant still remains.

        Maybe thats the purpose of the core, the discovery of the core of the tree of life in the middle circle of the temple of Adoration, the Acropolis.

        The city and the tree of life.1st Eden further discovery and realisation, prophecy fulfilled! I reckon.

        The discovery of the BLACK STUMP on this side of the Epoch looking forward to a 1000 years when we recieve the first translation temple
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        September 26 at 12:10am

         

        Seven8 The Voyage to the BLACK STUMP in 1st Eden.
        September 26 at 12:11am

         

        Seven8 I wonder if its not altogether gone and inactive but preserved by its own nature understanding its anti aging/Immortal status capacities??
        September 26 at 12:13am ·

         

        Seven8 ‎4000 years later the peninsula submerged into a low oxygen, dark and cold environment self preserved?? ready for a discovery in the future!!
        September 26 at 12:17am

         

        Seven8 The Suntites and the Cutites could of still worshipped the black stump in remembrance!! that still seems to sit there inactive but was it just dormant, not decaying after fire. Self preserved in a casing of ash??
        September 26 at 12:36am

         

        Seven8 If anything you could find petrified roots and a stump or an old root cave system, you would need drilling capacity on the ROV.
        September 26 at 12:37am

         

        Seven8
        What Behz did fulfill was the discovery of the NATURAL STONE WALL as written in the Urantia Book. Its a "natural stone wall" that encompassed the Temple of Adoration. The whole area is a result of Mud Volcanoes but in the time of Adam and Eve and the Nodites they made a good position for dwellings having a natural defense capability.

        Man inhabited these places and shaped them in accordance to his purpose at that time
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        September 26 at 12:42am

         

        Seven8
        Its like with Dalamatia City not everything was destroyed. Which infers there might be something of a city that can be verified and where the Stone Slabs of the Seven commands are lifted but also other stones could be found that could interpret dealings with the Cutites and Suntites particulary in Dilmun/Babel being fellow Nodite brothers of the Suntites and the Cutites over the Ages!! Cain would would of been related to the Suntites and Cutites through progney related to Eve and Serapatatia, a Western Nodite. The first Andite..Cain

        Caintites maybe= Cutites?? which evolved to the Suntites, the Son of Caintites maybe??

        Sun and Cut Son of Cut, Son of Cain!! Sons of Caintites, Sun/Cutites, Son of Caintites of the Western Nodites. But the Sons of Cain perhaps became the Northern Nodites and invaded the original homeland of 1stEden. The homeland of Cain and blended with the Western Nodites being and evolving in various stages the Son of Caintites, the Cutites and Suntites. These places would of had connections to Dilmun/Dlimaat/Babel at the time and operational
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        September 26 at 12:57am

         

        Seven8 the Cu in the Cutites and the Cain , Canaanite connection. Maybe the origins of Canaanite, the Cutites and Suntites, Sons of Cain. Canaanite?? Cainite, Cutite, Suntite
        September 26 at 1:02am ·

         

        Seven8 Northern Nodites pre Andite Hititte,
        Hittite, Cutite, Suntite, Caintite, Canaanite..its all in the right area!
        September 26 at 1:05am

         

        Seven8
        The Elamite Nodite had friendly relations with Adam and Eve no worries but the Elamites Nodite where upstepped by the progeny of Cain and would of had quick influence over the other tribes. Doing the Bidding of his Father having good relations with Adam and Eve and having a thought adjuster. Perhaps Cain really tried to upstep things in his way.

        Maybe the Sons of Cain in Eastern Med fostered an slightly upstepped Nodite culture via the progeny of Cain, Sons of Cain, Canaanite
        .
        September 26 at 1:10am

         

        Seven8
        Another fabulous verse and a clue

        Revelation 2:7
        He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches;

        >>>>To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.<<<<

        http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=%22tree+of+life%22&ver=kjv

        Is that about the Cities of the Tree of Life via the Tree of Life?? Sounds like a match in the journey from the beginning.

        Overcoming unto Truth! and part of Paradise, the Father in Heaven. Its all encompassing operation, the Tree of Life and its cities
        .
        September 26 at 1:18am

         

        Seven8
        All interesting number pattern in the chapters and verses in a 3d kind of way.

        Revelation 22:14
        Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

        http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=%22tree+of+life%22&ver=kjv
        September 26 at 1:20am

         

        Seven8
        and these beautiful proverbs about the Tree of life and the Nature of the journey of the Tree of Life in our day. Praise the Lord Father in Heaven.

        Proverbs 3:18
        She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her.

        Proverbs 11:30
        The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise.

        Proverbs 13:12
        Hope deferred maketh the heart sick: but when the desire cometh, it is a tree of life.

        Proverbs 15:4
        A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.

        http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=%22tree+of+life%22&ver=kj
        v
        September 26 at 1:24am

         

        Seven8
        There might be a connectin clue in Isaiah looking into "the leaves" which might have metaphor to the Tree of Life. Note the Angel with Six wings , the six signature of the Beasts/Angels of the Broadcast system and also note the Coals that emante from the Throne of God where the truth is transmitted from the Throne of God(Jerusem IId say.) through the broadcast system by the Angels of the Six Wings, The 4 Beasts 6666.

        VERSE 13

        The Vision and Call of Isaiah
        Isaiah 6

        In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. 2 Above it stood the seraphims: >>>>each one had six wings;<<<<< with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly. >>>>>3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory. 4 And the posts of the door [1] moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke.<<<<<<

        5 Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; [2] because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts.

        >>6 Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar:<<
        >> 7 And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.<<<

        8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send [3] me.<<<<

        9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand [4] not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. 10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; >>>>lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.<<<

        11 Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly [5] desolate, 12 And the Lord have removed men far away, and there be a great forsaking in the midst of the land.<<<<

        >>> 13 But yet in it shall be a tenth(55), and it shall return, and shall be eaten: as a teil tree, and as an oak, whose substance is in them, >>>when they cast their leaves: so the holy seed shall be the substance thereof.<<<
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        September 26 at 1:36am

         

        Seven8
        There might be a connection clue in Isaiah 6 looking into "the leaves" which might have metaphor to the Tree of Life. Note the Angel with Six wings , the six signature of the Beasts/Angels of the Broadcast system and also note the Coals that emanate from the Throne of God where the truth is transmitted from the Throne of God (Jerusem I'd say.) through the broadcast system by the Angels of the Six Wings, The 4 Beasts of Six Wings, 6666.

        VERSE 13 intrigued me, Im wondering if that has relation to now

        ">>> 13 But yet in it shall be a tenth(55), and it shall return, interesting) and shall be eaten: as a teil tree, and as an oak, whose substance is in them, >>>when they cast their leaves: so the holy seed shall be the substance thereof.<<<<"

        anyway here is the chapter.
        http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Isaiah+6&ver=kjv

        The Vision and Call of Isaiah
        Isaiah 6

        In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. 2 Above it stood the seraphims: >>>>each one had six wings;<<<<< with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly. >>>>>3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory. 4 And the posts of the door [1] moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke.<<<<<<

        5 Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; [2] because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts.

        >>6 Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar:<<
        >> 7 And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.<<<

        8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send [3] me.<<<<

        9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand [4] not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. 10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; >>>>lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.<<<

        11 Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly [5] desolate, 12 And the Lord have removed men far away, and there be a great forsaking in the midst of the land.<<<<

        >>> 13 But yet in it shall be a tenth(55), and it shall return, and shall be eaten: as a teil tree, and as an oak, whose substance is in them, >>>when they cast their leaves: so the holy seed shall be the substance thereof.<<<<
        ..

        So the leaves are connected to the Holy seed! Holy Seed in the ultimate beside spiritual would be enhancement by the Tree of life.

        Leaves and Holy Seed, Leaves of the Tree of Life and Holy Seed, that has relation to Spiritual Seed of the Heart and Soul consistent with Jesus' message.

        "and it shall return"
        "But yet in it shall be a tenth"
        "shall be eaten: as a teil tree, and as an oak, whose substance is in them"

        The Tree of life shall return and something physical, like the leaves are eaten?
        ?
        September 26 at 1:43am

         

        Seven8
        Here is an intriguing verse from Daniel 4, I believe its about the angels of 6 wings, the beasts of the field and about the Tree of Life looking forward in the future living under the shadow of it, the shadow of the truth. He was probably experiencing the end time experience looking forward and recording it.

        They thought he was mad eh! hahaha! beside himself!

        Daniel
        12 The >>leaves thereof were fair, and the fruit thereof much<<, and in it >>was meat for all: the beasts of the field had shadow under it, and the fowls of the heaven dwelt in the boughs thereof, and all flesh was fed of it.<<

        http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Daniel+4&ver=kjv

        and check this out

        http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Daniel+4&ver=kjv

        I think we are in the scenario and its from the Father in Heaven through the Watchers, the Midwayers of Dalmatia City and the Arratian Kingdom. Its all about the Root of the Tree of Life, The ROOT perhaps IN 1st EDEN that maybe still there for verification, the core of the Tree of Life could be in the middle ring of the 3 co planar circles on the top of the Temple of adoration in 1stEden.

        Daniel 4:13
        >>>13 I saw in the visions of my head upon my bed, and, behold, a watcher and an holy one came down from heaven;<<<

        >>14 He cried aloud, [3] and said thus, Hew down the tree, and cut off his branches, shake off his leaves, and scatter his fruit: let the beasts get away from under it, and the fowls from his branches:<<

        (555)>>>>>> 15 Nevertheless leave the stump of his roots in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts in the grass of the earth:<<<<<(A metaphor)

        >>>>16 Let his heart be changed from man's, and let a beast's heart be given unto him; and let >seven times< pass over him.<<<<<(Clue of the journey about the BLACK STUMP of 1stEden)

        >>>17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that >the living may know< that >>the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men,<< and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.<<<

        18 This dream I king Nebuchadnezzar have seen. Now thou, O Belteshazzar, declare the interpretation thereof, forasmuch as all the wise men of my kingdom are not able to make known unto me the interpretation: but thou art able; for the spirit of the holy gods is in thee
        .
        September 26 at 1:58am

         

        Seven8 ‎37 Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose >works are truth,< and his >ways judgment<: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase.

        http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Daniel+4&ver=kjv
        September 26 at 2:02am

         

        Seven8 Mark 13:28
        Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near:

        http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=%22leaves%22&ver=kjv
        September 26 at 2:03am

         

        Seven8
        ‎(555)>>>>>> 15 Nevertheless leave the stump of his roots in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts in the grass of the earth:<<<<<(A metaphor)

        Could be like a presentation of the verification of the root or core of the Tree of Life in 1steden, Geen fields and tender grass, people coming into the truth) Dew from Heaven, the truth and verification from 1st Eden, the experience. An experience that has brass and metal over it and that is brought out in Sevenfold Splendour. "Passes Seven times", expressed in perhaps the Sevens way, when Sevens passes over the black stump of 1stEden.

        That means I'm going to 1st Eden in physical for it to fulfill, hahah
        a
        September 26 at 2:11am

         

        Seven8 What if the Core of the Tree of Life, the Black Stump was just dormant and preserved where it was located and lifted and genetically reinvigorated and perhaps enhanced by the Master Physical Controllers where it grew only leaves and multiplied throughout the world giving some sort of healing. Just a thought
        September 26 at 2:24am

         

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    Seven8 Grand Final prediction
    Hey its Grand Final day, St Kilda Vs Collingwood in AFL FOOTBAAAAALL, I just realised it now.

    Anyway, I was just in the kitchen looking out the window wondering, when I saw one of the local young MAGPIES eating a lizard he just caught. It just occured to me that Collingwood are the Magpies and
    they might down the Saints today.

    Oh no that seems like a pityhahaha!

     

    September 25 at 3:25pm

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      • Seven8 that's a bummer prediction. hahaha!!! being a currently Luke warm Essendon supporter.. hahaha!!!
        September 25 at 3:30pm

         

        Seven8 Hey it was a draw, so much for the prediction hahaha
        September 25 at 7:43pm

         

        Diane Denison Can't win them all Mr. Dennis
        September 26 at 1:07pm

         

        Seven8 hahaha
        September 26 at 11:58pm

         

        Seven8 BTW, Collingwood won the Grand Final, the Magpie eating the lizard on the driveway. A metaphor in reflection to the winner of the Grand Final was right. hahaha
        October 2 at 10:21pm

         

        Diane Denison You are funny.. I am like a moth drawn to the light. Your light Dennis. You educate me and also entertain me
        October 2 at 10:23pm
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      • Seven8 You see Collingwood are the Magpies, St Kilda are the Saints. I barrack for Essendon, they are the Bombers but they bombed out this year. When I saw the Magpie eating the Lizard last week on the driveway on Grand Final day last week I thought of Collingwood being the Magpies winning the Grand Final.
        October 2 at 10:26pm

         

        Diane Denison I remember you posting about that poor little lizzard. See what life does to us? We have ant eating conest. Keeps are minds alert on this planet..
        October 2 at 10:28pm

         

    Seven8 Here is the last presentation of Chris Halvorson on Dalamatia, I thought it was a great presenation. He some other idea about the location of Dalamatia City, thats great. The clues Im following are the "Head Waters of the Persian Gulf" and if you draw a line from the middle Afghanistan to the SOUTH WEST you will intersect Dalamatia City, the triangle city. Also Dalamatia is South of Dilmun/Babel on the near the coast of Persia. The stones would have to be in a city.

    Also the Egyptians in my opinion got Dilmun/Babel/Dilmaat confused with Dalamatia City.

    Presentations page
    http://www.perfectinghorizons.org/02-planetary%20prince.htm

     

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      • Seven8 ‎15,000 years ago the Persian Gulf was dry with two rivers running through to the Persian Gulf Heads, (the Persian Gulf Headwaters) in those times there was much swamp land and lakes. Dilmun/Babel was located beside one of those large rivers on the Persian side of the Persian Gulf.
        September 25 at 3:14pm

         

        Seven8 I believe they even built walls and raised canals to protect their 150,000 year old city but to no avail.
        September 25 at 3:16pm

         

        Seven8 The city was a gonna due to rising sea levels and floods.
        September 25 at 3:16pm

         

        Seven8 Also Dilmun/Babel was built upon the design of Dalamatia City, the triangle/Circle chevron, that's why the symbol and design common still reflects today. They were the Cities of the Sons of God be then fallen or not and the commonality is in the design.
        September 25 at 3:39pm

         

        Seven8
        Dilmun/Babel was built upon the design of Dalamatia City, the triangle/Circle chevron, that's why the symbol and design common still reflects today. They were the Cities of the Sons of God be them fallen or not and the commonality is in the design, Vans highland capital city has the same triangle/Circle design as well.

        The Tipura where the 3 cities become one at least in design, the Triangle/Circle like what you find in the script of Jiroft near Dalamatia City, 11,000 years ago, another reflection
        .
        September 25 at 3:44pm

         

        Seven8 Chris H said that Jerusem is 15(555) light years away and 5(5) years travelling by Seraphic Transport. I thought that was interesting.
        September 25 at 4:00pm

         

        Seven8 Interesting how it took in total SEVEN years to coordinate the Melchizedeks to Jerusem and then another 5 years to this planet. That's why the decision time took "Seven Years" because of Logistics from on high.
        September 25 at 4:03pm
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      • Seven8 Interesting how it took in total SEVEN years to coordinate the Melchizedeks to Jerusem and then another 5 years to this planet. That's why the decision time took "Seven Years" because of Logistics from on high. They physically couldn't come quick enough.
        September 25 at 4:04pm

         

        Seven8 With the 144, thank of it as 12x12=144 or 12(66) x 12(66)=144

        I agree about patterns, I see them all the time.
        September 25 at 4:11pm

         

    Seven8 I was just looking at revolver maps on the front end of the website, coming up to Iran in around the Location of Dilmun/Babel, I notice this "S" symbol. Interesting in light of the proposal of the Presentation that klicks of at the Sphinx and in a straignt line where the Sun rises at the Horizonunder the Persian Gulf lays Dilmun/Babel leading to Dalamatia city!

    When I see the ."S". in Iran near Babel I see that as confirmation.

     

     
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      • Seven8 To me that is definitely a Sevenfold Sevens marker as in the "S"
        September 25 at 2:14pm

         

        Seven8 ‎"S" mark the Spot.
        September 25 at 2:17pm

         

        Seven8 From the Sphinx we go to the "S" Dilmun/Babel and lift up the Stones, the Seven Commands.
        September 25 at 2:17pm

         

        Seven8 Don't tell me the Midwayers of the all the ancient places are not doing something.
        September 25 at 2:34pm

         

        Nila Golden Why even try to understand God? ♥
        September 25 at 2:39pm

         

        Seven8 Iran is marked by the Sevenfold Sevens by the Midwayers, it has its mark on Iran and the Government cant do nothing about it as its in prophecy. Im sure the truth will come out of thier waters with one foot in the sea, the other foot on the beach and with a new book in hand as in revelation.
        September 25 at 2:41pm

         

        Seven8 ‎"Why even try to understand God? ♥'

        Because its simply fun and exciting in the thought.
        September 25 at 2:42pm

         

        Seven8 There is nothing on the planet like this for me, its all enthralling. The only other thing close is finding love.
        September 25 at 2:46pm

         

        Diane Denison I agree with you Dennis God and love is the only thing exciting on this planet.. The rest is a conveyor belt of BS
        September 25 at 2:54pm

         

        Seven8 hahaha i love that one " The rest is a conveyor belt of BS.' hahaha I know what you mean very boring, always relying on the outside short term senses in the typical mediocre way.
        September 25 at 2:55pm

         

        Diane Denison You got that right.. You can get high on God, that is a healthy high and peaceful.. People are alway chasing after nothing that matters trying to figure out why they aren't happy or just happy for a brief time.. They keep going around the mountain, round and round chasing nothing but BS.
        September 25 at 3:03pm
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      • Seven8 Diane, you are funny. I had a laugh at the BS thing. Never mind we are in nice and restful pastures of truth.
        September 25 at 3:05pm

         

        Diane Denison I retired that mountain journey wore me out..
        September 25 at 3:07pm

         

    Seven8 I note this event occurred on October 15th(555) 1996 in Oregon. Apparently this occurred in the Cascade mountains.

    This is the area, nice place
    Snoqualmie Pass
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snoqualmie_Pass


    Snoqualmie Pass is a mountain pass that carries Interstate 90 through the Cascade Range in the U.S. state of Washington. The pass summit is at an elevation of 3,022(3+2+2=7) feet (921 m(9+2+1=12[66]),
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snoqualmie_Pass

     

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      • Seven8 Why Im interested in this Event is because in 86, 87, 88 I lived right next to the Cascade Ranges in a town called Lebanon in the Willamette Valley, that's in part, where this journey began to the ancient places in its infancy.
        September 25 at 9:27am

         

        Seven8
        The Chicago, Milwaukee and St. Paul Railway completed a line through Snoqualmie Pass in 1909. The same year, an improved wagon road was also built over the pass. The Sunset Highway was opened through the pass in 1915(555 as in the 15)

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snoqualmie_Pass

        and the 9+6 in the 1996 = 15(555
        )
        September 25 at 9:30am

         

        Seven8 Snoqualmie Pass, about 60!! miles from Seattle.

        1865(6+5=11)— The first wagon train consisting of 6 wagons(6) made it over the pass traveling east to west.
        September 25 at 9:33am

         

        Seven8 After the triangulation I listened more to the story and Yuk poor dog. Doesnt sound like a good story so far. Maybe the creature simply felt threatened.
        September 25 at 9:49am

         

        Seven8 That video shot was amazing and you could tell it was authentic. Maybe that black triangle was something that the creature could stand on and move around.
        September 25 at 9:49am

         

         

        Seven8 Pity this contact worked out to be a disaster.
        September 25 at 10:12am

         

        Seven8 http://www.odisealink.com/
        September 25 at 10:13am

         

        Seven8 What happened to the anti gravity triangle skateboard??
        September 25 at 10:14am

         

        Seven8
        Incidentally this Event occurred on October, the 10th(55) Month.

        and I note

        "and one of seven(7) Gregorian months with a length of 31 days"

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October

        October (pronunciation) (help·info) is the tenth month of the year in the Gregorian Calendar and one of seven Gregorian months with a length of 31 days. The eighth month in the old Roman calendar, October retained its name (from the Latin "octo" meaning "eight") after July and August, after Julius and Augustus Caesar respectively, when the calendar was originally created by the Romans.

        Interesting numbers

        "The eighth month in the old Roman calendar"

        the 8th month as well Seven
        8
        September 25 at 11:06am

         

        Seven8
        Since I lived close to Cascade ranges further South, 10 years prior to this event, I wonder if there are some patterns that might be recognisable of Lebanon, Oregon.

        lebanon Oregon,
        Country United States
        State Oregon
        County Linn
        Incorporated 1878 Seven8 in the 18(78), (7+8)=15(555)

        According to the United States Census Bureau, the city has a total area of 5.4 square miles (14.0 km²), of which, 5.2 square miles (13.6 km²) of it is land and 0.2 square miles (0.4 km²) of it (2.96%) is water.[3]

        5.4(9) square miles (14.0 km²), 77, Sevens in the 14.0 km²
        5.2 square miles (13.6 km²)(5+2=7) and (1+3+6=10[55])
        0.2 square miles (0.4 km²)has a strong 2 pattern..222, 2+2+2=6

        Elevation 347 ft (105.8 m) .3+4+7=14(77) Sevens, like in westall 66 elevation of 21 Ellen str 55m

        ZIP code 97355.I note the 55 at the end.
        Area code(s) 541.add all (5+4+1=10(55)

        www.ci.lebanon.or.us

        Strong pattern that I recognise with consistency and beholds similar pattern to the 1996 contact event further to the North.

        It funny, I spent some time in Albany, Oregon close by to Lebanon and thought I would check the zip code.

        I note at the end of the postcode 321 aspect and the 322 or 21 and 22 pattern and along with the Lebanon zip code ending with the 55 pattern makes a clear match in the way I see things.

        97321-9732
        2
        September 25 at 11:24am

         

        Seven8
        I thought the coordinates of Lebanon was interesting, to me it beholds interesting patterns.

        Coordinates: 44°31′59″N 122°54′28″W

        If I calculate it the way I see things

        44°31′59″N, add all except 44°, 44-4-14(77)
        and
        122°54′28″W, add all 5-9-10

        interesting
        !
        September 25 at 11:32am

         

        Seven8
        Maybe plan1 didnt work but maybe there is a plan 2 which was already in the wings, in the beforehand of the Event. Could it be a prelude to an actual event contact without the such disasterous results.

        from the North West to the South East, all encompassing!.
        September 25 at 11:38am

         

        Seven8
        Coordinates: 44°31′59″N

        even in this 122°54′28″W
        I see this 5-54-1055455 add all 24, 24/2=12(66)
        and connect to
        44°31′59″N, 44-4-14(77) divide by 2 = 22-2-72227, 222 and 7, add all 13, 1+3=4.22

        add both results 22+12=34, 3+4=7Seven, Seven is the resul
        t
        September 25 at 11:48am

         

        Seven8
        and note the pattern commonality in the elevation of Snoqualmie Pass.

        Snoqualmie Pass is a mountain pass that carries Interstate 90 through the Cascade Range in the U.S. state of Washington. The pass summit is at an elevation of 3,022(3+2+2=7, seven) feet (921 m(9+2+1=12[66]),
        September 25 at 11:53am

         

        Seven8
        and again note the commonality in the elevation of Lebanon, Oregon.

        Lebanon Elevation 347 ft (105.8 m) .3+4+7=14(77) Sevens, like in Westall 66 elevation of 21 Ellen str Springvale or Vale of Springs at the Apex of the Westall 66 UFO "for the kids" triangulation, my bedroom 55 metres elevation.
        September 25 at 12:01pm

         

        Seven8 Praise the Lord in all his Sevenfold Splendour as reflected in the Book of Enoch! Right on Father in Heaven and Jesus the Great Sovereign and Creator of this Universe! Another fine day for another glorious Victory in the Father of Heaven!
        September 25 at 12:06pm

         

        Seven8
        The most wondrous Sevenfold Splendour in all of this is when I met Sandi in Lebanon, Oregon and soon after we had Dain.

        Its most interesting the bithdate seperation and the Sevens aspect of all of us in the multiple of Sevens and concerning the 5th month (5)

        Sandi is 1st May
        Dain is 7th May
        Dennis is 14th May

        Sevens and all on the 5th Mont
        h
        September 25 at 12:17pm
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      • Seven8 Concerning birth this is the realm of the Father in Paradise/Heaven concerning personality in the Kingdom of Heaven in Space/Time.
        September 25 at 12:19pm

         

        Seven8 amazing!
        September 25 at 12:20pm

         

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      • Inger Groven AmazingBUT sad too,poor Baby-baboon, lost it's mother. But it's nature in the bush. GREAT filmingwow!!!
        September 25 at 8:22am

         

        Seven8 It was a real bummer losing the baboon but amazed at the cats reaction to the Baby.
        September 25 at 1:49pm

         

        Diane Denison I agree poor baboon. It seems a built in instinct to protect babies.
        September 25 at 1:52pm

         

        Inger Groven ‎.Maybe he killed the baby later??????
        September 25 at 1:52pm

         

        Seven8 Its funny that Diane, like in Predator and Aliens hahaha
        September 25 at 1:53pm

         

        Seven8 Inger, I think the Baby died of cold. But I was impressed with the instinct of preservation of the Baby. That cat even layed down to feed the Baboon.
        September 25 at 1:54pm

         

        Inger Groven Yes, I saw that. It was amazing!!
        September 25 at 1:57pm
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      • Seven8 cool eh!
        September 25 at 1:58pm

         

        Somonai UrAnid reminded me of watching house cat play with a mouse
        September 25 at 4:13pm

         

    Seven8 The fact that we are still quarantined might explain this mysterious force not allowing us to leave this system. Maybe!

    A force in space is hindering the journey of a NASA spacecraft.
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      • Seven8 Maybe the broadcast circuits are the only way out of here, the system. Other than this system is all closed. Then again Seraphic transport are not restricted.
        September 25 at 8:21am

         

        Seven8
        Apparently according to this post Pioneer 10 is travelling 25 centimetres a day backwards.

        Stopped dead in its tracks.

        .

        "The spacecraft, which is currently 11 billion kilometres away from earth, now only travels at 25 centimetres every day, going backwards. "

        http://www.disclose.tv/forum/unknown-force-stops-pioneer-10-in-it-s-tracks-t32281.html
        .

        I could be the wall of Quarantine so we don't infect the other places considering all the defaults that have occurred on this planet and the BS that comes out of here
        .
        September 25 at 1:22pm

         

        Seven8 note 25 centimetres a day backwards 55555 and Pioneer 10(55) hahaha!
        September 25 at 1:23pm

         

        Seven8 Pioneer 10 could be verifying the Quarantine the Urantia Book speaks about.
        September 25 at 1:24pm

         

        Somonai UrAnid Maybe there is nothing for it to propel against and is merely being drawn back toward the gravitational centre of MonMatia
        September 25 at 2:43pm

         

        Seven8 That makes sense Somonai, thats an interesting thought.

        Thanks for joining in.
        September 25 at 2:50pm
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      • Rene Ertzinger From what I understand - it is hurling through space without propellant - and is probably now being drawn back in by gravity from our solar system. One probably needs "X" amount of force to exit our solar system's gravitational force before one can enter interplanetary space.
        September 26 at 6:06am

        Seven8 I find that a reasonable explanation Rene. It could be that, I wonder if there is a report to that effect.

        September 26 at 8:21am

         

    Seven8 Another circular city from 5500BC

    This series in six parts are made by Igorfrankenstein II You Tube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/igorfrankenstein2
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      • Ajay Hooda
        Dear Dennis, I think you must have read about HP Blavatsky. She hinted some possibility about some old civilizations in which ours is the latest one and before that was Atlantis which is said to be submerged in the water in Atlantic ocean, and strangely which has maximum icebergs, which might be huge structures.
        Moreover, much was known of Atlantis and was guarded in the library of Alexandria. Even all the research of one of the most wonderful mystic Pythagoras's work was also stored in that which was savaged by Arabs in 6th century.
        So she called our civilization 6th, Atlantis 5th, and there were 4 before that and what was before that no idea
        I've heard that the scientists of Manhattan project were given letters by some unknown mysterious source that this civilization is not the only one that one knows of, there have been several before this and thus they can stop constructing the same kind of weapon which might proves to be end of this civilization and many of the members resigned.
        Anyways.. .interesting articles as alway
        s
        September 25 at 6:54am

         

        Seven8 Hey Ajay, I read some of here stuff mainly online and I allways felt confused similar to my experience with the Book of Miracles. From a Urantia perspective Arkaim is easy to understand, its not Atlantis either. To me its another Adamite Nodite infused civilisation partly related to the Sons of Amadon progeny emanating out of the Van highland capital. Little different to the origins of the Egyptians.
        September 25 at 7:36am

         

        Seven8 Maybe a stop over in migration to Europe.
        September 25 at 7:37am

         

        Seven8 Maybe a stop over in migration to Europe. Probably had attachment to the Arattian Kingdom where the secondary midwayers were born.
        September 25 at 7:38am

         

        Ajay Hooda well yes, it seems ur rt., I'm confused too Too much history all pointing in all separate directions. and i somehow feel that one who knows must be laughing at all that stuff and rejoicing in his presence :P
        September 25 at 8:02am
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        Seven8
        I feel at the end of the Day AJay that its all very simple, personal religion was never meant to be confusing and complex. Just you and God walking together as friend where he is fully supportive of you in all things and all we do is simply show trust and faith spreading loving and good things.

        Thats what I reckon anyway, real simple and personal. Just like you and me speaking with each other. Just like friends! The potential in that is huge and where it leads to is utterly amazing and wondrous!

        Thats how I reckon The Father glorifies himself within you and where your personality walks in that liberty and assurance
        .
        September 25 at 8:12am

         

        Seven8 btw note how the people left Arkaim suddenly like migrating to another place to the West. It was situated at the near corner point of the Caspian See so it would been a meeting place from a number locations on the way to Europe.
        September 25 at 8:16am

    Seven8 Here is a follow up on a previous story from Colin Andrews, Strange thing!

    Here is the link, scroll to the bottom for the 3 images of the strange thing that appeared in the camera footage.

    http://www.colinandrews.net/StrangenessOnM6-England2008.html

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      • SunSista
        It's hard to say what was going on. Sounds like they were running from someone who wanted to harvest their organs and they were running to get away. The act of running out into a busy highway tells me they were trying to get away from something they were terrified of. Then one thing led to another.

        The guy who she stabbed that tried to help her was killed because she thought he was after her organs too, I suppose. When he went outside to talk (plot) with the neighbour, her mind went to a weird place and she did the unthinkable. What a messed up life! She did end up getting out of a long jail sentence really easyhard to believe!

        I guess twins share the same mind energy according to C. Halvorson. This is a perfect example of how the mind can be a really dangerous place
        .
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        Seven8 That is a strange scenario and you can actually see an unusual thing. At first I thought utter delusion but with that thing there it makes you think is there something else to it. It was like she was running from something but then again she did murder someone. What a mixed up scenario.
        September 25 at 7:27am

         

        Terry Loconsolo I ended up watching all 4 parts (12 min. each). It has stuck with me all day. It was more like alien beings of some sort. So much doesn't make sense, I don't know what to think. It reminded me of the "Outer Limits" or the "Twilight Zone". Very strange indeed.
        September 25 at 10:35am

         

        Seven8 Its all a little strange Terry, I agree. Its like a twilight zone experience but for real. In some ways its a little baffling.
        September 25 at 10:45am

         

        Seven8 Isn't it good the things we know in light of these things revealing as we go and we are not worried, we can see these things with more understanding from the spirit.
        September 25 at 10:46am ·

         

        Terry Loconsolo It felt scary and evil that's why it stuck with me all day. I'm definitely baffled.
        September 25 at 10:47am

         

        Seven8 Could be an angel trying to protect! but can only work with in limitations maybe the girls are misunderstanding the whole experience, maybe there knowledge is very incomplete with fear and without understanding. Hard to say but they seem very confused.
        September 25 at 10:49am

         

        Terry Loconsolo Yes, I was thinking also that whoever these women are; they are still lowly beings without any real power and must also learn and hopefully choose the Father.
        September 25 at 10:49am

         

        Seven8 I see a mass of confusion in the girls and no foundation of truth to keep stable.
        September 25 at 10:50am

         

        Seven8 I see a mass of confusion in the girls and no foundation of truth to keep stable. Just fly and random away thinking without purpose of any kind just to desist after desisting people.
        September 25 at 10:51am

         

        Seven8
        Maybe that thing was Cal harassing and the girls are trying to runaway from it subconsciously because in there experience, its really evil and perhaps they played around with this entity and it got serious, seriously out of hand, lost grasp of reality?? maybe!!?? Caligastia also suffers from the same fate insanity, unbalanced personality equilibrium. Similar fruits as we see in these girls.

        What we see is perhaps the end of a spiritual harassment ordeal that started as being fun and playful in the beginning that led to insanity
        .
        September 25 at 10:58am
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      • Terry Loconsolo Yes, anyone can invite the influence of Caligastia and his cohorts. There some number of beings on earth working for evil. And it seems to be true that there are beings from elsewhere who are also up to no good. It like a strange movie but really happening. Thank God for God!
        September 25 at 10:58am

         

        Seven8 Isn't that so true "Thank God for God!" so we can understand these things and be normal and functional. Sure we see things in varying ways but seeing those fruits I say along with you "Thank God for God!". Thank you Father in Heaven where I really praise him for all his blessings.

        September 25 at 11:01am

         

    Seven8 You can see this coming on stage at some time soon. I thought it was really hot!

    Watch Djdamm's video about TELSA GUITAR MAN ELECTRICITY VOLTAGE documentary on Disclose.tv

    Seven8 So how do you explain stuff like this if its not cgi.

    Watch Djdamm's video about ghost spirit entity figure footage old house documentary on Disclose.tv
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      • SunSista I'm sorry, I don't know what cgi stands for Dennis.
        September 24 at 8:49am

         

        Seven8 Computer-generated imagery through image manipulation software.

        If its not software could it be a Midwayer? but because there is very little understanding of this level they run in fear. I mean it was quite a shock to see that hoddie.
        September 24 at 9:04am

         

        Seven8
        Would a Midwayer purposely do this for a wider purpose, like being exposed worldwide through the net through these guys in there rummaging of empty houses.

        Perhaps the guys were not showing respect nor regard to those that had a life in that place and were cut off. Maybe I don't know.
        September 24 at 9:08am

         

        Seven8 Maybe a midwayer didn't take kindly to that the attitude of the guys seeing a disaster as a form of entertainment. The Midwayer perhaps revealed himself to get the guys out of the house, through a Rod of Fear in the Revealing, to get the message across for those guys to show respect perhaps. Like an attitude correction because deep down the Father in Heaven loves them and wants to steer there thoughts in a proper way for them to be success in attitude after what they saw.
        September 24 at 9:18am

         

        Seven8 I know im speculating but I am sure the United Midwayers of the Kingdom of Heaven can do this and are very capable of these things.
        September 24 at 9:20am

         

        SunSista My feeling was that it was someone human (but the neck posture was funky) occupying the vacant house. The kitchen looked like it had been recently used, but then again the picture quality was not so good, like it came from a cell phone video. It didn't look like a ghost. Midwayers are what I refer to as shadow people.the shadows and movement you see out of the corner of your eye sometimes. I don't know, don't have any real solid evidence for me to put a stake in it yet.
        September 24 at 9:20am

         

        Seven8 Fair enough Cydney, I thought that to what you weren't thinking but there would of been footsteps or noise. That's what I was trying to hear. III have to go through the video again.
        September 24 at 9:22am

         

        Seven8 Gee Cydney that what was real fear that gripped the guys, took me surprise to. however in the beginning, did one guy say he thought saw something like a girl as they approached the house? The guys never mentioned the Kitchen was lived in and the oven door was in the lounge room.
        September 24 at 9:28am

         

        Seven8 I the hoodie eyes area seem to be white on a black background and the neck is very long leaning forward but looking straight ahead. A normal human being would look at the object before walking across a door feeling invasion. The object seems to be oblivious.
        September 24 at 9:35am

         

        Seven8
        It could be CGI, in a couple of frames his body is in the middle of the doorway behind the beams but his head in front of the beams, like he is extending his head out of the door in a flashing moment as we walks by, that explains the elongated head effect.

        It appears that he walking through the wall itself and then dissapears
        .
        September 24 at 9:43am

         

        Seven8 If its not CGI I don't think that is Human but Super Human.
        September 24 at 9:43am

         

        SunSista Well, it does have a really big head compared to the body. It is pretty freaky and the kid's reaction seemed pretty legit. I think they were referring to the big mess when they first walked in, so I thought it may have been a transient person living there. Creepy. good for Halloween!
        September 24 at 10:05am

         

        Seven8
        It was quite scary, but 50/50 on whether its authentic considering the amount of CGI around.

        Thats why I like watching Chris H videos because its real, true and I enjoy relaxing listening to his perspective where I witness much within myself.
        September 24 at 10:11am
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      • SunSista I can ask Chris if Midwayers make appearances this coming Friday and tell you what he says
        September 24 at 10:28am

         

        Seven8 Hey no worries that's great, its good to get clarification on things like this because you could go to town on what could be a fraud, hard to say on this one!
        September 24 at 5:41pm

         

    Seven8 What do you think of this?? Do you think its Caligastia inspired?

    Icke Maxwell Controlled By -Evil Entities 2 51164

    Seven8 was tagged in Inger Groven's video.

    Seven8 I found this video fascinating. Note how the author calculates! No different to how do and this is first time I've seen this. Strong commonality in the way of calculation. What he related it to is very interesting and I note the 5555 aspect to.

    6th Trumpet - Prophecy Fulfilled Iraq Euphrates Cities

    http://www.zenarrow.co.nr/ 6th Trumpet - Prophecy Fulfilled Iraq Euphrates Cities. Key words, Plagues, Fire, Smoke, Brimstone, Angels, Euphrates River, Lion's Mouths, War Horses, Tails, Snakes, Idols, Sorceries, Hour, Day, Month, Year. Failed to Repent (rethink their situation and turn to righteo
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      • Seven8 I must say though, its 2010, 6 years later???
        September 22 at 10:19pm ·

         

        Seven8 This video was interesting to.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG6GdiHCUAU&feature=related
        September 22 at 10:32pm

         

        Seven8 I wonder what the Seventh Seal is attached to??
        September 22 at 10:32pm

         

        Seven8 this was interesting to.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_CZZSE0C9E&feature=related
        September 22 at 10:42pm

         

        Seven8
        If the Iraqi war was the 6th seal according to the video and the Seventh sea is something to do with Heaven. Then it could be all the expeditions to 1st Eden and including the journey to the other cities representative of Heaven.

        The Seventh Seal is also a mystery and is related to an Angel who calls the finish to the Mystery which infers that the mystery is on the run revealing. Revealing as we go in realisation but it must come to a close some where down the track.

        Does this mystery go for SEVEN years like in the time of decision in Dalamatia City and if so when did it officially start?

        Maybe with 1st Eden 2004 which makes the end around 2011, if this is right.

        Maybe the finish of the rebellion was seen at the beginning as reflected in the SEVEN years of decision time in Dalamatia City, maybe it reflects, Seven in Seven years of the Seventh Mystery today maybe
        !
        September 23 at 9:30am ·

         

        Seven8 You wont know until the end and that makes it a faith journey within the mandate of Jesus. The Last mystery would have to operate within the mandate of Faith/Jesus, that's why the Angel sounds the finish and not man as he is in the journey himself, he does not know the end until its called.
        September 23 at 9:33am

         

        Seven8 All we can do is uncover as much as we can that reflects consistency as we follow our intuition in connecting things based on recognition and realisation in the Seventh Mystery. Its designed to quicken us and make us more sensitive in truth as we uncover, im sure of that.
        September 23 at 9:36am

         

        Seven8 Man has to simply work it out and the Father, Jesus and the Angels have already laid the tracks and paths from even 500,000 years ago. They are all on our side!
        September 23 at 9:39am

         

        Seven8 Whilst its in my mind in relation to Adam and Eve there was also a Seven year period of something. Something I did note some time ago, I wonder how that fits in having both a Seven year periods and connected to both 1stEden and Dalamatia City.
        September 23 at 9:51am

         

        Seven8 BTW the Seventh Mystery is going to have Sevens throughout all of it. No doubt about that one, that is a certainty.
        September 23 at 9:55am

         

        Seven8 ‎100% mate!
        September 23 at 9:57am

         

        Seven8 yeahhhh!
        September 23 at 10:02am

         

        Seven8 To me it makes all sense.
        September 23 at 10:02am

         

        Seven8 I dont think there is anything around that would qualify for a mystery of the Seventh kind in religion that is dynamic like this. No way mate! No chance of that, that I can find anywhere.
        September 23 at 10:04am
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  • Seven8 Well, I got to go to work with a proposal in mind of landscaping a piece of Garden into a Cactus Garden with white stones.
    September 23 at 10:05am

     

    Seven8 I might put of white quartz stone in the middle in the middle of 5 way conjunction in the middle in honour to the Aboriginals that visited the Great Rock and the 5 creek/quartz stone conjunction in the Blue Dandenong Ranges above me. There myths from this area is also participant of the Great Seventh Mystery and do behold reflections of Dalamatia City. They did respect a Supreme Being called Bunjil and they were taught by the man that could fly, fly on a Fandor.

    September 23 at 10:12am
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    Seven8 Another Urgent Warning about Mother Earth from the Kogi
    Mamos.

    I wonder what they are feel is going to happen?

    Kogi Mamos second warning to Little Brothers about Mother Earth. Colin Andrews, Alan Ereira,Heart of the World.
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      • Seven8 I wonder what they feel is going to happen?
        September 22 at 9:39pm

         

        Linda Hodge I'm not really expecting them to say "it's all good!", are you?
        September 22 at 10:05pm

         

        Seven8 same with me, I reckon it would be the usual bad report.
        September 22 at 10:16pm

         

        Alan Slocum
        Hey lo. it seems Father is honest and knows all.
        With that said, My guidance is suggesting~ this now we are experiencing~ is the calm..before the storm. And the storm is coming~many have felt winds and fallen on the outskirts already.

        I'd prefer to see a big planetary group hug and cheer a rise up~wow that was a close call~and springs forth Light& Life
        ((O)
        )
        September 23 at 7:40am ·

         

        Seven8 I reckon we are to in the quiet before a storm. I agree with you fully Alan.
        September 23 at 9:59am

         

        Alan Slocum
        If then it's gonna storm, two aspects of a functioning faith born son on Urantia now, merge into one idea, intention. That is to emerge after the storm with as many as that will hear the word and act out that living truth. We may well be led through inner guidance increasingly as we are pressed into being real in a new age. At least till a Material Son and Daughter arrive.
        Light & Life will not arrive prior
        .
        September 23 at 10:56am

         

        Linda Hodge Check this out. From Abundant Hope site. Great site if you are not already familiar with it.
        http://abundanthope.net/pages/hazel/Clarity-before-Calamity.shtml
        September 23 at 11:08am

         

        Alan Slocum Hey Linda do you know this Abundant Hope source personal?
        September 23 at 1:10pm

         

        Linda Hodge Not personally, but I have followed the site for a long time. Several of their "channels" have been told that they have received their last messages before the big event to come.
        September 23 at 3:07pm

         

        Diane Denison I agree with you Allan, the calm before the storm..
        September 23 at 3:22pm

         

        Alan Slocum
        I Cant say about the others but this is most definitely not our creator son. It seems more like its to led folks to a false flag moment.
        I say just be open to trusting your love to reveal further understanding.
        Be sly as snakes and simple as doves.
        September 23 at 3:51pm

         

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      • Sasha Tams Look within for the truth, think its time for us all to share our messages and visions ,and I agree, its the calm before the storm.
        September 23 at 5:30pm

         

        Diane Denison You know it Sasha The storm is coming.
        September 23 at 5:33pm
     

    Seven8 I thought the second video down the page and all its incidentals was quite interesting. Obviously there is more to to the Mogvie in metaphor the deeper you look. For the unsuspecting you wouldn't even notice but there is certainly a subliminal message there. Whether it is the truth in ultimate truth (not man limited) is a different story.

    So, If you were not aware many of our political leaders and people held in high esteem in our society have a thing for worshiping
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      • Seven8
        The way its subliminally presented i feel exists a level of deception for the unsuspecting. In its own way it does exercise faith against fear which is right in of itself but I'm not sure about where it connects to in truth. In a way it usurps and undermines Jesus the Sovereign as he is the only one in ultimate truth that has the capability to ultimately save us from such things.

        Nothing else works
        .
        September 22 at 6:08pm

         

        Seven8 In my view I am not worried about Freemasonry at all and I am not paranoid of the Freemason people. I know the truth tracks of the Urantia Book and even through a journey to the ancient places like this can uplift Freemasonry in truth just like any religion. Actually in some ways they are closer to the truth as exhibited in the triangle/Circle symbol being the design of Dalamatia City and then Dilmun/Babel not that they know it yet.
        September 22 at 6:12pm

         

        Seven8
        In fact, I invite all of Freemasonry to go the ancient places and verify, it would be an excellent journey for Freemasonry knowing where it ultimately leads to. The journey would be an excellent revelation for them that would uplift the truth they behold and dump the inconsistencies they behold. Like the Lucifer aspects in there worship of him in some of there books.

        Anything that is demonstrated as untruth the Freemasons would turn off in attitude, just like any human with untruth. Untruth has no flavour to it, simply dead wood
        .
        September 22 at 6:18pm

         

        Seven8
        In light of truth concerning the ancient places and things still to do. Freemasonry in light of truth and the Urantia Book could tend there vine in cutting out the dead wood of there knowledge, the things that simply are inconsistent and do not work. Just like with any religion that should be tending there Vine of truth cutting out inconsistency and dead wood practices and things.

        There is line in the sand so to speak, where based upon tending to the VINE can be done. I am not speaking about revolution but revelatory uplift through physical experience like the verification of the Cities of the Tree of Life which lead to consistent truth in a dynamic way that works for man from within to without walking with the Father in Heaven personally in a more meaningful way.

        A way that truly works and fires up man in good and more peaceful way because the truth is out there and it sets man free and we can see it for our own eyes. I can read and see
        !
        September 22 at 6:26pm

         

        Diane Denison Dennis, this is wild the god Moloch is, "biblical deity to whom children were sacrificed." Somebody or something that requires a costly and painful sacrifice
        September 22 at 6:28pm

         

        Seven8 Hey Diane, I know there are very bad aspects beholden in all things if we focus on them but i feel there is opportunity today for a fresh start for everyone and everything.
        September 22 at 6:30pm

         

        Seven8 AAAhhh all that Moloch stuff is empty and beholds nothing, who is interested in anything that does not stand in light of the truth. If there is no truth man generally is not interested in.
        September 22 at 6:34pm

         

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      • Seven8 I just know that the Urantia Book and even a exploration verification journey out performs anything on the planet. Nothing comes close on this level save the Second coming.
        September 22 at 6:36pm

         

        Seven8 I really believe that the Cities of the Tree of life are designed for the Healing of the Nations. Its the spiritual balm on gradually healing wound through the Spirit of Truth, the Holy Spirit.

        September 22 at 6:41pm
     

    Seven8 Here is a cool Venus video but Im sure it would be to hot on Venus to conduct such a mission.

    Watch Brundra's video about UFO Aliens space science brundra bilderberg mystery NASA universe documentary on Disclose.tv
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      • Seven8 This is what i was observing on my last trip but the moon was more crescent and Venus was more aligned with the Moon.

        http://earthsky.org/tonight/moon-waxes-as-venus-wanes-in-september-evening-sky
        September 22 at 9:35am

         

        Seven8
        What I saw the moon was more like a crescnet cup and Venus was just above the cup.

        Like in this crop circle.

        Northdowns, nr Beckhampton., Wiltshire.
        Reported 13th August.

        http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2010/northdowns/northdowns2010a.htm
        l
        September 22 at 9:39am

         

        Seven8
        mmmmm. i wonder if there is a connection looking at this image of the crop circle. Also consider the Brilliant Evening Star/Bright Morning Star meaning attached to Venus.

        http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2010/northdowns/20100813nothdowns-01.jpg
        September 22 at 9:41am

         

        Seven8 This in the metaphor can connect to System Fathers of the Constellations and has ArchAngel connection being attached to the Brilliant Evening Star/Bright Morning Star meaning.
        September 22 at 9:44am

         

        Seven8 Its a normal event but it can have great meaning with reassurance that the Universal Fathers and the ArchAngels are present via the metaphor of the Brilliant Evening Star/Bright Morning Star meaning attached to Venus in configuration and alignment with the Crescent moon.
        September 22 at 9:49am

         

        Seven8 Like in the crop circle.
        September 22 at 9:49am

         

        Seven8
        its like the the Brilliant Evening Star/Bright Morning Star(Venus) is upheld by the Sevenfold(Crescent moon) which comes down to us on this planet all embracing.

        http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2010/northdowns/northdowns2010a.html

        image
        http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2010/northdowns/20100813nothdowns-01.jpg
        September 22 at 9:52am
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      • Seven8 If you look further into the metaphor and relate it to religion, islam should look into this because it would concern Gabriel!! the personal messenger and assistant to Jesus the Sovereign of this Universe being a Sevenfold Creator Paradise Son. I think there is much symbolism that speaks to Islam but with a wider interpretation that is deep, true and demonstrates itself.
        September 22 at 10:04am

         

        Seven8 One thing i can say that the metaphor in this DOES NOT represent death and destruction to mankind with a narrow view. It cannot support that narrow view.

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        SunSista Chris Halverson says this is gravity force. We talked about it in study group. He said the UB indicates that we do not have an accurate calculation of gravity, it off by just a bit. Might check paper 43 for details or do a word search on truthbook.com.
        September 22 at 12:38am
     

    Seven8 Another great presentation by Chris Halvorson.



    http://www.perfectinghorizons.org/videos/071102.swf

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      • Terry Loconsolo Thanks for the reminder to catch up with Perfecting Horizon archives!
        September 21 at 5:14pm

         

        Seven8 Hi Terry, I think the videos are excellent study guides, great for new readers also I have learnt and realised much myself. I thought the videos where great finds.
        September 21 at 6:58pm

         

        Terry Loconsolo I was up till 2 in the morning watching this one. For anyone interested, he does an intriguing critique on Paul McCartneys "Let it Be" and Jon Lennons "Imagine". Just amazing..
        September 22 at 2:55am

         

        John Stevens I agree Terry! I remember being at that group. It was only 1 of 2 times each year when the group met downstairs instead of upstairs. I can't remember; did Chris do the whole group on that subject?
        September 22 at 6:57am

         

        Terry Loconsolo No he pulled out the songs toward the end; the rest of the time was re: the Caligastia and the 100 choosing sides. The presentation on the songs was so fascinating and eloquent, I can't remember the first part of the study group. Thank God this stuff is recorded!
        September 22 at 2:45pm
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      • Terry Loconsolo
        And John, you talked about how John Lennon always had an edge. That was true. I was thinking today how John was wounded by his upbringing as many of us are and he just couldn't help it. But he did have love in his heart at times and he offered what he could.

        Maybe when we meet him on the Mansion worlds; he will be the first to admit he was immature and somewhat foolish as most of us are
        !
        September 22 at 2:50pm

         

        John Stevens Terry, yeah, maybe Lennon didn't grow up w/a concept of God as a loving Father, as may have been the case for many others you refer to.

        September 22 at 4:23pm
     

    Seven8 Another great presentation of Chris Halvorson.

    from

    http://www.perfectinghorizons.org/02-planetary%20prince.htm

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      • Seven8 I was intrigued by the Venus/Morning Star information and considering my Venus and Crescent Moon observations on Sept 11 in Qld and on the drive back made it more interesting realising what Venus represents in religion.
        September 20 at 8:51pm

         

        Diane Denison Thanks for posting this.
        I put it under my favourites
        September 21 at 3:54pm

         

        Seven8 Hey no worries Diane, its a really cool presentation where I realised much especially about the Bright Morning star and the Brilliant Evening star linked to Venus. Note that I was observing Venus and the crescent moon on my recent trip to QLD only to find out more during this presentation. I'm wondering if there is connection specific to this information and what I observed??
        September 21 at 7:11pm

         

        Seven8 Hey Diane, thanks for being supportive in this journey with your likes and comments, thanks mate! no worries, I hope it works out well for all of us eh!
        September 21 at 7:14pm
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      • Seven8 were gonna kick goals!
        September 21 at 7:18pm

         

        Diane Denison Your a terrific person Dennis I love your postings.
        September 22 at 6:13pm

         

    Seven8 who wants to come?

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      • Diane Denison I would love to go and visit the Sphinx and ancient days
        September 20 at 6:17pm

         

        Seven8 visit the Sphinx then follow it get onto a boat to a submerged city where the Sun arises from the Horizon, City of the Rising Sun.
        September 20 at 8:47pm

         

        Linda Hodge Let's go.
        September 20 at 8:50pm

         

        Seven8 III just book the tickets, get a boat and and some snorkles and where on our way. hahaha!
        September 20 at 8:55pm

         

        Seven8 I remember I went camping and forgot the can opener.
        September 20 at 8:56pm

         

        Linda Hodge I'll bring the can opener, and flippers.
        September 20 at 8:56pm

         

        Seven8 III get my underwater NASA maps get our bearing right and ti will be right, easy as rain!
        September 20 at 8:58pm

         

        Seven8 And well make history along the way as a by product of the trip to the water via the Sphinx.
        September 20 at 9:00pm

         

        Seven8 then we'll have a party
        September 20 at 9:00pm

         

        Seven8 should make life interesting!!!
        September 20 at 9:00pm

         

        Linda Hodge I'll bring a bottle opener as well then!
        September 20 at 9:05pm

         

        Seven8 hahaha
        September 21 at 6:31am

         

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      • Seven8 cheers
        September 21 at 8:31am

         

        Diane Denison Cheers to you Dennis!!

        September 21 at 9:30am

         

    Seven8 If you follow the line of the Sphinx/pyramid to where the Sun cuts the Horizon it will lead you to the Lost City of the Rising Sun, Dilmun/Babel submerged..DILMAAT. In turn it will solve the Monument on the border witness prophecy, the Mystery of Mysteries mystery, the Seventh Mystery and the Mystery of Babylon/Babel mystery.

    September 20 at 1:58pm

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      • Seven8 One Strike in Truth!
        September 20 at 1:58pm

         

        Seven8 In one swoop where the journey from ancient times takes all mankind on a voyage of adventure on the High Seas of truth!
        September 20 at 1:59pm

         

        Seven8 I don't you could better than that and yet within the MANDATE of faith as set by Jesus in his time here.
        September 20 at 2:01pm

         

        Seven8 What a BIG TIME Doco that would make in the witness on the voyage of faith and truth.
        September 20 at 2:04pm

         

        Seven8 Kick planetary goals mate for truth!
        September 20 at 2:05pm

         

        Seven8 Ahh it would be full points for the Father in Heaven right next to us within us in the spiritual journey of the physcial experience.
        September 20 at 2:06pm

         

        Seven8 That way the Father in Heaven and within us is glorified and with power of the truth in the experience and we experience that within us. We experience that victory in truth as we journey along together on the voyage of faith in the high seas headed towards the first cities of civilisation.
        September 20 at 2:10pm

         

        Seven8 The objective would be able to get man to the point where he can Read it and See it.

        I read and I see it and I understand it and in that I have nothing to worry about as the truth is backed up in living and everlasting truth in the witness.
        September 20 at 2:16pm

         

        Seven8 The Raising of the Dead walking the Streets in end time prophecy is the truth from ancient times walking the communication circuits of the planet. The Truth of ancient times in full view of man, walking the streets. in my view!
        September 20 at 2:37pm

         

         

        Jude Anson Dennis, these theories have peaked my interest for the longest times. I feel the connections; also, that perhaps they are part of a grid system that our ancestors may have used to communicate with one another or even to use as portals. Very interesting, indeed
        September 20 at 3:42pm

         

        Seven8 Yes, I think the thought is fascinating and what if its true and a real event as projected?? I think its very viable. Its like a science/religion project in breaking new ground from the old ground.
        September 21 at 6:35am

         

        Seven8
        To me it makes all sense especially the teaching side and how it come about. It would make complete logical sense to find a city in such a way relating to religion and the expansion of it.

        What better way for the expansion of religion of the One and only God in truth verified from the past from old and ancient ground.

        And we were there in the exchange of thoughts being part of a potentially huge ground breaking discovery in verification all led by faith and the word
        .
        September 21 at 6:42am

         

        Seven8 How sublime and supernal, that would have to be the way of the Father in this scenario.
        September 21 at 6:44am

         

        Seven8
        I beleieve there is a place for ancient cultures in the message of Ancient Times. I can see how that can all blend in the personal experience leading to ancient culture prophecy indicating truth from the past and looking to the future. Even in the thought of a mountain can have prophecy value like the sleeping warior of Mt Warning next to Byron Bay and how that can connect to Bunjil who comes one day from legend in the South who also have reflection of Dalamatia City and people who can fly reflecting Fandors and also teach and making life easier.
        September 21 at 6:53am

         

        Seven8 The aboriginals are definitely Dravidian Sangik origin from a long time ago and did know about Dalamatia City.
        September 21 at 6:54am

         

        Seven8 You blend all the myths of the Aboriginals and you have a solid connection/reflections back to Dalamatia City with a description of people that were influenced by the teachers of civilisation coming back to teach.
        September 21 at 6:56am

         

        Seven8 I feel completely happy that Aboriginal myth and legend can play a big role in the Message of the Father coming from ancient times and with evidence to suggest Egyptian influence from a dj a son of a Pharoah from way backhahaha.
        September 21 at 7:00am ·

         

        Seven8 Just that thought is ultimately cool.
        September 21 at 7:00am

         

        Seven8 So from Babel going to Dalamatia City we can go to the Land of Sinim or Ra and reflect related things. This is unlike anything that exists on the planet.
        September 21 at 7:02am

         

        Seven8 The you have the Westall 66 tie in with the dj it gets all intriguing and very mysterious not to mention the whole magnetar event reflecting the journey in the timeline.
        September 21 at 7:04am

         

        Seven8 The way I see things.sublime and supernal. Totaly Sevenfold.
        September 21 at 7:10am

         

        Seven8 The Sleeping Warrior of Mt Warning looking to Heaven is a prophecy.
        September 21 at 7:14am

         

        Seven8 The Construct of this presentation is MASSIVE and DYNAMIC all embracing.
        September 21 at 7:16am ·

         

        Seven8 This is way beyond Hollywood mind in imagination and its real. Hollywood is not expanded enough to even dream up something like this. This is a Father/Son project way beyond the mind of man, I can see it how everything links together over the timeline and what it brings out.
        September 21 at 7:18am

         

        Seven8 This will break all records and touch the soul of man with loving truth from the Father in Heaven and Kingdom of Heaven in the revealing.
        September 21 at 7:25am

         

        Seven8 I like to thank the people who recorded what was left of the aboriginal myths and legend without there work these thoughts would not be possible. Its just amazing that this area contains legends well over 40,000 years that reflect Dalamatia City and its purpose even in the Fern Tree Gully/Scoresby/Boronia/Narre warren area of all places. You would even think of it. Amazing that reflections of the past are even beholden in this neck of the woods in far end of the world in the South.
        September 21 at 8:08am

         

        Seven8 I praise the Lord for all wondrous and amazing things where the stage was set up thousands of years ago only to recognise and realise it today. A glorious day for a discovery and realisation of a wonder.
        September 21 at 8:10am

         

        Seven8 Only if people around here only knew and the hidden potential that lays in this area attached to prophecy of the Raising of the Dead, walking in the Streets.
        September 21 at 8:12am
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        Seven8 I praise the Lord for all wondrous and amazing things where the stage was set up thousands of years ago only to recognise and realise it today. A glorious day for a discovery and realisation of a wonder.

        September 21 at 8:10am

         

        Seven8 Only if people around here only knew and the hidden potential that lays in this area attached to prophecy of the Raising of the Dead, walking in the Streets.

        September 21 at 8:12am

         

    Seven8 This is NOT the way! Never entertain anything like this.

    This way is not the truth and certainly not the path for any person.

    Officials in California issued an emergency alert late Saturday for six adults and eight children who are members of a "cult-like" group believed to be planning a mass suicide..
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      • Seven8
        Where do people get false information like this to influence others in such away to through there life away.

        The whole idea is live your life in the fullest positive experience. I know life is tough but there is a safe path of truth which is first to live your life and if possible conjoint with the Father in Heaven so you both experience life togther in partnership, positive and loving partnership looking forward with fellow man.

        You dont throw your life away based on false information that delivers further heartache and bad fruits
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        September 20 at 12:42pm

         

        Seven8 Bad witness = no truth
        September 20 at 12:42pm
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      • SunSista Such a confused planet. We can blame the darkness on the rebellion of Lucifer and the default of Adam and Eve. The races never fully blended either, which is another reason for our human condition. The UB is an emergency revelation, and a book like this is not usually on a the schedule for a normal evolutionally world.
        September 20 at 3:44pm

         

        Seven8
        For sure Cydney, all I can say is thank you Father in Heaven for the Urantia Book, its definitely an emergency book for this planet. Its the only book that can help this planet in a major way setting the tracks right for the future. I totally agree with you 100% I am so glad I found the UB many years ago and seeked to understand the book.

        It took me on a fabulous journey
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        September 21 at 7:17pm

    Seven8 Has Caligastia already been taken off this planet since the advent of the Urantia Book?



    (611.2) 53:9.3 Michael, upon assuming the supreme sovereignty of Nebadon, petitioned the Ancients of Days for authority to intern all personalities concerned in the Lucifer rebellion pending the rulings of the superuniverse tribunals in the case of Gabriel vs. Lucifer, placed on the records of the Uversa supreme court almost two hundred thousand years ago, as you reckon time. Concerning the system capital group, the Ancients of Days granted the Michael petition with but a single exception: Satan was allowed to make periodic visits to the apostate princes on the fallen worlds until another Son of God should be accepted by such apostate worlds, or until such time as the courts of Uversa should begin the adjudication of the case of Gabriel vs. Lucifer.



    (611.3) 53:9.4 Satan could come to Urantia because you had no Son of standing in residence — neither Planetary Prince nor Material Son. Machiventa Melchizedek has since been proclaimed vicegerent Planetary Prince of Urantia, and >>>the opening of the case of Gabriel vs. Lucifer has signalized the inauguration of temporary planetary regimes on all the isolated worlds.<<<<

    It is true that Satan >did< periodically visit Caligastia and others of the fallen princes right up to the time of the presentation of these revelations, when there occurred the first hearing of Gabriel’s plea for the annihilation of the archrebels. Satan is now unqualifiedly detained on the Jerusem prison worlds.

     

    [swf file="http://www.urantia.org/ub-media/ub-mp3/U53.mp3"] The Urantia Book Paper 53The Lucifer Rebellion (601.1) 53:0.1 LUCIFER was a brilliant primary Lanonandek Son of Nebadon. He had experienced service in many systems, had been a high counselor of his group, and was distinguished for wisdom,
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    • Seven8
      In this is an important piece.

      >>>(611.1) 53:9.2 The archdeceiver has never been on Urantia since the days when he sought to turn back Michael from the purpose to complete the bestowal and to establish himself finally and securely as the unqualified ruler of Nebadon.<<<

      Upon Michael’s becoming the settled head of the universe of Nebadon, Lucifer was taken into custody by the agents of the Uversa Ancients of Days and has since been a prisoner on satellite number one of the Father’s group of the transition spheres of Jerusem. And here the rulers of other worlds and systems behold the end of the unfaithful Sovereign of Satania. Paul knew of the status of these rebellious leaders following Michael’s bestowal, for he wrote of Caligastia’s chiefs as “spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.”

      (611.2) 53:9.3 Michael, upon assuming the supreme sovereignty of Nebadon, petitioned the Ancients of Days for authority to intern all personalities concerned in the Lucifer rebellion pending the rulings of the superuniverse tribunals in the case of Gabriel vs. Lucifer, placed on the records of the Uversa supreme court almost two hundred thousand years ago, as you reckon time.

      Concerning the system capital group, the Ancients of Days granted the Michael petition with but a single exception: >>>Satan was allowed to make periodic visits to the apostate princes on the fallen worlds until another >Son of God should be accepted by such apostate worlds,< or >>>>>until such time as the courts of Uversa should begin the adjudication of the case of Gabriel vs. Lucifer.<<<<
      (The court case has begun at the advent of the Urantia Papers)

      (611.3) 53:9.4 Satan could come to Urantia because you had no Son of standing in residence — neither Planetary Prince nor Material Son. >>>Machiventa Melchizedek has since been proclaimed vicegerent Planetary Prince of Urantia, and the opening of the case of Gabriel vs. Lucifer has signalized the inauguration of temporary planetary regimes on all the isolated worlds.<<<<

      It is true that Satan did periodically visit Caligastia and others of the fallen princes right up to >>>>the time of the presentation of these revelations, when there occurred the first hearing of Gabriel’s plea for the annihilation of the archrebels.<<<< Satan is now unqualifiedly detained on the Jerusem prison worlds.

      (611.4) 53:9.5 Since Michael’s final bestowal no one in all Satania has desired to go to the prison worlds to minister to the interned rebels. And no more beings have been won to the deceiver’s cause. For nineteen hundred years the status has been unchanged.<<

      http://www.urantia.org/en/urantia-book-standardized/paper-53-lucifer-rebellion?term=all+rebels#search-jump-result-
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      September 19 at 8:32pm

       

      Rene Ertzinger
      It's more than punishing that Caligastia be left on Urantia -- that makes him pretty lonely :) as he can not enjoy the company of all the main playing rebels I would guess he has much time to think about his past doings and who knows maybe // big maybe things turn around for him
      Afterall // Michael - his heavenly father wishes to save all his children!
      One would need to be a parent to better understand this issue
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      September 19 at 8:58pm

       

      Seven8
      I know what you mean but I'm thinking has he been taken considering the court has begun and all would be interned surely?

      But then you read this.

      610.2) 53:8.6 The last act of Michael before leaving Urantia was to offer mercy to Caligastia and Daligastia, but they spurned his tender proffer. Caligastia, your apostate Planetary Prince, is still free on Urantia to prosecute his nefarious designs, but he has absolutely no power to enter the minds of men, neither can he draw near to their souls to tempt or corrupt them unless they really desire to be cursed with his wicked presence.

      (610.3) 53:8.7 Before the bestowal of Michael these rulers of darkness sought to maintain their authority on Urantia, and they persistently withstood the minor and subordinate celestial personalities. But since the day of Pentecost this traitorous Caligastia and his equally contemptible associate, Daligastia, are servile before the divine majesty of the Paradise Thought Adjusters and the protective Spirit of Truth, the spirit of Michael, which has been poured out upon all flesh.

      (610.4) 53:8.8 But even so, no fallen spirit ever did have the power to invade the minds or to harass the souls of the children of God. Neither Satan nor Caligastia could ever touch or approach the faith sons of God; faith is an effective armour against sin and iniquity. It is true: “He who is born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one touches him not.
      September 19 at 9:25pm

       

      Seven8 Much of the Evil that occurs on this planet is perhaps man himself still stuck in old habits that he cant grow out of. Maybe Caligastia is taken off and the evil we see is man himself and his manifestation of HIS mind and HIS will. Residual effect of rebellion.
      September 19 at 9:33pm

       

      Alan Slocum
      Interest thought, the urantia papers were presented before WWII. Before occult driven Nazi methods of modern systems design to dehumanize and ultimately hijack the awakening.
      I wonder what Caligastia is thinking about the NWO?

      (610.2) 53:8.6 The last act of Michael before leaving Urantia was to offer mercy to Caligastia and Daligastia, but they spurned his tender proffer. Caligastia, your apostate Planetary Prince, is still free on Urantia to prosecute his nefarious designs, but he has absolutely no power to enter the minds of men, neither can he draw near to their souls to tempt or corrupt them unless they really desire to be cursed with his wicked presence.
      September 19 at 9:54pm ·

       

      Seven8 Im thinking if court has began then all are interned. Its just logical.
      September 19 at 9:54pm ·

       

      Seven8 Im thinking if court has began starting from the UB then all are interned. Its just logical.

      Maybe conditions have changed extensively since the UB.
      September 19 at 9:56pm

       

      Seven8 If I take you to court, how can I do this if your still on the loose? Like in the Wild West you would have to be apprehended first to go to court.
      September 19 at 10:00pm

       

      Seven8 Anyway, Im not sure if Caligastia still remains here. He could be interned but then he could be still here conducting nefarious schemes.
      September 19 at 10:05pm

       

      Seven8 Technically, if court has began he should be in court in jail with the rest of them.
      September 19 at 10:07pm

       

      Alan Slocum Many in power seems to love the lie and hate the truth even worship what they call the light ~ No talk of love
      September 19 at 10:26pm

       

      Seven8
      True Alan, there is alot of division around.

      I found this piece that could apply to Caligastia.

      1493.6) 134:8.7 To the many proposals and counterproposals of the emissaries of Lucifer, Jesus only made reply: “May the will of my Paradise Father prevail, and you, my rebellious son, may the Ancients of Days judge you divinely. I am your Creator-father; I can hardly judge you justly, and my mercy you have already spurned. I commit you to the adjudication of the Judges of a greater universe.”

      (1494.1) 134:8.8 To all the Lucifer-suggested compromises and makeshifts, to all such specious proposals about the incarnation bestowal, Jesus only made reply, “The will of my Father in Paradise be done.” And when the trying ordeal was finished, the detached guardian seraphim returned to Jesus’ side and ministered to him
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      September 19 at 10:30pm

       

      Seven8 I suppose it would be a "trying ordeal" listening to stuff you know is utter crap.
      September 19 at 10:33pm ·

       

      Seven8 You would need a drink or ministering after that.
      September 19 at 10:34pm

       

      Alan Slocum We've got many chances to grow to understand what it must take and even why it is divine to give :)
      September 19 at 10:42pm

       

      Alan Slocum The Fathers' will be done.
      I see his will is that we know and love him even as he knows and loves us.
      Now, if we children merely pick up that which has been given us and kept safe within the realm of our personal free will~Love would rule.
      September 19 at 10:55pm

       

      Alan Slocum
      More on why Jesus knows we have what it takes.

      (640.1) 56:4.2 Personality inherently reaches out to unify all constituent realities. The infinite personality of the First Source and Center, the Universal Father, unifies all seven constituent Absolutes of Infinity; and the personality of mortal man, being an exclusive and direct bestowal of the Universal Father, likewise possesses the potential of unifying the constituent factors of the mortal creature. Such unifying creativity of all creature personality is a birthmark of its high and exclusive source and is further evidential of its unbroken contact with this same source through the personality circuit, by means of which the personality of the creature maintains direct and sustaining contact with the Father of all personality on Paradise.
      September 19 at 11:18pm

       

      Ajay Hooda I'm going through Urantia book, not able to understand why it's trying to rediscover Christianity. I feel this world is already burdened enough by christianity, hinduism, buddhism, islam, judaism, jainism and all other ancient religions. Sometimes I feel that the popes only through different means are trying to save their business by making it more interesting via making it look like occult :)
      September 19 at 11:25pm

       

      Fred Harris
      Ajay, I don't think that the UB is trying to rediscover Christianity, it is merely recognizing that things happen slowly on this planet and that the foundation for the transformation the earth is preparing for may come from thinkers in the Christian church. Believe me, the Christians I know do not accept the refutation of the atonement doctrine that is prominent in the UB, as they think that is the core of Christianity. The UB is designed to prepare thinking people of all faiths (or none) for the problems that are on the horizon - and not too far off! Hold high the mission.
      September 20 at 1:12am

       

      Fred Harris Dennis, whether Caligastia is still no interned is not the primary issue, IMO. He has little power in any event. The bigger issue is repatterning this planet to move us away from the Luciferian patterns that are now predominent on this planet and into a more Divine pattern. This will happen only when we hit the wall, which is coming fast. Those who recognize the UB's revelation are called upon to assist in the planet in moving toward Light and Life by transforming all current patterns. Be prepared.
      September 20 at 1:15am

       

      MaryJo Garascia
      He's still here:
      53.8.6 The last act of Michael before leaving Urantia was to offer mercy to Caligastia and Daligastia, but they spurned his tender proffer. Caligastia, your apostate Planetary Prince, is still free on Urantia to prosecute his nefarious designs, but he has absolutely no power to enter the minds of men, neither can he draw near to their souls to tempt or corrupt them unless they really desire to be cursed with his wicked presence.
      September 20 at 1:25am

       

      Lily Fraser
      I think that Caligastia has been adjudicated, BUT we are still feeling the "ripple effects" of MILLIONS of years of his nefarious activities. All we have to do is see the shape of our world with it's wars/greed/oppression, and even here in the states, we see the effects of fear, ignorance, GREED, and racism in the way our government no longer cares about young students (most children being born and going to school here are now brown and black, so why care about THEM since they are not the "elite"?) The "poverty draft" that so many of the poor and minorities join because there are no longer any other alternatives, so then they fight and DIE for the greed of the "good old boy" elite. These things do not mean that Calagastia is still here, they mean that too many people have still bought into the fear and stupidity.
      September 20 at 1:52am

       

      Alan Slocum
      This line speaks of that "thing" the beast I am witnessing. Lilly I am of a like mind yet I've had to reconsider at the least ~considering planetary history and personal experience. no fear more like wonderment ;) Luv Yas
      unless they really desire to be cursed with his wicked presence.
      September 20 at 2:39am

       

      Geoffrey Haefele
      Many pertinent questions left unanswered in the fifth epochal will come clear in the seventh epochal revelation. The ambiguity and misunderstandings associated with every major religion including but not limited to UB are that of miscontextualization and event timing.
      The space-time variant traverses the boundary of quantum physics and establishes for mankind the realization that the authors of UB know far more than our present continuum has yet reached
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      September 20 at 3:54am

       

      Geoffrey Haefele
      One of the most compelling revelations ever revealed by the ascended one, Ellipticus in a 2009 communication to our local group was that much of the Urantian text is miscontextualized because humans read it as it all these things present themselves upon a linear spacte-time scale. The truth of the universes revealed to us is that many of these events written in the past tense in UB have indeed already transpired, but have not yet been experienced on the earth because of the time warp that is present. We haven't caught up with the history of the presented events yet.
      September 20 at 3:57am

       

      Geoffrey Haefele Of seven guardians, Ellipticus presented the most detail in subjects relating to physics and the physical world. My forthcoming book will place everything and its timing in proper context so that many will be able to understand the truth presented in the various world religions and philosophies.
      September 20 at 4:00am

       

      Geoffrey Haefele Human error naturally persuades one's self to accept the notion that all religions are completely different and therefore opposed one to another. This notion leads humankind to the continuing separation between man and God. Look simply to the Creator and His Son.
      September 20 at 4:18am

       

      Alan Slocum ooooooooo000000oo;)
      http://youtu.be/m1zUx-EW_Jc
      September 20 at 4:24am

       

      Geoffrey Haefele Well alrighty then. Not sure what the video is for, but if it reminds us that Jesus is our loving creator, then it has served its purpose.
      September 20 at 7:20am

       

      Geoffrey Haefele ‎@ others. Would it be possible for people to become very educated in long established world religions and then be able to make the connection between the UB and the previously established prophecies that have come to be? The differences are not difficult to process when viewed from above.
      September 20 at 7:33am

       

      Geoffrey Haefele
      Dear Dennis, the answer to the proposed question is 'no'.
      Caligastia remains. In truth, every subversive force that resides within the local universe is feverishly at work as they continue to work toward their common and unified goal of "The conspiracy of deceit" among the people of the earth. The clear intent is to create disillusion and confusion in the minds of those who do not have a solid foundation from which to stand. We, the elect, stand in the gap for our weaker and unlearned brothers and sisters in order that they do not have to experience the Great trouble to descend upon the earth.
      September 20 at 8:10am

       

      Alan Slocum Caligastia is not as dangerous as pre-JC but he is far from the limits of the sleeping husks, family of man.
      He knows the dark plan and is feeling the sting of decay.
      Gotta run:)}
      September 20 at 8:37am

       

      Seven8 Yes, you think Caligastia is still here Geoff. Oh Well I just wanted to see what people thought.

      It would be nice if he wasn't here.
      September 20 at 9:00am

       

      Seven8 Just the fact we reject him wholeheartedly weakens him. I was hoping he wasn't here so I don't have write his name. That guy is responsible for billions of personality deaths I reckon. Who wants to even write about a spiritual murderer truly the grime reaper, Cali
      September 20 at 9:05am

       

      Seven8 What can be done on our side to get rid of Caligastia once and for all. He is the only draw back we have, thats if he still roams.
      September 20 at 9:09am

       

      Seven8 If he is that weakened it shouldnt take much. I believe in truth that would be the will of man, if man knew all the truth demonstrated. Maybe man has to physically grab by the spiritual scruff of the neck and literaly throw him off the planet through our will, if its the will of the Father.
      September 20 at 9:13am

       

      Geoffrey Haefele
      What a clear and honorable sense of decorum and humility you possess Dennis. Cali's future is clear and has been described in detail in numerous other historical texts including but not limited to the Bible.
      The greatest power Cali and the associated fallen ones possess is the power to easily manipulate and deceive the masses. All efforts are being directed for the grand entrance of Caligastia's son of perdition, the Beast.
      September 20 at 10:03am

       

      Geoffrey Haefele Again, acceptance of Jesus' gift and wilful confirmation of such is the path to freedom from the conspiratorial government plan created by Beast.
      September 20 at 10:05am

       

      Seven8 No worries, least we know what's happening.
      September 20 at 10:05am

       

      Linda Elum Enjoy the reading and I agree that if man accept the Fatherhood of God and do his will, we will grow stronger in God on Urantia. But it is necessary to understand who we serve and the power of God within the believer. That means as we make choices every day, the choices should be the will of God. Although man may not understand the "Thought Adjuster" believing and living the will of God will assure the God movement of the Brotherhood of man and the Fatherhood of God moving forward in man and the universe.
      September 20 at 11:31am

       

      Seven8
      Hi Linda, here here! I second that! I think there is nothing stopping us in truth to real forward movement. Having extra knowledge to fill the pieces with what we have gives mankind a real advantage.

      It makes all the difference having truth that leads us to a journey of exploration and discovery with verification like with 1stEden of Cyprus. There is no fear in these directions where we can walk with surety and assurance. Real personality insurance and where we can be ourself in expression.
      September 20 at 12:15pm

       

       

    Seven8 There has been many calls like this, see what happens eh!

    Giant Spaceships Heading Towards Earth Recent light has been shed on the reason that the SETI (Search For Extraterrestrial Intelligence) project has been cancelled by
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      • Seven8 Have you ever considered that the ruin looking things in the relief of Abydos maybe about ruins of the ancient places in a futuristic prophecy.

        http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/abydos01_07.jpg?w=400&h=264
        September 19 at 8:49am

         

        Seven8
        I note the Falcon in the tablet standing close to the ruins in the tablet. I note 3 sets of 3 pillars(Trinity). 9

        Falcon / Hawk byk - >>>The sacred bird of the falcon-headed solar god Horus, it was also regarded as his Ba. The falcon was a bird that had protective powers, and was frequently linked with royalty, where it was depicted as hovering over the head of the pharaoh, with outstretched wings.<<<<

        The falcon was also sacred to Montu, god of war, and Sokar, god of the Memphite necropolis. The bird of prey was sometimes associated with Hathor, >>>'The House of Horus'<<<>>>. The son of Horus, Qebehsenuef who guarded the canopic jar of the intestines, was a falcon-headed god. The human headed >>ba-bird<< was sometimes given the body of a falcon.<<<
        http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/animalgods.htm

        Abydos tablet
        http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/abydos01_07.jpg?w=400&h=264

        "ba-bird" the ba is a term fo the thought adjuster, the Ka = personality and Ba = thought adjuster, your divine partner within you. Fragment of God.

        In this day in the futuristic time the Egyptians saw, we speak of the temple of the tree of Life in the submerged cities and in association with the UB which helps us understand the Ba, the thought adjuster, the Sevenfold mystery within and part of the journey from ancient times
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        September 19 at 8:59am ·

         

        Seven8
        Its quite possible that the relief of Abydos is about the journey of the thought adjuster and the personality from the first cities of truth submerged underwater. It looks like a 3 dimensional view of a submerged ruined temple, a temple of Horus. This would symbolise the revealing of the beginning and the journey of the thought adjuster being symbolised by the Ba, the Falcon. The Falcon also symbolises the God of War, Sokar.

        In my view the Father in Heaven is not at War with man but with the Last Rebel of untruth which would include the last rebels children who do his bidding with purpose knowing it is wrong
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        September 19 at 9:11am

         

        Seven8 The Helicopters and things would signify the AGE of Revealing which would mean the end of the Age to begin a new.

        Anyway just some thoughts.
        September 19 at 9:12am ·

         

        Seven8 Maybe the falcon could signify another djedef or another Dj in a future time from the ruins of the Temple of Horus.  hahaha.
        September 19 at 9:24am ·

         

        Seven8 Then you have these so called parallels with Horus and Jesus but I would see it in the Way Robert Sarmast puts it in the blend rather than the Zeitgeist sophistry way.
        September 19 at 9:27am ·

         

        Seven8
        Consider the Dje-Seb name in the Egyptian glyphs in Australia and the seb relationship with Joseph as suggested.

        Here is a link that denies the association. But what if Joseph saw this event and sent some one down here to make a record for the future but ended in tragedy. Maybe!!! Who knows. Maybe he saw another Djdef so to speak of a distant time and wanted to be there in the thought of a monument he had in mind???

        http://www.kingdavid8.com/Copycat/JesusHorus.html

        2) His earthly father was named "Seb" ("Joseph").

        First of all, there is no parallel between the Egyptian name “Seb” and the Hebrew name “Joseph”, other than the fact that they’re common names. Also, Seb was Osiris’ father, not Horus’.

        3) He was of royal descent.

        This one’s true! But it's not really a comparison to Jesus. When followers speak of Jesus being of 'royal descent', they usually mean His being a descendent of King David, an earthly king. Horus was, according to the myth, descended from heavenly royalty (as Jesus was), being the son of the main god
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        September 19 at 9:35am

         

        Seven8 All those tombs of the pharaohs in Abydos of ancient times had that Dj compliment in there names and associated with the Ba Falcon. I find it uncanny to see a similar thing today in this journey in the same initials and things.
        September 19 at 9:40am

         

        Seven8 and even a record of a dj in Australia as dje-seb, in stone whether its from those times or not.
        September 19 at 9:41am ·

         

        Seven8
        Who would do that, write that name in stone in a hidden place, who would spend the time? What inspiration would lead a person to do such a thing?????

        Why did that happen with out any reason at all unless it could be used in the future??? perhaps part of a journey to compliment another journey, bridging the Gap!! a necessary gap for recognition?? in a future time??
        September 19 at 9:45am ·

         

        Seven8 Its fascinating you have a djeDEF in Egyptian Pharaoh linage and the same thing is reflected today in 14561 or 1DEF1 or in the secondary Midwayers numbers DEF-456
        September 19 at 10:19am

         

        Ajay Hooda Dear Dennis what you have to say about the UFO research done by a great scientist named Nikola Tesla?
        September 19 at 4:51pm ·

         

        SunSista My daugther's name is Tesla Nikole! We love his contributions to society.
        September 19 at 4:54pm ·

         

        Seven8 Those Telsa Cars arent to bad, one day I can see a society running of energy of earth at such a low cost its ridiculous.. Just switch it on and it goes.
        September 20 at 8:57am

         

        Seven8 Off course everyone will try to degrade and lock up the technology so the monopoly scam keeps going. Its all so typical.
        September 20 at 9:08am ·

         

        SunSista We just had a Tesla car showroom open up here in Boulder, Colorado. It's very cool. We have lots of stimulus money being dished on this sort of technology here in the US. The interests should be scared - that's why they hate Obama so much, he's taking down these interest left and right.
        September 20 at 9:17am

         

        Seven8
        I think its a good thing what happening on that front, its the way forward for the US in technology and bright future. Im not sure whether the old ways work. When man tries to monopolize everything trouble seems to brew and man pays out of the nose for it.

        I think money and energy should be common to all man and NOT locked up for profiteering. I just think its important for quick first home ownership for young families and really low cost energy with independent options to be free from the power grid.

        Im not sure about this 30 year mortgage thing paying out all this profit to an entity. I think its a delusion, made to be a delusion
        .
        September 20 at 9:27am

         

        Seven8 Im not even sure if compound interest works in the long run!!
        September 20 at 9:27am

         

        Seven8 Its like when employment goes up in this country, the interest rate goes up. What a negative operation that is. How is that right, I get a job and the cost of interest goes up. That is false and negative to mankind.
        September 20 at 9:33am ·

         

        Seven8 The problem with money from the source its based on profit motivation and thats creates a millstone around all our necks. That is the millstone, long term debt and debt you cant get rid off like CC debt. Stuck in a cycle drawing the life blood out of you.
        September 20 at 9:36am

         

        Seven8 Who can do anything really because the system is set or cast and it has immense power.
        September 20 at 9:38am

         

        SunSista You have touched my raw nerve. I am appalled at the banking system - how the private (not federal) Federal Reserve prints our money and then makes interest on it. Most of the interest is paid in the first 1/3 of the life of the loan. It's tyranny at it's worst! I have to stay positive today -
        September 20 at 9:44am

         

        Seven8 Im just not sure about that whole direction and the attitude reflected in how it works and the principles it rests on. I think its loathsome to man in many ways. I know a second coming or major revealing would elimnate this stranglehold over mankind because he is to far deep in the pit of unrealistic usury of man, over man by man.
        September 20 at 9:50am

         

        Seven8 I see debt as a weapon
        September 20 at 9:50am ·

         

        Seven8 Where is religion in all of this, a flat bottom rung on the ladder.
        September 20 at 10:00am

         

        Seven8 I think money should be owned by the people its to much for mans spirit for money to be private ownership(the fed).

        Money! look at the witness of money throughout the world and how its used.
        September 20 at 10:02am

         

        Seven8 Is man any happier that lets say 40 years agoNO I dont think so. Is there still starvation and things YES. Does man have an house for a family debt free and clean water NO.
        September 20 at 10:03am

         

        SunSista We have more of what they claim to be fighting against! It's an outrage to have more poverty, more debt, more disease, more war, more dysfunction in this day and age. Total separation of God and the people. It's a classic hypocrisy on so many levels. Dennis, your making my cortisol level rise!!
        September 20 at 10:14am

         

        Seven8 Oh well Cydney, it will be ok, the Urantia Book infers challenges along the way, this would be one challenge for man. Maybe, it rests on the new generation with a wider field of truth as demonstrated for them by us in our witness and thoughts along the way.
        September 20 at 12:26pm

         

        Seven8 But Im sure this generation would like to be part of something really significant and everlasting in the witness.
        September 20 at 12:29pm

         

        SunSista
        This new generation is so sexed up it's unbelievable! I don't have much hope for the majority. On the TV, the words in their rap songs, the media, the reality shows. Everything is about sex. Look at the booty shorts, low cut tops, and tons of makeup middle school aged girls are wearing! My son who is 21 says the girls his age and younger (high school) are very sexually aggressive and they compete to see how outrageous they can be in their groups with the guys and with each other.It's also about shock value. And now with the Internet and all the porn sites, its a real problem among our teens and young adults. We were never that into our "selves" (looks, promiscuity) when we were kids. This generation is really distracted in secular totalitarianism. I hope the veil comes off soon!
        September 20 at 12:44pm

         

        Seven8
        Its pretty full on Cydney, but I think it goes deeper than that, it allhas the characteristics of Baalim in spirit. Sex fertilty and Property ownership, the tenants of the Cannanite civilisation. Even though our civilisation is built under the tenants of the 10 commandments there is so much Baalim around with its attitude that its unbelievable.

        Everyone is a victim of Baalim and the Fallen Sons of God in there Genes today and which goes back to ultimately to Babel/Dilmun, hence the mystery of Babylon/Babel in the end times.

        The place where the Sphinx points to and where the Sun aligns in the Horizon is the location of the City of the Rising Sun.Dilmun/Babel/Atlantis submerged in the Persian Gulf.

        The City of the Fallen
        .
        September 20 at 12:55pm

         

        Seven8 Unfortunately, we have all been touched by the corruption of Caligastia from ages past in our genes but there is enough Adamic in us all for us to overcome our inner fear into the everlasting peace of the Elysian fields within our souls in friendship with the Father in Heaven.
        September 20 at 1:00pm

         

        Seven8
        I reckjon that is the big time mystery of the Monument at the Border contained in the Bible.

        The Sphinx points to Dilmun/Babel, the City of the Rising Sun. We go there and verify Dilmun/Babel City of the Rising Sun Dilmun/Babel by lifting up an artifact and that mystery in the Bible is solved and in turn it solves the Mystery of Babylon Mystery in Revelations of the Bible.

        No worries mate! We have already done it, solved that one but now we await the "we can do it people". hahaha
        !
        September 20 at 1:04pm

         

        Seven8 Thats a cool one for the planetary annals!
        September 20 at 1:05pm

         

        Seven8 We just follow the Sphinx and direction of the Sun where it cuts the horizon go under water and verify and we are there!
        September 20 at 1:07pm

         

        Seven8 Then from Dilmun/Babel we go South and find the Mother lode of all cities, Dalamatia City, the first city of all things.
        September 20 at 1:08pm

         

        Seven8 See how the Sphinx can take us on a journey from one city to another with a book in one hand and with a foot in the water, digging into the water in the places of old where things are still outstanding in the matters of the Kingdom of Heaven.
        September 20 at 1:10pm

         

        Seven8 If that construct could be verified, what a construct that would uplift religion!!! That is HUGE and MASSIVE! That would be the mysteries of all mysteries solved in everyone face.
        September 20 at 1:12pm

         

        Seven8 How could you stand against that in truth and especially connected to a new revelation in the witness!!!!!!
        September 20 at 1:13pm

         

        Seven8 Thats BOX OFFICE Stuff!
        September 20 at 1:14pm

         

        Seven8 Man would be able to assess what is right and what is wrong clearly!
        September 20 at 1:18pm

         

        Seven8 That would be ONE STRIKE blow to untruth as spoken about in an Hadith!! That would sort out the so called infidel who defy the law of the Father in action by there fruitsno respector of persons Remember, this can even backfire in religion depending on the motive behind actions?????
        September 20 at 1:19pm

         

        Seven8 Those who judge others by that Hadith can also be adjudged themselves by that Hadith in and by there own words!!!! Warning Warning! thats all I can say!
        September 20 at 1:20pm

         

        SunSista
        Wow! Dennis, I think you should write a book about this journey. Your intense vision and educated insight into this is truly amazing and you need to share it. From there, you can sell the book, find a movie producer and get the funds to really go and discover what you know is true!!

        If your dream is to find Dalmatia, you have to do it! Hollywood and whatever the equivalent is in Australia need new material like this. You can make it exciting with all your enthusiasm. Maybe revealing this is part of your destiny

        When someone finds their passion, life flows very easy for them. You are having your share of struggles and it is because you are not following your passion. Consider that this is God's will for you since you are having such strong feelings about it. Maybe you should reflect on what it looks like to take the next step in this discovery. The book/movie deal will help fund the actual discovery. You need to get this out to the key people who can make this happen
        .
        September 21 at 1:23am
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    uk.news.yahoo.com
    Any intelligent aliens living elsewhere in the universe should be considered God's children - no matter what they look like, the Pope's astronomer has said.
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      • SunSista Let's just call them "Star Friends" - sounds better than aliens. If they turn out to be hostile, which I doubt, we can go back to calling them aliens, K?
        September 19 at 9:35am

         

        Seven8 I suppose they have to go through processing before a name change hahaha.
        September 20 at 9:01am

         

        SunSista Yes, lots of red tape. The only answer is a rebellion.
        September 20 at 9:04am

         

        Seven8 That option is exhausted now, we are all rebelled out.
        September 20 at 9:06am

         

        SunSista I got some spunk left, come on! Are you telling me, it's just going to be me fighting for the alien aka Star Friend rights? ha-ha I'll let you know if I can rally anyone together. Maybe all the people who wear alien tee shirts and attend Star Trek conventions. I once made a mortgage loan to the guy who started the Star Trek fan club.maybe he's a good contact.
        September 20 at 9:13am

         

        Seven8 hahaha what a laugh, I reckon we are in a startrek scenario in a way, there is only one Borg left which is short circuited (weakened by our Friend Jesus). The Prime Directive is to be especially lifted for us in this time in the battle of the last Borg of corruption.
        September 20 at 9:18am

         

        Seven8
        The difference is , its by our faith and love for one another that is our weapon, the weapon of the truth. Its not a weapon but an instrument of truth that dispells darkness in truth. That would be the weapon that works against Caligastia.

        Our supreme instrument is the truth and its goodness, beauty embracing
        .
        September 20 at 9:20am

         

        SunSista Ya, I was always intending to have a peaceful rebellion - you know, the kind where you just turn your back on them. That's what they did to Lucifer. I will use the weapon of truth - truth that the aliens are not here to cause harm.
        September 20 at 9:38am

         

        Seven8 Did they turn the back on Lucifer, was that in Jerusem?
        September 20 at 9:39am

         

        Seven8 Isnt it good that we can speak about these things and not experience rushing winds and things flying in the air and other silly things. It seems all quite
        September 20 at 9:41am

         

        SunSista I can't find the part in the book where they turned their back on him. I'll keep looking and asking. Yes, it's good that we can talk about it without harm coming our way. I have heard that FB is not so private and that's how "they" get a more complete file on youso who really knows if it is safe out there.
        September 20 at 10:09am

         

        Geoffrey Haefele
        Sorry to be so present Dennis, but I personally am aghast. The principalitarian grasp upon the Vatican is well known. Lucifer basically does as he wishes with them. Now, for them to consider Jinn as God's children opens the door to Beast more quickly than ever before. As Jinn populate the earth and live among us, the conspiracy of kindness and sharing continues preparing all to meet the Beast, the brilliant black star. Friends, the time is now four us to rescind and grasp the all forgiving Love that is our bridge to life in the New Jerusalem.
        September 20 at 10:13am

         

        SunSista Geoffery, how is Lucifer able to be an influence from the prison worlds?
        September 20 at 10:17am

         

        Seven8 There would no circuit open to him, jail means isolation I would think.
        September 20 at 1:24pm

         

        Seven8 No space internet hahaha
        September 20 at 1:24pm

         

        SunSista That's funny about the Internet statement - we were thinking about the same thing!
        September 20 at 2:11pm

         

        Seven8 even Universal dial up (2 light years/century) would be useless.
        September 20 at 2:13pm

         

        SunSista You're funny! Well then, let's not rule out telepathy or astro-projection.
        September 20 at 2:22pm

         

        Seven8 Ahhh yes, i forgot about that!!
        September 20 at 2:28pm
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      • Geoffrey Haefele I can explain.First off, Satan's power extends much farther than many perceive. Mansion worlds and prison worlds cannot isolate this powerful highly aspected spirit. Far more capability than most understand.
        September 22 at 5:11pm

         

        Diane Denison I really enjoyed this conversation and all the remarks Humor in the truth Great posting, Dennis. Hi, Geoffrey and Cyndey

        September 24 at 8:57pm

         

    Seven8 Hey there is more prophecy in Australia

    Prophecy by Prophet Ruckins McKinley on 01/07/08
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    • Seven8 this sounds full on to.
      September 19 at 1:39am

       

      Seven8 I'm not sure if money is the object of the message maybe its connected to prosperity movement or something.
      September 19 at 1:40am

       

      Seven8 I liked the Band and the Song.
      September 19 at 1:41am

       

      SunSista
      Hi Dennis, Welcome back! Here's some food for thought about the petitions in this video from the UB:

      91.1.3 But the primitive mind was neither logical nor consistent. Early men did not perceive that material things were not the province of prayer. These simple-minded souls reasoned that food, shelter, rain, game, and other material goods enhanced the social welfare, and therefore they began to pray for these physical blessings. While this constituted a perversion of prayer, it encouraged the effort to realize these material objectives by social and ethical actions. Such a prostitution of prayer, while debasing the spiritual values of a people, nevertheless directly elevated their economic, social, and ethical mores.
      September 19 at 2:27am

       

      Seven8 Hi Cydney, it looks really packaged. Even the band is in time with prophecy words in the right key.

      I really agree with the above. I can see it.
      September 19 at 7:50am

       

      Seven8 Although in amoungst all that its interesting how they mention Australia maybe there doing a tour soon down under. I mean I can say all those things to and I do get inspired when I'm in a flow following a track. But there is no music just me and thoughts and ideas.
      September 19 at 7:53am

       

      Seven8 See what happens in there prophecy for over here. In my heart I wish it comes to pass as I think its good that Australia can play a major role in end time prophecy. I think its good that Australia can be off service to fellow mankind in the outwork of prophecy if its the will of the Father in Heaven. No worries at all.
      September 19 at 7:57am

       

      Seven8
      At the end of the Day its the Father that can make it happen. I can put it out there but its the Father that gives power to the word in manifestation. In my heart at this stage I give all this work over for the outwork by the Father in Heaven. I dont think there is nothing much more I can do in the writing.

      Lately Ive been feeling am I reaching the bottom of the barrel on this level. I mean this could go for many more years
      .
      September 19 at 8:05am

       

      Seven8
      In the way I see things, its really good and perfect, the journey but the physical things has to occur and that's where it stops. If its related to realisation I think maybe there is something I haven't found yet! so I look further. I don't know how long this can go for

      I mean everything that had to be said is said over the years of posting
      .
      September 19 at 8:27am

       

      SunSista It's good to have those kinds of group sessions - "it encouraged the effort to realize these material objectives by social and ethical actions." So, hopefully the idea is to make the people stronger and more determined to carry out the action and not make them lazy and think God is going to deliver them.  They have to do the work! It's a vertical thing! The Father reaches down as we reach up.
      September 19 at 9:14am

       

      Seven8 for sure, I thought it was interesting.
      September 19 at 9:15am

       

      SunSista
      Anytime something brings someone closer to God, I'm all for it. It's the mentality of people who sit on their tushies and pray that "God will save me!" They are missing out on the reality of God.

      The UB says praying for material things is "a perversion of prayer" and "a prostitution of prayer, while debasing the spiritual values of a people." Whoa!! Most people pray for material things!! As the UB says, "It is sad to report"
      September 19 at 9:48am

       

      Seven8 Yes, its a hard one, how easy it is to do when you're in trouble. God help me I need money!!! In my heart I just feel the schedule is worked out and walk in faith knowing that I have material needs.
      September 19 at 10:13am

       

      Seven8 Most of the time its praise the Lord, thank you Father and kinds of praises rejoicing for a fine glorious discovery. A fine day for Victory in truth.
      September 19 at 10:15am

       

      SunSista Dennis, can you say that you KNOW without uncertainty you will be provided for by walking in faith and trusting that you are going to be taken care of? It that how your life is going?
      September 19 at 10:18am

       

      Seven8 No, I have to work to get work (doing) but I suppose there is an element of faith to.
      September 19 at 10:20am

       

      SunSista I have trouble "feasting on uncertainty and fattening on dissapintment".
      September 19 at 10:21am

       

      Seven8 I agree so do I.
      September 19 at 10:22am

       

      SunSista My prayers are statements of gratitude and to please watch over my family. I always pray for the people when I see an accident and send white light over to them. I really haven't had a need to pray for the material, come to think of it. Things always seem to work out even thought I worry and sometime think the worst. I think I do that because I want to be prepared if the "worst " does come. I realize it's paying interest on a loan I don't have. working on it!!
      September 19 at 10:25am

       

      Seven8 When I pray it usually quit jovial and praising. No worries mate!!!! and all that hahaha.
      September 19 at 10:27am

       

      Seven8 I havent been compelled to pray for money specifically. I feel a great sense of being part of something Grand in that I really rejoice. Part of the Team of the Father in Heaven. Outside and within. The Ba Journey!
      September 19 at 10:30am

       

      SunSista That's awesome! I will remember that and I'll make sure to say it with an Australian accent ~~~ "No worries, mate!" Love it!!
      September 19 at 10:32am

       

      Seven8 hahaha what a laugh!!! aaah just having fun. Maybe Im a bit reckless. OOh well the heart is in the right place.
      September 19 at 10:37am

       

      Seven8 I speak to the Father like a friend and Father and he can accompany me on my journey so he can experience it first hand from my heart!
      September 19 at 10:38am

       

      Seven8 Its like She'll be right Father well just make it happen, no worries mate! Like a friend and full of love and closeness Just like that, all spontaneous at anytime.
      September 19 at 10:41am

       

      Seven8 For an angel its a quite in the room but the babbling they must witness when I speak to myself in the thoughts and tracks and then suddenly a praise or 10 must be funny to witness.
      September 19 at 10:43am

       

      Seven8 Its only in the written word that they could see what Im thinking about and then understand all the grunts and groans, the hahaha's and words here and there babbling, stammering tongue!
      September 19 at 10:45am

       

      SunSista
      Sounds like you have a very warm, wonderful, loving, and compassionate relationship with our Father. You took my breath away with this one ~ "I speak to the Father like a friend and Father and he can accompany me on my journey so he can experience it first hand from my heart!"

      I want to be more like you, Dennis!! He is always there with you - you never leave his side. OMG! Do you know how precious and rare that is? Thanks for the inner-life insight. It's priceless to share these things!
      !
      September 19 at 2:58pm

       

      SunSista Can I post that on my status? It's so beautiful what you said and I want to share it with all our brothers and sisters on FB. I'll put "From my friend Dennis or Seven8", you decide.
      September 19 at 3:01pm

       

      Seven8 no worries at all Cydney
      September 19 at 3:38pm

       

      SunSista Thanks :) .of course, I should have known you would say that!
      September 19 at 4:56pm
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    Seven8 Prophecy in Australia

    Charles Stock gives an amazing and inspiring prophecy for the country of Australia from a vision that the Lord gave him.
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      • Seven8 sounds full on.
        September 19 at 1:29am

         

        Seven8 I notice an Aboriginal factor common in both video in connection of what's supposed to happen in Sinim. I thought that was interesting, he mentioned a portal or a door.
        September 19 at 1:55am

         

      • Seven8
        To be honest to only door or portal I see that was opened in the expeditions to 1stEden of Cyprus. That is the door in the verification of the natural Stone Wall not to mention the Temple of Adoration and the Great Mound.

        That is the door related to a book and the Sea, a Dalamatia City verification would make the whole thing more interesting and Fun.
        September 19 at 1:58am

         

        Seven8

        With the Aboriginal Factor I always think that the Arattian Kingdom secondary Midwayers and the Dalamatian Primary Midwayers were around with the Aboriginals from thousands of years past. I am absolutely sure they would of guided things in there religion through Events for the record in a final expression of the Native people at the end, participant in the overall journey in an array of things from physical and spiritual.

        Where perhaps it embraces many relevant myths from different parts of the country in the final expression of the door. Myths that come from parts of the country that I drive through and recognize things only to reflect later which brings me to a journey of past culture with relevance to the journey in the experience.

        Like with my experience in the drive up to QLD that led me to the Mt warning journey at the end and information about the Suns first Rays and where it hits and what the top of the mountain symbolizes in symbol shape and the legend of the sleeping Warrior held by the locals
        .
        September 19 at 2:13am

         

    Seven8 Things happening in Australia

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      • SunSista Are all those things really happening, Dennis? Please give details about the "fish falling from the sky" - what's that about?
        September 19 at 2:48am

         

        Seven8 The flying fish could be the result of being sucked up by a Willy Willy or a water spout. Locusts are normal after great rain but it seems really extensive considering all the rain.
        September 19 at 8:25am
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      • Seven8 seems such a bummer to have good rain, bumper crops, rivers cleaned out and now locusts. Part of the cycle in this land of the Dragon, Lizards, rushes and now water.
        September 19 at 8:45am

         

        SunSista It's all very interesting, anyway!

        September 19 at 9:15am

         

    Seven8 I found this link interesting.

    fragment

    In the central NSW late last century a cult was recorded among the aboriginals who worshipped a sky being called Biame. >>The soul judging functions of Biame were parallel to those Thoth who in Egyptian mythology conducted the spirits to Osiris, The god of the Dead, for judgement.
    <<

    Beside the Hawkesbury River, very old aboriginal rock art depicts strange visitors to the continent, including people looking like Egyptians.

     

    The hieroglyphs tell the tale of early Egyptian explorers, injured and stranded, in ancient Australia. The discovery centres around a most unusual set of rock carvings found in the National Park forest of the Hunter Valley, 100 km north of Sydney.
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      • Seven8
        interesting

        The Tjuringa sacred stones of the Kimberley region include a sun symbol identical to that of the Aten. The solar deity worshipped in Egypt around 1000 BC.

        In Atonist art, the Sun was depicted as having little hands that reached out to touch mankind. There was an Egyptian God named >>Aton connected to Akhenaten.<<
        September 18 at 9:32pm

         

        Laura Patricia Peña Pedraza building bridges and links between science and religion?
        September 18 at 9:34pm

         

        Seven8
        What I found fascinating was the initials

        "A group of three cartouches (framed clusters of glyphs) record the name of >>"RA-JEDEF"<< as reigning King of the Upper and Lower Nile, and son of 'Khufu' who, in turn, is son of the King 'Sneferu'.

        This dates the expedition just after the reign of King Khufu - known in the Greek as "Cheops" alleged builder of the Great Pyramid.

        Lord >>Djes-eb<< may have actually been one of the sons of the Pharaoh >>Ra Djedef<<, who reigned after Khufu
        .
        September 18 at 9:39pm

         

        Seven8
        The City of Djed

        Abydos

        Abtu or Abdju

        The City of the Djed, Abydos. Perhaps a connection to Australia through Lord Djes-eb.

        city of the DJ

        http://www.sangraal.com/Abydos
        /
        September 18 at 9:48pm

         

        Seven8
        interesting

        >>>The Djed is a pillar, a type of the World Tree, representing stability, continuity, and regeneration.<<<<
        >>>> The Festival of The Raising of the Djed dates back more than 5,000 years to predynastic times--as does the Egyptian Book of the Dead which identifies the Djed as both the backbone of Osiris and the support and backbone of the universe.<<<<

        >>> The Djed, however, is more than just an object; it is a mythic complex that existed long before Osiris emerged from the dark realm of the collective unconscious.<<<<

        http://www.sangraal.com/Abydos
        /
        September 18 at 9:52pm

         

        Seven8
        Checkout this HUGE clue

        However, according to the texts of the Temple of Horus at Edfu, >>>the Djed served its greatest purpose and revealed its greatest mystery at the ending of one world age and the beginning of another. This is such a time!<<<<

        http://www.sangraal.com/Abydos/

        Wow the beginnings, the hidden revealed. I'm sure
        .
        September 18 at 9:55pm

         

        Seven8 but then again on the other side you have this

        http://www.jimloy.com/pseudo/austral.htm
        September 18 at 10:03pm

         

        Seven8 Hi Laura, yes trying to build as many bridges as possible, taking the opportunity to do so. Testing as many things as I can.
        September 19 at 8:17am
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      • Seven8 One thing for sure I feel satisfied I had a good crack at it over the years in the writing my thoughts on the run. I gave it Myall.
        September 19 at 8:19am

         

        Seven8 I felt the real key was giving it out as I thought following the threads. The more I gave out the more I recieved in the thought and idea. The more I gave out the more it unfolded in the way I see things.

        September 19 at 8:23am

         

    Seven8 Quote
    explained the program. "Muslims believe hopes for the realization of such a happy ending for the world are called 'Awaiting Redemption,' and means waiting for >>>man's problems to be solved by the Saviour at the end of time.<<<

    We have to solve many problem ourselves so we learn from the spiritual experience.

    Official Iranian radio has completed broadcasting a lengthy series on the imminent appearance of a messianic figure who will defeat Islam's enemies and impose Islamic Shiite rule over the entire world – even speculating on specific dates the so-called "Mahdi" will be revealed.
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      • Seven8 The world wont be ruled by Shia religion and Jesus is more than a prophet, he is a Paradise Son who comes to adjudge the Age.
        September 18 at 3:07pm

         

        Seven8 Anyway the article is sometime ago and there still waiting. Maybe there is something that has to be done first???? in there waters, a vital part of the Springs of Waters.
        September 18 at 3:09pm

         

        Seven8
        I noticed this in this article.

        Awaiting the Iranian messiah
        http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3327251,00.html

        "Today is Friday, a day you are expected to come; the faithful will be free of cares and troubles when you shall arrive, and >>with one strike shall put an end to the intrigues of the infidels."<<

        Consider that a peaceful discovery and verification of the first city of the Tree of Life would fulfil this Hadith which I believe is Manmade inspired.

        The One strike would in truth demonstrated by recognition and appreciation where it is demonstrated undeniable. That would be one strike in truth using all our knowledge in a positive way.

        It is not through arms, war, death and destruction, that's the stupid man way of thinking in the interpretation.

        I believe the stage is already set and set up for a positive one strike in truth that leads to a new revelation and it would demonstrate the Father in Heaven.

        However, some people wouldn't like that. It would be positive goal for religion, expanded religion with real depth that is normal being yourself like when you was a child
        .
        September 18 at 3:20pm

         

        Seven8
        Regardless what is said nothing much will happen over there. I believe there is a safe passage for Iran but I don't think it will be ever considered because of what they perceive they would loose rather than the gains they would achieve.

        The Mahdi they are expecting would have to prove himself in many fields of religion and he would have to be active now and you would have to witness his activity to test his demonstration.

        Where in Islam can you see this demonstration??? Where in Christianity can you witness this demonstration? apart from the Knock em down evangelists!!

        If the Father teaches the Last Servant himself, the servant's demonstration would have to be outside of Islam and Christianity but all encompassing/embracing with the aid of a new revelation that strikes the heart of the religion to the core in truth in the demonstration and revealing.
        September 18 at 3:45pm

         

        Seven8 All these articles were in 2007 and everyone is still awaiting, its 3 years later and is there anyone that fills the qualifications of the Mahdi today 3 years later??
        September 18 at 3:45pm

         

        Seven8
        I personally think there is no better presentation than what's on offer in the journey from ancient times, from the cities of the Tree of Life. I don't think man could come up with a better demonstration in truth linked to new revelation revealing all to test and research for oneself.

        Where could the Shia Mahdis presentation come from I ask? is there a presentation to prove and persuade in truth?? What could be greater than 1stEden and Dalamatia City, the cities of the Tree of Life?? What presentation on the planet in the world of Man has the potential to activate a possible response by the Kingdom of Heaven??
        ?
        September 18 at 4:05pm

         

        Seven8 Chris Halvorson and others are great teachers of the Word but there has to be TRUTH STRIKE FORCE operative at their spear head to bring out the the truth in the dynamic encompassing all things of the Kingdom of Heaven in the way you could say. Yes, I can see that! I can read it and see it on the evidence.
        September 18 at 4:05pm

         

        Seven8 Hey Diane A ONE TRUTH STRIKE TEAM in discovery and verification hahaha
        September 18 at 5:23pm

         

        Diane Denison President Ahmadinejad as the article said Dennis could be planning to start the major conflict with Israel to bring the Messiah.. He is not mentally stable. In honouring God you honour others. He is brutal and violent. I think he is a dangerous leader and is gong to cause and stir up a big war in the middle east
        September 18 at 5:31pm

         

        Seven8 I agree but it those behind him, the unseen faces.
        September 18 at 5:32pm

         

        Seven8 Its all little weird and strange.
        September 18 at 5:34pm

         

        Diane Denison Your right. The old saying is, "Birds of a feather flock together." The mad man does not stand alone.
        September 18 at 5:35pm

         

        Seven8 One thing I know the true Mahdi will not be waving a sword speaking silly things. That's for sure, he will go the way of Jesus in his way and message. It will be all linked to Jesus the Sovereign nothing else but all things are attached in the journey and is wide ranging.
        September 18 at 5:39pm

         

        Diane Denison It is weird but not shocking.. It has been fore told in Revelations. Once Israel gets attack and I mean a serious attack that is when many Countries get involved. Sides will be taken on both sides The Iran leader wants it to go down..
        September 18 at 5:40pm

         

        Seven8 Aaah all those guys don't know what's happening there all confused within themselves, there all compromised within themselves.
        September 18 at 5:43pm

         

        Diane Denison You have that right Dennis all Prophets from our Father are of Pure loving souls. They may just put an end to morons running Countries and ship them floating endless with no home in the Universe
        September 18 at 5:43pm

         

        Seven8 hahaha
        September 18 at 5:44pm

         

        Diane Denison It is called EGO'S. They have a 5 min rule on Earth then they will have jobs of cleaning out garbage dumpsters
        September 18 at 5:46pm

         

        Seven8 anyway, its up to the people, its there life but I believe the will of the people is more expanded.
        September 18 at 5:46pm

         

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      • Seven8 Its like they cant think for themselves and be free to do so with personal liberty knowing the truth within. I dont know.
        September 18 at 5:47pm

         

        Diane Denison Most people want peace. It hard to control mad men that are leaders. It is going to go down, Dennis. But at the end it will be over and good will happen
        September 18 at 5:48pm

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